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Bible study rules for public schools proposed

There are 164843 comments on the The Courier-Journal story from Feb 10, 2010, titled Bible study rules for public schools proposed. In it, The Courier-Journal reports that:

FRANKFORT, Ky. - The state would create rules for teaching about the Bible in public high schools under a bill filed Monday by three Democratic senators.

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“Breaking the spell ”

Since: Dec 10

of the puppet master

#119969 Dec 30, 2013
SevenT wrote:
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Does that mean you have Faith in your history books and stats?
I have more faith in them than your bible. At least they do not make outrageous claims that have zero corroboration. Their is much evidence to show the German people were Christian. To deny it is akin to denying the holocaust. Just look at all the pre war Christian churches in Germany. They are all over the place. I was stationed there in the army.
The German people are still majority Christian. There was no mass conversions after the war. But their sure is a lot less Jewish people in Germany now.

“Breaking the spell ”

Since: Dec 10

of the puppet master

#119970 Dec 30, 2013
SevenT wrote:
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There are plenty of cultural Christians
Not sure exactly what you mean by this, or what it matters?
Most Christians are Christians due to their culture, just as anyone of any religion is. Just as I am sure your Culture is of Christianity. You clearly did not just pick your god because you feel he is moral. We can see evidence of this in the post I responded to about a half hour ago. You feel your cultural god is moral, no matter what he did or does.

“Breaking the spell ”

Since: Dec 10

of the puppet master

#119971 Dec 30, 2013
SevenT wrote:
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I know I have lots of Jewish friends and they are very stiff necked about Jesus.
You call that an answer? Stiff necked? Are you stiff necked about Mohammed?
Fact is, one typically believes in the god of his culture, do you? They are highly likely to be stiff necked about all other gods. It is why there has been holy wars for all of human history.
Your god claims anyone who follows the god of their culture, and it happens not to be of the Christian culture, they are doomed to eternal torture.
Sorry, but this is the dumbest and most immoral concept I can imagine.

“Breaking the spell ”

Since: Dec 10

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#119972 Dec 30, 2013
SevenT wrote:
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OK whatever you say there Pal I think you have lost your mind.
My advice to you is reach over to your left and hit the "nurse call' button. When the nurse gets there ask her to loosen the straps and up your psycho medication right away. Also you may want to ask her to give you a bath and change your bedsheets.
So because someone points out how your god put the devil on earth, you call him crazy? The bible story is crazy, and contradicts logic and reason. And your dismissal of criticism with no logical reasons shows just how flawed your beliefs are.

“Breaking the spell ”

Since: Dec 10

of the puppet master

#119973 Dec 30, 2013
Curious wrote:
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It is obvious that you received your limited education by attending Ignorant U.
As is customary , you choose deception and intentional misleading as your MO.
You have read , where it is clearly stated , It is not God's desire that any be lost,
and when asked by his disciples , Lord , whom then can be saved? and Jesus replied
What is impossible to man is possible to God.
I am sure you have read it , but , in keeping with your deceitful tactics in order to prey on unsuspecting victims in order to deconvert them , that is information that you will and have intentionally omitted in order to promote your faith.
Faith by deceit is a dishonorable goal of which you seem very proud.....
If god really wished for Anne Frank to chose Jesus, maybe he should have proved he was a real god and done something to stop the German Jesus followers from torturing and killing all her people.
But your god did nothing. He answered no prayers. It is as if the whole story is just a fabrication.

