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Bible study rules for public schools proposed

There are 165514 comments on the The Courier-Journal story from Feb 10, 2010, titled Bible study rules for public schools proposed. In it, The Courier-Journal reports that:

FRANKFORT, Ky. - The state would create rules for teaching about the Bible in public high schools under a bill filed Monday by three Democratic senators.

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#130971 May 19, 2014
chinwendu1 wrote:
I do not believe the crime rate is going down. People are only being lulled into thinking that it is.
You're arguing against basic facts. The crime rate is going down. Every law enforcement or justice organization recognizes this.
chinwendu1 wrote:
The first four of the 10 Commandments are still good for everyone.
Only if they're already following that religion.
chinwendu1 wrote:
The Bible is inspired by God through man. I believe I answered this elsewhere, but we have to agree to disagree regarding the classification of Christianity. Christianity is not a religion.
Yes, I am aware many eyewitnesses are mistaken, perceive wrongly and do lie. But, if there are 20 witnesses and 17 of those witnesses say essentially the same thing, one can ascertain what took place.
...you don't have any good eyewitnesses. The vast majority of the Bible's authors are anonymous and unknown.
chinwendu1 wrote:
Regarding the authors...yet, the Bible has a single theme that changes lives in a most positive and amazing way, etc. How? Because, the ultimate author is God.
A single theme? The theme changes completely from the OT to the NT.

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#130973 May 19, 2014
do whut wrote:
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I thought it was his wife that wanted him dead because he was teaching that a new king had been born and would be setting up His kingdom soon. This is why he was a big problem, because he taught that Jesus was coming.
I was working off of Josephus' account.

"Herod, who feared lest the great influence John had over the people might put it into his power and inclination to raise a rebellion,(for they seemed ready to do any thing he should advise,) thought it best, by putting him to death, to prevent any mischief he might cause"

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#130974 May 19, 2014
do whut wrote:
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So just because you think the Catholic Church had it wrong, does that mean God doesn't exist?
My issues with the religion weren't limited to anything specific to Catholicism.

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#130975 May 19, 2014
do whut wrote:
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No I'm not saying that was the only thing that existed. I have no clue what all existed. I only know that our spirits existed with Him before the earth was formed. There are endless possibilities outside that.
My question was more about your belief that God is a being of flesh and bone like humans, rather than a generalized energy or indescribable presence.

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#130976 May 19, 2014
chinwendu1 wrote:
People had different motives for coming to the new world but most were for the reason to escape religious persecution in England. True, many felt the Church in England had it wrong.
God was not pushed onto anyone...though, God's presence and acknowledgement to him was given in letters, speeches, in our declaration, on our currency, etc.
Chinwendu, when the Pilgrims, and other similar groups, came to America, they implemented their own oppressive religious governments. States had official denominations and they would tax and punish people who did not follow the "right" denomination. Religious freedom was NOT a principle that most of them supported.

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#130977 May 19, 2014
do whut wrote:
He knew he was going to die so he ran from it.
He didn't know he was going to die. His letter to the governor indicates that he expected to be kept safe.
do whut wrote:
Then he started getting word that people didn't know what to do in different matters and asked him to come back.
No, the people weren't confused; they were angry because they viewed his leaving as cowardly abandonment. If he had not come back, they may have ditched him and then his power trip would have been over.
do whut wrote:
And you know why the press was destroyed after the things the Nauvoo Wasp and Expositor published.
Smith had no right to organize a mob to destroy a public business just for publishing negative things about him.

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#130978 May 19, 2014
chinwendu1 wrote:
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Circle also means sphere. Some people interpret is as like a frisbee or pancake.
Circle does not mean sphere. They are two different words. Circles are two-dimensional shapes; sphere are three-dimensional.
chinwendu1 wrote:
Looking at the rest of the statement, who says one cannot put things under a ball or sphere?
Describe to me the world you are imagining.

