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Bible study rules for public schools proposed

There are 156596 comments on the The Courier-Journal story from Feb 10, 2010, titled Bible study rules for public schools proposed. In it, The Courier-Journal reports that:

FRANKFORT, Ky. - The state would create rules for teaching about the Bible in public high schools under a bill filed Monday by three Democratic senators.

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Since: Apr 08

Cambridge, UK

#133304 Jul 1, 2014
Mike Duquette wrote:
<quoted text>I would like to add that no writings exist of a Moses/exodus or god of Abraham before a few hundred years BCE.
This religion/god that is claimed to be the only god has zero records until 300 BCE or so.
What are we to conclude from this fact?
Jehovah is just another invention of humans.

“Speaker of Mountain Wisdom....”

Since: Jan 10

London, KY

#133305 Jul 1, 2014
Mike Duquette wrote:
<quoted text>Great point, we are very much like in kind to apes. Probably why we are considered primates as they are.
I never could understand why the visceral opposition to the link between modern man and great apes when the difference between other animals is far greater within other species and there is no issue... I mean there is the Tiger and the Hairless House cat... The Clydesdale and the miniature pony.... The Humming bird and the Condor.... The Chihuahua and the Mastiff... The modern Elephant and the Mastodon and on and on...

Since: Apr 08

Cambridge, UK

#133307 Jul 1, 2014
Madalyn Murray Ohair wrote:
127,315 comments about the bible being taught in schools? If anyone can prove that the god of the bible is even real over Odin or Zeus then yeah maybe, we should put in into history classes. Have you people even read the bible cover to cover? I have and it's what made me an atheist.
Curious can prove his god is for real.

It has something to do with a dog living and thousands of children dying every day.
SNYB

London, KY

#133310 Jul 1, 2014
ChromiuMan wrote:
<quoted text>
If you act around kids as you act around here, I'd advise you to remove your bullchit blight from their presence - you do nothing to promote a good environment.
Ah Chromolio, you can certainly dish the BS out, but it appears you can't handle some REAL integrity and actual sincerity.

Not my problem.

So how about we do us both a favor--you keep Your no good BS of nothing but fake and phoney blight-- well away....and I shall be happy to do the same...and even more so...I'll be glad to discontinue any further exchanges w/you from here on out.

Peace out dude, enjoy what's left!
honestly

United States

#133315 Jul 1, 2014
the problem is it's not about you. it's about the children.
wwwcurious

Winter Garden, FL

#133316 Jul 1, 2014
Khatru wrote:
<quoted text>
He's far too dishonest and cowardly to introspect his beliefs.
LOL Chroe , Duket you and Box have claimed that you could give a natural EXPLANATION TO THE EVENTS SURROUNDING MY dog..
So far all you have addressxed is the skeletal of the argument . I placed and in the paper and a lady responded to the ad. Those 2 faCTS Iin and of themselves can be explained by natural means ..
That is not what is in question and most assuredly what is being debated.
The meat of the problem, the circumstances surrounding those events , that is what you ,Chroe, Duket and BOX will not address because what the lady did is contrary to the way a person would respond under those circumstances.. None of you have a natural explanation,if you did, you would have addressed each of the circumstances that I mentioned for which
you all claimed could be naturally explained. Instead you,for one , has tried to inject the death of the 3 Israeli teenagers as paRT OF THE TOPIC. That has nothing to do with what is being discussed,that is a smokescreen.
Duket now wants the ladies name and a copy of the ad I placedf...
And I will repeat AGAIN, your faith has left you defenseless, hung you out to dry and needing to concoct ill conceived excuses and lies in it's defense.
YOUSE have lied , I never referred to those events as a miracle , I never said that those events proved God's existence , I never said I know that God did it.
Those are the lies that you all needed to concoct as part of the defense of your faith.
Now, why don't you all muster up the courage and back up your statements that all the circumstances related to that event can be explained by natural means and how this may have occured..........
Just to remind you and the other atheists; Deception, illconceived excuses,lies , half truths and diversionary tactics are not evidence that supports natural means

“I'll think about it.”

