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Bible study rules for public schools proposed

There are 151620 comments on the The Courier-Journal story from Feb 10, 2010, titled Bible study rules for public schools proposed. In it, The Courier-Journal reports that:

FRANKFORT, Ky. - The state would create rules for teaching about the Bible in public high schools under a bill filed Monday by three Democratic senators.

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Since: Sep 13

United States of America

#121124 Jan 13, 2014
You Christians will do anything to justify your prejudice, immoral, and bias attitude you harbor of atheist.

“Breaking the spell ”

Since: Dec 10

of the puppet master

#121125 Jan 13, 2014
Curious wrote:
<quoted text>
Your Excuse that Atheists should not be expected to provide shows your inhumaneness.
Atheism is not just a term for unbelief ,Atheism is a Faith and you know it.
Atheism starts churches 1) because Atheism is a Faith
2) Atheism seeks to correct the wrong they committed initially by deconverting unsuspecting victims ,whom were told that they would be free and happier.
Their failure to reach that objective has caused them to try and duplicate what only belief in God can accomplish.
Their attempts to set up a counterfeit church by duplicating many of the established Christian principles and leaving out the foundation for those primciples ,belief in God and Christ ,will prove futile ,if it has not already statrted to do soi.
This new movement ,met with much hoopla and only a few months old ,has already started to fall apart.
There is already a huge division among the Faithless ,they have split into different groups and are fighting like cats and dogs...
Listening to Bon Jovi records has not been a rallying point , denying God's existence has not been a rallying point ,, Having a negative outlook on life has never been a rallying point .
That behaviour leads to depression and other unwanted and unhealthy afflictions
As for claim number 2, no wrong was committed. And again, you act as if all are converted to atheism due to someone telling them god is a myth. Some are not even converted, some never believed the tale to start.
You whined about atheism having no support system, so then when atheists make one, you bitch about it. You want your cake and eat it also.

“Breaking the spell ”

Since: Dec 10

of the puppet master

#121126 Jan 13, 2014
Curious wrote:
<quoted text>
Your Excuse that Atheists should not be expected to provide shows your inhumaneness.
Atheism is not just a term for unbelief ,Atheism is a Faith and you know it.
Atheism starts churches 1) because Atheism is a Faith
2) Atheism seeks to correct the wrong they committed initially by deconverting unsuspecting victims ,whom were told that they would be free and happier.
Their failure to reach that objective has caused them to try and duplicate what only belief in God can accomplish.
Their attempts to set up a counterfeit church by duplicating many of the established Christian principles and leaving out the foundation for those primciples ,belief in God and Christ ,will prove futile ,if it has not already statrted to do soi.
This new movement ,met with much hoopla and only a few months old ,has already started to fall apart.
There is already a huge division among the Faithless ,they have split into different groups and are fighting like cats and dogs...
Listening to Bon Jovi records has not been a rallying point , denying God's existence has not been a rallying point ,, Having a negative outlook on life has never been a rallying point .
That behaviour leads to depression and other unwanted and unhealthy afflictions
"new movement"? Not sure what the hell you are talking about? Atheism has been around long before your god was invented. No wars of atheists fighting atheists over what god does not do; But then again, you did post that satire article because you are so damned gullible you believed it. Then you lied about it in typical Curious fashion. You are a joke.

Since: Sep 13

United States of America

#121127 Jan 13, 2014
Curious wrote:
<quoted text>
In spite of your feeble attempts , you are unable to hide your Loser Atheist habits.
The study cited was conducted by Pew research and harvard University and you failed to refute any of the findings....
To simply attempt to dismiss the facts as irrelevant because you can not dispute them is a typical Atheist tactic that I have seen used on this website..
You , Duckett and Krak are among the worst offenders.
You can dress your immoral and inhumane behaviour with as many excuses as you wish.
A sow with a ring on her nose and dressed in Royal linen , Is still a sow.
You excuses do not have the power to alter the facts.......
They are not facts, they have been dismissed and refuted.
loser Atheist habits?{laughing} a visual of curious stomping his feet and sticking his tongue out, with his eyes and nose squinched in an angry rage just came to mind. Are you 10 years old?

