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Bible study rules for public schools proposed

There are 149955 comments on the The Courier-Journal story from Feb 10, 2010, titled Bible study rules for public schools proposed. In it, The Courier-Journal reports that:

FRANKFORT, Ky. - The state would create rules for teaching about the Bible in public high schools under a bill filed Monday by three Democratic senators.

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Since: Dec 11

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#128202 Apr 12, 2014
Lehi wrote:
It wasn't until I believe 1971 that someone claimed to find court documents from 1823 where JS was charged with fraud. They searched the basement archives at the sheriff department somewhere in NY. and claimed they found what they were looking for. Yea right.
All these accusations came forth because Joseph Smith was having much influence on some of the prominent citizens of the area and they couldn't allow that to happen. Actualy charges were brought against Smith probably 50 times before he was murdered in a jail cell but no convictions or confessions were ever recorded, odd isn't it?
Also for the chrome one, the analogy of fruit doesn't mean actual fruit but I bet you knew that. You people are all alike, you will go to any length to try and tear down something that makes a difference in the world. The powers of evil have trained you well.
Hey, can you point me to some good Book of Mormon battle sites to visit? I'd like to dig for some horse bones and chariot wheels. Surely you guys have some good locations, right? Some monuments and pieces in museums from the old days?

I'd really like to see some of those awesome scimitars and sword hilts that must be scattered around various battle sites.
Yes and Amen

Georgetown, KY

#128203 Apr 12, 2014
ChromiuMan wrote:
<quoted text>
Cyanide in peach pits and ignorance in pews. Analogy stands.
Seems
God knows bore than you....
http://www.naturalnews.com/033123_laetrile_vi... #
Yes and Amen

Georgetown, KY

#128204 Apr 12, 2014
Khatru wrote:
<quoted text>
Because Christianity is so divisive.
"You're either with us or you're damned"
That's the mantra of the Christians.
But....
YOU GET TO CHOOSE!
We don't Force it upon you!
Unlike Obamacare, and socialism....
Yes and Amen

Georgetown, KY

#128205 Apr 12, 2014

Since: Apr 08

Cambridge, UK

#128206 Apr 12, 2014
Known Fact wrote:
<quoted text>
No you have that confused with Greek mythology. Have you never heard of the myth Dante's Inferno?:
Yes, I know millions of Christians get their idea of Hell straight out of the Divine Comedy.

I guess if the Bible god had been a better communicator, this confusion would never have arisen in the first place.

Since: Apr 08

Cambridge, UK

#128207 Apr 12, 2014
Known Fact wrote:
<quoted text>
You like others compare the Mormons with Jehovah's Witnesses when there is no comparison. Where do you get the idea that we are to be compared with LDS?
Mormons, JW's, KKK, Catholics, etc - they're all Christians

Since: Apr 08

Cambridge, UK

#128209 Apr 12, 2014
SevenTee wrote:
<quoted text>
I can see you are still fixated and I can see you have trouble with reading comprehension because I have posted over and over and over scripture that supports everything I post.
For this morning lesson read 2 Peter 2 and report back to your teacher
Why are you so full of hate that you want to constantly insult Christians?
LOL

A Christian complaining about hatred. Please excuse me while I adjust my irony meter.

SevenTee is the guy who admitted that killing homosexuals as well as people who exercise freedom of religion is good.

Speak to a fundie like SevenTee if you really want to know what hatred is:

The fundies in here think that genocide is a god idea.
Yes and Amen

Georgetown, KY

#128210 Apr 12, 2014
Yes and Amen wrote:
<quoted text>Seems
God knows bore than you....
http://www.naturalnews.com/033123_laetrile_vi... #
Meant to type "More", not "Bore"... LOL

“See how you are?”

Since: Jul 12

Earth

#128211 Apr 12, 2014
Lehi wrote:
<quoted text>
If you understood the analogy is not literally about fruit then why mention poison in the seeds?
Am I typing too fast for you? Even what you perceive as "good fruit" will probably not be good for you if you swallow it whole.
Lehi wrote:
<quoted text>I'm fully aware of what to look for in a cult, that's why I have every book on Mormonism history there is.
Born of evil to me is when someone makes an accusation about your beliefs and then they refuse to even debate the possible explanations you present in your defense.
Women are treated as second class citizens, Western LDS communities display misogyny, racism and bigotry. As with other religions, the LDS also perpetuates their own mythologies along side the Bible's as histories and facts. I freely admit I was off on one point. The LDS and its members are much more charitable than the JWs.
Lehi wrote:
<quoted text>Like I said earlier, of all the Christian churches I have attended over the last 50 plus years, I have never had to defend myself on a scale as now. That actually makes me stronger in my beliefs because I wouldn't expect anything less.
Why should a Christian find it necessary to defend themselves at a Christian church? At issue here is not defending yourself, it is accounting for the things the LDS has told you and you have accepted as "Truth." If you feel the need to believe even more strongly because (or in the face of) someone points out the errors of disinformation - as per Eden in Missouri, Amerind Jews or any other "prophecies and revelations" of Joe and Moroni, go for it.
Yes and Amen

