Bible study rules for public schools proposed

Feb 10, 2010 Full story: The Courier-Journal 131,417

FRANKFORT, Ky. - The state would create rules for teaching about the Bible in public high schools under a bill filed Monday by three Democratic senators.

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Yes and Amen

Richmond, KY

#120464 Jan 4, 2014
Mike Duquette wrote:
<quoted text>He puts it in other words? You mean the god you worship picked such poor words, it cannot be understood by most humans? Their is a dispute among believers as to what a Christian is. They read the bible. And clearly it does not state it clearly.
I guess the same way it does not clearly state the Trinity.
I see you call names on a regular basis. Just another Jesus believer who refuses to turn the other cheek.
Hey... I cannot help you posting stupid stuff, and you do it on a regular basis!
I turn the other cheek... I keep posting to you!
Abdule

London, KY

#120465 Jan 4, 2014
Yes and Amen wrote:
<quoted text>You better hope that Sharia does not replace our Judaeo-Christian laws...
you guys won't like that at all!
May someone put a goat turd in your supper every night for..........2 years.
Yes and Amen

Richmond, KY

#120466 Jan 4, 2014
Mike Duquette wrote:
<quoted text>So you feel you have deniability because you did not use a specific date? You said "a few short years". Now if someone uses words like "few" and it does not happen in a "few", I think they are wrong. The word "few" is pretty specific.
Now if you think Israel needs to be a nation for a certain period of time first, why did you not at least say that? Seems silly to say "a few short years", when you do not even believe it will be just a few short years.
Fact is, you lied, and you are trying to make excuses.
Just admit being wrong. I see you Christians have a really hard time doing so.
And you wonder why so many think the religion is a farce.
IF you'd read your Bible as you've said... Only God knows the date, and time!
You are welcome to count the years before His return, and at that time, you can tell
me if it went over a "few"!
I've posted many times the "Reason" you " think the religion is a farce"!
You just don't want to face the truth... that's on you!
Yes and Amen

Richmond, KY

#120467 Jan 4, 2014
Abdule wrote:
<quoted text>May someone put a goat turd in your supper every night for..........2 years.
Hahahahaha!
Do you know what is in our food already???
Can I put Habanero sauce on it??? Kills everything!
Yes and Amen

Richmond, KY

#120468 Jan 4, 2014

Since: Apr 08

Nottingham, UK

#120469 Jan 4, 2014
Yes and Amen wrote:
<quoted text>
Read this again S l o w l y!
John
3:16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only-begotten
Son, that whoever believeth in him, should not perish, but have
everlasting life.
3:17 For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the
world, but that the world through him may be saved.
3:18 He that believeth on him, is not condemned: but he that
believeth not, is condemned already, because he hath not
believed in the name of the only-begotten Son of God.
3:19 And this is the condemnation, that light is come into the
world, and men have loved darkness rather than light, because
their deeds were evil.
Now... it's up to you!
Please allow me to return the favour....

‘If you love Allah then follow me , Allah will love you and forgive you your sins. And Allah is Oft-Forgiving, Most Merciful.’ Say ‘Obey Allah and the Messenger .’ But if they turn away, then Allah does not like the disbelievers." (Quran: 3/31)

"O mankind! Verily, there has come to you the Messenger (Muhammad) with the truth from your Rabb. So believe in him, it is better for you. But if you disbelieve, then certainly to Allah belongs all that is in the heavens and the earth. And Allah is Ever All-Knowing, All-Wise." (Quran: 4/170)

"O you who believe! Obey Allah, and obey the Messenger and render not vain your deeds." (Quran: 47/33)

"He who obeys the Messenger has indeed obeyed Allah, but he who turns away, then we have not sent you as a watcher over them." (Quran: 4/80)
SevenT

Williamsburg, OH

#120470 Jan 4, 2014
Khatru wrote:
<quoted text>
Please allow me to return the favour....
‘If you love Allah then follow me , Allah will love you and forgive you your sins. And Allah is Oft-Forgiving, Most Merciful.’ Say ‘Obey Allah and the Messenger .’ But if they turn away, then Allah does not like the disbelievers." (Quran: 3/31)
"O mankind! Verily, there has come to you the Messenger (Muhammad) with the truth from your Rabb. So believe in him, it is better for you. But if you disbelieve, then certainly to Allah belongs all that is in the heavens and the earth. And Allah is Ever All-Knowing, All-Wise." (Quran: 4/170)
"O you who believe! Obey Allah, and obey the Messenger and render not vain your deeds." (Quran: 47/33)
"He who obeys the Messenger has indeed obeyed Allah, but he who turns away, then we have not sent you as a watcher over them." (Quran: 4/80)
You do realize mohammud came hundreds and hundreds of years after Christ? In other words the Torah, Talmund and New Testament were written and preached in Synagogues and Churches all over the world. Most of what that crazy murdering pedophile muhommad fool said was what he heard previously from Jews and Christians. He put his satanic spin on it when he fell into his trances as if he was some sort of a messanger. Then he murdered village after village if you didn't buy into his crap

Seriously you really shouldn't embarass yourself with your anti-Christian rants.