Since: Sep 13

United States of America

#121128 Jan 13, 2014
You have the audacity to call us the offenders? Since I've been commenting on this thread, all I've witnessed from you is pure hatred generated to any non believer or atheist. You are a very cynical person.
Did you attend services yesterday?
Known Fact

Orlando, FL

#121129 Jan 13, 2014
Mike Duquette wrote:
<quoted text>I do not have a god. Don't you know what an atheist is?
And if you think I am going to look up your scriptures, you are wrong.
I might read them if you cut and paste them. You are the master at that. But maybe your propaganda did not post it, so you have to actually work more to do it.
I can tell you for sure my brain was about as messed up as yours is so it needed a good washing maybe you should try it while there is still time!
Sure I know what an atheist is, and the sad thing is, it is a Satan worshiper and you don't even know it.
Jehovah's Witnesses will be glad to help you free of charge and there is no obligation. You can still be an Atheist aka Satan worshiper if you choose.
Yes I can cut and paste the scriptures for you but if you are too lazy to look them up then why should I bother?

Since: Apr 08

Cambridge, UK

#121131 Jan 13, 2014
SevenTee wrote:
<quoted text>
Sir, First of all it doesn't say Ninevah would be "destroyed". Second God promises if you Repent you will be saved. You can not take things out of context you must read the Bible completely. Read very carefully verse 10, God kept his word and Jonah told the people what God told Jonah was going to happen to them if they did not Repent.
4 And Jonah began to enter into the city a day's journey, and he cried, and said, Yet forty days, and Nineveh shall be overthrown.
5 So the people of Nineveh believed God, and proclaimed a fast, and put on sackcloth, from the greatest of them even to the least of them.
6 For word came unto the king of Nineveh, and he arose from his throne, and he laid his robe from him, and covered him with sackcloth, and sat in ashes.
7 And he caused it to be proclaimed and published through Nineveh by the decree of the king and his nobles, saying, Let neither man nor beast, herd nor flock, taste any thing: let them not feed, nor drink water:
8 But let man and beast be covered with sackcloth, and cry mightily unto God: yea, let them turn every one from his evil way, and from the violence that is in their hands.
9 Who can tell if God will turn and repent, and turn away from his fierce anger, that we perish not?
10 And God saw their works, that they turned from their evil way; and God repented of the evil, that he had said that he would do unto them; and he did it not.
It really depends on which version of the bible you pick up. There are plenty of translations where verse 10 reads that Gos repented of the "destruction" he said he would do.

So if you go by that, then the prophecy was indeed about Ninevah being destroyed.

In any event, what is interesting is that you've had to admit that not only does your god change his mind (what he says he will do does not always happen) but also that your god repents.

Here's hoping that curious doesn't read this as he claims that his god does not repent. That's despite the existence of plenty of scriptures that quite clearly say that God does repent.

Looks like curious doesn't believe everything he reads in the bible.

Since: Apr 08

Cambridge, UK

#121132 Jan 13, 2014
Known Fact wrote:
<quoted text>
I can tell you for sure my brain was about as messed up as yours is so it needed a good washing maybe you should try it while there is still time!
Sure I know what an atheist is, and the sad thing is, it is a Satan worshiper and you don't even know it.
Jehovah's Witnesses will be glad to help you free of charge and there is no obligation. You can still be an Atheist aka Satan worshiper if you choose.
Yes I can cut and paste the scriptures for you but if you are too lazy to look them up then why should I bother?
Cultism?

Just say no!
TruthSeeker

Canal Winchester, OH

#121133 Jan 13, 2014
What if I told you, Jesus came to abolish religion? What if I told you getting you to vote republican, really wasn’t his mission? Because republican doesn’t automatically mean Christian, And just because you call some people blind, doesn’t automatically give you vision. If religion is so great, why has it started so many wars? Why does it build huge churches, but fails to feed the poor? Tells single moms God doesn’t love them if they’ve ever been divorced Yet God in the Old Testament actually calls the religious people whores Religion preaches grace, but another thing they practice, Tend to ridicule Gods people, they did it to John the Baptist, Cant fix their problems, so they try to mask it, Not realizing that’s just like sprayin perfume on a casket Because the problem with religion is that it never gets to the core, It’s just behavior modification, like a long list of chores. Let’s dress up the outside, make things look nice and neat, Its funny that’s what they do to mummies, while the corpse rots underneath, Now I ain’t judging I’m just saying be careful of putting on a fake look, Because there’s a problem if people only know that you’re a Christian by that little section on your facebook In every other aspect of life you know that logics unworthy Its like saying you play for the lakers just because you bought a jersey But see I played this game too; no one seemed to be on to me, I was acting like church kid, while addicted to pornography. I’d go to church on Sunday, but on saturday getting faded, Acting as if I was simply created to have sex and get wasted. Spend my whole life putting on this façade of neatness, But now that I know Jesus, I boast in my weakness. If grace is water, then the church should be an ocean, Cuz its not a museum for good people, it’s a hospital for the broken I no longer have to hide my failures I don’t have to hide my sin, Because my salvation doesn’t depend on me, it depends on him. because when I was Gods enemy and certainly not a fan, God looked down on me and said,“I want that man!” Which is so different from religious people, and why Jesus called em fools Don’t you see hes so much better than just following some rules? Now let me clarify, I love the church, I love the bible, and I believe in sin But my question, is if Jesus were here today, would your church let Him in? Remember He was called a drunkard and a glutton by “religious men” The Son of God not supported self-righteousness, not now, not then. Now back to the topic, one thing I think is vital to mention, How Jesus and religion are on opposite spectrums, One is the work of God one is a man made invention, One is the cure and one is the infection. Because Religion says do, Jesus says done.