Georgetown, KY

#128212 Apr 12, 2014
Khatru wrote:
<quoted text>
Yes, I know millions of Christians get their idea of Hell straight out of the Divine Comedy.
I guess if the Bible god had been a better communicator, this confusion would never have arisen in the first place.
No.... we get it from Jesus.... He talked about it...
Yes and Amen

Georgetown, KY

#128213 Apr 12, 2014
Khatru wrote:
<quoted text>
Mormons, JW's, KKK, Catholics, etc - they're all Christians
Well....
There's yer problem!
Yer just plain Ignorant of the Facts!
Good day!

Since: Apr 08

Cambridge, UK

#128214 Apr 12, 2014
Yiago wrote:
<quoted text>
Those are pretty well substantiated claims. Read up on the Book of Abraham. At the time Smith "translated" it we had not yet figured out how to read Egyptian writing. And when they checked Smith's translation against what the actual texts said...well, let's just say the LDS was quite embarrassed.
Did you see that news story earlier this week about the 3000 year old mummy they found?

What was unusual about this mummy was that it was covered entirely with chocolate.

Egyptologists have confirmed that it's Pharaoh Rocher

Sorry

Since: Apr 08

Cambridge, UK

#128215 Apr 12, 2014
Yes and Amen wrote:
<quoted text>But....
YOU GET TO CHOOSE!
We don't Force it upon you!
Unlike Obamacare, and socialism....
No, but your god makes sure that anyone who doesn't make the choice they want will get tortured for all eternity.

What a sick perverted deity you've invented.
Yes and Amen

Georgetown, KY

#128217 Apr 12, 2014

“Hats Off to God”

Since: Jun 09

3rd Rock

#128218 Apr 12, 2014
Yes and Amen wrote:
<quoted text>Are there some people in other denominations that are Christians???
I have little doubt of it!
Yes Mormons do pound the ground for their faith I can say that...
How is it that they get you to do that? is it a requirement?
I hope you do not think me hateful for warning you of what I believe to be
anathema of the Gospel of Jesus Christ!
My only wish is for you to see....
That the basics of what you learned from your Grandparents is ALL you needed,
ALL anyone needed!
Grace Alone,
Faith Alone,
in
Christ ALONE!
It is a "GIFT" of God, lest ANY man Boast!
Boasting of how many miles you've traveled, Hours you've prayed,
Visited the "Temple".... NONE of that Qualifies a person as a Christian!
This is not a "Do" Relationship....
It's a "Done" Relationship! Trust in Christ!
He didn't do His best, so you can do the rest.... He done it ALL,
and for that.... We do good works, Sharing the Gospel!
There are MANY more videos of this...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =9X6nPJdytXUXX
God Bless!
Your post reminded me of an old Protestant song I heard as a child, "Give Me That Old Time Religion". In it one stanza says, " if it's good enough for grandpa, it's good enough for me".

My grandfather was keen on scripture and all too many times he would disagree with what was being preached from the pulpit so next time we went to church somewhere else. I began to notice how sometimes a church would split because of disagreements with doctrine and a new church would be built down the road.

Knowing how we, according to scripture are usually tossed to and fro by every wind of doctrine, I began to think how could this be? How can different churches disagree on doctrine when they use the same book? How can there be variations in truth?

I prayed a very sincere prayer and asked God if my church was true and if not, how would I ever know the true church if I ever found it. I was given a vivid testimony that the confirming truth of Jesus Christ was written on gold and buried on the North American Continent. It would be 32 years later before I heard of the gold plates and the Book of Mormon. I was very excited at this and wondered how I could ever get a copy of the Book of Mormon, two days later two missionaries from the LDS Church knocked on my door. They said the spirit had strongly prompted them to come all the way to the end of a road they had been down many times but thought no one would live in such a remote location. The spirit was so strong, we all cried.

I had always heard that the Mormon church was a cult so I began my investigation into every facet of the history of the Mormon faith. On the surface there seemed to be insurmountable evidence against the church but the more I delved into what all was behind it, it became evident that there was no factual evidence at all.