Since: Nov 07

central Florida

#133317 Jul 1, 2014
Quantummist wrote:
<quoted text>
I never could understand why the visceral opposition to the link between modern man and great apes when the difference between other animals is far greater within other species and there is no issue... I mean there is the Tiger and the Hairless House cat... The Clydesdale and the miniature pony.... The Humming bird and the Condor.... The Chihuahua and the Mastiff... The modern Elephant and the Mastodon and on and on...
Oh dear, you are going to have Monkeyboy...errr, I mean, Yaa frothing at the mouth when he reads that. He hates to be reminded of his origins and ancestors.

“Speaker of Mountain Wisdom....”

Since: Jan 10

London, KY

#133318 Jul 1, 2014
aWitchintheWoods wrote:
<quoted text>
Oh dear, you are going to have Monkeyboy...errr, I mean, Yaa frothing at the mouth when he reads that. He hates to be reminded of his origins and ancestors.
Which Species?

“Question, Explore, Discover”

Since: Dec 11

Location hidden

#133320 Jul 2, 2014
Mike Duquette wrote:
<quoted text>It is evident by the writing style used in the BOM that it had but one author, Joseph Smith.
The opening/intro material to the BoM reads exactly like an Edgar Rice Burroughs novel. So 19th century! I love it.

Then the actual meat of it reads like a Bible fanboy's fan works.

“Question, Explore, Discover”

Since: Dec 11

Location hidden

#133321 Jul 2, 2014
wwwcurious wrote:
<quoted text>
Situations do not always work out one way or the other , whatever that means. That prayers are" answered only" when results match desires and that is inevitably going to happen sometimes is based on your opinion on the misunderstandin of the facts surrounding those events.Moreover, your faith forces you to male that erroneous conclusion. The timing of those events,how they occured can not be ignored,which is what you do in your conclusion.
Ignore the facts and base your conclusion on your unbelief...... I do not find your conclusions , To use your own words, either realistic or reasonable......
Despite many controlled studies it has never been demonstrated that intercessory prayer has any effect whatsoever. Personal prayer has the same effect as meditation or a number of other methods for relaxing and gaining perspective. Essentially calming down and taking on a more positive attitude simply helps.

There does not appear to be any magic going on.

If I pray 100 times to find a $100 bill and then I find a $100 bill does that prove prayer works? I have found money before, without praying. How do you determine that the prayer for $100 was what lead to the finding of the money? This is an important question if you actually care about what is true. And faith is not a factor in the answer.

“Question, Explore, Discover”

Since: Dec 11

Location hidden

#133322 Jul 2, 2014
_Bad Company wrote:
<quoted text> Then you aren't comprehending what it is that I'm saying..debunked by atheist?
I am not trying to prove anything to you, only giving my opinion on things, which are just as correct as yours.
you must have reading comprehension skills, didn't you see where I mentioned the pyramid of Ahmose ( brother of moses ) with the exodus of the hyksos' peoples.
Why would a Pharaoh name his son, Ahmose ( brother of moses ) 200 yrs before the exodus as described in the bible?
You would think it was because He was the brother of moses, not by blood of course, wouldn't you?
Ahmose, google is your friend..
I don't think spiderman was painted on that temple wall, but the exodus of them peoples are, FACT!
If you present your opinion on a debate forum then you have to assume someone will probably take a contrary position. You don't get to name your opinion in a vacuum safe from reply. Also, opinions are not equally correct. One person in any given discussion is going to be less correct than the other.

Do you mean Ahmose I, the Egyptian pharaoh? I think you have been watching WAY too much History Channel. If you are referring to the idea that this pharaoh was named after Moses that is not a well supported idea. The name seems to mean "son of the moon". If you simply Google Ahmose you do not get very many references to Moses. If you put both names in a search you get the silly History Channel movie.

