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Bible study rules for public schools proposed

There are 156562 comments on the The Courier-Journal story from Feb 10, 2010, titled Bible study rules for public schools proposed. In it, The Courier-Journal reports that:

FRANKFORT, Ky. - The state would create rules for teaching about the Bible in public high schools under a bill filed Monday by three Democratic senators.

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“See how you are?”

Since: Jul 12

Earth

#123783 Feb 10, 2014
aWitchintheWoods wrote:
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You really do lack comprehension in even the most BASIC area of BIOLOGY, don't you, bright boy?
The primary function of a vagina is REPRODUCTION.
Along with hypocrisy and venom, total lack of comprehension is just another facet of Sista's towering intellect. He/she/it probably thinks that all of the clueless and nuts judgits he/she/it has collected are unearned, too.

Since: Dec 11

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#123784 Feb 10, 2014
SevenTee wrote:
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You will never be able to prove there was not a great flood.
It's already been disproven.

1. Disproven by Archaeology - Numerous civilizations, like the Egyptians, have history that continues uninterrupted during the time period the flood supposedly occurred.
2. Disproven by Geology - Floods leave significant geological evidence. Noah's flood was supposed to be, by far, the biggest flood in Earth's history, yet left no geological evidence.
3. Disproven by Biology - There are far too many species on Earth to possibly fit on a single boat.
4. Disproven by biogeography - There is no way to explain the biogeography of life on Earth if the flood occurred.
5. Disproven by logistics - It is impossible that one man collected, stored, and fed all the species on his boat.
6. Disproven by water - There isn't enough water for the Earth to flood to the highest mountains.
SevenTee wrote:
You will never be able to prove anything in the Bible is historically inaccurate.
Already been done. The Exodus, for example, is fiction. The Hebrews were not Egyptian slaves; they were Canaanites.

Since: Feb 14

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#123786 Feb 10, 2014
The_Box wrote:
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It's already been disproven.
1. Disproven by Archaeology - Numerous civilizations, like the Egyptians, have history that continues uninterrupted during the time period the flood supposedly occurred.
2. Disproven by Geology - Floods leave significant geological evidence. Noah's flood was supposed to be, by far, the biggest flood in Earth's history, yet left no geological evidence.
3. Disproven by Biology - There are far too many species on Earth to possibly fit on a single boat.
4. Disproven by biogeography - There is no way to explain the biogeography of life on Earth if the flood occurred.
5. Disproven by logistics - It is impossible that one man collected, stored, and fed all the species on his boat.
6. Disproven by water - There isn't enough water for the Earth to flood to the highest mountains.
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Already been done. The Exodus, for example, is fiction. The Hebrews were not Egyptian slaves; they were Canaanites.
Everything and writings are post flood.. The oldest writings known are of the sumerians, for a reason. They (sumerians) speak of the flood as do other ancient cultures from around the globe and it is not just the bible..

“See how you are?”

Since: Jul 12

Earth

#123788 Feb 10, 2014
SistaNoneYa wrote:
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Soooo..... is that you stalking my posts like some freakish mental case or isn't it?
You mean all of those clueless and nuts judgits? Are you slipping into the religies persecution paranoia, Sista?
I'm not your "stalker". I think it's just the case of general consensus among critical thinkers. If you ever post something that's agreeable, helpful, interesting, etc., I'll let you know - I'm sure I'd find it remarkable.
Turnabout - is it you, YaA and curious who post negative judgits on my posts -->regardless of their content? <shrug> Lack of principles and integrity is yall's norm. Why should I care?

