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Bible study rules for public schools proposed

There are 143026 comments on the The Courier-Journal story from Feb 10, 2010, titled Bible study rules for public schools proposed. In it, The Courier-Journal reports that:

FRANKFORT, Ky. - The state would create rules for teaching about the Bible in public high schools under a bill filed Monday by three Democratic senators.

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curious

Ocoee, FL

#116605 Nov 8, 2013
stuck in a lodi wrote:
I beg to differ....only an ignoramus with your mentality qualifies one for the ignominious position of Village Idiot which would explain why you post articles from known crackpots.
It's funny really, you often go into some half-witted tangent about someone being a planters nut reject, yet here you are copying n pasting from a known rejected Nut!
The fact is that those whom I have claimed to be Planters Peanuts rejects have neither denied it or refuted my claims.
You and Khatru are part of that group.
The information provided in the Miles Mathis analysis is the issue in question. You and Khatru , unable to refute what was posted ,try to mask your inability to do so by posting ha hahs and other responses devoid of intellectual content , thereby providing further evidence to validate my allegation that "You both are Planters Peanuts rejects.
Show me , with facts , where the 2 opinions I posted are wrong.
If you or Khatru are unable to do so , then I will keep you in the bin of Peanut rejects ,feed you to the elephants and when I become aware of any village in need of an idiot , i WILL GLADLY SUBMIT YOUR NAMES.
curious

Ocoee, FL

#116606 Nov 8, 2013
Khatru wrote:
<quoted text>
Ah, there you are.
I asked you why you don't like me pointing out that you ignore what science says in favour of the bible.
You never answered.
Are you embarrassed having such crazy beliefs?
Would you like a hug?
No,I am proud of my beliefs and my God.
What would cause me to be embarassed is if I were of a simple mind and believed that some nonintelligent ,nonliving nonconscious , unexplainable force was responsible for my being alive, conscious and intelligent.
Those who believe that gibberish are ,no doubt, disciples of Timothy O'leary and under the influence of delusional mind altering drugs.

“I'll think about it.”

Since: Nov 07

central Florida

#116607 Nov 8, 2013
To paraphrase --

"Debating fundies on the topic of religion is rather like trying to play chess with a pigeon;it knocks the pieces over, craps on the board, and flies back to its flock to claim victory."

Curious is soooo that poopy pigeon.
LOL!

“I'll think about it.”

Since: Nov 07

central Florida

#116608 Nov 8, 2013
""Nothing further need be said" is the excuse given by the mentally malnourished when dealing with issues beyond their comprehension.
That is the type of mentality that qualifies one for the ignominious position of Village Idiot."
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Well, that is Yaa's position.("Tard!" is Yaa's preferred response.)
Thought you Christians stick together but I guess not.

Curious, on the other hand, just goes on and on with meaningless babble, trying to appear intelligent and hoping no one will notice the foolishness of what he is saying.

Since: Apr 08

Nottingham, UK

#116609 Nov 8, 2013
curious wrote:
<quoted text>
No,I am proud of my beliefs and my God.
What would cause me to be embarassed is if I were of a simple mind and believed that some nonintelligent ,nonliving nonconscious , unexplainable force was responsible for my being alive, conscious and intelligent.
Those who believe that gibberish are ,no doubt, disciples of Timothy O'leary and under the influence of delusional mind altering drugs.
So, once again you readily admit to ignoring science in favour of what the bible says.
SistaNoneYa

London, KY

#116610 Nov 8, 2013
PigBenis wrote:
<quoted text>
At what point did I use atheism as an excuse for not having ethics? Nevermind that I have plenty. Your prejudice is swift and baseless. All atheists are not the same, just as all Christians are not the same. You know me as well as a ten-ton banana.
You asked me a question, I gave you a straight forward, honest answer...
again-in my opinion- atheism is NO excuse for not having ethics, morality, decency etc etc.

Then YOU proceeded to go ILLogical, because I NEVER said all atheist were the same, just as consistantly as I haev stated (over and over) not all Christians should be LUMPED and LableDUHMED as "all the same".