I won't go on because you probably wouldn't believe the things I have witnessed as a member of this church. I want to thank you for being civil, it shows you are a true Christian and are genuinely concerned for my salvation.

As for your question about missionaries, it's not a requirement but sometimes undue pressure from their families is put on these young people to go. We have 85,000 missionaries in the field right now and expect that to peak at around 100,000 sometime next year

Now I hope I don't offend you but it is evident that the Bible has been edited down to supposedly contain everything one needs but as you said, it contains the basics and that's good enough for you.

Since: Apr 08

Cambridge, UK

#128219 Apr 12, 2014
Khatru wrote:
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No, but your god makes sure that anyone who doesn't make the choice they want will get tortured for all eternity.
What a sick perverted deity you've invented.
That should read "choice he wants"

“See how you are?”

Since: Jul 12

Earth

#128220 Apr 12, 2014
Known Fact wrote:
<quoted text>
No you have that confused with Greek mythology. Have you never heard of the myth Dante's Inferno?:
Dante wasn't Greek and his Divine Comedy wasn't a myth because it wasn't published as something that actually happened or existed. Khatru was undoubtedly referring to Revelation 19 and 20. Revelation is still in your version of the Bible, isn't it?
Yes and Amen

Georgetown, KY

#128221 Apr 12, 2014
Khatru wrote:
<quoted text>
No, but your god makes sure that anyone who doesn't make the choice they want will get tortured for all eternity.
What a sick perverted deity you've invented.
Sure....
Whatever you want to believe....
I guess people like you think
Hitler, Pol pot, Mao, Stalin, Muslims that cut peoples heads off,
and Blow up school busses should all go to Heaven....
No.... Justice will be done, and Everyone that refuses Jesus....
Gets exactly what they asked for!
Not asking for Salvation is the same as asking for Damnation!

“See how you are?”

Since: Jul 12

Earth

#128222 Apr 12, 2014
Known Fact wrote:
<quoted text>
You like others compare the Mormons with Jehovah's Witnesses when there is no comparison. Where do you get the idea that we are to be compared with LDS?
Thank you for reminding me, KF.
Lehi, I owe you an apology and I'm sincerely sorry. While the LDS and JW's may be comparative as new world sects, since 1985 the LDS has done more good works and currently meets far fewer of the criteria necessary to be categorized as a cult.

“See how you are?”

Since: Jul 12

Earth

#128223 Apr 12, 2014
Yes and Amen wrote:
<quoted text>Seems
God knows bore than you....
http://www.naturalnews.com/033123_laetrile_vi... #
The metabolism of amygdalin produces hydrogen cyanide, a potent toxin. Beta-glucosidase, one of the enzymes that catalyzes the release of cyanide from amygdalin, is present in the human small intestine and in a variety of common foods. This leads to an unpredictable and potentially lethal toxicity when amygdalin or laetrile is taken orally.[3][19][20] Ingestion of purified amygdalin or apricot kernels can cause severe toxicity and death due to cyanide poisoning.[15] Numerous case reports in medical literature describe serious cyanide poisoning in patients who ingested laetrile as a cancer treatment.[9][21] Blood cyanide concentrations may be measured as a means of confirming the diagnosis in hospitalized patients or to assist in the forensic investigation of a fatal overdose.[22]
Some laetrile promoters have claimed that the cyanide generated by laetrile is immediately harmlessly detoxified by the mitochondrial enzyme rhodanese into thiocyanate. However, these claims are false. First, because thiocyanate is also toxic, although to a lesser degree. Second, the body only can use the small amount of rhodanese that is present in the blood, regardless of the stores present in kidneys and liver. Third, the limited factor in this conversion are the stores of cystine, cysteine, and other sulfur compounds, which are rapidly depleted in laetrile poisoning. Fourth, blood analysis shows undetoxified cyanide in persons poisoned with laetrile or with apricot kernels.[9]
[3] Lerner IJ (1981). "Laetrile: a lesson in cancer quackery".
[9] Herbert V (May 1979). "Laetrile: the cult of cyanide. Promoting poison for profit". Am. J. Clin. Nutr. 32 (5): 1121–58. PMID 219680
[15]What is laetrile?, National Cancer Institute
[19] Newmark J, Brady RO, Grimley PM, Gal AE, Waller SG, Thistlethwaite JR (October 1981). "Amygdalin (Laetrile) and prunasin beta-glucosidases: distribution in germ-free rat and in human tumor tissue"

Seems "bore" was not a typo.

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