“Breaking the spell ”

Since: Dec 10

of the puppet master

#119974 Dec 30, 2013
SevenT wrote:
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It really doesn't matter now does it. Prior to Christ Man invented all sorts of gods. Go ahead and choose what you want to follow. But I always remind unbelievers please remember one thing we can not both be Right. We can both be Wrong but we can not both be Right.
And many gods were invented after your Jesus.
No, we cannot all be correct. "known fact" claims your church is false. Catholics claim your church is false. Mormons claim your church is false. Muslims claim your church is false. Hindu's claim your church is false. They all believe theirs is the one true church. And this concept causes much holy war and strife. No god comes down to settle the disputes. He just lets the wars go on and on. You guys keep claiming he is coming, but of course it never happens. It is an empty promise.
It is clear to me, they are all fabricated stories. I could be wrong, but evidence does not show you are correct.
Curious

Winter Garden, FL

#119975 Dec 30, 2013
aWitchintheWoods wrote:
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You aren't worth wasting keystrokes on.
LOL
I understand your concern and fear , yet you continue responding to what I post.
All indications point to Stak Rosch being correct in his assesment of the problems afflicting the Atheist Community.

Problems that he rightfully claims Atheists will not address and refuse to acknowledge.
It is obvious , simply by observing the behaviour of Atheists on this thread , that they have mental problems.
1) You deny the existence of God
2) You deny the Christ
3) You deny there is a heaven
4) You deny there is a hell

Though you claim that you don't believe in the aforementioned , you dedicate volumes of your daily life addressing those issues that you do not believe in.
Why should such behaviour not be correctly described as mental instability?
Why are Atheists so obsessed with that which they claim not to believe in?
Why haven't Atheists authored a book called The Santa Claus Delusion or The Unicorn Delusion?
There was a time when I doubted the existence of God ,but I did not waste my time debating that which I did not believe in.
Things have changed , I now believe in God and have no problem talking about the GOD I BELIEVE IN.
Most assuredly , I will not dedicate a large or any part of my each and every day to discussing the nonexistence of Zeus , Thor , Jupiter or some other mythical character as Atheists do in their search for that in which they claim not to believe in.
To do so ,would indicate to me , that I may be coming mentally unglued, or that ,I am not truly convinced of their nonexistence and am searching for the truth.
As you know , Atheists have started churches ,imitating much of what is practiced by believers.
As it turns out ,a large number of Atheists attend religious services on a weekly basis,
as I remember , a recent study indicated that 10% of Atheists believe in God and 8% believe there is a heaven.
No doubt , at one time , they felt as the Atheists on this thread do , they denied God , Christ etal and never stopped debating that which they claimed not to believe in,relying on the same excuses as you do , until they arrived at the truth.
Now ,no doubt, they continue debating God ,but, from a totally different perspective
Curious

Winter Garden, FL

#119976 Dec 30, 2013
Mike Duquette wrote:
<quoted text>Is some atheist claiming we are "on the same footing as cockroaches"? Or is this what you feel is the case if we are both just a product of evolution?
You feel we are both a product of god, so does that not put us on the same footing in the same sense? Not that I feel we are on the same footing at all.
If you chose not to believe we are related to apes, fine, but it sure looks as if we are. Going by the DNA alone shows we are related. Just as DNA can show who your brother and sisters are, DNA can show what other species are related. Either that, or god is trying to fool us into believing in evolution by making the DNA follow this pattern.
Well now , If all life came into being as the result of some unexplained accident caused by some mindless ,unguided process , as Atheists believe , then , we are all on the same footing , humans ,cockroaches ,snakes and monkeys etal.
But , those of us who believe in God believ He that He that created all life, declared mankind to be superior to all living species on Earth.
So no, we don't believe that some single cell , self created itself and by duplicating itself ,is responsible for the creation of all species.
That magic trick has not ever been witnessed or duplicated , in spite of the many efforts of Science.
They do not have the slightest clue as to how that event may have occured , as you well know....... And as I have pointed out to you repeatedly.......
Again I ask , Give me your version as to how life , intelligence and consciousness originated?

“Speaker of Mountain Wisdom....”

