The Shroud of Turin, awesome evidence...

The Shroud of Turin, awesome evidence for the resurrection of Christ

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God is not dead

Richmond, KY

#1 Apr 18, 2014
This is certainly, some of the best evidence I have come across for the Resurrection of Christ and for the existence of God and that being the Shroud of Turin. Once thought to be a medieval forgery from a carbon dating study done in 1988, more recent evidence has come out that shows that carbon dating that was done was inaccurate at best.

To make a long story short, the area that the test was done on was a patched area from a fire that occurred during the medieval period. Under the microscope, you can clearly see that there is cotton interwoven with the linen thread which would then easily throw off a carbon dating test.

And if you want to further look into the case for the Shroud's authenticity feel free to visit www.shroud.com and www.shrouduniversity.com

But if you want to see some videos that document the case for the Shroud's authenticity feel free to check these links out...



And it certainly appears to agree with scripture as you will see here...

https://www.youtube.com/watch...

And here are some more excellent videos on the Shroud God bless =^..^=...

https://www.youtube.com/watch...

https://www.youtube.com/user/shroudencounter
duh

Barbourville, KY

#2 Apr 18, 2014
There is no "God", you douche nozzle! Do you also believe in santa and the tooth fairy?
missing DT

Keavy, KY

#3 Apr 24, 2014
since west became mayor the shoud of turin was decared real
pity

Keavy, KY

#4 Apr 25, 2014
God is not dead wrote:
This is certainly, some of the best evidence I have come across for the Resurrection of Christ and for the existence of God and that being the Shroud of Turin. Once thought to be a medieval forgery from a carbon dating study done in 1988, more recent evidence has come out that shows that carbon dating that was done was inaccurate at best.
To make a long story short, the area that the test was done on was a patched area from a fire that occurred during the medieval period. Under the microscope, you can clearly see that there is cotton interwoven with the linen thread which would then easily throw off a carbon dating test.
And if you want to further look into the case for the Shroud's authenticity feel free to visit www.shroud.com and www.shrouduniversity.com
But if you want to see some videos that document the case for the Shroud's authenticity feel free to check these links out...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =UQn6JrPYcysXX
And it certainly appears to agree with scripture as you will see here...
https://www.youtube.com/watch...
And here are some more excellent videos on the Shroud God bless =^..^=...
https://www.youtube.com/watch...
https://www.youtube.com/user/shroudencounter
For every scrap of evidence the desperate use to validate the relic as authentic, there are a dozen that point to it's inauthenticity. Until humans release their primitive impulse to believe in myths, we are going to continue to make slow progress as a species.
guss

Puyallup, WA

#5 Apr 25, 2014
duh wrote:
There is no "God", you douche nozzle! Do you also believe in santa and the tooth fairy?
You're an idiot that follows peoples cues so you can feel like you fit in. Well just to let you know, you cannot and will not fit in with the others that deny God. They don't care about you and wouldn't piss on you if you were on fire. When you get older than 12 you might just come to realise that there is a God and you will answer for your ignorance.
guss

Puyallup, WA

#6 Apr 25, 2014
pity wrote:
<quoted text>
For every scrap of evidence the desperate use to validate the relic as authentic, there are a dozen that point to it's inauthenticity. Until humans release their primitive impulse to believe in myths, we are going to continue to make slow progress as a species.
When you get through copying and pasting other peoples words you might come to know that there is a God and you will answer for trying to get people to turn away from trying to know Him by denouncing His existence. Just so you know, people have made more progress as a species in the last two thousand years than they have since their beginning and continue to progress. When you get older than 12 you might have a thought of your own.
bob smith