I am not an Egyptologist nor am I a Bible scholar. So I must defer to the consensus opinion of those experts. And they simply do not agree with you on this matter.

Since: Dec 11

Location hidden

#133323 Jul 2, 2014
wwwcurious wrote:
That is not what is in question and most assuredly what is being debated.
The meat of the problem, the circumstances surrounding those events , that is what you ,Chroe, Duket and BOX will not address because what the lady did is contrary to the way a person would respond under those circumstances..
It's completely natural to browse the lost and found section of the newspaper.
It's completely natural to call a person about a lost dog when you've seen that dog.

The only thing unnatural about your story is your claim that your ad's description of your dog didn't match your dog, which you've never explained.

You've never explained it because you can't: it's an obvious lie.

Since: Feb 14

Location hidden

#133324 Jul 2, 2014
Yiago wrote:
<quoted text>
If you present your opinion on a debate forum then you have to assume someone will probably take a contrary position. You don't get to name your opinion in a vacuum safe from reply. Also, opinions are not equally correct. One person in any given discussion is going to be less correct than the other.
Do you mean Ahmose I, the Egyptian pharaoh? I think you have been watching WAY too much History Channel. If you are referring to the idea that this pharaoh was named after Moses that is not a well supported idea. The name seems to mean "son of the moon". If you simply Google Ahmose you do not get very many references to Moses. If you put both names in a search you get the silly History Channel movie.
I am not an Egyptologist nor am I a Bible scholar. So I must defer to the consensus opinion of those experts. And they simply do not agree with you on this matter.
It still doesn't disqualify it either, it's not so much the name as it is the referencing of them peoples leaving Egypt. Sure, doesn't prove a thing, but doesn't disprove it either.
The volcano that erupted would have for sure covered up any evidence of them peoples leaving, but as other guy said on here, volcanic ash will preserve whatever they left behind, the only problem with that is, where to look for it..
doesn't surprise me that some don't agree, it's probably the same study minded people that agreed piltdown man was " missing link" and we know how that turned out, right!
wwwcurious

Winter Garden, FL

#133325 Jul 2, 2014
The_Box wrote:
<quoted text>
It's completely natural to browse the lost and found section of the newspaper.
It's completely natural to call a person about a lost dog when you've seen that dog.
The only thing unnatural about your story is your claim that your ad's description of your dog didn't match your dog, which you've never explained.
You've never explained it because you can't: it's an obvious lie.
More lame excuses from a feeble mind. That was explained way back when.
It is obvious that these events that you claim could all be expalined by natural means have put a strain on your brain....
It needs repeating , you are avoiding that which you are quite unable to explain, your faith has failed you and hung you out to dry, But don't feel bad, you got company known as useless,hopeless and clueless and we know who they are...
LOL
Every time you are asked to validate your faith,you flunk the test,even to the extent of denying it..........

Since: Dec 11

Location hidden

#133326 Jul 2, 2014
wwwcurious wrote:
<quoted text>
More lame excuses from a feeble mind.
The excuses are yours. You avoided explaining it again.
wwwcurious wrote:
That was explained way back when.
Oh, here we go. Rather than actually explain your lie, you simply claim it was already explained. Another cowardly evasion.
wwwcurious wrote:
It is obvious that these events that you claim could all be expalined by natural means have put a strain on your brain.
No strain necessary. Your lie is so obvious even a blind man could see it.
Kitchemonedo

London, KY

#133327 Jul 2, 2014
honestly wrote:
the problem is it's not about you. it's about the children.
Decent parents should never deaf ear their children.
Ever.
kitchemonedo

London, KY

#133330 Jul 2, 2014
Never.