Since: Jan 10

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#119977 Dec 30, 2013
Curious wrote:
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Well now , If all life came into being as the result of some unexplained accident caused by some mindless ,unguided process , as Atheists believe , then , we are all on the same footing , humans ,cockroaches ,snakes and monkeys etal.
But , those of us who believe in God believ He that He that created all life, declared mankind to be superior to all living species on Earth.
So no, we don't believe that some single cell , self created itself and by duplicating itself ,is responsible for the creation of all species.
That magic trick has not ever been witnessed or duplicated , in spite of the many efforts of Science.
They do not have the slightest clue as to how that event may have occured , as you well know....... And as I have pointed out to you repeatedly.......
Again I ask , Give me your version as to how life , intelligence and consciousness originated?
And that is what is called Human Ego run Amuck... You summed it up well you are of the view that humans are Superior and a God created the Universe for mankind to look at and enjoy... Then the next Ego trip is that Your Religion is superior to those other religions that are false ..... Then the next step is You are superior to all who disagree with your views...

Total arrogance and self importance on full display...

Since: Sep 13

United States of America

#119978 Dec 30, 2013
SistaNoneYa wrote:
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You ever tried to chisel anything in stone?
Others might find it to represent some pretty good time management. And for all the modern day world REALLY knows, General Moses may have also been charting further battle strategies, in between chiseling.
LOL This is the best you can come up with?

Which bible are you following?.... most bibles read as god writing the commandments, is it your opinion Moses wrote them, or are you making excuses for your supreme being as if he's human?

The bible also states that in those 40 days and nights Moses went without eating bread or drinking water....

Since: Sep 13

United States of America

#119979 Dec 30, 2013
One more thing to think about...... After investing 40 days and nights into the creation of the ten commandments, Moses breaks them into tiny pieces in a blink of an eye.... now with the MO of god , I'm sure he was beside himself with rage of Moses' actions, yet not one mention of this in the bible. As if that wasn't enough, Moses then orders the execution of thousands of men women and children w/out god's approval.....not one mention of god's wrath of this episode either.

“Breaking the spell ”

Since: Dec 10

of the puppet master

#119984 Dec 30, 2013
Curious wrote:
<quoted text>
LOL
I understand your concern and fear , yet you continue responding to what I post.
All indications point to Stak Rosch being correct in his assesment of the problems afflicting the Atheist Community.
Problems that he rightfully claims Atheists will not address and refuse to acknowledge.
It is obvious , simply by observing the behaviour of Atheists on this thread , that they have mental problems.
1) You deny the existence of God
2) You deny the Christ
3) You deny there is a heaven
4) You deny there is a hell
Though you claim that you don't believe in the aforementioned , you dedicate volumes of your daily life addressing those issues that you do not believe in.
Why should such behaviour not be correctly described as mental instability?
Why are Atheists so obsessed with that which they claim not to believe in?
Why haven't Atheists authored a book called The Santa Claus Delusion or The Unicorn Delusion?
There was a time when I doubted the existence of God ,but I did not waste my time debating that which I did not believe in.
Things have changed , I now believe in God and have no problem talking about the GOD I BELIEVE IN.
Most assuredly , I will not dedicate a large or any part of my each and every day to discussing the nonexistence of Zeus , Thor , Jupiter or some other mythical character as Atheists do in their search for that in which they claim not to believe in.
To do so ,would indicate to me , that I may be coming mentally unglued, or that ,I am not truly convinced of their nonexistence and am searching for the truth.
As you know , Atheists have started churches ,imitating much of what is practiced by believers.
As it turns out ,a large number of Atheists attend religious services on a weekly basis,
as I remember , a recent study indicated that 10% of Atheists believe in God and 8% believe there is a heaven.
No doubt , at one time , they felt as the Atheists on this thread do , they denied God , Christ etal and never stopped debating that which they claimed not to believe in,relying on the same excuses as you do , until they arrived at the truth.
Now ,no doubt, they continue debating God ,but, from a totally different perspective
Their are no real problems with unicorn believers.God believers on the other hand are demanding the known sciences of the day to be removed from schools,insist the bible be taught on the government dime, and some even fly planes into buildings. Now if unicorn believers start doing these harmful things to society, I will speak more on that topic.