Because BOTH of thise scenarios are just representative of nothing BUT abject, outright IGNORANCE.

And IGNORANCE is NO excuse in my book either.

And your OWN prejudice and ignorance is blatantly obvious, or you would've had no problem, in comprehending a simple, single lined, actually ethical honest answer, with OUT having to attack, TWIST and DISTORT it, to childish, kindergarten-level stupidity.

And I never claimed to know you either-who in their right mind would claim to "know" anyone-just from postings on some internet dump thread.
curious

Ocoee, FL

#116611 Nov 8, 2013
aWitchintheWoods wrote:
To paraphrase --
"Debating fundies on the topic of religion is rather like trying to play chess with a pigeon;it knocks the pieces over, craps on the board, and flies back to its flock to claim victory."
Curious is soooo that poopy pigeon.
LOL!
Well ,Witchetty, I don't know if you are familiar with the latest Scientific Studies.
Turns out that pigeon poop contains more intelligence than the brain cells of an Atheist
The creator of pigeon poop is alive,conscious and at least ,semiintelligent.
Atheists,by their own admission ,claim their iintelligence emanated ,from the nonlivimg, nonintelliogent and nonconscious.
In order to judge which is better equipped , one need only look at the source.
Moreover , experiments conducted revealed that if you transplanted a birdbrain into the head of an Atheist , the Atheist could only fly backwards.
In your case ,it would be your broom. As if you didn't already have enough problems,

“Breaking the spell ”

Since: Dec 10

of the puppet master

#116612 Nov 8, 2013
Lost and found wrote:
Here is some news for you no matter what you create life to be without God. God is still in control. If you don't want children discouraged be careful the behaviour you are teaching them. Don't lie to them to pass it on. Give them truth.
Obedience is our gift to God- Respect and obey God!
Some people rather worship the government than God. Can you really say you know your father?
If we do not believe in a god, then it is not a lie to tell them so.

Here is some news for you, their is zero evidence a god controls anything. Seems more likely, no god controls.

“Breaking the spell ”

Since: Dec 10

of the puppet master

#116613 Nov 8, 2013
curious wrote:
<quoted text>
If I want a Scientific view on God ,Science by it's own admission ,is unable to provide one. It has eunuchized itself by it's own design.
If I want a Scientific view on the origins of life i get contradictory responses .
On the one hand Science claims that only life can create life.
On the other hand , Science claims that Life does not need a creator , therefore , no need to invoke God as creator.
However , in order to prove their theory that ID is not needed , they constantly spend countless hours using their intelligence by devising experiments trying to create life.
Having no evidenced to support the theory that life arose by natural means , they attempt to create life by using intelligent means , which they claim are not needed to create life.
That contradiction is rather difficult to explain.
So , calling on Science to explain what it is unable to explain
seems to be an exercise in futility ,somewhat akin to asking the village idiot to intelligently address that issue.
That is the same results I get , when the Atheists respond to what I post. Excuses ,nonsense and gibberish because they are unable to discern between that which is natural and the supernatural.
However ,what you choose to believe is your business ,why you choose to believe as you do ,is your business.
You keep looking To Science to provide you with an answer that Science itself says it is unable and incapable of providing.
If Science claims it can not provide the answer , then only a fool would continue looking for an answer where none can be found.
I looked elsewhere and found my answer.
That you refuse to accept the amswer that I have arrived at as valid in no way takes away from it's validity.
I do not base my faith on your opinions AND none of you have provided any evidence that would cause me to question my faith.
My faith is based partly on criteria that reasonably explains who created life and the other part being criteria that I have tested
and found to be completely reliable.
It is not based on "I don't know ,I can't explain it or in waiting for Science to explain what it states it is unable to do.
Lying again to promote your myth? You lie about what science actually says. This may have been written in your religious propaganda, but not in actual science. Learn the facts. It is embarrassing watching you flounder this bad.

