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Bible study rules for public schools proposed

There are 180165 comments on the The Courier-Journal story from Feb 10, 2010, titled Bible study rules for public schools proposed. In it, The Courier-Journal reports that:

FRANKFORT, Ky. - The state would create rules for teaching about the Bible in public high schools under a bill filed Monday by three Democratic senators.

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Since: Feb 14

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#123466 Feb 6, 2014
spaceship wrote:
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Just wondering how you stand on the heavens and the earth being created in 6 literal days?
How about evolution?
Does the new Pope believe in evolution?
The answer is actually yes. And in fact, the Roman Catholic Church has recognized Darwinian evolution for the past 60 years. It openly rejects Intelligent Design and Young Earth Creationism saying that it "pretends to be science."
http://io9.com/does-the-new-pope-believe-in-e...
Lesson to All
A final lesson and warning applies to the Church, Science, and the modern Creationist movement today. Beware of holding steadfastly to a particular interpretation of Scripture and/or a scientific model, which may be in error. For instance, there are various scientific challenges to the Young-Earth Creationist position. We should hold many of our scientific views and their corresponding Biblical interpretations loosely. For we will never have all the right answers this side of heaven.
http://christiananswers.net/q-eden/galileo.ht...
I really have no comment on it.. I will say that it doesn't surprise me about the pope and we'll leave it at that. I liked your reading tho, thank you again

“See how you are?”

Since: Jul 12

Earth

#123467 Feb 6, 2014
Justice_- wrote:
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What dead uncle? Mine are all living.. My profile is logged in every time I post...I can't take credit for someone else that pissed you off. I'm glad to hear I'm not the only one that disagrees with your rantings ......
He does this all the time. He somehow believes that there is only one agnostic/atheist who posts under a half dozen registrations. In his mind, "all one of us" is/are delusional, but he, the burnout, the JW cultist, the CO2 supporter and the gender confused baby talker are not...

Since: Apr 08

Cambridge, UK

#123468 Feb 6, 2014
pusherman_ wrote:
<quoted text> So you don't know huh? yet, you get on here and mouth your opinion. I'll give you another hint, he was the discover of that something...Even tho you're discrediting him, you believe every scientist but one of the greastest.. OOKKK!!! I should say that he really wasn't the first but probably the most notable..
Are you talking about Georges Lemaitre?

The Belgian priest behind the Big Bang Theory?

Since: Feb 14

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#123469 Feb 6, 2014
Khatru wrote:
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Are you talking about Georges Lemaitre?
The Belgian priest behind the Big Bang Theory?
No! there were many but this one was probably the most noted and recognized, it's not really important, i was just seeing if you knew cause you're always hollering science...
Happy

Corbin, KY

#123470 Feb 6, 2014
All i know is i hope all of you have a wonderful day and can respect each others opinions at the end of the day. You will not be able to convince each other whether you are right or wrong. Its impossible. This and politics are two subjects people are passionate about. If these 117,774 people that have posted on this would have posted words of encouragement instead of this, there would be 117,774 happier people in the world. Stop looking for how we are different, start looking at how we are all the same. We have families, jobs, and tough times we all deal with daily. Words of encouragement would make all of that a little easier for all of us.

Have a wonderful day, and wish all of you the best today.

Since: Apr 08

Cambridge, UK

#123471 Feb 6, 2014
pusherman_ wrote:
<quoted text> No! there were many but this one was probably the most noted and recognized, it's not really important, i was just seeing if you knew cause you're always hollering science...
Given the runaway success of science is it any wonder I choose it in preference to religion.

Science is the investigation of the universe using observation and reason. What we have with science is trust and expectation based on a long and brilliantly successful career of explaining and predicting nature.

In fact, we fully expect science to go from success to success.
spaceship

Rancho Cordova, CA

#123472 Feb 6, 2014
pusherman_ wrote:
<quoted text> I really have no comment on it.. I will say that it doesn't surprise me about the pope and we'll leave it at that. I liked your reading tho, thank you again
Many Christians like Yaa believe you will be sent to heaven as soon as you die. I don't see the bible writer shows that for the majority. It talks about a thousand year reign on earth. So the intent of the bible writer show that you will be dead or in the grave until that time. Now many Christians think you will be transferred to a burning hell or heaven when you die from most versions of Christian doctrine. I don't read that in the book.

At the resurrection and 1000 year reign of Christ all people will be like angels in heaven according to the scriptures as I read it.

In other words you would be like Monks and Nuns and never have sex and walk around naked as a J-Bird here on earth.

Unlike Adam and Eve I think God will kill you on the spot if you did masturbate as he did Onan? Genesis 38:9

Remember that they all believe in Yahweh and still they sinned and many where brutally killed.