Since: Apr 08

Nottingham, UK

#120471 Jan 4, 2014
SevenT wrote:
<quoted text>
You do realize mohammud came hundreds and hundreds of years after Christ? In other words the Torah, Talmund and New Testament were written and preached in Synagogues and Churches all over the world. Most of what that crazy murdering pedophile muhommad fool said was what he heard previously from Jews and Christians. He put his satanic spin on it when he fell into his trances as if he was some sort of a messanger. Then he murdered village after village if you didn't buy into his crap
Seriously you really shouldn't embarass yourself with your anti-Christian rants.
Doesn't matter.

Jesus came hundreds of years after Moses.

By the way - nice display of Christian love and tolerance.
SevenT

Williamsburg, OH

#120472 Jan 4, 2014
Khatru wrote:
<quoted text>
Doesn't matter.
Jesus came hundreds of years after Moses.
By the way - nice display of Christian love and tolerance.
Why do you continue to use Christian values to judge others then turn around and say you don't believe in God and say Christianity is a myth?

Do I use atheist values to judge you? No because there is no such thing as atheist values or ethics.
Curious

Ocoee, FL

#120473 Jan 4, 2014
ChromiuMan wrote:
<quoted text>
A human like character created all of time and space solely for the benefit of a strain of great apes and specifically for a particular bronze age desert tribe.
The God of the Bible does exist - just as does the great white whale Moby Dick.
Chroe , There are others ,as you well know, that believe that in some distant point in the past, a cadre composed of nonliving,nonintelligent and nonconscious forces somehow managed to create the Universe.
Once these nonentities accomplished their objective , unbeknownst to them , they set in motion something for which they were not equipped to do and had no way of knowing that such was possible . This unexplicable and unknown process was able to create life and the means by which life could flourish

It is easy to understand the logic used in order to arrive at this conclusion.........if one is a fool.

Since: Apr 08

Nottingham, UK

#120474 Jan 4, 2014
SevenT wrote:
<quoted text>
Why do you continue to use Christian values to judge others then turn around and say you don't believe in God and say Christianity is a myth?
Do I use atheist values to judge you? No because there is no such thing as atheist values or ethics.
You would limit all morality to your religion alone.

Of course, the reality is that no single religion has a monopoly on morality, least of all Christianity.

We already know a number of things about Christian morality. Here are a couple of examples of what we know:

1. The Golden Rule isn't that important to Christians.

2. You approve of genocide.

Until you can put your own house in order you have no right telling me about morality.
SevenT

Williamsburg, OH

#120475 Jan 4, 2014
Khatru wrote:
<quoted text>
You would limit all morality to your religion alone.
Of course, the reality is that no single religion has a monopoly on morality, least of all Christianity.
We already know a number of things about Christian morality. Here are a couple of examples of what we know:
1. The Golden Rule isn't that important to Christians.
2. You approve of genocide.
Until you can put your own house in order you have no right telling me about morality.
Yes morality is Judeo Christian morality only as found in the Holy Bible. It is the originator of all morality and is the oldest. If an atheist had morals they would adopt Judeo-Christian morals. It really doesn't matter if the atheist acknowledges this fact or not.

BTW all other religions (including atheism) are using Biblical principles if they have morality or ethics in their religion.
Curious

Ocoee, FL

#120476 Jan 4, 2014
Khatru wrote:
<quoted text>
Ah yes the Bible tells us quite clearly that God repented:
"And it repented the Lord that he had made man on the earth, and it grieved him at his heart"
Genesis 6:6
Unfortunately for the Bible it also tells us quite clearly that God does not repent:
"God is not a man, that he should lie; neither the son of man, that he should repent: hath he said, and shall he not do it? or hath he spoken, and shall he not make it good?"
Numbers 23:19
So..........
Genesis tells us that God repented and Numbers tells us that God can't repent.
Looks like we have another of the many contradictions found throughout he Bible.
I wonder what the Christians believe? Does God repent or doesn't he?
You and Dukett are well known for quoting the Bible based on your foolish and biased interpretations
Search the web , where those who are much more knowledgeable will explain and put what was stated in Numbers 23;19 and Genesis 6;6 in proper perspective.
Curious

Ocoee, FL

#120477 Jan 4, 2014
Abdule wrote:
<quoted text>May someone put a goat turd in your supper every night for..........2 years.
May you be afflicted by Erectyle dysfunction on your wedding night with no access to viagra medication
Curious