Religion says slave, Jesus says son, Religion puts you in shackles but Jesus sets you free. Religion makes you blind, but Jesus lets you see. This is what makes religion and Jesus two different clans, Religion is man searching for God, but Christianity is God searching for man. Which is why salvation is freely mine, forgiveness is my own, Not based on my efforts, but Christ’s obedience alone. Because he took the crown of thorns, and blood that dripped down his face He took what we all deserved, that’s why we call it grace. While being murdered he yelled “father forgive them, they know not what they do”, Because when he was dangling on that cross, he was thinking of you He paid for all your sin, and then buried it in the tomb, Which is why im kneeling at the cross now saying come on there’s room So know I hate religion, in fact I literally resent it, Because when Jesus cried It is finished, I believe He meant it.
TruthSeeker

Canal Winchester, OH

#121134 Jan 13, 2014
Or you could just watch the Spoken truth as written above its very good actually...http://youtu.be/1IA hDGYlpqY

Since: Feb 12

Rancho Cordova, CA

#121135 Jan 14, 2014
Khatru wrote:
<quoted text>
It really depends on which version of the bible you pick up. There are plenty of translations where verse 10 reads that Gos repented of the "destruction" he said he would do.
So if you go by that, then the prophecy was indeed about Ninevah being destroyed.
In any event, what is interesting is that you've had to admit that not only does your god change his mind (what he says he will do does not always happen) but also that your god repents.
Here's hoping that curious doesn't read this as he claims that his god does not repent. That's despite the existence of plenty of scriptures that quite clearly say that God does repent.
Looks like curious doesn't believe everything he reads in the bible.
Christians use the pagan fish symbol which represents a womens vagina which is one of the female goddesses of the Ninevites. Also used Easter celebration which is also taken from the Ninevites, Ishtar the goddess of fertility.

So all this preaching from ones who has adopted Ninevites pagan customs, go figure.

http://atheism.about.com/od/easterholidayseas...
Curious

Winter Garden, FL

#121137 Jan 14, 2014
Mike Duquette wrote:
<quoted text>The answer is in your question silly. Atheist make churches because the community organization is what is typically missing for atheists.
Atheism is not a faith, but keep up the lies, it suits you.
Atheism is a Faith , You deny it is a faith because you are unable to defend it.

Any faith that can not be defended is not worth having.

William Lane Craig

"If atheism is taken to be a view, namely the view that there is no God, then atheists must shoulder their share of the burden of proof to support this view. But many atheists admit freely that they cannot sustain such a burden of proof. So they try to shirk their epistemic responsibility by re-defining atheism so that it is no longer a view but just a psychological condition which as such makes no assertions. They are really closet agnostics who want to claim the mantle of atheism without shouldering its responsibilities."

This is disingenuous and still leaves us asking,“So is there a God or not?”

As I have stated before , Atheists lack the courage to defend their Faith and you do this by hiding behind the lie that Atheism is not a Faith

We addressed that issue when we discussed creation.

I spelled out my reasons for believing in God as the creator . I challenged all of you ,If not God,then Who...None of you had the courage to take up the challenge . All that was provided was smokescreens ,as you well know.

Since: Dec 11

Location hidden

#121138 Jan 14, 2014
Curious wrote:
<quoted text>
Atheism is a Faith , You deny it is a faith because you are unable to defend it.
Atheism has no tenets; it is not a faith.