Many believe that the Angels in heaven had no gender according to their interpretation of the bible. To find the gaps with my own thinking about this, I think the bible writer thought all angels are male. You will notice when angels appeared that they are always men. Angels always lusted for women also.

Mat 22:30
"For in the resurrection they neither marry, nor are given in marriage, but are as the angels of God in heaven." Note that it does not say they are in heaven, rather says as in heaven and points out you will have no beard to stroke accept Yahweh.

My point is even during the 1000 year reign of Christ most of the Christians will not make it. I'm taking that model from the example of the flood, Armageddon and what happens near 1000 yr reign according to the bible writer Chrisitans will be tested again.

How many will survive? The bible writer gives a clue.

"But small is the gate and narrow the road that leads to life, and only a few find it."
Mat 7:14

Since: Feb 14

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#123473 Feb 6, 2014
spaceship wrote:
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Many Christians like Yaa believe you will be sent to heaven as soon as you die. I don't see the bible writer shows that for the majority. It talks about a thousand year reign on earth. So the intent of the bible writer show that you will be dead or in the grave until that time. Now many Christians think you will be transferred to a burning hell or heaven when you die from most versions of Christian doctrine. I don't read that in the book.
At the resurrection and 1000 year reign of Christ all people will be like angels in heaven according to the scriptures as I read it.
In other words you would be like Monks and Nuns and never have sex and walk around naked as a J-Bird here on earth.
Unlike Adam and Eve I think God will kill you on the spot if you did masturbate as he did Onan? Genesis 38:9
Remember that they all believe in Yahweh and still they sinned and many where brutally killed.
Many believe that the Angels in heaven had no gender according to their interpretation of the bible. To find the gaps with my own thinking about this, I think the bible writer thought all angels are male. You will notice when angels appeared that they are always men. Angels always lusted for women also.
Mat 22:30
"For in the resurrection they neither marry, nor are given in marriage, but are as the angels of God in heaven." Note that it does not say they are in heaven, rather says as in heaven and points out you will have no beard to stroke accept Yahweh.
My point is even during the 1000 year reign of Christ most of the Christians will not make it. I'm taking that model from the example of the flood, Armageddon and what happens near 1000 yr reign according to the bible writer Chrisitans will be tested again.
How many will survive? The bible writer gives a clue.
"But small is the gate and narrow the road that leads to life, and only a few find it."
Mat 7:14
So you're presuming i'm a christian? don't catagorize me! you don't know me so don't make presumptions...
spaceship

Rancho Cordova, CA

#123474 Feb 6, 2014
pusherman_ wrote:
<quoted text> So you're presuming i'm a christian? don't catagorize me! you don't know me so don't make presumptions...
No ,just making an observation about the bible writer, just as you been discussing your observations about the bible. Why are you ashamed to be labeled a Christian? I do know what the bible says about one being ashamed to be associated with Jesus. Good luck on your journey,

Since: Feb 14

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#123475 Feb 6, 2014
spaceship wrote:
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No ,just making an observation about the bible writer, just as you been discussing your observations about the bible. Why are you ashamed to be labeled a Christian? I do know what the bible says about one being ashamed to be associated with Jesus. Good luck on your journey,
HaHa, IF i was a christian, i would have no problem admitting it. Never was ashamed of anything, if i was christian, i wouldn't be of that either. Where did you follow me from? you have said 2 things i said on other threads.. you wouldn't known it unless you were there...If you wanna talk and get to know me, just say so:) Presuming you're a woman of course.
spaceship

Rancho Cordova, CA

#123476 Feb 6, 2014
pusherman_ wrote:
<quoted text> HaHa, IF i was a christian, i would have no problem admitting it. Never was ashamed of anything, if i was christian, i wouldn't be of that either. Where did you follow me from? you have said 2 things i said on other threads.. you wouldn't known it unless you were there...If you wanna talk and get to know me, just say so:) Presuming you're a woman of course.
No and No. What things are you talking about? I don't know you from zip. This is a discussion or debate thread, you do not have to respond to my comments. I know that these discussions or debates can be upsetting to some and is not for anyone. I will put you on my ignore list.

Since: Feb 14

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#123477 Feb 6, 2014
spaceship wrote:
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No and No. What things are you talking about? I don't know you from zip. This is a discussion or debate thread, you do not have to respond to my comments. I know that these discussions or debates can be upsetting to some and is not for anyone. I will put you on my ignore list.
well for one, the jim jones, which i ask you about, and the good luck on your journey, but i didn't mean any harm but hey, ignore away, ain't no skin off my teeth, i could care less..

