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Bible study rules for public schools proposed

There are 163753 comments on the The Courier-Journal story from Feb 10, 2010, titled Bible study rules for public schools proposed. In it, The Courier-Journal reports that:

FRANKFORT, Ky. - The state would create rules for teaching about the Bible in public high schools under a bill filed Monday by three Democratic senators.

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“Breaking the spell ”

Since: Dec 10

of the puppet master

#121806 Jan 21, 2014
Known Fact wrote:
Is evolution really scientific?
The “scientific method” is as follows: Observe what happens; based on those observations, form a theory as to what may be true; test the theory by further observations and by experiments; and watch to see if the predictions based on the theory are fulfilled. Is this the method followed by those who believe in and teach evolution?
Astronomer Robert Jastrow says:“To their chagrin [scientists] have no clear-cut answer, because chemists have never succeeded in reproducing nature’s experiments on the creation of life out of nonliving matter. Scientists do not know how that happened.”—The Enchanted Loom: Mind in the Universe (New York, 1981), p. 19.
Evolutionist Loren Eiseley acknowledged:“After having chided the theologian for his reliance on myth and miracle, science found itself in the unenviable position of having to create a mythology of its own: namely, the assumption that what, after long effort, could not be proved to take place today had, in truth, taken place in the primeval past.”—The Immense Journey (New York, 1957), p. 199.
According to New Scientist:“An increasing number of scientists, most particularly a growing number of evolutionists ... argue that Darwinian evolutionary theory is no genuine scientific theory at all.... Many of the critics have the highest intellectual credentials.”—June 25, 1981, p. 828.
Physicist H. S. Lipson said:“The only acceptable explanation is creation. I know that this is anathema to physicists, as indeed it is to me, but we must not reject a theory that we do not like if the experimental evidence supports it.”—Physics Bulletin, 1980, Vol. 31, p. 138.
Wow, it amazes me how lame this propaganda is. I would at least expect it to be slightly difficult to refute, but the blatant errors are glaring.
First, one does not come up with a theory, they come up with a hypothesis. Any scientist would not have written this crap. Clearly it is someone alien to science.
Second, the astronomer obviously has no idea what the theory of evolution covers. Because what his grief is, has nothing to do with evolution. He is arguing abiogenesis.
Seeing as how evolution and astronomy have nothing to do with each other, I can see why he could be so ignorant. Do you go to the chiropractor to get your teeth fixed?

Not that I think you will even respond, much less debate this. Now stay in that delusion your propaganda is perfect, or even accurate at all.

“Breaking the spell ”

Since: Dec 10

of the puppet master

#121807 Jan 21, 2014
SistaNoneYa wrote:
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You wouldn't be repeating it, let alone contemplating what it meant, if I hadn't >already< written it.
OR, you'd've probably had it all twisted to something SOOOO ignorant (from slurping the same up) until it was proven OTHERwise.
Some stuff can not just be "fabricated" (no matter what idiot ,dolt like, ignotoads spew).
You do comprehend that, right?
Why bother? No time to play games with immature jack asses.

“Breaking the spell ”

Since: Dec 10

of the puppet master

#121808 Jan 21, 2014
SistaNoneYa wrote:
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Actually, I just had more important things to tend to...than to brainlessly waste time copying and pasting that of which there is ">"already" <" TONS written about!!
Liar.

“Breaking the spell ”

Since: Dec 10

of the puppet master

#121809 Jan 21, 2014
SistaNoneYa wrote:
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Boring...repetitive and redundant even!
(unless you're a baboon!)
You mean like repeating "humans are not comprised of primates"?
At least you are consistent about being a hypocrite. What a joke.

“Breaking the spell ”

Since: Dec 10

of the puppet master

#121810 Jan 21, 2014
SistaNoneYa wrote:
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(Absolutely...that's why I just scrolled right on by it all!)
Liar

“Breaking the spell ”

Since: Dec 10

of the puppet master

#121811 Jan 21, 2014
SistaNoneYa wrote:
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Are you always that abusive towards people you do not know?
I'll send you my bill for your mouth whipping.
Says the giant hypocrite who writes paragraph long abusive insults, daily.
unbecoming

United States

#121812 Jan 21, 2014
they will always leave a lot unanswered.