You merely wish to label it as one because you internally understand that faith is a silly thing.
Curious wrote:
"If atheism is taken to be a view, namely the view that there is no God, then atheists must shoulder their share of the burden of proof to support this view. But many atheists admit freely that they cannot sustain such a burden of proof. So they try to shirk their epistemic responsibility by re-defining atheism so that it is no longer a view but just a psychological condition which as such makes no assertions. They are really closet agnostics who want to claim the mantle of atheism without shouldering its responsibilities."
It is Craig who is trying to redefine terms. Atheism is a question of belief; agnosticism is a question of knowledge. Most self-described atheists are agnostics, and vice-versa.

Since: Dec 11

Location hidden

#121139 Jan 14, 2014
Curious wrote:
I challenged all of you ,If not God,then Who...None of you had the courage to take up the challenge . All that was provided was smokescreens ,as you well know.
There is no "Who".

And even if there was, why would anyone choose to believe it was the god of the Bible, whose followers thought the Earth was a flat disc and that diseases were causes by demons? You'd think that people being influenced by an all-knowing deity wouldn't be so wrong, so often. I mean, really...did the ancient Hebrews or early Christians add ANY new scientific understanding to the world?

“See how you are?”

Since: Jul 12

Earth

#121140 Jan 14, 2014
Curious wrote:
<quoted text>
Atheism is a Faith , You deny it is a faith because you are unable to defend it.
Any faith that can not be defended is not worth having.
William Lane Craig
"If atheism is taken to be a view, namely the view that there is no God, then atheists must shoulder their share of the burden of proof to support this view. But many atheists admit freely that they cannot sustain such a burden of proof. So they try to shirk their epistemic responsibility by re-defining atheism so that it is no longer a view but just a psychological condition which as such makes no assertions. They are really closet agnostics who want to claim the mantle of atheism without shouldering its responsibilities."
This is disingenuous and still leaves us asking,“So is there a God or not?”
As I have stated before , Atheists lack the courage to defend their Faith and you do this by hiding behind the lie that Atheism is not a Faith
We addressed that issue when we discussed creation.
I spelled out my reasons for believing in God as the creator . I challenged all of you ,If not God,then Who...None of you had the courage to take up the challenge . All that was provided was smokescreens ,as you well know.
It's been pointed out innumerable times that there does not have to be a "if not God, then who?" except in the damaged brains of religies who cannot fathom anything else.
YOU HAVE NEVER given a comprehensive reason for believing in any God as a creator, or if you did it was long lost in your tired daily dirge about how evil and miserable you "think" non-believers of (your) religious dogma are.

I found a marble in my yard - I didn't put it there and I can't prove that God didn't put it there. I have no evidence whatsoever that a child dropped it - therefore God MUST have put it there for me to find and give glory to Him for it as proof that He exists, because nothing that happens is without His Purpose. Doesn't that about sum it up, curious, YaA, KF?

“Breaking the spell ”

Since: Dec 10

of the puppet master

#121141 Jan 14, 2014
Known Fact wrote:
<quoted text>
I can tell you for sure my brain was about as messed up as yours is so it needed a good washing maybe you should try it while there is still time!
Sure I know what an atheist is, and the sad thing is, it is a Satan worshiper and you don't even know it.
Jehovah's Witnesses will be glad to help you free of charge and there is no obligation. You can still be an Atheist aka Satan worshiper if you choose.
Yes I can cut and paste the scriptures for you but if you are too lazy to look them up then why should I bother?
If you wish for someone to read your propaganda, at least make it interesting. And you go overboard with the cut and paste. Then when we respond, you ignore it. Now why would we continue reading them if you do not have the courtesy to have a grown up conversation with your own words?
Then you claim I worship Satan. A being I think is a myth, just like your god. It makes zero sense to claim someone worships anything they think is a myth.
With screwed up logic like yours, I see no reason to think you are on the correct path to anything.
Then you insult again by claiming my brain is screwed up? Yet you cannot even show anything I said is lacking logic or reason.
Your claims lack backing. That is the major issue of religion, and is the major reason I am atheist.
So in other words, you only confirm what I think now.

On a positive note, at least in this post you used your own words for a change. Now I see why you don't do it often.

