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Bible study rules for public schools proposed

There are 148352 comments on the The Courier-Journal story from Feb 10, 2010, titled Bible study rules for public schools proposed. In it, The Courier-Journal reports that:

FRANKFORT, Ky. - The state would create rules for teaching about the Bible in public high schools under a bill filed Monday by three Democratic senators.

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#120295 Jan 1, 2014
SistaNoneYa wrote:
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New Years resolution for you-
You will try to stop projecting your OWN stupidity onto others.
That ought to keep you infinitly busy!!
Another empty response.

How does it feel to have to pretend half of your holy book doesn't exist?

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#120296 Jan 1, 2014
SevenT wrote:
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Throughout history Christians have been persecuted all over the world. It continues today
In 2013 you go into a muslim country like Syria or Saudi Arabia and preach the gospel you will be thrown into prison.
In 2013 it is illegal to be a Christian in North Korea or China.
These are undeniable facts. Yes in the US we are safe because we have freedom of religion.
Nothing in the bible is consistent with freedom of religion.
We have freedom of religion in America, in spite of the bibles writings, and in spite of Christianity.
The bible prophesies of the day when Jesus will return and end religious freedom......with the sword.

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#120297 Jan 1, 2014
SevenT wrote:
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Psalm 14:1
The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God. They are corrupt, they have done abominable works, there is none that doeth good.
And this is probably why Christians hate non believers and war with them.
If the bible were of a god, a moral god, why would such a hateful claim be in his holy book?
It is the stuff, intolerance is built upon.

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#120298 Jan 1, 2014
SevenT wrote:
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Nice try, and athiest has no foundation belief system therefore they are amoral.
An atheist often (probably too stupid to even know) adopt society morals which are in fact Judeo Christian morals.
You see the irony an atheist claims to be moral but the standard of morals are the Biblical Judeo Christian morals.
Pretty funny stuff if you ask me
The atheist refuses to have a standard so they adopt a Biblical standard of morality.
Still waiting to hear what morals are Judeo Christian?

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#120299 Jan 1, 2014
SistaNoneYa wrote:
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Absolutely not.
Jihadism IS based upon tenets of extreme religion-of PSYCHOPATHS.
Christianity and Islam was built upon the tenets of Judaism.
Moses was a psychopath and the tenents he put forth are the foundation of Jihad.
You, know, the tenents like Deuteronomy 13. It is textbook Jihad.
spaceship

Rancho Cordova, CA

#120300 Jan 1, 2014
SevenT wrote:
<quoted text>Nice try, and athiest has no foundation belief system therefore they are amoral.

The atheist refuses to have a standard so they adopt a Biblical standard of morality.
Seven T would like to see a slave class and eliminate minumin wage laws so he can pay only a dollar per hour for labor. I see he adopted the biblical standards of morality.
Curious

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#120301 Jan 1, 2014
Khatru wrote:
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If I'm guilty of side-stepping anything, it's your assertion that the origin of the cosmos/universe/multiverse is limited to one of two possibilities dictated by you.
Well , I have presented what I believe are the 2 possibilities that I deem to be possible.
You , lodi and Dukett have the opportunity to present whatever other alternatives you believe to be viable. In no way are you limited to the 2 possibilities that I have described.
So ,go ahead and do so. What's holding you up?
Stop providing excuses and start providing reasons for your beliefs.
A belief is not worth having ,if one is unwilling and unable to defend it.
If you claim that you don't know the origins of the Universe and life , then, it is irrational to claim that you know that God is not the responsible agent.
State your case ,or, forever hold your peace..........
Curious