Given a disc-shaped world, I can put a mass of water on the underside of the frisbee. Given a globe, where are you putting the water?
chinwendu1 wrote:
The limitations presented here are perceived by man. It is God who created the universe and everything in it. What we think does not limit God.
This isn't a matter of limitations. It's a matter of the Bible being clearly and undeniably wrong because it was written by a primitive culture who had no idea what the world was actually shaped like, or what the sun, moon, and stars really were.

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#130979 May 19, 2014
do whut wrote:
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What? How did you draw that conclusion? Science is fine, but you must know that the evidence is not in on everything, which is why some things remain theories.
Theories never become anything other than theories. There is nothing "higher" in science than a theory.
SistaNoneYa

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#130980 May 19, 2014
Yes and Amen wrote:
<quoted text>http://www.youtube.com /watch?v=C8Be1on3JHkXX
Words YaA, I don't strange vid--ee-yo's.

“See how you are?”

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#130981 May 19, 2014
The_Box wrote:
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Theories never become anything other than theories. There is nothing "higher" in science than a theory.
You do realize that no matter how many times or places this is told to the religies, they will continue posting "that's just a theory" or "that's just your theory" - as if they had anything that even qualifies as a hypothesis.

“See how you are?”

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#130982 May 19, 2014
curious wrote:
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Tis better to be silent and be thought a fool than to open one's mouth and remove all doubt.
Curly from the 3 stooges
I remember that quote - Maurice Switzer wrote it.
So which is it you aspire to, curious? Being a fool or being a stooge?
spaceship

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#130983 May 19, 2014
do whut wrote:
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Smh
The higher law was instituted with Adam. It wasn't taken away until the period before Moses. The lesser law was instituted after the Exodus. Remember?
You don't understand the scriptures beyond scratching the surface, but you don't really listen after you have asked a question. You just look for the next thing to try to pick apart or discount.
Their was no higher law. See below

Romans 5:13
" Yes, people sinned even before the law was given. But it was not counted as sin because there was not yet any law to break."

Matthew.
20 For I tell you, unless your righteousness exceeds that of the scribes and Pharisees, you will never enter the kingdom of heaven.

No Mormon can exceed the strict laws followed by the scribes and Pharisees, no Christians or Jewish. They are theocratic laws .. in secular society you cannot burn witches alive any more. Until you can burn witches alive and take slaves you will not make it to heaven.
curious

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#130985 May 19, 2014
ChromiuMan wrote:
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I remember that quote - Maurice Switzer wrote it.
So which is it you aspire to, curious? Being a fool or being a stooge?
Who was it that said? " We tend to remember those things that remind us of ourselves.
As for me , I aspire to neither , I am not an atheist..........

“See how you are?”

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#130986 May 19, 2014
curious wrote:
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Who was it that said? " We tend to remember those things that remind us of ourselves.
As for me , I aspire to neither , I am not an atheist..........
Not an atheist? Since when? You can't stop talking about them and you embody every negative trait you attribute to them. I think someone is in denial about their true faith.
curious

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#130987 May 19, 2014
justice_- wrote:
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Who would you find more trustworthy ? A group that admits doubt or a group that denies doubt ?
Atheists are distrusted because of their beliefs and personal moral code. They don't doubt , they believe God does not exist.
Moreover, their morals are based on their personal selfish desires.
They try to justify incest between and their child as being acceptable as long as protection is used and both parties consent.
They consider this behaviour to be" icky" , thereby attempting to givie it the appearance that it is nonconsequential.
A child learns at an early age to bond to his/her parents, to trust them and are led to believe that the parent will never intentionally act against the child's best interest.
The parents are the protectors and authority figures in their lives.
For anyone to justify sex between a parent and his/her child as moral ignores the fact that the child trusts his/ her parent , that they wield power over their children.
Why would a daughter willingly have sex with her father?
Out of fear? Out of respect?
Out of the belief that she trusts her father not to do her wrong? Is that sacred trust not violated in order to fulfill the Father's desires?
Parents have a sacred duty to protect their children, not to seduce them and rape them based on the authority and power they wield over them...
However , that is what Yiago and PreK espouse.....and you probably do also
That is not consent, that is manipulating your child in order to fulfill one's immoral and selfish needs..........
To answer your question,when it comes to morals, I do not trust atheists.
The reasons why I would not trust an atheist is very plain....
Given their justification for incest , beastiality , necrophelia and unbridled and unsupervised sex with anyone at any time ,I would not trust them with my children , the dead or my pets

“See how you are?”