“Breaking the spell ”

Since: Dec 10

of the puppet master

#121142 Jan 14, 2014
Curious wrote:
<quoted text>
Atheism is a Faith , You deny it is a faith because you are unable to defend it.
Any faith that can not be defended is not worth having.
William Lane Craig
"If atheism is taken to be a view, namely the view that there is no God, then atheists must shoulder their share of the burden of proof to support this view. But many atheists admit freely that they cannot sustain such a burden of proof. So they try to shirk their epistemic responsibility by re-defining atheism so that it is no longer a view but just a psychological condition which as such makes no assertions. They are really closet agnostics who want to claim the mantle of atheism without shouldering its responsibilities."
This is disingenuous and still leaves us asking,“So is there a God or not?”
As I have stated before , Atheists lack the courage to defend their Faith and you do this by hiding behind the lie that Atheism is not a Faith
We addressed that issue when we discussed creation.
I spelled out my reasons for believing in God as the creator . I challenged all of you ,If not God,then Who...None of you had the courage to take up the challenge . All that was provided was smokescreens ,as you well know.
First, Craig's narrow definition of atheist is not always what an atheist is. An atheist needs not to make a claim of a god not existing. Many atheists simply do not believe in a god. I am sure you are to stupid to see the difference.
Atheism is a faith just like not believing in unicorns and leprechauns is a faith.
One need to say, their are no unicorns, he may simply say, I do not believe in unicorns. Probably due to the knowledge of myth making and the fact no one can produce evidence of unicorns.
I certainly do not believe in your god, as it makes no logical sense, and you cannot produce a single ounce of evidence the god exists.

If someone in the room claims a pink elephant is in the room, and others do not believe him, it is not the unbelievers burden to supply evidence the elephant is not in the room.

I know all this is far beyond the ability of your narrow brain to comprehend, so continue repeating yourself like a bird(parrot). Today, Craig is your master, now chant.

“Breaking the spell ”

Since: Dec 10

of the puppet master

#121143 Jan 14, 2014
Curious wrote:
<quoted text>
Atheism is a Faith , You deny it is a faith because you are unable to defend it.
Any faith that can not be defended is not worth having.
William Lane Craig
"If atheism is taken to be a view, namely the view that there is no God, then atheists must shoulder their share of the burden of proof to support this view. But many atheists admit freely that they cannot sustain such a burden of proof. So they try to shirk their epistemic responsibility by re-defining atheism so that it is no longer a view but just a psychological condition which as such makes no assertions. They are really closet agnostics who want to claim the mantle of atheism without shouldering its responsibilities."
This is disingenuous and still leaves us asking,“So is there a God or not?”
As I have stated before , Atheists lack the courage to defend their Faith and you do this by hiding behind the lie that Atheism is not a Faith
We addressed that issue when we discussed creation.
I spelled out my reasons for believing in God as the creator . I challenged all of you ,If not God,then Who...None of you had the courage to take up the challenge . All that was provided was smokescreens ,as you well know.
I defend atheism ever single day on this thread. Where have you been? Oh, forgot, you have blinders on.

“Breaking the spell ”

Since: Dec 10

of the puppet master

#121144 Jan 14, 2014
ChromiuMan wrote:
<quoted text>
It's been pointed out innumerable times that there does not have to be a "if not God, then who?" except in the damaged brains of religies who cannot fathom anything else.
YOU HAVE NEVER given a comprehensive reason for believing in any God as a creator, or if you did it was long lost in your tired daily dirge about how evil and miserable you "think" non-believers of (your) religious dogma are.
I found a marble in my yard - I didn't put it there and I can't prove that God didn't put it there. I have no evidence whatsoever that a child dropped it - therefore God MUST have put it there for me to find and give glory to Him for it as proof that He exists, because nothing that happens is without His Purpose. Doesn't that about sum it up, curious, YaA, KF?
I was wondering were those darned marbles came from. Damn you god.

“Breaking the spell ”

Since: Dec 10

of the puppet master

#121145 Jan 14, 2014
Known Fact wrote:
<quoted text>
I can tell you for sure my brain was about as messed up as yours is so it needed a good washing maybe you should try it while there is still time!
Sure I know what an atheist is, and the sad thing is, it is a Satan worshiper and you don't even know it.
Jehovah's Witnesses will be glad to help you free of charge and there is no obligation. You can still be an Atheist aka Satan worshiper if you choose.
Yes I can cut and paste the scriptures for you but if you are too lazy to look them up then why should I bother?
Thanks for admitting you were brainwashed.

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