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Bible study rules for public schools proposed

There are 148423 comments on the The Courier-Journal story from Feb 10, 2010, titled Bible study rules for public schools proposed. In it, The Courier-Journal reports that:

FRANKFORT, Ky. - The state would create rules for teaching about the Bible in public high schools under a bill filed Monday by three Democratic senators.

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Curious

Winter Garden, FL

#136842 Sep 3, 2014
Khatru wrote:
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The god of the gaps argument you insist on using now has been used by religious people for thousands of years.
You do realise that there were many other arguments religious people used to cite, which, thanks to science, and unfortunately for you, are now redundant having been thoroyghly refuted and debunked.
I have no doubt whatsoever, tha tyou would still be using any one of those many arguments if science hadn't filled that gap.
All your argument does is show a gap in our knowledge - there is no justification for filling that gap with your invisible sky pixie. In fact, the Dreamtime Snake of the Australian Aborigines has the same amount of justification to fill that gap as your god does.
Jehovah - god of the gaps. lol
ooooooooooooooooooooooh, I love it when you post gibberish that can be easily refuted.
Now,tell me why you believe that it is impossible for a superiotr intelligence to create life,but readily accept that nonintelligence is capable of creating such. More over,your atheist cumquar scientists make the sams claim, while attemptimg to create,by their intelligence, what they claim intelligence is unable to accomplish... Certainly, their intelligence has failed...
So,they have failed where nonintelligence has succeeded, that is, assuming you accept their backazzwsards logic, which you and other atheists do.
That is the grinding stone necklace that your faith has placed on your necks ,which you are not able to defend ....A faith that leaves you defenseless is not worth defending.
Now, put away your empty water gun and run like H#ll, the guys with granade launchers have arrived on the scene. and undoubtedly will sink your boat whose floor, like your fraith ,is rotted and full of holes.
Get ready to meet the titanic..........
Yikessssssssssssssssssssssssss sssssssssssssssssssssssssss, your faith has caused your drowning,and there are no life preservers anywhere to be found, atheism does not allow for such
The atheists went trolling and wound up drowning..........LOL
Curious

Winter Garden, FL

#136843 Sep 3, 2014
spaceship wrote:
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Curious rebuttals are similar in style to Muslim cleric replies to Hannity on fox news.
Fiery Exchange Between Fox News Hannity and Imam Anjem Choudary - 8/27/2014
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =bb11PXcgFOkXX
I see they chased you out of the children's playgroud again for offering candy to little kids.
Yikessssssssssssssssssssssssss sssssssssssssssssssssssssssss, the word is out, your house has been banned for Halloween..........
spaceship

Rancho Cordova, CA

#136844 Sep 3, 2014
Curious wrote:
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ooooooooooooooooooooooh, I love it when you post gibberish that can be easily refuted.
Now,tell me why you believe that it is impossible for a superiotr intelligence to create life,but readily accept that nonintelligence is capable of creating such. More over,your atheist cumquar scientists make the sams claim, while attemptimg to create,by their intelligence, what they claim intelligence is unable to accomplish... Certainly, their intelligence has failed...
So,they have failed where nonintelligence has succeeded, that is, assuming you accept their backazzwsards logic, which you and other atheists do.
That is the grinding stone necklace that your faith has placed on your necks ,which you are not able to defend ....A faith that leaves you defenseless is not worth defending.
Now, put away your empty water gun and run like H#ll, the guys with granade launchers have arrived on the scene. and undoubtedly will sink your boat whose floor, like your fraith ,is rotted and full of holes.
Get ready to meet the titanic..........
Yikessssssssssssssssssssssssss sssssssssssssssssssssssssss, your faith has caused your drowning,and there are no life preservers anywhere to be found, atheism does not allow for such
The atheists went trolling and wound up drowning..........LOL
You're beliefs read more like extremist Islamic than secular christian. Are you going to join them?
spaceship

Rancho Cordova, CA

#136845 Sep 3, 2014
Curious wrote:
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I see they chased you out of the children's playgroud again for offering candy to little kids.
Yikessssssssssssssssssssssssss sssssssssssssssssssssssssssss, the word is out, your house has been banned for Halloween..........
Your beliefs read more like extremist Islamic than secular christian. Are you going to join them?
spaceship

Rancho Cordova, CA

#136846 Sep 3, 2014
Mike Duquette wrote:
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So you reject testing your powers? Most do, as they probably know deep down, they have no powers that are special or supernatural.
Mike Duquette wrote:
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You could earn a cool million dollars by proving your powers under controlled conditions.
http://www.skepdic.com/randi.html
When put to the test by atheist or non-believers that say you're either too ignorant to understand or that you do not have faith enough in the charlatan's claims. I tell them, go down to the VA and grow limbs back on soldiers that were blow off in combat. They will say "well Jesus never did that, and if he did then you wouldn't never have to have faith which the bible requires".

