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Bible study rules for public schools proposed

There are 169934 comments on the The Courier-Journal story from Feb 10, 2010, titled Bible study rules for public schools proposed. In it, The Courier-Journal reports that:

FRANKFORT, Ky. - The state would create rules for teaching about the Bible in public high schools under a bill filed Monday by three Democratic senators.

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Yes and Amen

Richmond, KY

#120903 Jan 11, 2014
Mike Duquette wrote:
<quoted text>The DNA of humans compared to Chimpanzees are closer than that of a banana. Your claim is an absolute lie, fabricated to attempt promotion of your blind faith.
The DNA comparisons show the relations of species, and they have proved the claims of evolution predictions true. What appeared as a relative was confirmed with DNA. Just as in a paternity case. DNA does not lie.
Now you can claim your god made it all you wish, but it does not change the fact the relations are so. Thus evolution is so.
You would not recognize a transition fossil if it was glued to your face. Every fossil is of a transition.
Hahaha...
The Point was.... The DNA is different for you, as it is for chimp, as it is for a....
The ONLY thing they have in common.... a Creator!
Yes and Amen

Richmond, KY

#120905 Jan 11, 2014
Quantummist wrote:
<quoted text>
That is of course Non-Sense as right now you are going by the concept of Right and Wrong you have been taught by society you live in... At this same time there are other Societies that think your concept of what right is wrong and your concept of whats wrong is actually right... You probably think it's Wrong to have 5 wives... But several other societies think it not only right but would be wrong to have but one...
There are 1000's of other examples of the very ideas of right and wrong are different to differing societies over time and in different places but you don't seem to have the mental capacity to even understand the concept that your views of such are formed by your life within a specific society ...
My mental capacity is sufficient to know what is right in all circumstances... Just because they change from one society to the next has nothing to do with the truth!
All else is "Preference"!
Yes and Amen

Richmond, KY

#120906 Jan 11, 2014
Mike Duquette wrote:
<quoted text>A primate is a primate. Chimpanzees and humans are primates. Do you know what a category is? I have explained this to you before, but you are not able to comprehend.
Yes I do..., and yes I am!
They are man made terms!
You want to say you are an animal, probably so you can THINK you can live without guilt.
The fact remains... you are not an animal... you just act that way!
No other creature on earth can do what you do!
Yes and Amen

Richmond, KY

#120907 Jan 11, 2014
Khatru wrote:
<quoted text>
I've got to hand it to your god.
It's plain to see that he's favoured you with a discerning mind but hobbled me with logic and reasoning skills.
I can't help but admire the way your god went out of his way to deceive me by planting false clues like fossils, Clues which cause little concern to you but which result in a man of logic and reason rejecting your religion.
No... He didn't deceive you... satan did, with what you think is Logic...

Romans
1:25 Who changed the truth of God into a lie, and worshiped and
served the creature more than the Creator, who is blessed for
ever. Amen.
1:26 For this cause God gave them up to vile affections. For
even their women did change the natural use into that which is
against nature:
1:27 And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the
woman, burned in their lust one towards another; men with men
working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves
that recompense of their error which was meet.
1:28 And even as they did not like to retain God in [their]
knowledge, God gave them over to a reprobate mind, to do those
things which are not convenient;
1:29 Being filled with all unrighteousness, fornication,
wickedness, covetousness, maliciousness; full of envy, murder,
debate, deceit, malignity; whisperers,
1:30 Backbiters, haters of God, despiteful, proud, boasters,
inventers of evil things, disobedient to parents,
1:31 Without understanding, covenant-breakers, without natural
affection, implacable, unmerciful:
1:32 Who, knowing the judgment of God, that they who commit such
things are worthy of death; not only do the same, but have
pleasure in them that do them.

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Curious

Winter Garden, FL

#120908 Jan 11, 2014
spaceship wrote:
<quoted text>
The bible is "obsolete" because it's ancient, ignorant, rather silly myth and superstition; much of it is clearly shown false by ample evidence, the rest has no supporting evidence of any kind. It's of no more value than any other ancient ignorant myth.
There's no need to burn it, it's a tiny bit useful as a way of knowing the mythology of a small group of ancient ignorant bronze-age goat herders, but nothing else.
The Bible is far from obsolete ,foolish claims made by fools to the contrary