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Since: Jul 12

Earth

#123789 Feb 10, 2014
SevenTee wrote:
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There are tons of a Jewish historical writings which are non-Biblical to support Abraham and his people all the way back to the beginning.
You have nothing but your hatred and blind obedience to atheism
No one even knows who wrote the Pentateuch. Anything that was written afterward can hardly be considered evidence of "Abraham and his people all the way back to the beginning." The Sumerians predated your "back to the beginning", as did many other peoples across the globe.
All that makes one scroll "biblical" and another not was in the assembly of the Bible.
What distinguishes an ancient "holy" writing from an ancient "mythological" writing from an ancient "historical" one? In my case it is evidence, in your case it is faith. Do you see the disconnect, here?
You mean that Semitic writings about Semitic legends are evidence that the events happened? It doesn't work that way. I do not hate history and I do think there are credible historical references in the Bible, but I also find blind acceptance and bias confirmation of arcane magic to be disturbing - and disturbed. Call me an atheist for that. Your solemn wish is to be the proud recipient and bearer of disinformation. That's your call, not mine.

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Since: Jul 12

Earth

#123790 Feb 10, 2014
SevenTee wrote:
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You need to PROVE 1-6. You are stating your opinions and you are clearly not a scientist so you have no credibility. If you knew what you were talking about you would be prepared to offer something to back up your statements. Like cite a scholarly source or an legit engineering or archeological study that proves you BS statements
Try again
Surely you could see your double standard as clearly as everyone else does - if you dared to. You require those who disagree with you to "prove" statements, yet you have NEVER offered the slightest evidence of your own except to demand others to read the Bible. The Bible makes extraordinary claims, and with that requires extraordinary evidence. It is >your< job to prove your assertions. The wholly, completely and absolutely unsubstantiated boast that the Bible is "the word of God" simply doesn't cut it.
I challenged you to find where in the Bible it states that Noah was scoffed at and where it states that he offered to save others' children. You stammered, diverted and completely dropped the ball on something that should have been easy-peasy for you - IF YOU COULD DO IT. Now you demand others must provide you with scholarly sources, archaeological and engineering studies... with yourself as the final and ultimate judge of veracity. Pffft. Why should anyone waste their time?
spaceship

Rancho Cordova, CA

#123791 Feb 10, 2014
pusherman_ wrote:
<quoted text> Man dies because of sin, physical death of man at an early age was brought on as punishment for sin, notice in the bible ,After Adams expulsion from the garden, how life age changed..
Blind faith of a team fundie member like yourself have no more validity than Jimmy Swaggart , Tammy Faye ,Jim baker, Oral Roberts or the buybull.

“Justice Sweet”

Since: Jan 14

Mount Vernon

#123792 Feb 10, 2014
pusherman_ wrote:
<quoted text> Where in the bible does it say, the earth was flat? i know it says it was dark and w/out form.. Science can only explain the workings of the machine but nothing of the builder.. Science will continue to explore and Religion will perservere!
Where in my post did I claim the Bible said the earth was flat? You're missing the point . I said the Bible existed at a time when people thought the earth was flat. Now maybe you can answer why the lifespan of patriarchs from Adam to Noah was around 900 yrs?

I think that's crap "science teaches nothing about the builder"... When I became a mother science taught me how I became pregnant , how that human grew inside me, and how my body was the builder of this human that I brought in this world . The Bible didn't teach me that and I didn't blindly walk around and put it all up to faith. I. saw a doctor, got blood test, checked the baby routinely. with the help of science .
It seems ignorant to think science doesn't explain the builder.....Its the only thing that explains it logically .
Curious