That said, the bible says if you had faith then nothing is impossible for them to do. Bible refutes their claims and faith healers have lost the debate.
Curious

Winter Garden, FL

#136847 Sep 3, 2014
Mike Duquette wrote:
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You keep grasping at straw men. I do not recall any atheists here insisting intelligence could not create life. As of yet we have seen no intelligence create life.
Energy can convert, so it does stand to reason energy converted to the elements of life. This defies no laws of physics or biology.
It seems more reasonable to think simple energy preceded intelligence. You are claiming intelligence is eternal. Sorry, but I feel that defies the logic of complexity. You are claiming the most complex thing always existed. I am claiming the least complex thing probably always existed. So our ideas are very different. Maybe if you could show why the most complex is needed first to create the simple?
And yes, I am aware English is not your native language, so when you fail to understand our words, maybe you should have an ounce of humility and respect, and try to learn the proper use of our words.
And I showed what is nonsensical about your conclusions, and you did not dispute them. I believe in things and I do not believe nothing created nothing. You could not refute that.
Well Dudkit,I implore you to continue espousing your atheist philosophy, as it tends to confirm my belief in the supernatural, which you claim not to believe in.
You are now stating that energy may have possibly always existed. We know that energy Can not be created by natural means and if it always existed,it must be supernatural.
That is exactly what I claim about my God,He is Supernatural...So you do believe in the supernatural when it is convenient for you to do so...
However, the effect can not be greater than the cause, energy can not impart to matter what energy itself does not posses, as energy can only be converted...
Sooooooooooooo, your beliefs are such that that which energy does not posses,life, intelligence and consciousness, energy can somehow convert these properties to nonliving, nonconscious and nonintelligent matter.
As yet you have not seen human intelligence create life, but, atheist scientists claim that there is no intelligence needed to create life, as a matter of fact they deny such intelligence exists.
Therefore, if energy is eternal, but can only be converted,from whence came it's ability to create life,intelligence and consciousness, properties it does not posses nor knows anything about.
The fact is that ,your faith has crippled your mind,left you defenseless and you are,invain,trying to prop it up with defective crutches,all to no avail.....
The millingstone necklace wrapped aroud your necks and designed by your faith has you atheists totally collared from where you can not escape....
That goes for you, Krakedtu, Chroe, The nut from California, where nuts are always in full bloom,
litterbox , who has not chimed in yet with his inane excuses, witchetty and her frail and dysfunctional broom and lest I forget Haven't forgotten, he be the one that can't remenber.
Magical miracles are for feeble minds and should only be taught in mental institutions, where they will be readily believed by those who file crazy lawsuits
garbage pick up day is tommorrow, so I know what I need to do with all your postings.
Good riddance to bad rubbish..........

Since: Apr 08

Cambridge, UK

#136848 Sep 3, 2014
spaceship wrote:
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Curious rebuttals are similar in style to Muslim cleric replies to Hannity on fox news.
Fiery Exchange Between Fox News Hannity and Imam Anjem Choudary - 8/27/2014
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =bb11PXcgFOkXX
At times, there is very little between curious and the IS idiots currently rampaging across the Middle East.

Since: Apr 08

Cambridge, UK

#136849 Sep 3, 2014
Curious wrote:
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I am sure that you are krackedtu and that if you had a legitimate reason for defending your humpty dumpty faith,you would do so. Obviously,no such reason exists,therefore your feebleminded attempts to avoid the topic with innane comments.. All your argument shows is the very discernible gap between your ears,however,you are not alone....Box ,Duck it and Chroe are afflicted by the same degenerative maladies.
Stand up for your faith and defend it......I know,,,Ain't gonna happen...
There is a valid justification for your nondefense of your faith....You can't defend it
You showed up at a gunfight with an empty water gun and a head to match.
Yikessssssssssssssssssssssssss ssssssssssssssssssssssssssssss ssssssssssssssssss
Your water pistol is empty and so is your head...
Rant

Since: Apr 08

Cambridge, UK

#136850 Sep 3, 2014
Curious wrote:
Now,tell me why you believe that it is impossible for a superiotr intelligence to create life
You know how I keep referring to your strawman arguments?

Well, you've done it again.

If you have to invent untruths to bolster your argument, you've lost.

Of course, you can always prove me wrong by quoting me saying what you attribute to me.

