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Bible study rules for public schools proposed

There are 170076 comments on the The Courier-Journal story from Feb 10, 2010, titled Bible study rules for public schools proposed. In it, The Courier-Journal reports that:

FRANKFORT, Ky. - The state would create rules for teaching about the Bible in public high schools under a bill filed Monday by three Democratic senators.

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“Breaking the spell ”

Since: Dec 10

of the puppet master

#131520 May 27, 2014
SNYB wrote:
<quoted text>
And E.A. Po e married he cousin...and for that matter ...so did Darwin.
So much for THAT "only duh religious" extrrrrremely FLAWED theory.
Are you debating yourself again, as no one said the statement you put quote marks upon except yourself. Debating strawmen is all you can do.

“Breaking the spell ”

Since: Dec 10

of the puppet master

#131521 May 27, 2014
do whut wrote:
<quoted text>
You love to twist words. I do not condone murder and you know it. Demonizing me does not make you right
So you do not condone the murders of Moses and his henchmen? You can run all you wish from your contradictions, but I will stay around and remind you of them.

“Breaking the spell ”

Since: Dec 10

of the puppet master

#131522 May 27, 2014
do whut wrote:
<quoted text>
Victims suffer because of someone else. What's so hard to understand about that?
Satan has tons of ways that he influences people.
So victims of earthquakes suffer because of who? You see, as I have pointed out, there is various causes of suffering, that humans cannot control. Yet you continue to act as if they have control over all things. Or you just cannot understand this debate. Is it to complicated for you?

So you claim again that Satan influences and continue to refuse to tell us a single way of how he does it. If their are tons of ways, it should not be so hard for you to name one.
I will await your continued dodge.

“Breaking the spell ”

Since: Dec 10

of the puppet master

#131523 May 27, 2014
chinwendu1 wrote:
<quoted text>
You are very correct when you say Christians and Muslims have some of the same accounts. The Bible shares accounts and in the Quran there are some of the same (but different) accounts. If one was to start research, the first thing would be to find out who Christians worshiped and who Muslims worshiped. A main point is Jehovah and Allah are not the same. Christians we have our teachings and beliefs and Muslims have their teachings and beliefs; thus, we are not the same.
As well, Christians believe in a loving God who is also just. Do you believe it is loving and just to allow those who murder and commit all sorts of horrible crimes against humanity to go unpunished?
You mean like how Moses and his henchmen murdered the golden calf worshipers?
We keep pointing out how your bible does not seem much different than the Koran. You guys ignore the similarities.
curious

Winter Garden, FL

#131524 May 27, 2014
Mike Duquette wrote:
<quoted text>So you were proved wrong on your claim about the bible god blessing the marriage and you sit here and claim we do not understand?
Nahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh hhhh, I was not proved wrong , Nowhere in the Bible is it stated that God blessed their marriage .
You and " PreK" came to that conclusion based on your lack of understanding of what is written in the Bible.
God does bless Saea and states that she will be the mother of many nations,,,And he states the following about Abraham
3 Abram fell facedown, and God said to him, 4 "As for me, this is my covenant with you: You will be the father of many nations. 5 No longer will you be called Abram; your name will be Abraham, for I have made you a father of many nations.)

6( I will make you very fruitful; I will make nations of you, and kings will come from you. 7 I will establish my covenant as an everlasting covenant between me and you and your descendants after you for the generations to come, to be your God and the God of your descendants after you.
Where does God say that He has blessed their marriage?
I can't find it , can you?

“Breaking the spell ”

Since: Dec 10

of the puppet master

#131525 May 27, 2014
SNYB wrote:
<quoted text>
How did you know the BB didn't initially occur over a time period of a week or so, standard gregorian modern day calendar time?
Because theoretically, you DON'T.
Nor do you know if there was a fertile crescent region aka the Garden of Eden, or if there were two people aka Adam and Eve, and to deny flooding in the region is even MORE idiotic, because Science already verifies, albeit perhaps of slightly different circumstances than verbaDUHM reading, there WAS.
Simply bashing others because you don't perceive things in the same exact manner as what others might, is fostering intolerance of others differences, hatred, bigotry and ignorance.
Unless...is your name actually..perhaps...maybe...oh say..... SATAN???
(cuz if it is...take FOUR steps back. and don't evennn bother trying to move one cloven hoof forward!)
Well the bible claims far more than the BB happening in one week. It claims that the sun, earth, birds and men were created in one week. We know this is false.

The bible does not claim a simple flood, it claims a specific flood that did not happen. We know it did not happen.