“Breaking the spell ”

Since: Dec 10

of the puppet master

#116614 Nov 8, 2013
SistaNoneYa wrote:
<quoted text>
Okay, and I repeat-
Physics.
Repeat it all you wish, there is no correlation between a god and physics.
curious

Ocoee, FL

#116615 Nov 8, 2013
Mike Duquette wrote:
<quoted text>If we do not believe in a god, then it is not a lie to tell them so.
Here is some news for you, their is zero evidence a god controls anything. Seems more likely, no god controls.
And you can show NO EVIDENCE that would indicate God does not exist , or that God is not in control.
You are limited to " seems more likely, no God controls"
Whereas we believe "That God is in control"

“Breaking the spell ”

Since: Dec 10

of the puppet master

#116616 Nov 8, 2013
SistaNoneYa wrote:
<quoted text>
Okay, and I repeat-
Physics.
At least you learned claiming a man made structure does not prove a god exists.
Now I see you are taking the lead of Curious. Now put your god into a gap.

“Breaking the spell ”

Since: Dec 10

of the puppet master

#116617 Nov 8, 2013
curious wrote:
<quoted text>
My God is not a theory ,He is a reality which Atheists fail to comprehend , at least,so they claim.
I will repeat again. It is impossible for nonintelligent ,nonliving ,nonconscious matter to attain the properties of life,intelligence and consciousness.
If you can find evidence to contradict what I have stated ,do so.
Science itself claims that ONLY life can create life. That is a Fact .
I do not need excuses ,theories or hypothesis in order to believe what is obvious.
Therefore ,since only life can create life and since nonintelligence and nonconsciousness are totally incapable and totally unequipped to imagine ,let alone create those properties of which they know nothing ,of which they are totally unaware , which they have never experienced , it is beyond credulity ,that somehow they were able to attain them by their own nonpower
do you have any evidence to contradict what I have written.
The fact is that God is not your natural superior being.
He is Supernatural and theories and hypothesis based on natural means are incapable and totally and completely inadequate to prove or disprove his existence.
So , I do not rely on your theories ,hypothesis or opinions.
I base my comclusions partly on observing life and the world around me.
I know I exist ,am conscious and have intelligence ,just like you do. The question is ,how did those properties come into existence.
certainly could not and were not created by their complete opposite.
Therefore , any reasonable person can logically conclude that ID ie God is responsible.
Or,if I were an Atheist and could not explain these events , then I would need to concoct excuses for not being able to provide an answer.
I could claim that in a few billion years someone may figure it out or that we may never know the answer ,or make the contradictory statement that Science with it's ever increasing knowledge will be able to create life.
You can't have it both ways , on the one hand ,claim that life does not need a creator ,therefore there is no reason to believe in God and then Creating life to prove God is nonexistent.
Atheists are caught in an untenable position , how was life created , for which they can not provide an answer, only excuses and an" Idon't know and we may never know ,but maybe in a million years we will know" which is the wishful thinking foundation for your faith.
I do not ,nor will i base my faith on such an illconceived and excuses infested foundation.
But , to each his own....
God of the gap.
You cannot prove the claims you made about life, so why expect us to prove them wrong? The onus of evidence is upon he who claims. You are the one making claims that cannot be backed up with evidence.

“Breaking the spell ”

Since: Dec 10

of the puppet master

#116618 Nov 8, 2013
curious wrote:
<quoted text>
My God is not a theory ,He is a reality which Atheists fail to comprehend , at least,so they claim.
Who claimed this? Pathological liar.
If you cannot tell the truth in order to promote your religion, why would you expect us to believe the religion is true?
curious

Ocoee, FL

#116619 Nov 8, 2013
aWitchintheWoods wrote:
""Nothing further need be said" is the excuse given by the mentally malnourished when dealing with issues beyond their comprehension.
That is the type of mentality that qualifies one for the ignominious position of Village Idiot."
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Well, that is Yaa's position.("Tard!" is Yaa's preferred response.)
Thought you Christians stick together but I guess not.
Curious, on the other hand, just goes on and on with meaningless babble, trying to appear intelligent and hoping no one will notice the foolishness of what he is saying.
Well ,YAA and I may have a difference of opinion , whereas Yaa's prefeered response is "Tard" when referring to Atheists ,I believe you should be Tard and feathered.
My " Foolishness" is far superior to your "Wisdom" or lack thereof , therefore I have no need to proclaim myself as being Intelligent.