San Diego, CA

#7 May 3, 2014
pity wrote:
<quoted text>
For every scrap of evidence the desperate use to validate the relic as authentic, there are a dozen that point to it's inauthenticity. Until humans release their primitive impulse to believe in myths, we are going to continue to make slow progress as a species.
Pity, our village atheist, just because you assert someth is a myth doesnt make it so. In fact if you bothered to study the peer reviewed literature on the shroud instead of the infantile my links are just as good as yours , you would know that most of the scientific research favors teh authenticty of thr shroud.
Notice I said the authenticty which is different then proving the resurrection from the shroud. For that you would need to go with the inference to the best explanation and a little common sense and individualistic critical thinking which atheists have a very hard time doing.
If most of the scientific and historical data point to authenticity of this being the burial shroud that wrapped around the historical Jesus then you as the atheist are left with dealing with an image created with such advanced technologies that even 21st century science cant replicate.
Details such as 3d spatial information encoded into the image(in forms of degration of light shades) that was only found out when a picture of the shroud was passed through NASA's vp8 image analyzer.
You will have to tell us how an ancient dude had an xray machine capable of producing xray images of the wrists, hands left femur, head, skull, teeth and gums.
You will then have to show us how to naturally get a dead, bloodied corpse off a burial cloth without disturbing the blood clots from smearing or tearing or the underlying fibers from tearing.
You would have to show us how to explain in naturalistic terms how there is no compression of the dorsal image on the shroud.
These are just many of the features you would need to exlain away by purely naturalistic means.
Obviously you cant give 100% proof of a resurrection because we dont have one to study it against, but once you start to really go deep into shroud research and use the inference to the best explanation, it is appareant that something unusual happened on this shroud, something beyond teh technologies of what people of those times possessed or even 21st century science, and it starts to point reasonably to the one historical event that makes any reasonable sense against it, the resurrection of Christ.
The shroud of turin isnt made for you pity, because you are convinced of your atheism and it would be futile for anyone to bother you with evidences no matter how good or bad they are.
This is called dogmatism, pure blind faith.
The shroud is tailor made for seekers or agnostics who are willing to dig in and do the dirty work of actually researching the shroud from the actual evidences for it.
Mark Antonacci was an agnostic lawyer from missouri who was happy with his life except for one thing, He was starting to get into alot of arguments with his Christian Girlfriend, over Religion of course lol.
Well one day he set out to prove to her once and for all that Christianity was a fairy tale and he started with the shroud. What he thought would take 2 weeks to do ended up lasting him 20+ years and not only could he get past the shroud and move on to other areas to debunk but he himself became convinced of the shroud and eventually gave his life to Christ and is a Christian now
Pity instead of calling something a myth try approach it from a totally neutral position and let the evidence lead you to whereever it goes.
Just sitting here and stating that its a fake doesnt make your opinion much of an educated or well researched one.
When I started researching the shroud 5+ years ago i started by going to the anti shroud sites and then on to the pro shroud sites and compared evidences . Are you that dogmatically married to your atheistic beliefs that you wont put in some hard research work of your own
seen it all

Pineville, KY

#8 May 3, 2014
guss wrote:
<quoted text>You're an idiot that follows peoples cues so you can feel like you fit in. Well just to let you know, you cannot and will not fit in with the others that deny God. They don't care about you and wouldn't piss on you if you were on fire. When you get older than 12 you might just come to realise that there is a God and you will answer for your ignorance.
I have been around for along time and have known several atheist in my years and it seems that they want to say there is no GOD until them or a family member has cancer or involved in a car wreck or something like that,then they start praying.Same way in the army,when the bullits start flying they start hitting their knees.lol.
faked

Keavy, KY

#9 May 3, 2014
if you are supposed to believe blindly in what king james edited for you, then why do you need a rag to "prove" anything?
Bob smith

San Diego, CA

#10 May 7, 2014
Faked so no answer at all for the evidences that we're posted. This is the vaunted intellect reason and rationality and love of science that atheists have lol, that is until the evidences go against them .
Now go back to your room and don't miss curfew.
Oger