Winter Garden, FL

#120302 Jan 1, 2014
Mike Duquette wrote:
<quoted text>Did I ever claim how the universe was created? Nope. Then by the standard you set for yourself, I need not give anything to you for my reasons, or evidence.
Atheism is not a belief in how the universe was created.
No , you haven't claimed how life or the Universe were created.
What you believe is, that God is not the creating agent,that there is no ID.
On the other hand , you are quite unable to explain how these events might have occured by natural means,therefore your refusal to address the issue by claiming that you do not have to do so. That is a lame excuse.
The answer to the problem ,is not that you don't have to do so, the answer is the fact that you are unable to do so.
There is a huge difference between not having to do something ,as opposed to the inability to do something....Let us not get the 2 confused
Curious

Winter Garden, FL

#120303 Jan 1, 2014
Mike Duquette wrote:
<quoted text>Christianity and Islam was built upon the tenets of Judaism.
Moses was a psychopath and the tenents he put forth are the foundation of Jihad.
You, know, the tenents like Deuteronomy 13. It is textbook Jihad.
Dukett ,correct me if I am wrong.
Have you not stated that Moses is a mythical character ,that there is no evidence that he ever existed . therefore ,how can you claim that someone whom you believe never existed is a psychopath.
I do believe that points to mental debilitation on your part .
You claim not to believe in God ,yet accuse HIM of being a tyrant blablahblah.
Madelyn O'hairs genes must flow threw your veins , she also claimed not to believe in God,but was constantly cursing His name , that, according to her son.
Hitchens was also challenged on the same issues.
Seems Atheists have some detrimental mental issues that they refuse to admit to.
Anyhow , that is according to Stan Rosch , one of your fellow Atheists

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#120304 Jan 1, 2014
Curious wrote:
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No , you haven't claimed how life or the Universe were created.
What you believe is, that God is not the creating agent,that there is no ID.
On the other hand , you are quite unable to explain how these events might have occured by natural means,therefore your refusal to address the issue by claiming that you do not have to do so. That is a lame excuse.
The answer to the problem ,is not that you don't have to do so, the answer is the fact that you are unable to do so.
There is a huge difference between not having to do something ,as opposed to the inability to do something....Let us not get the 2 confused
Just as you are unable to tell us how your god created the universe, or even came to be.

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#120305 Jan 1, 2014
Curious wrote:
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Have you not stated that Moses is a mythical character ,that there is no evidence that he ever existed . therefore ,how can you claim that someone whom you believe never existed is a psychopath.
Hannibal Lecter is a psychopath. He is also a fictional character. What's the issue?

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#120306 Jan 1, 2014
The_Box wrote:
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It's an infinitely more reasonable answer than "resurrection".
Or maybe he was carried out. Or maybe the entire story of him not being where it was said he was, is entirely made up. All more reasonable answers than resurrection.

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#120307 Jan 1, 2014
Curious wrote:
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Dukett ,correct me if I am wrong.
Have you not stated that Moses is a mythical character ,that there is no evidence that he ever existed . therefore ,how can you claim that someone whom you believe never existed is a psychopath.
I do believe that points to mental debilitation on your part .
You claim not to believe in God ,yet accuse HIM of being a tyrant blablahblah.
Madelyn O'hairs genes must flow threw your veins , she also claimed not to believe in God,but was constantly cursing His name , that, according to her son.
Hitchens was also challenged on the same issues.
Seems Atheists have some detrimental mental issues that they refuse to admit to.
Anyhow , that is according to Stan Rotsch , one of your fellow Atheists
Nope, not what I said at all. It is possible the Moses is a complete fabrication, but more likely it has a few grains of truth as all myths do.
The description of Moses paints the picture of a psychopath, yearning for absolute power.
I put this Moses alongside the likes of Hitler, Genghis Khan and Saddam Hussein.

As I say with the god debate, it matters not if he is real, it matters that people believe in him and do wrong due the beliefs. How many times must I explain this simple concept?