Winter Garden, FL

#123793 Feb 10, 2014
Quantummist wrote:
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Just one more time... There was Never Nothing... There was Energy... Matter converts out of energy... Energy is and always was Something... It's far more reasonable that the Matter of the Universe converted from the Energy that was there during the Big Bang than a Invisible being magically when Poof ....
Tellme where this matter came from? Did it always exist? Does it posses the qualities of life,intelligence and consciousness?
And I have another question. We know for a fact that the human species can only reproduce by the fertilization of a female egg by male sperm. There is no other way.
If the human species came into being by means of evolution , then how is it that we can only reproduce by the means we know of today?
When did that process occur? How did it occur?
One would have to accept that human males evolved , females evolved separately , and both were equipped with the necessary means to continue the species by fertilization..
All this would have had to happen by some unintelligent process ,guided by nothing.
Possibly you can explain how this may have logically occured?
BTW There is no magical invisible being , that is a figment of atheists imagination and we do not believe in such.
It is reasonable to believe that , He who created us ,created us male and female , provided
His creation with the necessary means to procreate.
For one to claim that this all happened by accidental means is devoid of logic and reason.
That is the position Atheists have painted themselves into from which they can not escape.
Our God is real , Our God reigns and jesus Christ is Lord..
That is what we believe and with good reason

“Speaker of Mountain Wisdom....”

Since: Jan 10

London, KY

#123794 Feb 10, 2014
pusherman_ wrote:
<quoted text> If energy was always there, wouldn't that mean there was no big bang? i mean something has to excert energy before the push can happen right? i am sitting here, yeah, thats energy, but until i start moving, that energy has no push..If energy always was, then everything else would've had to have been also..
No.. You don't understand what Energy is ... You are mistaking Force for Energy...

Try to imagine a 1"X1"X1" cube of matter .... and nothing else in the universe... Just a Cube of matter ..... As Einstein stated and has been evidenced with decades of nuclear explosions and reactors Matter can be converted into energy and energy can be converted into energy...

Now we 100% convert the Cube of Matter into Energy... Now you have energy without matter.. When you started you had a finite (1"X1"X1" cube of matter) but now if you attempt to calculate the amount of Energy (is physics it's called energy density) it calculates as Infinite because there is no matter for the math to apply.. It is not measurable but we Know it was derived from a specific finite amount of matter...

Now imagine we now convert a new cube of matter from that Indefinable Unified Quanta of Energy that is 1mmX1mmX1mm ... The remaining energy left still exists and is manifest as a connective force between each and every particle.. The Conversion of the cube from that energy causes a Big Bang ...

“Justice Sweet”

Since: Jan 14

Mount Vernon

#123795 Feb 10, 2014
DisgustedbyIgnorance wrote:
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Many teenagers would do FAR better discussing actual issues, than the the third grade juvenile sandbox level mentality of merely snipping at others, shown here.
Not talking to minors still. Adults only! Your mom would have a problem if she knew what you were trying to discuss on here.

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Since: Jul 12

Earth

#123796 Feb 10, 2014
Curious wrote:
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Tellme where this matter came from? Did it always exist? Does it posses the qualities of life,intelligence and consciousness?
And I have another question. We know for a fact that the human species can only reproduce by the fertilization of a female egg by male sperm. There is no other way.
If the human species came into being by means of evolution , then how is it that we can only reproduce by the means we know of today?
When did that process occur? How did it occur?
One would have to accept that human males evolved , females evolved separately , and both were equipped with the necessary means to continue the species by fertilization..
All this would have had to happen by some unintelligent process ,guided by nothing.
Possibly you can explain how this may have logically occured?
BTW There is no magical invisible being , that is a figment of atheists imagination and we do not believe in such.
It is reasonable to believe that , He who created us ,created us male and female , provided
His creation with the necessary means to procreate.
For one to claim that this all happened by accidental means is devoid of logic and reason.
That is the position Atheists have painted themselves into from which they can not escape.
Our God is real , Our God reigns and jesus Christ is Lord..
That is what we believe and with good reason
curious wrote: "I don't actually want to understand diddlysquat, so Goddiditwithmagic."

“See how you are?”