The familiar observation that the Bible is the best-selling book of all time obscures a more startling fact: the Bible is the best-selling book of the year, every year. Calculating how many Bibles are sold in the United States is a virtually impossible task, but a conservative estimate is that in 2005 Americans purchased some twenty-five million Bibles—twice as many as the most recent Harry Potter book. The amount spent annually on Bibles has been put at more than half a billion dollars.
In some ways, this should not be surprising. According to the Barna Group, an evangelical polling firm, forty-seven per cent of Americans read the Bible every week. But other research has found that ninety-one per cent of American households own at least one Bible—the average household owns four—which means that Bible publishers manage to sell twenty-five million copies a year of a book that almost everybody already has
Moreover , one must also consider that those 25% of the Atheists that attend religious services on a regular basis , diligently seeking for answers that Atheism is unable to provide and the 10% who claim to believe in God , add to the volume of Bible sales
Far from irrelevant ,owning and reading a bible seems to be almost mandatory in our society
Yes and Amen

Richmond, KY

#120909 Jan 11, 2014
Quantummist wrote:
<quoted text>
Disagree all you wish, Humans are by definition primates...
By men... not God!
Curious

Winter Garden, FL

#120910 Jan 11, 2014
Mike Duquette wrote:
<quoted text>Being depressed can lead to suicide. But as I stated, and you have failed to refute, there is not a single documented case of suicide attributed to atheism.
Just because you and one other guy thinks it is likely, does not make it so.
If one reads Rosch's article ,one can conclude that Atheism lead to the suicide of one of his friends and that the other 2 he mentions are suffering because of their deconversion.
That is the type of evidence that requires further investigation , which you and other Atheists oppose.
By Rosch's own words ,deconversion leads to a period of loneliness , feeling ostracized as a result of abandoning one's God , family and friends.
That leads to deerp depression which can lead to suicide.
So there is evidence ,evidence which needs to be investigated.
spaceship

Rancho Cordova, CA

#120911 Jan 11, 2014
SevenTee wrote:
<quoted text>
Luke was a Physician and the author of the Gospel of Luke in the Bible.
Sorry you are foolish
Did Luke have the gift from God to heal people and grow limbs on amputees? Yes or No.

an entire sect of the Jews were celebrated for their skill in the treatment of diseases. They were called indiscriminately by the name of Essenians, or by that of Therapeutists, signifying healers—physicians. The most remarkable man among them was Theodore, the physician, a man of great merit, who flourished at Alexandria.*

* Mishnah. treatise Bechoroth, cap. iv. 4.

"The Essenians, distinguished for their pure and amiable morality, cultivated medicine not only to make themselves more acceptable, but to discover the means of perfecting the mental qualities, by rendering the body most healthy. Apostles of their doctrines, they confirmed them by a great number of remarkable cures.

"The members of this sect were esteemed as saints and physicians, who could by faith and words alone, heal diseases. This plan of driving unclean spirits from the body of the diseased by their conjurations, was also pursued at that time by the Pharisees. Josephus* relates a case of which he was an eye-witness, of the cure of one possessed with an unclean spirit, produced by a certain Eleazer, in the presence of the Emperor Vespasian. The physician introduced into the nose of the sick person, a root recommended in similar cases by King Solomon, which God had endowed with this property: he pronounced, besides, the name of this ancient kind of Israel, and the magical formula which he had laid down."
spaceship

Rancho Cordova, CA

#120912 Jan 11, 2014
Curious wrote:
<quoted text>
The Bible is far from obsolete ,foolish claims made by fools to the contrary
The familiar observation that the Bible is the best-selling book of all time obscures a more startling fact: the Bible is the best-selling book of the year, every year. Calculating how many Bibles are sold in the United States is a virtually impossible task, but a conservative estimate is that in 2005 Americans purchased some twenty-five million Bibles—twice as many as the most recent Harry Potter book. The amount spent annually on Bibles has been put at more than half a billion dollars.
In some ways, this should not be surprising. According to the Barna Group, an evangelical polling firm, forty-seven per cent of Americans read the Bible every week. But other research has found that ninety-one per cent of American households own at least one Bible—the average household owns four—which means that Bible publishers manage to sell twenty-five million copies a year of a book that almost everybody already has
Moreover , one must also consider that those 25% of the Atheists that attend religious services on a regular basis , diligently seeking for answers that Atheism is unable to provide and the 10% who claim to believe in God , add to the volume of Bible sales
Far from irrelevant ,owning and reading a bible seems to be almost mandatory in our society
pantalones mentiroso mentiroso en el fuego
Known Fact