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#120308 Jan 1, 2014
SistaNoneYa wrote:
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Moses (the mortal General of the era) shortened and simplified the pre-exisitng ones, so DUHMMIEs could have an easier easier time comprehending.
Kind of like the Virginia Declaration of rights's influence over TJ when writing the Declarration of Independence.
And just because there's mention of no bread or water-doesn't mean there wasn't, or no berries or goat milk either.
Do you believe everything you're "told"?
Even Curious mustered up the moral will to admit a wrong. Can you do it?

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Cambridge, UK

#120309 Jan 1, 2014
SevenT wrote:
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I will bet you a large percentage were at the very bottom of the socio-economic ladder when they were arrested, convicted and thrown in prison and found Jesus while in Prison. Prison Ministry is one of the most amazing untold success stories in the American Penal System and all of Christianity. And those that do truly repent they are least likely to find their way back in prison. The transforming power of Christ is something only believers can understand.
Thank you for your post
What you bet and what is the reality are two quite different things.

Until you can provide evidence to support your assertion it remains unfounded and requires no evidence from me to dismiss it.

However, perhaps you should bear in mind that the population of the USA is still predominantly Christian. I've no idea what the ratio of Christian to Atheist is but if you take a cross section of any group of Americans (homeowners, people in work, car owners, prisoners, etc), it will be Christians that make up the majority.

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#120310 Jan 1, 2014
stuck in a lodi wrote:
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You do realize that Christians outnumber atheist or non believers don't you? So your first sentence is without merit! Here is that percentage you speak of........78% of the people in the U.S. consider themselves Christian or 'believers' while approx. 16% consider themselves non believers. The rest of your post has about as much weight as your first sentence.
Thank you for your inaccurate opinion!
Ah, I just said something similar but you beat me to it!

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#120311 Jan 1, 2014
Curious wrote:
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Well , it is true. You have posted that same excuse on numerous occassions , I didn't buy it then and i'm not buying it now.
And I'll tell you why.
You have been posting the same nonsensicam arguments long before I got here , probably right after this thread opened up.
What have you accomplished ? Nothing , by your own admission , you do not believe that you have deconverted anyone , therefore ,it is highly unlikely that you have changed anyone's mind , regarding their stance on whether Bible studies should be permitted in public Schools in Kentucky.
Of those who post on this thread , which are few in numbers , many don't even live in Kentucky.
So , why do you keep on posting? What are you accomplishing?
By any standard ,you have failed in your objectives , not only you,but also the other Atheists who post here.
You waste a large part of each day in accomplishing nothing. That makes no sense.
I believe there is another motive , which I have not hesitated to express in the past and which I expressesd in the post to which you responded.
Deep down in their subconsciousness, many Atheists have serious doubts about their unbelief.
That would explain why many attend religious services on a regular basis , that would explain why 10% of Atheists claim to believe in a God , 8% believe in a heaven and why Atheists are organizing churches based on Christian tradition.
You can deny it , in the same manner that Atheists deny the problem of Suicide and depression that afflicts their community ,Nevertheless , denial of the facts does not invalidate the truth contained therein.
So you compute the reasons I give for debating god, yet you still insist their are no other reasons possible?
First, you factored in some false information, which I have corrected you on several times, yet you do not compute. I never claimed, I converted no one. I claimed, I do not know if I converted anyone. So my efforts are UNKNOWN. I guess I have to capitalize for you to comprehend.
So the basis for your conclusions are on a foundation of lies built in your delusional mind.

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#120312 Jan 1, 2014
Should have said, the RESULTS of my efforts are unknown.

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Cambridge, UK

#120313 Jan 1, 2014
Mike Duquette wrote:
<quoted text>Nice to see.
That deserves a happy New Years.
He apologised to me once when he admitted he was wrong about Freud being committed to an asylum.

He gets kudos for that.

Since: Apr 08

Cambridge, UK

#120314 Jan 1, 2014
SevenT wrote:
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You do realize you are judging this Geldof fellow by Judeo Christian standards of right and wrong and good and bad.
Just answer the question please.

Or is this going to be yet another question that you run away from?

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