London, KY

#11 May 7, 2014
Bob smith wrote:
Faked so no answer at all for the evidences that we're posted. This is the vaunted intellect reason and rationality and love of science that atheists have lol, that is until the evidences go against them .
Now go back to your room and don't miss curfew.
Why, by god, you tell em' what ever you mean...If you even know what you mean...
faked

Keavy, KY

#12 May 7, 2014
Bob smith wrote:
Faked so no answer at all for the evidences that we're posted. This is the vaunted intellect reason and rationality and love of science that atheists have lol, that is until the evidences go against them .
Now go back to your room and don't miss curfew.
your evidence is BS by someone who doesnt believe in his own faith, otherwise he wouldnt try so hard to prove what he knows is crap. Faith is believing without proof, you better go back to youtube for more "proof" to verify your lack of faith
Bob smith

San Diego, CA

#13 May 8, 2014
Actually faith you dull witted atheist Christian faith is about faith, reason and trust in God.

What your talking about is fideism which is pure blind faith.
The fact that you don't know what Christian faith is makes you ignorant to argue against it.

It seems that you done everything but address what the op and I have brought to the table as far as evidences for the shroud's authenticity.

Ths use shows that your afraid to address the shroud , and that it makes you very insecure in your atheistic faith.

We only use the shroud to show that atheists don't really care about science, faith or reason , they only use them like u try to do to validate your magical attenuation beliefs.

How about being a good little boy and addressing the op's videos and my post on the shroud instead of dodging and weaving when yoir atheistic faith is crumbling?
Bob smith

San Diego, CA

#14 May 8, 2014
Oger wrote:
<quoted text>
Why, by god, you tell em' what ever you mean...If you even know what you mean...
Huh???
Bob smith

San Diego, CA

#15 May 8, 2014
pity wrote:
<quoted text>
For every scrap of evidence the desperate use to validate the relic as authentic, there are a dozen that point to it's inauthenticity. Until humans release their primitive impulse to believe in myths, we are going to continue to make slow progress as a species.
If you really believes it you wouldn't have just asserted it, you would have brought the evidence out against it, but you didn't and you know that you can't . So when they can't answer an assertion or evidence the atheist will wave their hands up and down and start crying and say it's not true.

So far not one atheists has brought anything of substance or logic to the table.

This is why I have always thought of atheism as more of a mental,illness then a worldview.

One day I have high hoes that the medical community will be able to find a cure or at least therapy to help them lead a more normal life.

God bless
faked

Keavy, KY

#16 May 9, 2014
Phoney BS fabricated to help you simpleminded halfwits deal with the fact that you are going to die. How cute to believe that a poor quality rag could survive for 2000 years only to be destroyed by such "divine power" as fire or something truly demonic like "real" testing...go back to youtube for some more divine inspiration.
Substance or logic? Sorry no place for either in a religious fanatics closed little mind. By the way, no easter bunny or santa claues either.
faked

Keavy, KY

#17 May 9, 2014
Bob smith wrote:
Actually faith you dull witted atheist Christian faith is about faith, reason and trust in God.
What your talking about is fideism which is pure blind faith.
The fact that you don't know what Christian faith is makes you ignorant to argue against it.
It seems that you done everything but address what the op and I have brought to the table as far as evidences for the shroud's authenticity.
Ths use shows that your afraid to address the shroud , and that it makes you very insecure in your atheistic faith.
We only use the shroud to show that atheists don't really care about science, faith or reason , they only use them like u try to do to validate your magical attenuation beliefs.
How about being a good little boy and addressing the op's videos and my post on the shroud instead of dodging and weaving when yoir atheistic faith is crumbling?
faith
[feyth]

noun
1.
confidence or trust in a person or thing: faith in another's ability.

2.
belief that is not based on proof: He had faith that the hypothesis would be substantiated by fact.

Wrong about a lot of things are't you? Ignorant is a big word for a fool like you to toss around, the definition for it is in your mirror.

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