Bible study rules for public schools ...

Bible study rules for public schools proposed

There are 174910 comments on the The Courier-Journal story from Feb 10, 2010, titled Bible study rules for public schools proposed. In it, The Courier-Journal reports that:

FRANKFORT, Ky. - The state would create rules for teaching about the Bible in public high schools under a bill filed Monday by three Democratic senators.

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“See how you are?”

Since: Jul 12

Earth

#125224 Feb 25, 2014
spaceship wrote:
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Dude, you did not post any links to verify your source.
MrMs. Day Late and Data Short should be too embarrassed to since there hasn't even been an "East Germany" since 1990.

“See how you are?”

Since: Jul 12

Earth

#125225 Feb 25, 2014
spaceship wrote:
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I heard some think it could occur in 2014 or shortly after. Why KF is on this site shows that he must have doubts about his own beliefs. It would be interesting for KF to comment on this information below.
Jehovah's Witnesses are officially forbidden from reading any non-JW religious information. In other words, JW's reading this right now literally risk getting disfellowshipped if they get caught! All non-JW religious material, regardless of the source is called, "apostate material" and quite forbidden to even possess. When you give them a tract at the door, they are not permitted to read it and must throw it out immediately.
"Have No Dealings With Apostates,... For example, what will you do if you receive a letter or some literature, open it, and see right away that it is from an apostate? Will curiosity cause you to read it, just to see what he has to say? You may even reason:`It won't affect me; I'm too strong in the truth. And besides, if we have the truth, we have nothing to fear. The truth will stand the test.' In thinking this way, some have fed their minds upon apostate reasoning and have fallen prey to serious questioning and doubt." (Watchtower, March 15, 1986 p12)
http://www.bible.ca/Jw-internet.htm
The only ones who are unaware that it's a cult are the members.

Since: Feb 14

Location hidden

#125226 Feb 25, 2014
The Bible adds to History--I say to teach the Bible in school in an open room instead of in some back room--before the wrong person does. Let's face it "some" Guardians seem to teach only what they want their children to know to benefit themselves at the moment "that's not what God intended for us," this could help prevent most false teaching that involves half-truth.

Since: Apr 08

Cambridge, UK

#125227 Feb 25, 2014
SistaNoneYa wrote:
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Now lets add some of Germany into the hateful mix-
Country Percent Atheist
East Germany 88.20%
Slovenia 29.80%
Russia 27.30%
East Germany doesn't exist anymore.

But seeing as you mention Germany, let's not forget the millions who died when Christianity represented the vast majority of the population.

Since: Apr 08

Cambridge, UK

#125228 Feb 25, 2014
Yes and Amen wrote:
<quoted text>No... it's built on what Christ did for us....
The respect that God told you NOT to do certain things....
Murdering Babies in their Mothers wombs... just one of them!
Seek God.... only He can fix your ignorance!
Throughout almost its entire history, the driving force behind Christianity has been fear, fear of hell, the devil, and even death. Science and understanding of natural events has largely robbed religions of much of their power, but still today the existence of the devil and hell are fundamental to most Christian groups.

Priests, ministers and Christians in general, continue to try to instill fear into others with the suffering of nonbelievers after death. They are not presenting evidence, logic, or reason, rather, what we see are attempts to scare people through threats, and fear and cowardice

Since: Apr 08

Cambridge, UK

#125229 Feb 25, 2014
Yes and Amen wrote:
<quoted text>Jesus was no liberal...
He cannot lie...
Proves you are a liberal!
Proves our Bible True... Thanks again!
Of course he was Liberal

Jesus was the unemployed son of two asylum-seekers. That's two groups of people that conservatives don't seem to have much time for.

How would a homeless, socially marginal person without a trade or occupation fare under a conservative government? Jesus was all of those. He was also a friend of outcasts and pariahs, averse to material possessions, and a scourge of the rich and powerful. So he would never have got along with conservatives.

A core principle of socialism is redistributing wealth from the rich to the poor. Jesus was all for that.

"You cannot serve God and wealth," (Matthew 6:24) & "The love of money is a root of all kinds of evil" (1 Timothy 6:10). Not very conservative, eh?

What about Jesus clearing the moneylenders and traders from the temple? How like today's left wing activists who rebel against the financial elite.

Jesus believed in free healthcare. If he'd been conservative he'd have charged for his services, demanded to see an insurance card before offering treatment. If Jesus was conservative he would have made sure that he profited from his health-giving powers.

Since: Apr 08

Cambridge, UK

#125230 Feb 25, 2014
ChromiuMan wrote:
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When is the +next time+ the Earth is prophesied to end according to the JWs?
They've got it wrong so many times, I doubt JWs are in the prediction business anymore.