Orlando, FL

#120913 Jan 11, 2014
Mike Duquette wrote:
<quoted text>I am not one of the billion or so Christians who think Jesus is a god.
I am simply pointing out that Christians cannot even agree on what their Jesus is.
Do you suppose there is a difference between being a so called Christian and a true Christian? Just a thought.
See 2 Corinthians 11:13-15 and let me know what you think of that scripture,
Curious

Winter Garden, FL

#120914 Jan 11, 2014
spaceship wrote:
<quoted text>
pantalones mentiroso mentiroso en el fuego
Lol , Whoever deconverted you is probably the same idiot who is teaching you Spanish
And he got it all backasswards
Pants lying lying in the fire 'is not the same as liar liar pants on fire
Mas aun ,Los embusteros y malparidos de zobaco son los Ateos.
Sus mentiras ,como una cucharada de mocos , nadie se las traga

BTW You wanna try some German Tontiloco
Known Fact

Orlando, FL

#120915 Jan 11, 2014
Are there sound reasons for believing in God?

Ps. 19:1:“The heavens are declaring the glory of God; and of the work of his hands the expanse is telling.”
Ps. 104:24:“How many your works are, O Jehovah! All of them in wisdom you have made. The earth is full of your productions.”
Rom. 1:20:“His invisible qualities are clearly seen from the world’s creation onward, because they are perceived by the things made.”
New Scientist magazine said:“The lay view persists—of scientists having ‘disproved’ religion. It is a view that commonly expects scientists to be nonbelievers; that Darwin put the last nails in God’s coffin; and that a succession of scientific and technological innovations since have ruled out the possibility of any resurrection. It is a view that is wildly wrong.”—May 26, 1977, p. 478.
A member of the French Academy of Sciences stated:“Natural order was not invented by the human mind or set up by certain perceptive powers.. . . The existence of order presupposes the existence of organizing intelligence. Such intelligence can be none other than God’s.”—Dieu existe? Oui (Paris, 1979), Christian Chabanis, quoting Pierre-Paul Grassé, p. 94.
Scientists have identified over 100 chemical elements. Their atomic structure displays an intricate mathematical interrelationship of the elements. The periodic table points to obvious design. Such amazing design could not possibly be accidental, a product of chance.
Illustration: When we see a camera, a radio, or a computer, we readily acknowledge that it must have been produced by an intelligent designer. Would it be reasonable, then, to say that far more complex things—the eye, the ear, and the human brain—did not originate with an intelligent Designer?
Known Fact

Orlando, FL

#120916 Jan 11, 2014
In this modern, scientific world, is it reasonable to believe in creation?

“The natural laws of the universe are so precise that we have no difficulty building a spaceship to fly to the moon and can time the flight with the precision of a fraction of a second. These laws must have been set by somebody.”—Quoted from Wernher von Braun, who had much to do with sending American astronauts to the moon.
Physical universe: If you found a precision timepiece, would you conclude that it was formed by a chance blowing together of some dust particles? Obviously, someone with intelligence made it. There is an even more magnificent “clock.” The planets in our solar system, also the stars in the entire universe, move at a rate that is more precise than most clocks designed and manufactured by man. The galaxy in which our solar system is located includes over 100 billion stars, and astronomers estimate that there are 100 billion of such galaxies in the universe. If a clock is evidence of intelligent design, how much more so is the far more vast and complicated universe! The Bible describes the Designer of it as “the true God, Jehovah,. . . the Creator of the heavens and the Grand One stretching them out.”—Isa. 42:5; 40:26; Ps. 19:1.

“Breaking the spell ”

Since: Dec 10

of the puppet master

#120917 Jan 11, 2014
Yes and Amen wrote:
<quoted text>Hahaha...
The Point was.... The DNA is different for you, as it is for chimp, as it is for a....
The ONLY thing they have in common.... a Creator!
They are different, but the similarities show a common ancestor. Do you always lie to make a point?
Maybe try telling the truth and we might take what you have to say, seriously.

“Breaking the spell ”

Since: Dec 10

of the puppet master

#120918 Jan 11, 2014
Known Fact wrote:
<quoted text>
Do you suppose there is a difference between being a so called Christian and a true Christian? Just a thought.
See 2 Corinthians 11:13-15 and let me know what you think of that scripture,
I think a true Christian is someone that actually believes Jesus is the Christ.
Now as for a person who actually follows what Jesus said? Very few are this. Just look at this thread. None of the Christians here can follow the "turn the other cheek" thing. They all lie in a pathological manner.
But then again, Jesus is supposedly not going to turn the other cheek when he returns. So I understand how the mixed message confuses believers.
You see, humans follow by example, and your gods set a poor example.

