Bible study rules for public schools ...

Bible study rules for public schools proposed

There are 151860 comments on the The Courier-Journal story from Feb 10, 2010, titled Bible study rules for public schools proposed. In it, The Courier-Journal reports that:

FRANKFORT, Ky. - The state would create rules for teaching about the Bible in public high schools under a bill filed Monday by three Democratic senators.

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SistaNoneYa

London, KY

#125186 Feb 24, 2014
Mike Duquette wrote:
<quoted text>Shocker, call the inquirer. Various animal species live in every part of the earth.
Noah's Ark is an impossibility. It is clearly myth.
Watch the episode, you might actually learn what "non-verbatim" is.

Duhmmy.
Historian

Cadiz, KY

#125187 Feb 24, 2014
SevenTee wrote:
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True there is a lot of debate about who initially scribed the Gospels. The Gospels were written from the eye witness accounts preached in the New Testament Churchs in the time immediately after Jesus Christ appeared to many many people after his crusifiction death and burial.
John was the disciple Jesus Loved
Mathew was one of the disciple
Luke was a gentile and a physician
Most reputable Bible scholars accept that the Gospels were written by someone other than the named apostles, Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John. Since the early 19th century there has been a school of thought that contends that they were all sourced on a manuscript called the Q-document (Q is for "Quelle" the German word for "source") that has now been lost. It was fairly common in the 1st century Roman/Greek world for a scribe to follow around after a famous person, collect that person's sayings, and write them down. The scholars who hold that the Q-document underlies the Gospels think that such a scribe followed Jesus around, or went around later, and collected his sayings. Whoever wrote the Gospels under the name of the apostles then used it as their source of information.

“See how you are?”

Since: Jul 12

Earth

#125188 Feb 24, 2014
SistaNoneYa wrote:
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Did you watch it?
Interesting huh!
I have watched a couple episodes of Ancient Aliens, I might have seen that one. The rumor is that Giorgio Tsoukalos' hair indicates he is slowly being beamed up by the mothership.

Since: Dec 11

Location hidden

#125189 Feb 24, 2014
SevenTee wrote:
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True there is a lot of debate about who initially scribed the Gospels. The Gospels were written from the eye witness accounts preached in the New Testament Churchs in the time immediately after Jesus Christ appeared to many many people after his crusifiction death and burial.
This is not supported by scholars. The Gospels were written in the late first century and early second century by unknown authors.
SevenTee wrote:
John was the disciple Jesus Loved
How do you know? When does the author identify himself as John?
SevenTee wrote:
Mathew was one of the disciple
Yes, Matthew was. But the Gospel of Matthew never says it was written by Matthew nor does its author claim to be an eyewitness.
SevenTee wrote:
Luke was a gentile and a physician
And not an eyewitness.
SistaNoneYa

London, KY

#125190 Feb 24, 2014
Mike Duquette wrote:
<quoted text>Well I can agree the forcing of religion or no religion is always bad. It was bad when it was claimed Moses did it in the bible, and it was bad when communists did it.
Speaking out about the good or bad of religion is the right way to address the issue, not force. Government indoctrination of religion, or even anti religion is always wrong. Favoring any particular holy book by a government is always wrong.
There is no more iron curtain, and I am pretty sure the governments there do not demand what you worship or not anymore.
There's STILL Communism though...and THAT is the crux of the violence there...retaining EU independency, or being reliant on the more communistic dependency.
spaceship

Rancho Cordova, CA

#125191 Feb 24, 2014
Apostle Amber wrote:
<quoted text>
He turned water into wine for me
Have you taking a sip of it lately? Did Jesus make a case of the good stuff for you ? Jesus must be busy I see a lot of wine product in the store. My guess Jesus is tempting the alcoholics after there AA meetings.

Since: Feb 14

Location hidden

#125192 Feb 24, 2014
We are to "Avoid" false teaching--we certainly can't give our children to the tutelage of a truth-hating system.
SistaNoneYa

London, KY

#125193 Feb 24, 2014
ChromiuMan wrote:
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I have watched a couple episodes of Ancient Aliens, I might have seen that one. The rumor is that Giorgio Tsoukalos' hair indicates he is slowly being beamed up by the mothership.
Might be a theory for your "dem rocks n stuff kuld'nt've been non-machined"....

