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Bible study rules for public schools proposed

There are 156562 comments on the The Courier-Journal story from Feb 10, 2010, titled Bible study rules for public schools proposed. In it, The Courier-Journal reports that:

FRANKFORT, Ky. - The state would create rules for teaching about the Bible in public high schools under a bill filed Monday by three Democratic senators.

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SistaNoneYa

Lexington, KY

#116648 Nov 8, 2013
Mike Duquette wrote:
<quoted text>At least you learned claiming a man made structure does not prove a god exists.
Now I see you are taking the lead of Curious. Now put your god into a gap.
Whilst mere, mortal men presented the "big bang" theory to civilization, I don't believe I would (or could) credit the same, as being the "creator"(s) of such.

Not in the forms that history has shown mere mortal men to exist as anyway.

Anything else..you need help.. with? Maybe a nice log in to an actually fundamentally sound library, with a repository of nice scientific type data?

Since: Sep 13

United States of America

#116650 Nov 8, 2013
atheists and secular people have very clear and pronounced values and beliefs concerning moral, political, and social issues. As Lynn Nelson
(1988, 134) has concluded, religiously unaffiliated people ‘‘have as well-defined a sense of social justice as weekly churchgoers.’’ But I would go farther. I would argue that a strong
case could be made that atheists and secular people actually posses a stronger or more ethical
sense of social justice than their religious peers. After all, when it comes to such issues as
the governmental use of torture or the death penalty, we see that atheists and secular
people are far more merciful and humane. When it comes to protecting the environment, women’s rights, and gay rights, the non-religious again distinguish themselves as being the most supportive. And as stated earlier, atheists and secular people are also the least likely to harbor ethnocentric, racist, or nationalistic attitudes. Strange then, that so many people assume that atheists and non-religious people lack strong values or ethical beliefs – a truly groundless and unsupportable assumption!

Since: Sep 13

United States of America

#116651 Nov 8, 2013
Lets discuss child-raising, consider the issue of corporal punishment – for example, spanking. Ellison and Sherkat (1993b) found that the less religious parents were, less likely to support the use of corporal punishment on children, and Douglas (2006) reports that approval of the spanking of children and slapping of teenagers is generally lower among more secular nations and higher among more religious nations,and
also lower among more secular regions within the USA than more religious regions, and of the 17 countries in the world that have actually outlawed the hitting of children, nearly all are among the most secular nations in the world, including Denmark, Sweden, and Bulgari.

Since: Sep 13

United States of America

#116652 Nov 8, 2013
A recent study by Edelman (2009) found that, when it comes to paying for on-line pornography, states with more secular populations have lower consumption rates than states with more religious populations; in fact, one of the most religious
states in the country, Utah, actually leads the nation in on-line pay-for-porn consumption. Finally, Rosenbaum (2009) found that teenagers who take religion-inspired ‘‘virginity pledges’’ are just as likely to engage in pre-marital sex as teenagers who don’t take such pledges, but it is the non-pledges who are more likely to protect themselves from pregnancy and disease when they have sex, which helps explain why STD infection
rates and teen pregnancy rates are lower in more secular nations compared with more religious nations.

“See how you are?”

Since: Jul 12

Earth

#116653 Nov 8, 2013
SistaNoneYa wrote:
<quoted text>
Whilst mere, mortal men presented the "big bang" theory to civilization, I don't believe I would (or could) credit the same, as being the "creator"(s) of such.
Not in the forms that history has shown mere mortal men to exist as anyway.
Anything else..you need help.. with? Maybe a nice log in to an actually fundamentally sound library, with a repository of nice scientific type data?
Your syntax reminds me of someone using freeware to translate literature from Hebrew to Aramaic to Greek to Latin to German to early modern English and then dressing up in what you hope is twenty first century American legalese doublespeak intelligentsia.
(Henceforth defined as "SistaPseudonese")

Since: Sep 13

United States of America

#116654 Nov 8, 2013
http://www.pitzer.edu/academics/faculty/zucke...

Here's the link if you wish to read this essay in it's entirety.

Since: Sep 13

United States of America

#116655 Nov 8, 2013
hhahahhahahaha Telephone interviews to determine if Atheist are obese. Talk about knee-slapping hilarious!
hahhhahahahhahahha.
hahhhahaha rolling on floor laughing my a$$ off.
honestly???? hahhahahahhaaahhhajajjajjajaja j
surely you jest.