“Breaking the spell ”

Since: Dec 10

of the puppet master

#116620 Nov 8, 2013
curious wrote:
<quoted text>
And you can show NO EVIDENCE that would indicate God does not exist , or that God is not in control.
You are limited to " seems more likely, no God controls"
Whereas we believe "That God is in control"
I use words like "seems" because I am not a liar as you are.

One cannot really know in an absolute manner if a god could exist, so claiming absolutely either way is a blatant lie. You claim one way, and it is a lie to claim it as you do. You do not know, you "believe". Learn to tell the truth and use language properly, otherwise no one is going to be convinced your religion is of truth.

“Breaking the spell ”

Since: Dec 10

of the puppet master

#116621 Nov 8, 2013
curious wrote:
<quoted text>
If I took your examples seriously I'd wind up like many others who do.heavy drinking,drug abuse and with beau coup many mental difficulties.
The joke about all this is your total inability to deal with and explain how it may be possible for nonintelligence etal to design and create intelligence etal in light of the fact that it is not conscious of it's surroundings ,has no intelligence ,is incapable of having a thought and as Science has clearly established ,only life can create life.
In an effort to prove your point ,you cited Frank Krauss.
He threw you under the bus by not addressing how life may have been created and meekly admitting that he can not account for the creation of the Universe.
The only thing frank created was a savings account to deposit the royalties he will be receiving for his Science Fiction endeavour
Yet you seem so sure the claimed intelligent god is not in need of these rules. Your double standard betrays you.

Since: Sep 13

United States of America

#116622 Nov 8, 2013
His own Mother who was a Professor of Mathematics told him outright he was wrong, still he refused to listen to the voice of reason.
Miles pant-load Mathis is full of $hit and nuttier than squirrel poop.

As far as I read was the Name Miles Mathis, no need to read any further, his reputation far exceeds him.

As with Miles, you continue to post pure nonsense as well, so I can certainly see your admiration of one such as he. People usually refer back to someone they mentor for support.
Why should anyone try and refute your ramblings, we can't stop laughing long enough to do so.

“Breaking the spell ”

Since: Dec 10

of the puppet master

#116623 Nov 8, 2013
Khatru wrote:
<quoted text>
Please tell me what can possibly be positive about torturing people for all eternity.
If our penal system did that, you'd call it barbaric.
The god they worship is of double standards. It is clear all the believers here have double standards. It is the flaw of religion, and it seems it infects most believers. Reason enough to forgo belief.

“Breaking the spell ”

Since: Dec 10

of the puppet master

#116624 Nov 8, 2013
curious wrote:
<quoted text>
You are floundering around like a fish out of water.
You stepped headlon g into the quicksand and are looking for an unexisting lifeline to save you.
Your nonsense Atheism has you boxed in and you can not get out.
I do not base my faith on hypotheticals as you do.
reported by mankato Free press
Kraussí fellow scientists at the dais, especially Frank Wilczek, expressed skepticism during the question-and-answer session about some of his far-reaching statements about a universe from nothing.
ďOnce you start talking about the laws being random or no laws at all, you really start from nothing at all, I think thatís going too far,Ē Wilczek said.ďI think itís really within a specific framework that you can discuss these things.Ē
Krauss didnít budge, at least not much. He admitted he couldnít explain how the universe came to be but said it was enough to show that itís possible that a universe can come from nothing.
Note; Possibilities abound ,there is only one REALITY.
Looks like you just changed your claims about Krauss. Can you not keep track of your lies?

I never claim Krauss had evidence of how the universe came to be, but he can show a possible way. You only asked for a possible way, because without other possibilities, you insisted in putting god into the gap of possibilities.

I guess all of this is to scientific for your religious mind to comprehend.

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