“Breaking the spell ”

Since: Dec 10

of the puppet master

#120919 Jan 11, 2014
Known Fact wrote:
In this modern, scientific world, is it reasonable to believe in creation?
“The natural laws of the universe are so precise that we have no difficulty building a spaceship to fly to the moon and can time the flight with the precision of a fraction of a second. These laws must have been set by somebody.”—Quoted from Wernher von Braun, who had much to do with sending American astronauts to the moon.
Physical universe: If you found a precision timepiece, would you conclude that it was formed by a chance blowing together of some dust particles? Obviously, someone with intelligence made it. There is an even more magnificent “clock.” The planets in our solar system, also the stars in the entire universe, move at a rate that is more precise than most clocks designed and manufactured by man. The galaxy in which our solar system is located includes over 100 billion stars, and astronomers estimate that there are 100 billion of such galaxies in the universe. If a clock is evidence of intelligent design, how much more so is the far more vast and complicated universe! The Bible describes the Designer of it as “the true God, Jehovah,. . . the Creator of the heavens and the Grand One stretching them out.”—Isa. 42:5; 40:26; Ps. 19:1.
Good question, and just what intelligent creator made your watchmaker? Or in other words, by your logic, god needed a creator.

“Breaking the spell ”

Since: Dec 10

of the puppet master

#120920 Jan 11, 2014
Known Fact wrote:
Are there sound reasons for believing in God?
Ps. 19:1:“The heavens are declaring the glory of God; and of the work of his hands the expanse is telling.”
Ps. 104:24:“How many your works are, O Jehovah! All of them in wisdom you have made. The earth is full of your productions.”
Rom. 1:20:“His invisible qualities are clearly seen from the world’s creation onward, because they are perceived by the things made.”
New Scientist magazine said:“The lay view persists—of scientists having ‘disproved’ religion. It is a view that commonly expects scientists to be nonbelievers; that Darwin put the last nails in God’s coffin; and that a succession of scientific and technological innovations since have ruled out the possibility of any resurrection. It is a view that is wildly wrong.”—May 26, 1977, p. 478.
A member of the French Academy of Sciences stated:“Natural order was not invented by the human mind or set up by certain perceptive powers.. . . The existence of order presupposes the existence of organizing intelligence. Such intelligence can be none other than God’s.”—Dieu existe? Oui (Paris, 1979), Christian Chabanis, quoting Pierre-Paul Grassé, p. 94.
Scientists have identified over 100 chemical elements. Their atomic structure displays an intricate mathematical interrelationship of the elements. The periodic table points to obvious design. Such amazing design could not possibly be accidental, a product of chance.
Illustration: When we see a camera, a radio, or a computer, we readily acknowledge that it must have been produced by an intelligent designer. Would it be reasonable, then, to say that far more complex things—the eye, the ear, and the human brain—did not originate with an intelligent Designer?
Thank you for showing us what brainwashed you, layman.

“Breaking the spell ”

Since: Dec 10

of the puppet master

#120921 Jan 11, 2014
Known Fact wrote:
<quoted text>
Do you suppose there is a difference between being a so called Christian and a true Christian? Just a thought.
See 2 Corinthians 11:13-15 and let me know what you think of that scripture,
I do not need scriptures to think.

“Breaking the spell ”

Since: Dec 10

of the puppet master

#120922 Jan 11, 2014
Curious wrote:
<quoted text>
If one reads Rosch's article ,one can conclude that Atheism lead to the suicide of one of his friends and that the other 2 he mentions are suffering because of their deconversion.
That is the type of evidence that requires further investigation , which you and other Atheists oppose.
By Rosch's own words ,deconversion leads to a period of loneliness , feeling ostracized as a result of abandoning one's God , family and friends.
That leads to deerp depression which can lead to suicide.
So there is evidence ,evidence which needs to be investigated.
Sorry, but Rosch gave zero evidence of the claims of his personal friends. It was a claim, and even he admitted he could not pinpoint if his friend killed himself. So the massive speculation is as far from evidence as science can get. Atheist or not.
So he has exactly zero evidence of a single suicide due to conversion. Probably why this article is not in a scientific journal, and is in your propaganda.

“Breaking the spell ”

Since: Dec 10

of the puppet master

#120923 Jan 11, 2014
Yes and Amen wrote:
<quoted text>By men... not God!
If your god could actually speak, or write, maybe we would let him be in charge of categories.
So we let experts, we call, scientist do the categories. And they put us in the same category as apes. Don't like it? To bad.

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