“Breaking the spell ”

Since: Dec 10

of the puppet master

#121813 Jan 21, 2014
SistaNoneYa wrote:
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Not my fault ignorant is always trying to get in my face.
Desperate is as desperate does.
Pointless dribble.

“Breaking the spell ”

Since: Dec 10

of the puppet master

#121814 Jan 21, 2014
Known Fact wrote:
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Evidently! I will post it again just for your benefit:
JOHN 8:31,32
31 And so Jesus went on to say to the Jews that had believed him:“If YOU remain in my word, YOU are really my disciples, 32 and YOU will know the truth, and the truth will set YOU free.”
Good News
Jesus said at Matthew 24:14 And this good news of the kingdom will be preached in all the inhabited earth for a witness to all the nations; and then the end will come.
This preaching work gives ever one an opportunity to decide if they want God's Kingdom to rule the earth or not. Jesus taught us to pray for God's kingdom to come and for God's will to be done on earth as it is in heaven.-Matthew 6:9,10
God's kingdom will rule the earth whether you want it or not.-Daniel 2:44
What will happen to the opposers who do not want it?
Dead bodies of the WICKED Jeremiah 25:31-38
“‘A noise will certainly come clear to the farthest part of the earth, for there is a controversy that Jehovah has with the nations. He must personally put himself in judgment with all flesh. As regards the WICKED ones, he must give them to the sword,’ is the utterance of Jehovah ; “This is what Jehovah of armies has said,‘Look! A calamity is going forth from nation to nation, and a great tempest itself will be roused up from the remotest parts of the earth; And those slain by Jehovah will certainly come to be in that day from one end of the earth clear to the other end of the earth. They will not be bewailed, neither will they be gathered up or be buried. As manure on the surface of the ground they will become.’
Howl, YOU shepherds, and cry out! And wallow about, YOU majestic ones of the flock, because YOUR days for slaughtering and for YOUR scatterings have been fulfilled, and YOU must fall like a desirable vessel! And a place to flee to has perished from the shepherds, and a means of escape from the majestic ones of the flock. Listen! The outcry of the shepherds, and the howling of the majestic ones of the flock, for Jehovah is despoiling their pasturage. And the peaceful abiding places have been rendered lifeless because of the burning anger of Jehovah. He has left his covert just like a maned young lion, for their land has become an object of astonishment because of the maltreating sword and because of his burning anger.”
Some may call this scare tactics but it is something that must be done to make the earth a peaceful place to live. Psalms 37:10,11 And just a little while longer, and the wicked one will be no more;And you will certainly give attention to his place, and he will not be; But the meek ones themselves will possess the earth,
And they will indeed find their exquisite delight in the abundance of peace.
What is required to live forever? Jehovah's Witnesses are eager to help you learn the requirements. One is to "Turn away from what is bad and do what is good, and so reside forever.
For Jehovah is a lover of justice,
And he will not leave his loyal ones.
To time indefinite they will certainly be guarded;
But as for the offspring of the wicked ones, they will indeed be cut off.
The righteous themselves will possess the earth,
And they will reside forever upon it.- Psalms 37: 27-29
If I want a bunch of doom and gloom, genocidal rationalizations, I could just read the history of Hitler.

“Breaking the spell ”

Since: Dec 10

of the puppet master

#121815 Jan 21, 2014
Known Fact wrote:
For the deist:
But the Creator did not leave man without a guide. Why should he discriminate against his highest earthly creation? He endowed all the lower animals with infallible instincts to guide them, did he not? Certainly, then, he would also provide an infallible guide for man, and that he did in his Word, the Bible. The very fact that man has the qualities of love, wisdom and justice argues that God would have the same, and, having the same, he would not create man with an inquiring and reasoning mind and then not satisfy that mind with the answers that it needed for its own contentment and happiness. Man does not need to know the length of a light-year to be happy, but he does need to know his purpose of existence, where he came from and what his destiny is. And only a revelation can give him this information, which the Bible does.
So god gave the lower animals infallible instincts, but not man? Where did you get this idea?