We know the claim of Adam and Eve as the bible claims it, were not as claimed. Now you can try to change what the bible claims, but we are not arguing a different version of the claim. We are arguing the bible claims. They are false.

“Breaking the spell ”

Since: Dec 10

of the puppet master

#131526 May 27, 2014
what wrote:
to you that don"t believe in god ?if there was nothing in the being where did it come from you have to stat somewhere or said in the being you cant have it both ways you have lot of faith to said we came from nothing
Was that first sentence a question?
Seeing as how you cannot write, I doubt you would understand our answers.
curious

Winter Garden, FL

#131527 May 27, 2014
Mike Duquette wrote:
<quoted text>One can condemn child abuse and yet condone homosexuality, just as one can condone heterosexuality and still condemn child abuse.
I see you are back to inventing debates that no one is having. I suppose you cannot find enough thing wrong with our positions, so you have to manufacture one out of lies.
Well you can continue to sound like a lunatic or you can have a real debate. I see you chose the former.
What I see is YOUR FUTILE attempt to defend your ability to speak out of both sides of your mouth...
First of all what I posted was referring to homosexual priests , whose lifestyle " preK" condones...It is those selfsame homosexual priests and their lifestyle who committed the child abuse which has caused such a disaster within the catholic church
And that position ,of Homosexual priests being the selfsame that committed the abuse of children is confirmed by none other thyan The Vatican and the USCOFAA...
The problem that you are attempting to solve is the contradictory position that YOU have taken...
Your futile and lame excuse DOES not resol;ve your problem
There is only one solutuion , either you condone their lifestyle , which includes abusing children or you condem it on the grouds of child abuse....
Any excuse that you create in order to defend contradictory positions clearly point to deceit and hypocricy...
And that is what you and " PreK " do not want to debate.
There are no manufactured lies , that is your excuse in order to extricate yourself from the predicament that your faith and beliefs have gotten you into, known as the fruits of atheism.
Now, are you saying that the priests that committed these immoral acts were not homosexuals? Are you condoning their behaviour? Is that not part of their lifestyle?
Fact is,as you know,but will not admit, that you are being forced ,by your faith , to defend an untenable position and therefore your only defense is to label the facts as lies.
You are in denial, much as Staks Rosch claimed, when he stated that Atheism has a suicide problem but that atheists would not admit such a problem existed...
what

Corbin, KY

#131528 May 27, 2014
will no one answer me were did it start how can you get 0+0=1 it start some were 0+0=0 0+0=0 or it came from some one
curious

Winter Garden, FL

#131529 May 27, 2014
Khatru wrote:
<quoted text>
Hardly odd.
The chosen vocation of these people is irrelevant while their sexuality is what it is.
You must have spent a slepless night concocting up that evasive answer...
Fact is , you are unable to defend your position of condoning the lifestyle of Homosexual priests while condeming child abuse , as those homosevual priests ,in pursuit of their lifestyles , are the selfsame who abused those many children.....

“Speaker of Mountain Wisdom....”

Since: Jan 10

http://www.pixoto.com/quantumm

#131530 May 27, 2014
Mike Duquette wrote:
<quoted text>Was that first sentence a question?
Seeing as how you cannot write, I doubt you would understand our answers.
Yup... Not a chance in hell......

“Speaker of Mountain Wisdom....”

Since: Jan 10

http://www.pixoto.com/quantumm

#131531 May 27, 2014
what wrote:
will no one answer me were did it start how can you get 0+0=1 it start some were 0+0=0 0+0=0 or it came from some one
No One that understands the Theories have ever said it started from "Nothing"... It just started from No Things....

I could explain it to you but I cannot understand it for you....

Since: Apr 08

Cambridge, UK

#131532 May 27, 2014
chinwendu1 wrote:
<quoted text>
No, I do not agree.
Jesus did not execute any witches during his ministry on earth. If a person was possessed, Jesus delivered the person.
There is a such thing as black magic, some even say white magic.
When I was in high school, I had a teacher that taught us how to do a spell in class. She told us she did white magic and proceeded to show us how to cast a spell on someone. I rejected it on the spot but there were some who did not, unfortunately some who could not.
This is the type of thing many parents fear, something that will hook their child(ren) and take them down a tragic path...now it's everywhere. Our youth, some are not making it out of high school (college) alive and they are innocent...it is such a pity.
Just wondering why you don't agree that the unfortunates who were executed in Salem weren't real witches.

Altogether, 19 people were executed. The governor of Massachusetts (William Phips) was involved. A court was established with prosecutors, defenders and judges - all respected pillars of the local communities.