Dat might make fer another good episode!
CURIOUS

Winter Garden, FL

#125194 Feb 24, 2014
SevenTee wrote:
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True there is a lot of debate about who initially scribed the Gospels. The Gospels were written from the eye witness accounts preached in the New Testament Churchs in the time immediately after Jesus Christ appeared to many many people after his crusifiction death and burial.
John was the disciple Jesus Loved
Mathew was one of the disciple
Luke was a gentile and a physician
This debate can go on forever . Atheists and unbelivers have attempted to destroy Christianity since it's inception.
All you need is to read the Book of Acts of the Apostled where Gamaliel made a very interesting observation
"27 And when they had brought them, they stood them before the Council. And the high priest questioned them, 28 saying,“We gave you strict orders not to continue teaching in this name, and behold, you have filled Jerusalem with your teaching, and intend to bring this man’s blood upon us.” 29 But Peter and the apostles answered and said,“We must obey God rather than men. 30 “The God of our fathers raised up Jesus,WHOM YOU HAD put to death by hanging Him on a cross. 31 “He is the one whom God exalted to His right hand as a Prince and a Savior, to grant repentance to Israel, and forgiveness of sins. 32 And we are witnesses of these things; and so is the Holy Spirit, whom God has given to those who obey Him.”70
33 But when they heard this, they were cut to the quick and were intending to slay them. 34 But a certain Pharisee named Gamaliel, a teacher of the law, respected by all the people, stood up in the Council and gave orders to put the men outside for a short time.71 35 And he said to them,

“Men of Israel, take care what you propose to do with these men. 36 “For some time ago Theudas rose up, claiming to be somebody; and a group of about four hundred men joined up with him. And he was slain; and all who followed him were dispersed and came to nothing. 37 “After this man Judas of Galilee rose up in the days of the census, and drew away some people after him, he too perished, and all those who followed him were scattered. 38 “And so in the present case, I say to you, stay away from these men and let them alone, FOR IF THIS PLAN OR ACTION IS OF MEN,IT WILL BE OVERTHROWN 39 but if it is of God, ;YOU WILL NOT BE ABLE TO OVERTHROW THEM or else you may even be found fighting against God.”
Since that time , many have tried and ALL have failed.
con't
CURIOUS

Winter Garden, FL

#125195 Feb 24, 2014
Instead of looking at the past , let us look at the present condition of Christians VS Atheists.
It is worth repeating; Studies indicate that the Atheist faithful are more lokely to commit suicide , have more mental and physical problems ,is more likely to abuse drugs and alcohol and other maladies than those Christians who attend church.
Atheism does not provide a solution for these problems , it is the ceator of these problems.
It is for those reasons that Atheists organized their own church , based on Christian principles.
This Week magazine
Harry Cheadle at Vice admits he started on his path toward atheism because he "wanted to stay home on Sundays." But the idea of an atheist church has him reconsidering his aversion to organized religion
Since I'm an atheist, I'll base this claim on data: Studies have shown that those who go to church are happier, more optimistic, and healthier than others; attending religious services helps kids fight depression and by some accounts makes people more charitable. Obviously most atheists won't have a very good time gathering at a church or synagogue or temple where everyone is devoted to praising and beseeching an imaginary being, but if you believe these studies, they could do with attending something like church"
What Atheists fail to understand is that the foundation of Christianity " Jesus Christ" is the power that makes these benefits possible.
This is not the first time that atheists have attempted to band together to form a mbetter community . Their efforts in the past have turned into abject failures.
Their present attempt , the Atheist Church set some lofty goals , none which have been achieved in terms of bettering the conditions for the members of their faith.
The reality is that this movement is already tottering on it's foundation.
The church in London is fighting with the church in NYC , not over how to better serve and resolve the problems that the members of their faith encounter when they deconvert , they are fighting over who disbelieves in God more passionately.
It is this unbelief that causes their problems, as evidenced by the fact that they are faced with these maladies after they deconvert.
So , Atheists can attempt to discredit the bible,whether it be the old or new testament or both and profess their unbelief in God...
It is the members of their faith who are paying the consequences.
Ultimately , their actions are only detrimental to themselves.
As Christians , our Faith and beliefs are grounded on a strong foundation that no one has been able to shake , in spite of it's humble beginings , since it's inception.
!2 weak and powerless sinners ,selecteft by Our Lord and under His instructions started the biggest movement known by man. They conquered without ever having fired a shot.
The power of God's word is sharper than any two edged sword and more powerful than the inane rantings" wisdom" of unbelievers

Being honest

Irvine, KY

#125196 Feb 24, 2014
1. Are you going to provide an alternative for someone who has a different religion?
2. Teaching religious origins is different than having a "bible study"
3. A little off subject but I really wonder have our officials ever even read the constitution
spaceship

Rancho Cordova, CA

#125197 Feb 24, 2014
Apple, American Airlines and Marriott delivered a message to Arizona Gov. Jan Brewer on Monday: State legislation allowing companies to discriminate against gays on religious grounds would be bad for business.

http://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/big-busin...
Historian

Cadiz, KY

#125198 Feb 24, 2014
SistaNoneYa wrote:
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There's STILL Communism though...and THAT is the crux of the violence there...retaining EU independency, or being reliant on the more communistic dependency.
You are wrong as hell and twice as damn stupid.