“Breaking the spell ”

Since: Dec 10

of the puppet master

#121816 Jan 21, 2014
Curious wrote:
Atheist leaders and their moral codes;
1)Madilyn O'hair interview with Playboy Magazine
I think young people should be able to have their first sexual love affair whenever they feel like it. In the case of most girls, this would be around 13 or 14; with most boys, around 15 or 16.
MURRAY: They should be taught about sex, sex hygiene and contraceptive methods starting in the sixth grade, and whenever they want to try it, they should be allowed to go at it without supervision or restriction -- in their parents' bedroom, on the grass in a park, in a motel; it doesn't matter, as long as the setting is private and pleasant. If we did all this, our kids would grow up into happier, healthier human beings. But we won't, of course. It would make too much sense.
2)AYN RAND (Philosopher)
“ To live for his own sake means that the achievement of his own happiness is man’s highest moral purpose.”
Rand, Ayn, The Virtue of Selfishness. New York: Signet Books, 1964, 27.
"She was also an atheist, and promoted ethical egoism...while condemning altruism
3)FRIEDRICH NIETZSCHE (Philosopher)
"He believed that the values of self-sacrifice inherent in Christianity undermined the cultural development; that democracy and socialism, which treated all people equally, stifled individual creativity and genius; and that universal suffrage gave power to the masses. Therefore, it was up to exceptional individuals to take leadership. He outlined his plan for a new generation of “supermen” who “were free from sentimental inhibitions and prepared …to use violence in the building of a new, nobler world.”(Hitler was one of his most committed followers).
4)BARON D'HOLBACH (Author/Philosopher)
Denying the existence of a deity, and refusing to admit as evidence all a priori arguments, d'Holbach saw in the universe nothing save matter in motion. In this, he was influenced by John Toland. The foundation of morality is happiness: "It would be useless and almost unjust to insist upon a man's being virtuous if he cannot be so without being unhappy. So long as vice renders him happy, he should love vice." This theory of morality can be seen as a precursor to utilitarianism
5)BARON DE SADE (Philosopher)
(18th Century French Philosopher who epitomizes the life style of many who abandon God and conceive their own immoral code. The word "Sadism" originates in this man)
"French philosopher Donatien Aldonse Louis de Sade argued, often eloquently, for the rejection of faith and religion and embrace of the self and its desires..."
All universal moral principles are idle fantasies.
"It was de Sade's unusual sexual proclivities that made him the man who lent his name to the term 'sadism'. It was his writings --'Justine','120 Days of Sodom','Lusts of the Libertines', and others -- which branded him an arch pornographer. The lion's share of these writings involve varying combinations of dubious sexual activities, violence, and fecal matter."Coprophagia'
After a life of sodomizing servant girls with crucifixes and eating feces off of sacrament wafers, de Sade died in a madhouse
6)Timothy O'leary ,Atheist Turn on ,tune in and dropout, Advocated use of mind altering drugs.
7)Professor Peter Singer , Supports beastiality and infanticide.
Sex with your pets is readily acceptable , whether male or female.
8) Chris Hitchens AC/DC
Bisexual and defends beastiality.
Other defenders of beastiality and infanticide , Sam Harris ,Richard Dawkins.....
So when you claimed yesterday of how you were just here to tell of your beliefs, thee are the beliefs you were speaking of?

Since: Apr 08

Cambridge, UK

#121817 Jan 21, 2014
Known Fact wrote:
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Does the Bible allow for the idea that God used evolution to produce the various kinds of living things?
Genesis 1:11, 12 says that grass and trees were made to produce each “according to its kind.” Verses 21, 24, 25 add that God created sea creatures, flying creatures and land animals, each “according to its kind.” There is no allowance here for one basic kind to evolve or change into another.
Regarding man, Genesis 1:26 reports that God said:“Let us make man in our image, according to our likeness.” So he was to have godlike qualities, not traits that were simply a development of those of a beast. Genesis 2:7 adds:“Jehovah God proceeded to form the man [not out of some preexisting life form but] out of dust from the ground and to blow into his nostrils the breath of life.” There is no hint of evolution here, but, rather, description of a new creation.
We don't follow the so called Christian thought.
About 99% of all the flora and fauna that ever existed is now extinct.