Anyone else see the absurdity in that?
curious

Winter Garden, FL

#116656 Nov 8, 2013
stuck in a lodi wrote:
LOL It has suddenly occurred to me that I have such a profound affect on you Curious, that your very thoughts are completely consumed of me. That is why when a poster who is not recognized as a frequent commentator on this thread happens to pop in, you immediately assume it's me in disguise.
Such flattery......
It makes me all warm inside that you think of me this much.
Albeit, you're wrong. But it's still flattering.
That warmth that you feel is not due to my thinking of you , I'll leave that to your boyfriend.
That warm feeling is probably caused by your having wet your pants
SistaNoneYa

Lexington, KY

#116657 Nov 8, 2013
ChromiuMan wrote:
<quoted text>
Your syntax reminds me of someone using freeware to translate literature from Hebrew to Aramaic to Greek to Latin to German to early modern English and then dressing up in what you hope is twenty first century American legalese doublespeak intelligentsia.
(Henceforth defined as "SistaPseudonese")
It's a "native" thing.

Is your name Dukey too?

(hensefarth deefoined as "pass the coughtun bawls" fo' eya plugs and chromolio graffiti blinduhs plz!!)
curious

Winter Garden, FL

#116658 Nov 8, 2013
stuck in a lodi wrote:
lol Miles 'Pantload' Mathis
The internet's most notorious crackpot!
Nothing further need be said
let us look at what Christopher Hitchens has stated that he believes'
Hitchens is also famous for saying that
"My own view is that this planet is used as a penal colony, lunatic asylum and dumping ground by a superior civilization, to get rid of the undesirable and unfit. I can't prove it, but you can't disprove it either. It happens to be my view,

What does Hitchens mean when he talks about a Superior Civilization using the Earth as a dumping ground as a penal colony for the unfit and undesirable , that Earth is a lunatic asylum to which we have been sent by Superior beings who have judged us and found us wanting.
Does that mean these Superior beings are God's ,that have powers superior to ours , are unknown to us and have evaded our detection.
He has stated that these Supreme Beings have judged us and found us to be unfit to live in their world.
Their world being a far superior world than the one we have been condemmed to ,,,Kind of like their Heaven and Our hell.
And for this belief of his he states that he has no evidence to support it , Or as he Stated" I can't prove it and you can't disprove it"

His beliefs are a total contradiction to Atheistic Faith,
that man was created by natural means right here on Earth,
whereas Hitchens believes that humans were created by God's from
some unknown place , whom we can not see.


Is he being irrational in claiming Superior Beings judged us ,found us to be unworthy , and brought us here as punishment?
Or ,was he under the influence of Alcohol when he stated his beliefs in his book, after all , he did claim to have a huge drinking problem since his youth.
Why Atheists take this buffoon and hypocrite seriously shows their desperate need to have their baseless Faith justified.
Their Heroine of thed 1980's , Madylin Murray O'hair was another
buffoon , who having been unmasked for what she is , by her own son, is no longer mentioned in Atheist Circles.
either he was being irrational or he was drunk..Either way there is no reason to lend credence to anything he helieved in or wrote about.

That is ,unless you are an Atheist and have a desperate need,regardless of the means , to justify a Faith without foundation

“Breaking the spell ”

Since: Dec 10

of the puppet master

#116659 Nov 8, 2013
curious wrote:
<quoted text>
Your ignorance is confirmed by your postings and sre only fit as food for the elephants
Is that all you have to my sqashing all your points in one sentence?

<quoted text>Yet you seem so sure the claimed intelligent god is not in need of these rules. Your double standard betrays you.

“Breaking the spell ”

Since: Dec 10

of the puppet master

#116660 Nov 8, 2013
curious wrote:
<quoted text>
Your reputation as a dysfunctional nut has reached the offices of Planters Peanuts.
They have posted guards at all entrances to bar you and the other
Atheist malformed nuts for fear of contamination.
Moreover , The City zoo has sent out a memo that they will no longer accept "rejected nuts" to be fed to their elephants. Seems it causes mental diminishment among the herds.
Look, if you have no real rebuttal, just admit it like a man.
curious