Still, I'm happy to be proven wrong.

Can our resident JW please take the floor and tell us when the world is coming to an end.....

Historian

Paducah, KY

#125231 Feb 25, 2014
-Bamboo- wrote:
The Bible adds to History--I say to teach the Bible in school in an open room instead of in some back room--before the wrong person does. Let's face it "some" Guardians seem to teach only what they want their children to know to benefit themselves at the moment "that's not what God intended for us," this could help prevent most false teaching that involves half-truth.
The Bible actually adds almost nothing to history -- except for a huge mass of misinformation. Almost all of the "history" recorded in the Bible is ancient Hebrew tribal/national mythology and folklore. It has almost no relationship to the real ancient history of the Near East.The further back in history you go, the more that becomes the case. For instance, there is absolutely no record of an imperial kingdom of Israel at the time of King Solomon and King David in the records of any of the other Near Eastern empires that existed at the same time. The Hebrews were just another little chickenshit petty kingdom to the Hittites, Assyrians, et al.

As for the Bible being taught in schools, I ask this: Which Bible are you going to use?

A great many American Protestants insist that the King James version is the only real Bible, and would insist on it. Roman Catholics loathe the King James version. They have their own. Eastern Orthodox Christians have yet another Bible. So do the Copts and Ethiopians. The latter's New Testament is very different from the upon which the Western versions, because it was compiled in Africa in early times, in a process totally outside the Roman sphere where the Western one was compiled. There is also the Book of Mormon.

And then there is the matter of other religions demanding equal access if the Bible is taught in public schools.

Any Christian that insists on Bible study in public schools is a damned fool that is cutting his own religious throat. Because if the Bible is taught to his children in the public schools, then those same children will also be taught other, non-Christian scriptures as well.

“Breaking the spell ”

Since: Dec 10

of the puppet master

#125232 Feb 25, 2014
SevenTee wrote:
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Then you better not drive a car with extreme caution and you better drink water unless you boil it first because you trust in the Government and the laws of the land when you do those simple things. You practice faith and trust in all aspects of life.
Most American's "god" is Money, they worship the S & P 500 and their bankroll. They trust money will make them happy, healthy and wise.
Evidently you already forgot what we were debating. None of this is a religion or a god.
You proved my point, having a trust or faith in a thing does not automatically make it a religion or a god.
Now why would I look to a persons for the correct answers when you cannot follow a simple debate?

“Breaking the spell ”

Since: Dec 10

of the puppet master

#125233 Feb 25, 2014
SevenTee wrote:
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True there is a lot of debate about who initially scribed the Gospels. The Gospels were written from the eye witness accounts preached in the New Testament Churchs in the time immediately after Jesus Christ appeared to many many people after his crusifiction death and burial.
John was the disciple Jesus Loved
Mathew was one of the disciple
Luke was a gentile and a physician
Says the guy with zero evidence of the claim. How is it that city water is beyond your trust?

“Breaking the spell ”

Since: Dec 10

of the puppet master

#125234 Feb 25, 2014
SevenTee wrote:
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Then you better not drive a car with extreme caution and you better drink water unless you boil it first because you trust in the Government and the laws of the land when you do those simple things. You practice faith and trust in all aspects of life.
Most American's "god" is Money, they worship the S & P 500 and their bankroll. They trust money will make them happy, healthy and wise.
So ironic that it is the Christians who demand the currency have "in god we trust" plastered on it. God is not backing up the value of the dollar, the government is, and yes, one must trust the government when using said currency. It does not make government a god, but at least the government is not a figment of ones imagination. Government actually does help people. Yet I do not worship the government.

Also, the love of money and wealth is not a god. God is not love.

“Breaking the spell ”

Since: Dec 10

of the puppet master

#125235 Feb 25, 2014
SistaNoneYa wrote:
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Reality bother you Duquette?
It should.
It often does, and this is why I protest religion. The reality of religious fanatics is real. Some of its nasty effects are shown in the refusal to allow homosexuals to have equality. Some of its nasty effects are shown in an anti science agenda. It got real nasty on 9/11.