Thorough investigations were carried out and witness were cross-examined. A lot of evidence was gathered and many people confessed. All these proceedings were documented with hundreds of sworn affidavits, interviews and other court documents.

In other words a scale of evidence and testimonies far in excess of anything there is for Jesus.

The Salem Witch Trials were fairly recent and we have the original documents, not copies of copies made centuries later. We have the sworn and signed eye-witness testimonies from the very people who observed the magical events taking place.

There are even volumes written by witnesses to the trial. The evidence is plentiful so why do you not accept it?

If we look at what happened in Salem the same way that we look at what happened in Jerusalem, how can those people not have been witches?

Since: Apr 08

Cambridge, UK

#131533 May 27, 2014
chinwendu1 wrote:
<quoted text>
You are very correct when you say Christians and Muslims have some of the same accounts. The Bible shares accounts and in the Quran there are some of the same (but different) accounts. If one was to start research, the first thing would be to find out who Christians worshiped and who Muslims worshiped. A main point is Jehovah and Allah are not the same. Christians we have our teachings and beliefs and Muslims have their teachings and beliefs; thus, we are not the same.
As well, Christians believe in a loving God who is also just. Do you believe it is loving and just to allow those who murder and commit all sorts of horrible crimes against humanity to go unpunished?
Those found guilty in an international court of crimes against humanity should be punished.

Since: Apr 08

Cambridge, UK

#131534 May 27, 2014
curious wrote:
<quoted text>
You have asked the same question in a variety of different ways 5 times and it has been addressed. Obviously you have a problem remembering, which could be caused by early stages of Alzheimers
The main cause of behavioral symptoms in Alzheimer's and other progressive dementias is the deterioration of brain cells which causes a decline in the individual's ability to make sense of the world.
In the case of repetition, the person may not remember that she or he has just asked a question or completed a task.
Environmental influences also can cause symptoms or make them worse. People with dementia who ask questions repeatedly may be trying to express a specific concern, ask for help, or cope with frustration, anxiety or insecurity.
Read more: http://www.alz.org/care/alzheimers-dementia-r...
Or ,it could well be that you are autistic ,some of the symptoms that afflict you are mentioned below
stereotyped, repetitive, or unusual use of language
(restricted patterns of interest that are abnormal in intensity or focus)
preoccupation with certain objects or (subjects)
Talk to "Duket" See if he can get you an appointment with his Muslim aunt, she is a psychiatrist and her specialty is counselling atheists
Perhaps if you hadn't ran away from it five different times, I wouldn't have to ask it five different ways.

By the way, you're still too much of a coward to answer it although I understand it's not you but your faith that makes you that way.

Don't worry though. It looks like religious fundamentalism is being categorised as a mental illness and help may be available for you....

http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2013/05/30/re...

Since: Apr 08

Cambridge, UK

#131535 May 27, 2014
chinwendu1 wrote:
<quoted text>
So, when one is given good advice and one decides to take the good advice, you consider it not thinking for oneself?
That can't be correct.
The trouble is that millions of believers think that anything that comes from their god counts as good advice.

That also includes instructions to kill people.
what

Corbin, KY

#131536 May 27, 2014
to the all knowing that can get 0+0=1 i know you no so much that your brains it is on fire and thinks that you are the only one can understand anything are you mad like the devil was that he was not GOD

Since: Apr 08

Cambridge, UK

#131537 May 27, 2014
chinwendu1 wrote:
<quoted text>
James 1:13-15
13 When tempted, no one should say, "God is tempting me." For God cannot be tempted by evil, nor does he tempt anyone
"And it came to pass after these things, that God did tempt Abraham, and said unto him, Abraham: and he said, Behold, here I am."

Genesis 22:1

Since: Apr 08

Cambridge, UK

#131538 May 27, 2014
Mike Duquette wrote:
<quoted text>I am happy if he can just argue the actual facts instead of making up an argument no one is having.
That's his problem.

His points are so weak that inventing strawman arguments is all he can do.

Since: Apr 08

Cambridge, UK

#131539 May 27, 2014
Mike Duquette wrote:
<quoted text>So you were proved wrong on your claim about the bible god blessing the marriage and you sit here and claim we do not understand?
Curious has a big problem with this one:

By his own admission, people who have incestuous relationships are defiled.

Abe and Sarah carried on an incestuous relationship and were blessed by the Bible god as well as being encouraged by God to go on having sex.

Strangely enough, you won't hear curious condemn this incest. Why? Because it fits his small window of morally acceptable incest.

The guy's a hypocrite.

Ah well, I'll wait and see what his next strawman is - it's only a matter of time...

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