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Bible study rules for public schools proposed

There are 167629 comments on the The Courier-Journal story from Feb 10, 2010, titled Bible study rules for public schools proposed. In it, The Courier-Journal reports that:

FRANKFORT, Ky. - The state would create rules for teaching about the Bible in public high schools under a bill filed Monday by three Democratic senators.

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“Breaking the spell ”

Since: Dec 10

of the puppet master

#122574 Jan 30, 2014
The_Box wrote:
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No, you don't. You thought the blogger WAS an atheist. The entire point of the post was that consent is the best metric for determining what sexual acts are acceptable.
Animals and corpses can't consent.
You see, when you base ethics on reason, you can come to useful conclusions. When you base ethics on the arbitrary declarations of a religious book, you can come to a lot of garbage because everything in there is just what some guy wanted to be true.
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I was laughing because you were so oblivious to the nature of the quote. You thought it was serious: that the atheist was actually proposing that people should be able to have sex with lions, tigers, and bears, and thus the post was evidence that atheists approve of bestiality.
I was laughing...at you.
Curious has no barometer of what is real and what is not. He was caught just weeks ago posting a satire article, then he claimed it was a prank on us and he knew it all along. He is a pathological liar, yet claims atheists have no morality. He thinks all atheists follow everything other atheists say, as if they were gods. Well I suppose he just cannot understand the reason we oppose the idea of gods, seeing as how this is the reason. No one person knows all, or has the corner on morality.

“Breaking the spell ”

Since: Dec 10

of the puppet master

#122575 Jan 30, 2014
Curious wrote:
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Dukett , you ,krak and Lodi alias the box and the other atheists on this website belong to the Atheist Faith and follow the dictates of your High priests and their debauchery.
I hasve yet to see where any of you have denounced the likes of Sam Harris , Peter singer , Hitchen , Dawkins and Krauss for their condoning of their perverted and deviant beliefs.
You are their disciples who continue to try and deconvert poor unsuspecting souls into a life style that invites suicide and depression.
Stak Rosch was right when he stated that Atheists did not want to hear about the problems that those whom you deconvert are faced with.
It is small wonder that an overwheliming majority of Americans place atheists on the same level as rapists , after all ,what do you call one who sexually abuses animals and corpses without their consent?
Atheists have no high priests. But that does not stop you from making the claim, as you are a pathological liar.
What am I to denounce? I believe no quotes you post, as I have proved time and time again, you misquote. So I have no idea if any quotes you ever post are of truth. And I am not going to look ever damn quote you post. I condemn bestiality and necrophilia. If anyone condones it, I condemn them for doing so.
Now try not to keep crying wolf, so we can actually communicate. It is why lying is bad.

“Breaking the spell ”

Since: Dec 10

of the puppet master

#122576 Jan 30, 2014
Curious wrote:
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Dukett , you ,krak and Lodi alias the box and the other atheists on this website belong to the Atheist Faith and follow the dictates of your High priests and their debauchery.
?
So tell me, just when I have I followed the debauchery in which you claim?
The fact you cannot, just proves again you are lying for Jesus.

“Breaking the spell ”

Since: Dec 10

of the puppet master

#122577 Jan 30, 2014
The_Box wrote:
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Atheism is not a faith, and it has no priests. You know this.
How sad that you have no actual ammunition to attack any of us with, so you must resort to trying to associate us with random other atheists.
Hey Curious, the Inquisition was made of Christians. I guess you love torture! Hey Curious, the people of Salem who burned women alive were Christians. I guess you love burning innocent women alive! See how stupid this sounds?
The critical difference is, he does follow a high priest, verbatim, and it is the same one as those who committed these atrocities.
Curious

Winter Garden, FL

#122578 Jan 30, 2014
stuck in a lodi wrote:
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Lets break this down shall we...... NEARLY 46% of the U.S. suffer some form of mental disabilities now combat that with the number of atheist in the U.S. which is around 9%.
Considering those facts, it stands to reason that the atheist are not the majority of people suffering from these problems. You're clueless.
In your deluded mind you only perceive atheist to have mental problems. This is typical thinking for such as yourself.
Atheism and Mental and Physical Health Edit Talk0 33,751PAGES ON
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In regards to atheism and mental and physical health, there is considerable amount of scientific evidence that suggest that theism is more conducive to mental and physical health than atheism.[1][2] The prestigious Mayo Clinic reported the following on December 11, 2001:

“ In an article also published in this issue of Mayo Clinic Proceedings, Mayo Clinic researchers reviewed published studies, meta-analyses, systematic reviews and subject reviews that examined the association between religious involvement and spirituality and physical health, mental health, health-related quality of life and other health outcomes.
The authors report a majority of the nearly 350 studies of physical health and 850 studies of mental health that have used religious and spiritual variables have found that religious involvement and spirituality are associated with better health outcomes.[3]