“Breaking the spell ”

Since: Dec 10

of the puppet master

#125236 Feb 25, 2014
SistaNoneYa wrote:
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Yawn, your childish pitchfork stuff is so...masochist.
Yet another diversion from your lies. So sad you do not have the ethics or decency to admit wrongs.
You were flatly proved wrong and you just cannot admit it. But that is in line with your claims of perfection. It all adds up.
CURIOUS

Winter Garden, FL

#125238 Feb 25, 2014
SevenTee wrote:
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WOW, I guess there goes about a billion hours of Biblical research down the drain.
Thank Goodness for the atheist TOPIX bloggers for setting the record straight
LOL
The Atheist bloggers not only distort the record , but also fail to understand that our Faith is not based on by whom and when the Gospels were written.
Our Faith is based on the accuracy and validity of the teachings and the message contained therein , which we have tested and found to be worthy.
Who wrote them and when they were written is not the issue.
That the authors may or may not have been witnesses DOES NOT invalidate the message or it's teachings .
I do believe you and I will agree on that..
CURIOUS

Winter Garden, FL

#125240 Feb 25, 2014
Khatru wrote:
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Of course he was Liberal
Jesus was the unemployed son of two asylum-seekers. That's two groups of people that conservatives don't seem to have much time for.
How would a homeless, socially marginal person without a trade or occupation fare under a conservative government? Jesus was all of those. He was also a friend of outcasts and pariahs, averse to material possessions, and a scourge of the rich and powerful. So he would never have got along with conservatives.
A core principle of socialism is redistributing wealth from the rich to the poor. Jesus was all for that.
"You cannot serve God and wealth," (Matthew 6:24) & "The love of money is a root of all kinds of evil" (1 Timothy 6:10). Not very conservative, eh?
What about Jesus clearing the moneylenders and traders from the temple? How like today's left wing activists who rebel against the financial elite.
Jesus believed in free healthcare. If he'd been conservative he'd have charged for his services, demanded to see an insurance card before offering treatment. If Jesus was conservative he would have made sure that he profited from his health-giving powers.
Jesus was neither liberal or conservative , He was and is GODLY.
You brought up some very good points , He was powerless homeless ,unemployed without a trade or occupation and as you accurately stated , did not charge those whom he healed from their blindness ,paralytic condition or other illnesses that others could not cure , all without charging a fee..
And , this homeless ,unemployed and untrained person , by following the instructions of His Father , recruited 12 less fortunate than He and became their teacher.
After his death , He appeared to 11 of them and instructed them to carry forth the teachings and message He had taught them.
And these 11 plus Paul went on accomplish the greatest event in human history , unmatched and unparalled by any individual , group or country..........
The powerless overpowered the powerful with their message.
You are right ., Jesus was and is PHENOMENAL and Supernatural......
spaceship

Rancho Cordova, CA

#125241 Feb 25, 2014
Major companies want the AZ Governor to veto religious extremist republican segregation bill. Time to dump the tax exemptions for religion.

“Breaking the spell ”

Since: Dec 10

of the puppet master

#125242 Feb 25, 2014
-Bamboo- wrote:
The Bible adds to History--I say to teach the Bible in school in an open room instead of in some back room--before the wrong person does. Let's face it "some" Guardians seem to teach only what they want their children to know to benefit themselves at the moment "that's not what God intended for us," this could help prevent most false teaching that involves half-truth.
"Adds to history"? You means adds lies and exaggerations.

“Breaking the spell ”

Since: Dec 10

of the puppet master

#125243 Feb 25, 2014
SistaNoneYa wrote:
<quoted text>
Now lets add some of Germany into the hateful mix-
Country Percent Atheist
East Germany 88.20%
Slovenia 29.80%
Russia 27.30%
Did you have a point this time Sista McCarthy?

“Breaking the spell ”

Since: Dec 10

of the puppet master

#125244 Feb 25, 2014
Khatru wrote:
<quoted text>
Of course he was Liberal
Jesus was the unemployed son of two asylum-seekers. That's two groups of people that conservatives don't seem to have much time for.
How would a homeless, socially marginal person without a trade or occupation fare under a conservative government? Jesus was all of those. He was also a friend of outcasts and pariahs, averse to material possessions, and a scourge of the rich and powerful. So he would never have got along with conservatives.
A core principle of socialism is redistributing wealth from the rich to the poor. Jesus was all for that.
"You cannot serve God and wealth," (Matthew 6:24) & "The love of money is a root of all kinds of evil" (1 Timothy 6:10). Not very conservative, eh?
What about Jesus clearing the moneylenders and traders from the temple? How like today's left wing activists who rebel against the financial elite.
Jesus believed in free healthcare. If he'd been conservative he'd have charged for his services, demanded to see an insurance card before offering treatment. If Jesus was conservative he would have made sure that he profited from his health-giving powers.
Conservatives do not emulate Jesus, they do tend to follow the Old Testament ideals though.

“Breaking the spell ”

Since: Dec 10

of the puppet master

#125245 Feb 25, 2014
SevenTee wrote:
<quoted text>
WOW, I guess there goes about a billion hours of Biblical research down the drain.
Thank Goodness for the atheist TOPIX bloggers for setting the record straight
LOL
He is simply repeating what biblical scholars mostly agree upon. A few fundie types always disagree with absolutely zero evidence to back up position.

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