“Breaking the spell ”

Since: Dec 10

of the puppet master

#133333 Jul 2, 2014
SNYB wrote:
<quoted text>
Such unrefined, broad base paintbrush lines of quacky liberal yapping points Duquette.
Should those who prefer same gender marriages for themselves, desire such...there are many places that now address and offer the civil service of such. Of course, such is not with out problems and issues as well...just as any type of thing.
Civil services as should be, because why would any rational persons expect such services from a religious organization that holds different beliefs? Especially if such would be in direct conflict with same beliefs, thus rendering the same as being nothing more than a sham?
Rational people wouldn't, only people that wish to terrorize others WITH their different lifestyle choices, would expect such.
Which would be the same as any one standing outside a civil, secular service, demanding that such not be performed, based upon their beliefs.
The difference between you and I Duquette...is that you attack others, individually and grouped together based upon stereotypes, personally and directly, as if they all were of the same mind.
I take issue with the ignorance of offending behaviors, individually, because I know BETTER.
So, if you're asking me to lump and label any and all those who might refer to themselves as "Christians", or as having some principles in their lives based upon the tenets of...for attacking purposes.... pardon me while I decline a seat on that sinking boat of idiotocracy.
And the same thing as far as "atheists and atheism" goes, I refuse to lump and label those who choose to see things differently, as being "all the same"...especially just for the most ignorant and deplorable reason of just having something to attack, and hate upon.
Count me OUT...of that "loathesome--ignorant, crude, rude and MOST juvenile" dance of the thoughtless and demented, please, as it such is not my "cup of tea" as in NO thank you!
If an individual is against gay marriage, I may well attack, and I feel justified to do so. Most all the Christians on this thread are opposing gay marriage.
They all support the mass murder of calf worshippers. No need to lump the innocent, when all here are guilty by their admittance to these.

When you say "Hollyweird" are you lumping? Seriously, if you are so anti lumping, maybe you should set an example hypocrite. Other wise you are just another typical holier than thou believer. How's that for lumping. Maybe if they did not act so stereotypical, we would not lump them as like minded. Fact is, they are told what to think, so they do often act the same. Ironically they are told not to be self righteous yet they do it anyway as if they were told otherwise. Probably because they were not lead by example.

Oh, and I put " quacky liberal yapping points", in the category of lumping also. So ironic you show hypocrisy of the very complaint you have in the same post.
You would not know a contradiction if your life depended upon it.

“Breaking the spell ”

Since: Dec 10

of the puppet master

#133334 Jul 2, 2014
SNYB wrote:
<quoted text>
Fact IS-I see right through CONs..And thier -tradictions, daily, Duquette.
And the rest of your nonsense, I already addressed, and gave you MY personal opinion only, of.
Ok, so you feel you have some gift of seeing through cons, so? Who is the con here? Did you have a point to your claim?

You can give your opinion all you wish. I am not so holier than thou, to tell you it is wrong to give an opinion.
SNYB

London, KY

#133335 Jul 2, 2014
Mike Duquette wrote:
<quoted text>If an individual is against gay marriage, I may well attack, and I feel justified to do so. Most all the Christians on this thread are opposing gay marriage.
They all support the mass murder of calf worshippers. No need to lump the innocent, when all here are guilty by their admittance to these.
When you say "Hollyweird" are you lumping? Seriously, if you are so anti lumping, maybe you should set an example hypocrite. Other wise you are just another typical holier than thou believer. How's that for lumping. Maybe if they did not act so stereotypical, we would not lump them as like minded. Fact is, they are told what to think, so they do often act the same. Ironically they are told not to be self righteous yet they do it anyway as if they were told otherwise. Probably because they were not lead by example.
Oh, and I put " quacky liberal yapping points", in the category of lumping also. So ironic you show hypocrisy of the very complaint you have in the same post.
You would not know a contradiction if your life depended upon it.
That's your problem Duquette...you seem to fail to realize that the world and everybody in it, will never be a collective lump of "one eyed see everything the same" species, and expecting anything else, other than the reality of the world is one of vastly different and varying perspectives, is unrealistic.
And unrealistic expectations make people miserable, disgruntled and dysfunctional.

Kind of like how your attacks on people collectively, read.

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