”
In regards to data that relates to mental health and atheism, in December of 2003, the University of Warwick reported the following:

“ Dr. Stephen Joseph, from the University of Warwick, said: "Religious people seem to have a greater purpose in life, which is why they are happier. Looking at the research evidence, it seems that those who celebrate the Christian meaning of Christmas are on the whole likely to be happier.[4]”
Duke University has established the Center for Spirituality, Theology and Health.[5] The Duke University Center for Spirituality, Theology and Health is based in the Center for Aging at Duke and gives opportunities for scholarly trans-disciplinary conversation and the development of collaborative research projects.[6] In regards to the atheism and mental and physical health, the center offers many studies which suggest that theism is more beneficial than atheism.[7]

The Christian group Teen Challenge reported the following:

“ Teen Challenge claims of a 70% cure rate for the drug addicts graduating from their program attracted the attention of the U.S. Federal Government in 1973. Most secular drug rehabilitation programs only experienced a cure rate of 1-15% of their graduates. The National Institute on Drug Abuse (NIDA), part of the U.S. Department of Health, Education, and Welfare, funded the first year of this study to evaluate the long term results of the Teen Challenge program.[8]”
Teen Challenge has a number of studies that indicate the high effectiveness of their drug treatment program compared to other programs.[9]
Curious

Winter Garden, FL

#122579 Jan 30, 2014
Currently, there is an ongoing debate regarding whether atheism was a causal factor for Friedrich Nietzsche's insanity or whether it was caused strictly by disease.[10][11][12][13][14] An article published on the Hong Kong Baptist University website offers the following regarding the cause of Friedrich Nietzsche's insanity:

“ Trying to explain what caused his insanity can only be a matter of speculation. Some people believe it was the result of a physical illness. Others interpret his suffering as that of a true prophet, almost as if he were accepting the punishment on behalf of those who could not see mankind's tendency towards self-destruction so clearly. Still others regard his final fate as a natural outcome of his philosophical outlook.[15]”
The Russian-born psychoanalyst and writer Lou Andreas-Salomι, who had a brief and tempestuous affair with Nietzsche, believed that Nietzsche's philosophy can be viewed as a reflection of his psychology and that his madness was the result of his philosophizing.[16] In addition, the French historian Renι Girard asserted that Nietzsche's philosophy led to his insanity.[17]

Atheism and SuicideEdit
There are studies which indicate that atheism is a causal factor for suicides.

Sigmund Freud's View of Religion Discredited Edit
Psychologist Sigmund Freud was a proponent of atheism who argued that theism was detrimental to mental health.[18] Oxford Professor Alister McGrath, author of the book The Twilight of Atheism, stated the following regarding Freud:

“ One of the most important criticisms that Sigmund Freud directed against religion was that it encourages unhealthy and dysfunctional outlooks on life. Having dismissed religion as an illusion, Freud went on to argue that it is a negative factor in personal development. At times, Freud's influence has been such that the elimination of a person's religious beliefs has been seen as a precondition for mental health.
Freud is now a fallen idol, the fall having been all the heavier for its postponement. There is now growing awareness of the importance of spirituality in health care, both as a positive factor in relation to well-being and as an issue to which patients have a right. The "Spirituality and Healing in Medicine" conference sponsored by Harvard Medical School in 1998 brought reports that 86 percent of Americans as a whole, 99 percent of family physicians, and 94 percent of HMO professionals believe that prayer, meditation, and other spiritual and religious practices exercise a major positive role within the healing process.[19]