The issue in most of Eastern Europe today has nothing to do with communism. It does have to do with the fact that a huge number of Eastern Europeans identify the EU with German imperialism and aggression - which they got two big bloody doses of in the 20th century, 1914-18 and 1939-45. They see what you are calling "independency" as submission to German economic conquest.
Known Fact

Orlando, FL

#125199 Feb 24, 2014
Historian wrote:
<quoted text>
You are wrong as hell and twice as damn stupid.
The issue in most of Eastern Europe today has nothing to do with communism. It does have to do with the fact that a huge number of Eastern Europeans identify the EU with German imperialism and aggression - which they got two big bloody doses of in the 20th century, 1914-18 and 1939-45. They see what you are calling "independency" as submission to German economic conquest.
A good ole Southern Expression is, "What in the world does that have to do with 'Bible study rules for public schools proposed'"?
If you want to discuss WW1 & WW2 a good post would be: "How does WW1 & WW2 fit into Bible prophecy?"

Since: Apr 08

Cambridge, UK

#125200 Feb 24, 2014
Known Fact wrote:
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A good ole Southern Expression is, "What in the world does that have to do with 'Bible study rules for public schools proposed'"?
If you want to discuss WW1 & WW2 a good post would be: "How does WW1 & WW2 fit into Bible prophecy?"
Ask Sista

He was the one who brought Ukraine into the thread.
Mississippi Man

Olive Branch, MS

#125202 Feb 24, 2014
First, I have not read this thread in its entirety. Second, I am a church-goer. My first impulse would be, "you bet, put it in the schools." However, the Catholic, Islamic, Baptist, etc. would surely clash. Then, thinking deeper,.....if the Mom's and Dad's were doing right and "taking" the kids to church while teaching at home and if the churches were teaching in accordance to the B I B L E , what worry would we have? There would be no need to put religion in the class room. Besides, because of government regulations, it don't look like the school teachers are able to do such a good job anyway.
Yes and Amen

Richmond, KY

#125203 Feb 25, 2014
SistaNoneYa wrote:
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Some still haven't figured out there was history BEFORE 1917.
It's ALL of history that they want to re-write....
Twist our Constitution, Ignore the laws.....
Reduce our Military, and keep their salaries....
Everything to Kill America!
I thank God.... His return is soon!
Amen!
Historian

Paducah, KY

#125204 Feb 25, 2014
Known Fact wrote:
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A good ole Southern Expression is, "What in the world does that have to do with 'Bible study rules for public schools proposed'"?
If you want to discuss WW1 & WW2 a good post would be: "How does WW1 & WW2 fit into Bible prophecy?"
WW1 and WW2 have absolutely nothing to do with Bible prophecy and Bible prophecy had absolutely nothing to say about either conflict.

However, a look a what the spewers of the popular "Bible prophecy" hogwash were saying in 1914-18 is an education in how it was and is nothing but a pile of hog shit that some crackpot preacher has thought up and papered over with Bible verses.
SistaNoneYa

London, KY

#125205 Feb 25, 2014
Historian wrote:
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You are wrong as hell and twice as damn stupid.
The issue in most of Eastern Europe today has nothing to do with communism. It does have to do with the fact that a huge number of Eastern Europeans identify the EU with German imperialism and aggression - which they got two big bloody doses of in the 20th century, 1914-18 and 1939-45. They see what you are calling "independency" as submission to German economic conquest.
Sure thing there histronic..what ever you want to make up and believe.

Just keep it away from the actually sane, knowing better and innocent types.
SistaNoneYa

London, KY

#125206 Feb 25, 2014
Khatru wrote:
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Ask Sista
He was the one who brought Ukraine into the thread.
Now lets add some of Germany into the hateful mix-

Country Percent Atheist

East Germany 88.20%
Slovenia 29.80%
Russia 27.30%

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