I have explained this many times to you, yet you still do not compute.

“Breaking the spell ”

Since: Dec 10

of the puppet master

#119987 Dec 30, 2013
SevenT wrote:
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Stick with the Bible it is all you need.
What kind of non answer is this? Why are you scared to answer straight forward questions? Guess your god is not real.

“Breaking the spell ”

Since: Dec 10

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#119988 Dec 30, 2013
SevenT wrote:
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Islam is a religion of lies and hate based upon hatred of the Jews. Islamists feel Esau was cheated out of the Israel by Jacob. Plus they claim Mohommed was the final prophet even though he lived 700 years after Christ. That means Mohommed is an Anti-Christ.
And I am sure Muslims say similar things about Christianity. Hence the many holy wars between the two.

“Breaking the spell ”

Since: Dec 10

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#119989 Dec 30, 2013
SevenT wrote:
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Islam is a religion of lies and hate based upon hatred of the Jews. Islamists feel Esau was cheated out of the Israel by Jacob. Plus they claim Mohommed was the final prophet even though he lived 700 years after Christ. That means Mohommed is an Anti-Christ.
And Jews say Jesus is not the one prophesied.
I think it should be clear most of us atheists think the bible is full of lies.

“Breaking the spell ”

Since: Dec 10

of the puppet master

#119990 Dec 30, 2013
SevenT wrote:
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No he is a Holy God
So you say, but cannot demonstrate. You failed to answer the simple questions.
You fail.

“Breaking the spell ”

Since: Dec 10

of the puppet master

#119991 Dec 30, 2013
SevenT wrote:
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WOW you claim to have all the answers. That is pretty arrogant.
Liar, I made no such claim. Do you have reading comprehension problems, or are you just a stone cold liar?
Is it against your religion to bear false witness?

“Breaking the spell ”

Since: Dec 10

of the puppet master

#119993 Dec 30, 2013
SevenT wrote:
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From the Book of Leveticus, remember the Jews used to sacrifice animals
Yes, the Jews had/have some barbaric beliefs also. And the Christian religion is all based upon it.
Many ancient religions had animal sacrifices, and some even said human sacrifice was needed. Yours is just one of many.
Now just how to determine which is of a real god?

Since: Sep 13

United States of America

#119994 Dec 30, 2013
When Moses was discussing the destruction of Sodom with god, he was trembling with fear when he questioned god's decision to destroy. Yet now.... Moses is taking the lead and making decisions on his Own. Why 2 sides of Moses and 2 personalities of god? In one instance, he's a god to be feared and in another, he can be overlooked like a footnote.

“Breaking the spell ”

Since: Dec 10

of the puppet master

#119998 Dec 30, 2013
Curious wrote:
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Well now , If all life came into being as the result of some unexplained accident caused by some mindless ,unguided process , as Atheists believe , then , we are all on the same footing , humans ,cockroaches ,snakes and monkeys etal.
But , those of us who believe in God believ He that He that created all life, declared mankind to be superior to all living species on Earth.
So no, we don't believe that some single cell , self created itself and by duplicating itself ,is responsible for the creation of all species.
That magic trick has not ever been witnessed or duplicated , in spite of the many efforts of Science.
They do not have the slightest clue as to how that event may have occured , as you well know....... And as I have pointed out to you repeatedly.......
Again I ask , Give me your version as to how life , intelligence and consciousness originated?
They(science) does have a clue of how it happened, but they cannot prove it absolutely. Sadly you do not know of what science knows or has a clue about.

But again, even if we evolved, it does not put us on the same footing in my book, maybe yours, but not mine.
Now when you say 'superior", in what ways? I know we are smarter, but clearly we are not superior in all ways. Most animals have better physical abilities than humans, thus 'superior" by definition.

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