I am responsible for what I said and not what you, in desperation, have to lie about.
Curious

Winter Garden, FL

#136852 Sep 3, 2014
ChromiuMan wrote:
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Looks like you again have it backwards, as is your wont.
Christians are the ones who ask God (aka, the "Invisible Man in the Sky". Need we deliberate on the difference between that description and an "Undetectable Anthropomorphic Deity in Heaven"?) for favors through prayer.
Atheists are the ones who say that prayer doesn't work.
How wrong they are,atheists are also the ones who believe in magical miracles
Curious

Winter Garden, FL

#136853 Sep 3, 2014
Khatru wrote:
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You know how I keep referring to your strawman arguments?
Well, you've done it again.
If you have to invent untruths to bolster your argument, you've lost.
Of course, you can always prove me wrong by quoting me saying what you attribute to me.
I am responsible for what I said and not what you, in desperation, have to lie about.
You are responsible for your irresposible beliefs, which you are quite unable to defend and avoid discussing at any and all costs by inventing inane excuses....
And I prove you wrong by using your own words on which I base my conclusions....
You shoulda thought of that before you made your inane remarks.
If you can't take the heat for your remarks, go crawl under a shady bridge,,,,,,,,,
Or ,go visit the nations capital and sit under the Lincoln memorial... LOL
Curious

Winter Garden, FL

#136854 Sep 3, 2014
Khatru wrote:
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Rant
A one word response from a mental runt LOL
BTW quite a few of those ISIS degenerates come from the land that you , in your deceitful way, claim as your own........
Curious

Winter Garden, FL

#136856 Sep 3, 2014
ChromiuMan wrote:
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Your mind is a tornado of deceit. A guy filed a class action lawsuit against Subway because their "foot long" buns were shorter than 12 inches. That doesn't make him a worshiper of cheese steak sandwiches or the leader of a BMT cult.
You are right Knucklehead,however,your deceitful tactic is futile.
The person who filed the lawsuit against subway believed he was being cheated.
The atheist organization that filed a lawsuit due to 9/11 did so on the basis that the Cross caused them to be afflicted by many maladies due to their faith , as is evidenced by the fact that no other faith was so afflicted....
And we have already covered the ground as to what constitutes a cult.
Andit is atheists who organized a chuech in London,which they are hoping will spread world wide.
It is not a group of people ,as you would have us believe, that group of people are atheists,seeking to spread their religion.If you are going to claim atheism is not a religion, you'd better clear it through Q first...
He just posted some information which clearly points to the facr t that atheim is a religion.
It is called the noshit religion...I disagree,I believe it is all shit,,,, Lol
I see that you are still defenseless and looking for crutches to help pro your faith' Yikessssssssssssssssssssssssss sssssssssssssssssssssssss
truth teller

Pineville, KY

#136857 Sep 3, 2014
concerned wrote:
The danger in teaching the Bible is that this book has the power to create faith even in an atheist. If it is allowed to be taught there is a strong possibility someone could be converted to Jesus Christ. Under the current world views is it possible to allow such a powerful tool for good to be taught in public schools and that before the young minds of the future?
Why study the bible ? Every thing in it was stolen from Confuses. Bible study in public school is like eating puke in the outhouse. It will only make you sicker.
truth teller

Pineville, KY

#136858 Sep 3, 2014
The only reason some idiots want you to study the bible is so they can train you who to vote for. Its a republican voting block. Its wave the flag and tote the bible and then they send you off to die so people like Romney can gain wealth. I can't believe that people actually think they are gonna ride a train made of gold to a mansion made of gold up to the sky. Really ? You think that is gonna happen ? You really need to study reality and not a book with a bunch of ripped off quotes from Confuses. It no wonder that Bell County leads the state and the nation in every disgusting thing there is. How many preachers in bell county have I seen breaking their necks to pick-up a street walker. If you talk to the hooker she will tell he wanted sex. If you talk to his wife she will tell he was trying to save her soul ! I guess gullible woman marry preachers. Not saying that all preachers are sex fiends, Just the ones in bell county.
truth teller

Pineville, KY

#136859 Sep 3, 2014
Sue wrote:
Our school was founded on beliefs of the bible. Schools began in churches. How could it be wrong to teach morals? To me, it's unconstitutional to not teach what our founding fathers believed so much in.
You are wrong. this county was built on slavery
BRAIN STORM