Since: Sep 13

United States of America

#123478 Feb 6, 2014
pusherman_ wrote:
<quoted text> Uh, yes! I know that. I don't agree at all that, that is the reason they declared them Gnostic or Heretical, The church wanted total control so they could put man into bondage. Jesus taught God was within us all and needed no "Doctrine", The followers of Christ, wouldn't bow down to them, so of course they were meeting in secret, wouldn't you? gd@mn, they was bb'qn them! split a piece of wood, you will find me, lift a rock, i am there.. He wasn't confined to just 4 walls, as the church wanted them to believe, they were dictators " Den Of Vipers"
This is where we differ. I don't think they were being tortured or bb'qd as you say. I don't think they were being hunted down and killed at all during the first 100 years. and I don't think they were forced underground because of it. If all you say were true, then how did they gather such a following and enlist new members if they were so scared and hiding in secrecy. In order to go from a small group to a predominant sect, there had to be some campaigning going on.... furthermore from first century AD, the roman empire considered the Christian movement as part of Judaism, and because they were considered part of Judaism, Christianity was considered to be protected by the legal status of Jewish tradition within the Roman Empire.

If they were forced underground and in secrecy, how did they write this famous book, and how did they become so significant? in 300 years, they went from a small group of 30 - 50 members to the prevalent religion and endorsed by the emperor Constantine.

Since: Sep 13

United States of America

#123479 Feb 6, 2014
pusherman_ wrote:
<quoted text> Do you know who the first scientist to try and apply science to the Bible was? I will give you a hint, He was a believer in the book..
Sir Isaac Newton

Since: Sep 13

United States of America

#123480 Feb 6, 2014
He wasn't the first, but the most known

“Justice Sweet”

Since: Jan 14

Mount Vernon

#123481 Feb 6, 2014
Curious wrote:
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Now,now ,take a chill pill . How quickly we forget . I am here to enlighten those who so desire.
Obviously you are not a member of that group , made very clear by your Atheist Faith.
If all your uncles are still alive you should not have claimed otherwise.
Shame on you.
Ill let you keep your pills, you need them. I don't claim any cult faith, never have..
Known Fact

Orlando, FL

#123482 Feb 6, 2014
Jesus always spoke the truth whether it was popular or not. He thus provided an example that we should follow if we want to please God.
Tommy

London, KY

#123485 Feb 6, 2014
Forget it!.

Since: Feb 14

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#123486 Feb 6, 2014
stuck in a lodi wrote:
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This is where we differ. I don't think they were being tortured or bb'qd as you say. I don't think they were being hunted down and killed at all during the first 100 years. and I don't think they were forced underground because of it. If all you say were true, then how did they gather such a following and enlist new members if they were so scared and hiding in secrecy. In order to go from a small group to a predominant sect, there had to be some campaigning going on.... furthermore from first century AD, the roman empire considered the Christian movement as part of Judaism, and because they were considered part of Judaism, Christianity was considered to be protected by the legal status of Jewish tradition within the Roman Empire.
If they were forced underground and in secrecy, how did they write this famous book, and how did they become so significant? in 300 years, they went from a small group of 30 - 50 members to the prevalent religion and endorsed by the emperor Constantine.
Let me start by saying, what up! Ok, we are talking about After the Romans adopted Christianity right? Constantine adopted the religion, this is a guesstamation, around 314-316AD. The Roman Catholic Church are the ones that declared them Heretics and Gnostic, not before as you're saying, The Church canonized certain Gospels and some they didn't. The Church monks, of that time, wrote a lot of what you know today of sin,(The Seven Deadly Sins) and others were written during this time. They rewrote into their Doctrine, the way it was gonna be and if you didn't abide by it, you were labeled as Heretic, Gnostic, and to even be caught or talking about anything other than what they thought was right, you were burnt at the stake as such.(Political) That alone would've drove the true followers of Christ underground for fear of being burnt at the stake. A lot of them didn't adhere to the Churches way of thinking, Jesus preached against "religion" calling them a "Den Of Vipers" in his sermons. The true followers new that one didn't need organized religion to be saved, not to say that fellowship in his name isn't good, one can fellowship anywhere. The Church pounced on it for Greed and control. Pilate recognized it in his time, he released a murderer(Evil) and crucified the innocent(Good) All to please the mass of people that wanted Jesus crucified.(Political) He saw it as a favor to secure his future and Romes, which it did,(Political) nothing religious about the Churches indoctrination of members, it was basically, our way or get BB'QED!! So yeah, the Church drove them underground, I'd say most of the writings found buried today are a result of that. Old Rome during the time of Jesus worked hand n hand with the Jews, but the Church changed that, all political!! My opinion..

Since: Feb 14

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#123487 Feb 6, 2014
SevenTee wrote:
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I am not saying anyone is dumb, I am saying you don't understand my point.
Do you really think people would not take notice of someone building a gigantic Arc on dry land?
The Bible says people mocked him, but it wasn't because of a 3 foot cubit(i know) so what was the point of saying that? I was only making an observation of your post and thought it was a pissy of you to get smart@$$ed with me, it didn't help you any.. Good luck on your journey..

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