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Curious

Winter Garden, FL

#122580 Jan 30, 2014
stuck in a lodi wrote:
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Lets break this down shall we...... NEARLY 46% of the U.S. suffer some form of mental disabilities now combat that with the number of atheist in the U.S. which is around 9%.
Considering those facts, it stands to reason that the atheist are not the majority of people suffering from these problems. You're clueless.
In your deluded mind you only perceive atheist to have mental problems. This is typical thinking for such as yourself.
In regards to atheism and suicide, although there are recent studies relating to atheism being a causal factor for suicide in some individuals, an early proponent of atheism being a causal factor for suicide in some individuals was the Reverend Dr. Robert S. MacArthur.[1][2][3]
In 1894, the New York Times stated the following in relation to atheism and suicide:
“ Dr. Martin urged that a great cause of suicide was atheism. It was, he said, a remarkable fact that where atheism prevailed most, there suicides were most numerous. In Paris, a recent census showed one suicide to every 2,700 of the population. After the publication of Paine's "Age of Reason" suicides increased.[4]”
The same New York Times article quotes the Reverend Dr. MacArthur describing suicide in the following manner:
“ It is mean and not manly; it is dastardly and not daring. A man who involves his innocent wife and children in financial disaster and disgrace and takes his life and leaves them to bear the burden he was unwilling to bear, is a coward.[5]”
In 2004, the American Journal of Psychiatry reported the following:
“ Religiously unaffiliated subjects had significantly more lifetime suicide attempts and more first-degree relatives who committed suicide than subjects who endorsed a religious affiliation. Unaffiliated subjects were younger, less often married, less often had children, and had less contact with family members. Furthermore, subjects with no religious affiliation perceived fewer reasons for living, particularly fewer moral objections to suicide. In terms of clinical characteristics, religiously unaffiliated subjects had more lifetime impulsivity, aggression, and past substance use disorder. No differences in the level of subjective and objective depression, hopelessness, or stressful life events were found.[6]”
The website Adherents.com reported the following in respect to atheism and suicide:
“ Pitzer College sociologist Phil Zuckerman compiled country-by-country survey, polling and census numbers relating to atheism, agnosticism, disbelief in God and people who state they are non-religious or have no religious preference. These data were published in the chapter titled "Atheism: Contemporary Rates and Patterns" in The Cambridge Companion to Atheism, ed. by Michael Martin, Cambridge University Press: Cambridge, UK (2005). In examining various indicators of societal health, Zuckerman concludes about suicide:
Curious

Winter Garden, FL

#122581 Jan 30, 2014
"Concerning suicide rates, this is the one indicator of societal health in which religious nations fare much better than secular nations. According to the 2003 World Health Organization's report on international male suicides rates (which compared 100 countries), of the top ten nations with the highest male suicide rates, all but one (Sri Lanka) are strongly irreligious nations with high levels of atheism. It is interesting to note, however, that of the top remaining nine nations leading the world in male suicide rates, all are former Soviet/Communist nations, such as Belarus, Ukraine, and Latvia. Of the bottom ten nations with the lowest male suicide rates, all are highly religious nations with statistically insignificant levels of organic atheism."[7]
”
Australian online opinion writer and lecturer in ethics and philosophy at several Melbourne theological colleges, Bill Muehlenberg, in his essay The Unbearable Heaviness of Being (In a World Without God) states the following:
“ Announcing, and believing, that God is dead has consequences. And it is we who suffer the most for it. We cannot bear the whole universe on our shoulders. We were not meant to. We must let God be God. Only then can men be men. Only then can we find the way forward to be possible, and the burdens not insurmountable.[8]
Curious

Winter Garden, FL

#122582 Jan 30, 2014
Mike Duquette wrote:
<quoted text>Atheists have no high priests. But that does not stop you from making the claim, as you are a pathological liar.
What am I to denounce? I believe no quotes you post, as I have proved time and time again, you misquote. So I have no idea if any quotes you ever post are of truth. And I am not going to look ever damn quote you post. I condemn bestiality and necrophilia. If anyone condones it, I condemn them for doing so.
Now try not to keep crying wolf, so we can actually communicate. It is why lying is bad.
Welllllllllllll, After much prodding , you finally come out against the views espoused by 3 of the 4 horsemen of Atheism / evolutionists....
Good for you........
All you gotta do is google for the opinions of the aforementiond Atheist/ Evolutionists regarding the topic being discussed ...
The article you quoted , which I knew was a satire , since it so stated , and you refuse to acknowledge to suit your needs is another of your smokescreens.
The idiot The Box makes another false claim when it was quite obvious that the poster who suggested that the only animals with which beastiality should be permitted were grown Bears ,lions ,tiger crocodiles and alligators since they would have the means to give their consent.
It is obvious what the blogger meant ,
If The Box or you failed to get the meaning of what was intended , then I suggest that you or the Box try to get it on with any of the forementionrd mbeats...
They will perform what is called " a violent circumcision on the perpetrator" and you would no longer have any need for your viagra prescription , if you catch my drift.....
I don't want to be more descriptive than that , the topix mod may ban me , and I may end up in the junk pile with the likes of SS SP UMM Yiago and other malcreants....
YIKESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS
spaceship

Rancho Cordova, CA

#122583 Jan 30, 2014
Curious wrote:
<quoted text>
Very uplifting "Apostle Amber" , good post , really enjoyed it .....
Our God reigns and Christ is Lord
You and Apostle Amber should hook up and mumble at the ceiling fans together at a mall, while Know Fact reads Jeremiah 8 and shakes his scary chicken stick at both of you.