Campbellsville, KY

#136860 Sep 3, 2014
Mike Duquette wrote:
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It could be coincidence, or it could be that you just remembered the dream this time due to the news of his death. You may have had similar dreams on other days but could not recall them due to having no relevant attachment to an event. That is how human memory works.
As I am sure you are aware, we do not remember most of our dreams.
And how is it you did not have a phone?
I don't agree with your assumption, but to each his own. As for the not having a phone, I was POOR! Barely had enough money for food much less nicety's like Phone, TV, etc. But now we are starting to drift too much into my personal life, so I will leave it at that.
BRAIN STORM

Campbellsville, KY

#136861 Sep 3, 2014
Mike Duquette wrote:
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Yes, I agree with this natural way of reading others. Some people are naturally good at reading body language. Sometimes it is simply a matter of trying to do it.
And clearly you are trying, and even have a body language book you may have gotten some pointers from.
Animals have evolved the innate skill of reading others so as to protect themselves from the dangerous ones.
Again, our instincts do seem amazing and almost magical. But as we learn how and why they came to be, the plausibility of it all being normal and natural is easier.
I only got the body language book this year. I still haven't read most of it.
BRAIN STORM

Campbellsville, KY

#136862 Sep 3, 2014
Mike Duquette wrote:
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Yes, I agree with this natural way of reading others. Some people are naturally good at reading body language. Sometimes it is simply a matter of trying to do it.
And clearly you are trying, and even have a body language book you may have gotten some pointers from.
Animals have evolved the innate skill of reading others so as to protect themselves from the dangerous ones.
Again, our instincts do seem amazing and almost magical. But as we learn how and why they came to be, the plausibility of it all being normal and natural is easier.
You might also want to look into the human AURA, this could also be what people pick up on when in close proximity to each other. Something that goes beyond body language. If a person is really sensitive to things, they can just be in close proximity to someone and pick up on their emotions. I think it is an extension of their Aura. It can be bad if you can't block out other peoples feelings. It can actually start to mess your own emotions. Hypothetically speaking. If someone was able to open themselves up to what others were feeling and experiencing and was not able to close it back off again, then it could mess the persons emotions. For example, if you were passing by someone looking at the ground, you may think, "Oh, that person is in thought, or mad, or sad" or whatever their body language was telling you. BUT, If you were sensitive, you might actually pick up things like overwhelming Grief, which is different than sadness. I used to be really sensitive like that. I can remember just walking by some kid, and I wanted to just start Sobbing. It was unbearable Grief. Every time I got near him. it was the same thing. I had to stay away from him. I asked a woman who knew him. what was up with him? That, when I got around him, I felt this way. All she said was that I was very sensitive. That I was correct in what I was getting from him. But that she could not tell me about his personal life. I never even spoke to this guy. If you are unable to close off that sensing mechanism then you can go through different types of emotional swings. I like to think of it as, a leak. It is something that you feel in your solar plexus. That is where that type of sensing seems to get picked up from. To me anyway. That is where "Hypothetically speaking" A person could pick up the emotions of others. But you have to be able to Close it back off after you are done. I wasn't able to close this off for a long time, and I always seemed to be picking up on this and and that, and always seemed to have a nervous flutter just below my solar plexus. I had to find a way to close that sensor, or block it, only using it if I choose to. It has gotten easier over the years to block off. I'm almost worried about consciously trying to sense things in others anymore. I don't want to spring a leak again and not be able to close it. I know it sounds hoky but it is what it is. I think what it picks up is another persons Aura. I have no clue. Its just a wild guess because I have no other answer for it. It is something that can be felt. I do know that it ties in with the energy usage though, because I would try to concentrate the energy that I was drawing into my body into that area when I did the energy exercises. I know, lots of different subjects and topic, I'm just typing as I am remembering. So if something is not JUST RIGHT that is the reason for it.
BRAIN STORM

Campbellsville, KY

#136863 Sep 3, 2014
Mike Duquette wrote:
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So you reject testing your powers? Most do, as they probably know deep down, they have no powers that are special or supernatural.
Mike Duquette wrote:
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You could earn a cool million dollars by proving your powers under controlled conditions.
http://www.skepdic.com/randi.html
Do you not remember me telling you that this stuff happened in the past? And do you not remember me saying that I closed that door, and that I don't know if I could even do it again? The other stuff, just is what it is. Sensing, feeling, sometimes seeing, intuition, pictures in the mind. I still do some of those kinds of things. They just happen every now and then. It's not something I try to develop. I'm interested in other things so, that has taken a back seat to other stuff. I try not to dwell in the past, I always try to learn new things, and to understand old ones better. But It was something that was Profound to me. And maybe to others, because it opens other possibilities. Once I feel I have reached a high peak at something I look for another mountain to climb. I never could move objects or bend spoons or any of that kind of stuff. Just the strange things that I have talked about here.

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