Since: Jul 12

Earth

#123797 Feb 10, 2014
justice_- wrote:
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Where in my post did I claim the Bible said the earth was flat? You're missing the point . I said the Bible existed at a time when people thought the earth was flat. Now maybe you can answer why the lifespan of patriarchs from Adam to Noah was around 900 yrs?
I think that's crap "science teaches nothing about the builder"... When I became a mother science taught me how I became pregnant , how that human grew inside me, and how my body was the builder of this human that I brought in this world . The Bible didn't teach me that and I didn't blindly walk around and put it all up to faith. I. saw a doctor, got blood test, checked the baby routinely. with the help of science .
It seems ignorant to think science doesn't explain the builder.....Its the only thing that explains it logically .
The terms "ends of the Earth" and "the four corners of the world" are biblical sayings. Bible thumpers will claim that the Bible says the Earth is round, but the Hebrew term used describes a disc, not a ball. To those ancient sheep herders, the Earth was flat and the sky was a dome.
Interestingly, Methuselah is calculated to have been born before the flood and died afterward - but was not on the ark. Naturally, this is not accepted gracefully by fundies.
Science does not try to explain "The Builder", because it would just get in the way of the actual evidence.

Since: Dec 11

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#123798 Feb 10, 2014
pusherman_ wrote:
<quoted text> Everything and writings are post flood.
The Bible dates the flood to around 2400 BC. This is smack-dab in the middle of the Egyptian Old Kingdom, the height of Egyptian civilization (when they were building the pyramids).

It's strange that the Egyptians didn't notice being wiped out entirely.

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#123800 Feb 10, 2014
Curious wrote:
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One would have to accept that human males evolved , females evolved separately , and both were equipped with the necessary means to continue the species by fertilization..
Why would they have evolved separately? Previous hominid species already used sexual reproduction.

Since: Feb 14

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#123801 Feb 10, 2014
spaceship wrote:
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Blind faith of a team fundie member like yourself have no more validity than Jimmy Swaggart , Tammy Faye ,Jim baker, Oral Roberts or the buybull.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =Q1OXAi7rNMgXX
but you do huh? i thought the same thing bout you atheist.. you ain't having much luck playing follow the leader are you!

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Since: Jul 12

Earth

#123802 Feb 10, 2014
The_Box wrote:
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Why would they have evolved separately? Previous hominid species already used sexual reproduction.
If you are hoping that even the simplest observations are within religies' abilities, you've got an optimism that would make Pangloss look like Eeyore.
Curious

Winter Garden, FL

#123803 Feb 10, 2014
ChromiuMan wrote:
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curious wrote: "I don't actually want to understand diddlysquat, so Goddiditwithmagic."
Chroe wrote , " I am a fool and do not believe in God , therefore, everything around me , the universe and all therein , came about as the result of some accident , caused by a nonintelligent,nonliving , nonconscious nonexistent power which I am unable to account for"
" color me stupid with the brush of ignorance and the paint of stupidity"
Yikes....
"Then hang me out to dry with the other Atheists, under the Sun created by him in whom I don't believe" BANG..........
,Our God lives , the prattering of fools can not and will not negate that reality.
BTW I see in another post where you dubbed Krak as K...Thereby denoting his educational level.....PreK may have been more accurate........

Since: Feb 14

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#123804 Feb 10, 2014
The_Box wrote:
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The Bible dates the flood to around 2400 BC. This is smack-dab in the middle of the Egyptian Old Kingdom, the height of Egyptian civilization (when they were building the pyramids).
It's strange that the Egyptians didn't notice being wiped out entirely.
the sumerian writings are the oldest writings known of to man, i think, older than the bible apparently, and they and other ancient cultures spoke of a flood blah blah, so that would put the date much earlier than what the bible says..that alone nullifies what the bible says.., if that were the case, no other part of the old testament would have been written prior to the flood, cause obviously the flood would've wiped out the writings..

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Since: Jul 12

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#123805 Feb 10, 2014
pusherman_ wrote:
<quoted text> but you do huh? i thought the same thing bout you atheist.. you ain't having much luck playing follow the leader are you!
Because it makes so much more sense to goose-step to the drum beat of religious delusion?
Low sales here on your opium of the masses got you down, pusherman? Awww...

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