Ocoee, FL

#120478 Jan 4, 2014
Mike Duquette wrote:
<quoted text>This is not a business like churches are. I have no quota or need no confirmation of conversions. I need no members to swindle ten percent of their income.
Non of what you said refutes anything I said.
You lie to us so often, I am sure you lie to yourself in order to stay in delusion.
It is not a question of quotas or confirmations of conversions.
The issue is the abject and total failure of Atheism's immoral tactics in your attempts to deconvert poor unsuspecting victims ,as you well know.
Intentionally misleading innocent victims into decoverting and not advising them beforehand of the consecuences they will encounter ,suicidial tendencies, deep depression and other maladies detrimental to their well being should be outlawed and those responsible for doing so should be held accountable for their immoral behaviour.
There are currently laws on the books,whereby , if you misrepresent the product you are selling , you can be brought before a court of law.
Your sales techniques should be covered by such laws.
The laws fall under the heading of ' Deceptive practices"
Curious

Ocoee, FL

#120479 Jan 4, 2014
Mike Duquette wrote:
<quoted text>So you expect the others to turn the other cheek, then will take an eye for an eye?
You might believe Jesus is a god, but you sure do not follow his suggestions.
You probably are among those who believe domestic violence shoud be condoned.
Bullies believe that they have free license to abuse others and should not be subjected to any
type of response in return.
I have already stated my position on that issue ,as you well know.
Proceed at your own risk.
Curious

Ocoee, FL

#120480 Jan 4, 2014
The_Box wrote:
<quoted text>
Empty response. Jesus failed the Messianic prophecies.
You should change your moniker to 'Crackerjacks Box" as that is obviously where you are getting your misinformation from.

Since: Apr 08

Nottingham, UK

#120481 Jan 4, 2014
SevenT wrote:
<quoted text>
Yes morality is Judeo Christian morality only as found in the Holy Bible. It is the originator of all morality and is the oldest. If an atheist had morals they would adopt Judeo-Christian morals. It really doesn't matter if the atheist acknowledges this fact or not.
BTW all other religions (including atheism) are using Biblical principles if they have morality or ethics in their religion.
Morality comes from you.

Pat Condell says it much better than I can....

Religious people often say that atheists have no morals because they have no moral guide. If you believe this, let me ask you something.

If you're a Christian, chances are the Bible is your moral guide, but is that all the Bible, or just some of it? It's just the good bits, isn't it? The bits you've cherry-picked because obviously if you wanted to live in a Leviticus-style society where people are stoned or mutilated for insane and trivial reasons, you could simply move to Iran.

But how do you decide which are the good bits and which are the bad in the Bible? What do you use as a moral guide? The Bible? Well, surely not. If so, you would simply accept the bad along with the good, which is clearly what the Bible wants you to do, otherwise the bad wouldn't be in there in the first place, would it? But no, you don't do that. You defy the Bible. You sift out the bad and discard it for the ignorant primitive barbarism it is. In short, you edit the Bible to suit your own sensibilities.

So where do you get the moral guidance to impose your authority on the word of the Bible? It has to come from a higher source, doesn't it?(These things usually do.) And it does, of course. It comes from you. You are a higher source than the Bible, a much higher source.

The criminals who run religion don't want you to know or to act upon this because then their influence over you would be zero. Yet the evidence is clear. You sifted the good from the bad in the Bible without the Bible's help. You did it against the Bible's will, and you did it all on your own because, whether you like it or not, you have a conscience, which means that you are capable of distinguishing good from evil without the help of scripture, and you have just proven it beyond any shadow of doubt.

So, in fact, the Bible is not your moral guide. You are. It doesn't provide you with a moral compass. You do. And the only faith you need is faith in yourself.

O happy day.

Since: Apr 08

Nottingham, UK

#120482 Jan 4, 2014
Curious wrote:
<quoted text>
You and Dukett are well known for quoting the Bible based on your foolish and biased interpretations
Search the web , where those who are much more knowledgeable will explain and put what was stated in Numbers 23;19 and Genesis 6;6 in proper perspective.
Fact: Genesis says that God repented and Numbers says that God doesn't repent.

Fact: That's a contradiction.

Since: Apr 08

Nottingham, UK

#120483 Jan 4, 2014
Curious wrote:
<quoted text>
You probably are among those who believe domestic violence shoud be condoned.
Bullies believe that they have free license to abuse others and should not be subjected to any
type of response in return.
I have already stated my position on that issue ,as you well know.
Proceed at your own risk.
You don't condone domestic violence?

Are you absolutely sure about that?

Not at all?

Clearly there's nothing in the OT where God advocates domestic violence.

Otherwise, like genocide, you'd be defending it.

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