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#130988 May 19, 2014
curious wrote:
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Atheists are distrusted because of their beliefs and personal moral code. They don't doubt , they believe God does not exist.
Moreover, their morals are based on their personal selfish desires.
They try to justify incest between and their child as being acceptable as long as protection is used and both parties consent.
They consider this behaviour to be" icky" , thereby attempting to givie it the appearance that it is nonconsequential.
A child learns at an early age to bond to his/her parents, to trust them and are led to believe that the parent will never intentionally act against the child's best interest.
The parents are the protectors and authority figures in their lives.
For anyone to justify sex between a parent and his/her child as moral ignores the fact that the child trusts his/ her parent , that they wield power over their children.
Why would a daughter willingly have sex with her father?
Out of fear? Out of respect?
Out of the belief that she trusts her father not to do her wrong? Is that sacred trust not violated in order to fulfill the Father's desires?
Parents have a sacred duty to protect their children, not to seduce them and rape them based on the authority and power they wield over them...
However , that is what Yiago and PreK espouse.....and you probably do also
That is not consent, that is manipulating your child in order to fulfill one's immoral and selfish needs..........
To answer your question,when it comes to morals, I do not trust atheists.
The reasons why I would not trust an atheist is very plain....
Given their justification for incest , beastiality , necrophelia and unbridled and unsupervised sex with anyone at any time ,I would not trust them with my children , the dead or my pets
It appears that you have issues with religious cult behaviors, not atheists. Have you considered that with English as your second language you just have some terminology confused?
curious

Winter Garden, FL

#130989 May 19, 2014
ChromiuMan wrote:
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Not an atheist? Since when? You can't stop talking about them and you embody every negative trait you attribute to them. I think someone is in denial about their true faith.
Wrong again,nipplenose..
I DO Not advocate incest,beastiality,necrophelia or unbriidled and unreined sex for children begining at age 10 with anyone at any time......
It is true , I do make a point of discussing the real maladies that afflict atheists...
atheists,on the other hand , can not stop talking about a Being that they claim is nonexistent,
ignoring the fact that God is so imbedded in their psyche , that being the reason they are unable to stop mentioning His name...
My God lives and is deeply imbedded in the Psyche of those who outwardly claim His nonexistence

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#130990 May 19, 2014
The_Box wrote:
<quoted text>Can you be more specific about what you'd like to see?
What you said you had

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#130991 May 19, 2014
spaceship wrote:
<quoted text>Think? What excuse does your Mormon brother "Cliven Bundy" have for not thinking? The Mormons have a militia ready to fight the government for land grabbing like the Russians?
What are you asking? I fail to see the relevance

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#130992 May 19, 2014
ChromiuMan wrote:
<quoted text>If you were to say that I'm ignorant of the life and message of Jesus the nazarite (he wasn't called "Christ" until after he was martyred), it would be a falsehood. BTW, there is no "Gospel of Jesus Christ." There is no record that he ever wrote one. The canonized gospels are the first four books of the NT, being Mark, Matthew, Luke and John. There are other gospels of the period that were not included in the NT for various reasons - nothing from the BSOM qualifies.
I can't be sorry that you disdain the description of delusional because I believe it it is largely your choice. If it isn't your choice you deserve to be informed of the condition the same way you might advise someone to have their tinea treated.
Please tell us what you think the message is that He taught.
Gospel means good news. I said nothing about any book that He wrote.

I still don't know what bsom is. Do tell.

You should have your ego treated

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