Since: Dec 11

Location hidden

#122584 Jan 30, 2014
Curious wrote:
The idiot The Box makes another false claim when it was quite obvious that the poster who suggested that the only animals with which beastiality should be permitted were grown Bears ,lions ,tiger crocodiles and alligators since they would have the means to give their consent.
Yes, it is obvious what the writer meant. Unfortunately, you were too dumb to pick up on it, that's why you had to backtrack and reverse what you said in your first post about it.

“See how you are?”

Since: Jul 12

Earth

#122585 Jan 30, 2014
Curious wrote:
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Well , I am glad to see you take a stand against those types of immoral behaviour.
The fact is that those who are supporting that type of behaviour are Atheist / Evolutionists.
Peter Singer , Chris Hitchens , Lawrence Krauss , Sam Harris and Richard Dawkins
I do not know if they represent the views of a majority of Atheists or not .
What I do know is that they are considered to represent the Atheist/Evolution movement.
and that no Atheist/ Evolutionist has stepped up and publicly denounced that type of behaviour as you have done....
Let me know about this chronic vitriol and wanton dishonesty smokescreen you threw up.......
I've never taken a stand in favor of immoral behavior. You might have noticed that had you been more observant. I thought it was obvious, since I (and others) have often called you on it. Perhaps that was hard to notice through that "smokescreen" of willful ignorance and self deception you "lovingly" tend.
Curious

Winter Garden, FL

#122586 Jan 30, 2014
spaceship wrote:
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You and Apostle Amber should hook up and mumble at the ceiling fans together at a mall, while Know Fact reads Jeremiah 8 and shakes his scary chicken stick at both of you.
You , krak and spaceship should join The marquis desade , one of your renowned fellow atheists , at one of his parties , he will feed you and bleed you ,much to your liking.
he will also provide you with an ample supply of poopsicles.
Bring a putty knife , as he will want to scrape the fudge off your shorts as the supply of poopsicles diminishes..........
wondering

Dallas, TX

#122587 Jan 30, 2014
I believe the Bible should be brought back in schools. I want my children to know their Bible. If they teach evolution they should teach the Bible.

Since: Dec 11

Location hidden

#122588 Jan 30, 2014
wondering wrote:
I believe the Bible should be brought back in schools. I want my children to know their Bible.
Then teach it to them at home.
wondering wrote:
If they teach evolution they should teach the Bible.
This doesn't make any sense.

You might as well say "They teach math, they should teach the Koran" or "They teach English, they should teach Hinduism".
spaceship

Rancho Cordova, CA

#122589 Jan 30, 2014
Curious wrote:
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You , krak and spaceship should join The marquis desade , one of your renowned fellow atheists , at one of his parties , he will feed you and bleed you ,much to your liking.
he will also provide you with an ample supply of poopsicles.
Bring a putty knife , as he will want to scrape the fudge off your shorts as the supply of poopsicles diminishes..........
Does Apostle Amber loves dirty talking Christians like yourself, I bet she does and reads all your dirty talking posts without admonishing you for your sins. What a pair you would make.

“Breaking the spell ”

Since: Dec 10

of the puppet master

#122590 Jan 30, 2014
SistaNoneYa wrote:
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Bullchit. You just don't happen to like that particular book.
This is AMERICA Duquette, not commieTIC sharia law book banning other places
Did I ever propose what you claim? Nope, and that makes you a liar. Now keep diverting as you support the ones who see the bible verbatim and long for the day when the likes of me are killed by Jesus and his people. I see you as no different than the supporters of Hitler.

“Breaking the spell ”

Since: Dec 10

of the puppet master

#122591 Jan 30, 2014
SistaNoneYa wrote:
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Hmm..well that's not right.
Sadly you cannot articulate what you feel is not right about it. Nice diversion.

“Breaking the spell ”

Since: Dec 10

of the puppet master

#122592 Jan 30, 2014
SistaNoneYa wrote:
<quoted text>
Nope, not going there.
Of course not, because you cannot answer a question directly. You can only divert because you lack substance.
spaceship

Rancho Cordova, CA

#122593 Jan 30, 2014
SevenTee wrote:
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Forget about it OK, I have spend years and years studying the Bible. You are a mental midget on this subject. You may be an expert on the religion of "secular humanist progrssive atheism" or whatever you call your people these days, but you don't know squat about The Holy Bible.
What good did it do you? You could not hold a candle to a Jewish Scholar. You should quit your bragging about celebrating Christmas on the 25 of dec which everyone known for centuries is a pagan celebration.

Jewish scholars mock your belief that abortion is murder. You are considered a heretic and a believer in a pagan doctrines. You can kiss the Jewish people ass all you want and still be consider nothing but a gentile dog .

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