That's one wasteful god you worship.

Still, never you mind; stay in your little cult and stick to your magic and ju-ju and I'll stick with science.

Since: Apr 08

Cambridge, UK

#121818 Jan 21, 2014
irecknso wrote:
Science only explains the working of the machine, nothing of the builder/designer, i was watching the science channel yesterday and several of them admitted that some of their early findings was wrong and that they really don't know! science will keep exploring, religion will perservere! SEEK AND YE SHALL FIND!!
Which religion are you talking about?

There are plenty to choose from.

Since: Apr 08

Cambridge, UK

#121819 Jan 21, 2014
irecknso wrote:
<quoted text> Believing and Knowing are 2 different things. Christians believe in GOD as much as science don't! religion is bondage of man, if 1 reads JESUS' word and understands, he talks of the spiritual, not the religious, he spoke out against religion! GOD IS WITHIN US ALL, that was probably one of thungs that got him killed, organized religion has nothing to do with the teachings of jesus! you believe it's a foundational scientific truth, others don't! 3 billion people believe, 3 billion don't! "YOUR EITHER FOR ME, OR AGAINST ME"
That's "you're" - not "your".

Dumb Jesus. Looks like the concept of neutrality was too much for him to understand.

Still, I fully respect your right to believe that you're in telepathic contact with a 2000 year old zombie who is spying on you from some other dimension.

Carry on.

Since: Apr 08

Cambridge, UK

#121821 Jan 21, 2014
irecknso wrote:
<quoted text> How in anyway to you get threat outta that you condescending p.o.s!! i am not fkn religious at all, satan worshiper? haha! you are fkn as ignorant as any religionist i ever saw!! i don't guess you know the meaning of jesus came to heal the sick, the well need no doctor do you? of course you don't you ignorant b@[email protected] or you wouldn't be posting that stuff, organized religion is for you weak hearted people that can't live your own life. you think GOD is confined in them walls? let me give you a hint as to where you can find him, " LIFT A ROCK, YOU WILL FIND ME, SPLIT A PIECE OF WOOD, I AM THERE" now you fkn jerk off, what part of that don't you understand? don't presume to know me!! you must be 1 of them people that say, send your money to the lord but they give you their address!! i bet you never helped a stranger in your life, you fkn hypocrite!!

Since: Apr 08

Cambridge, UK

#121822 Jan 21, 2014
spaceship wrote:
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You are a angry person, I see what the bybull has done for you. Do you know anymore cuss words or you running on empty sinner?
It's all that xtian love.

He's positively overflowing with it.
spaceship

Rancho Cordova, CA

#121824 Jan 21, 2014
Khatru wrote:
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It's all that xtian love.
He's positively overflowing with it.
Here must have drank too much of the Jesus ju-ju magic and now speaking in tongues aka Tourette's syndrome.
spaceship

Rancho Cordova, CA

#121825 Jan 21, 2014
Khatru wrote:
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It's all that xtian love.
He's positively overflowing with it.
YAA must have release the kraken, the end is near.

Since: Apr 08

Cambridge, UK

#121827 Jan 21, 2014
irecknso wrote:
<quoted text> don't presume to know me clown!
Damn!

There's no fooling you.

You Christians sure are smart.

You never swallow anything Satan is trying to put in your mouth.

For you, Jesus always comes first.

Since: Apr 08

Cambridge, UK

#121828 Jan 21, 2014
spaceship wrote:
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Here must have drank too much of the Jesus ju-ju magic and now speaking in tongues aka Tourette's syndrome.
Yeah.

Now he's probably muttering at the ceiling fan - it's what Christians do.

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