Winter Garden, FL

#116661 Nov 8, 2013
stuck in a lodi wrote:
hhahahhahahaha Telephone interviews to determine if Atheist are obese. Talk about knee-slapping hilarious!
hahhhahahahhahahha.
hahhhahaha rolling on floor laughing my a$$ off.
honestly???? hahhahahahhaaahhhajajjajjajaja j
surely you jest.
Anyone else see the absurdity in that?
Christopher Hitchens wrote , in his book

"My own view is that this planet is used as a penal colony, lunatic asylum and dumping ground by a superior civilization, to get rid of the undesirable and unfit. I can't prove it, but you can't disprove it either. It happens to be my view,
Hitchens died on 15 December 2011, from complications arising from oesophageal cancer, a disease that he acknowledged was more than likely due to his lifelong predilection for heavy smoking and drinking
Hitchens admitted to drinking heavily; in 2003 he wrote that his daily intake of alcohol was enough "to kill or stun the average mule", arguing that many great writers "did some of their finest work when blotto, smashed, polluted, shitfaced, squiffy, whiffled, and three sheets to the wind."

So the Atheists have made him into a hero ,who represents their Faith.
He believes that humans were created by Superior Beings and dumped here in order to get rid of the undesirable and the unfit.
he believes that Earth is used as a penal colony and lunatic asylum
by these self same Superior Beings and claims that although he can not prove his claims ,neither can anyone disprove them.

To me ,it sounds like the irrational rantings of the Town Drunk and village idiot.
Of course , Atheists fail to see the absurdity of this Charlatan
curious

Winter Garden, FL

#116662 Nov 8, 2013
Mike Duquette wrote:
<quoted text>You can claim it is unreasonable all you wish. It is but your opinion of what is reasonable. I think it perfectly reasonable to not insert a god into a gap of knowledge. It was reasonable to do so with thunder and Thor and it is reasonable to do so now.
What you think is"perfectly reasonable" is determined by the Gap between your ears , which needs to be filled in by God ,

“Breaking the spell ”

Since: Dec 10

of the puppet master

#116663 Nov 8, 2013
curious wrote:
IS BEING AN ATHEIST BAD FOR YOUR HEALTH?
Beaconmist eaconapologetics
In my experience with atheists, I have found most of them to be unhappy individuals (not all, but most of my encounters). I have found them to be not only unhappy, but downright miserable when it comes to chat rooms or forum debates. I took a bit of time out for research and was somewhat surprised to find medical and psychological reports that were shocking. Here is some of what I found;
A Connection between Atheism and Suicide?
In 2004, the American Journal of Psychiatry had reported the following:
“Religiously unaffiliated subjects had significantly more lifetime suicide attempts and more first-degree relatives who committed suicide than subjects who endorsed a religious affiliation. Unaffiliated subjects were younger, less often married, less often had children, and had less contact with family members. Furthermore, subjects with no religious affiliation perceived fewer reasons for living, particularly fewer moral objections to suicide. In terms of clinical characteristics, religiously unaffiliated subjects had more lifetime impulsivity, aggression, and past substance use disorder. No differences in the level of subjective and objective depression, hopelessness, or stressful life events were found.
http://www.adherents.com reported the following in respect to Atheism and Suicide:
“Pitzer College sociologist Phil Zuckerman compiled country-by-country survey, polling and census numbers relating to atheism, agnosticism, disbelief in God and people who state they are non-religious or have no religious preference. These data were published in the chapter titled “Atheism: Contemporary Rates and Patterns” in The Cambridge Companion to Atheism, ed. by Michael Martin, Cambridge University Press: Cambridge, UK (2005). In examining various indicators of societal health, Zuckerman concludes about suicide:
“Concerning suicide rates, this is the one indicator of societal health in which religious nations fare much better than secular nations. According to the 2003 World Health Organization’s report on international male suicides rates (which compared 100 countries), of the top ten nations with the highest male suicide rates, all but one (Sri Lanka) are strongly irreligious nations with high levels of atheism. It is interesting to note, however, that of the top remaining nine nations leading the world in male suicide rates, all are former Soviet/Communist nations, such as Belarus, Ukraine, and Latvia. Of the bottom ten nations with the lowest male suicide rates, all are highly religious nations with statistically insignificant levels of organic atheism.”
A Connection between Atheism and Obesity?
“Results are based on telephone interviews conducted as part of the Gallup-Healthways Well-Being Index survey Jan. 2-July 28, 2010, with a random sample of 554,066 adults, aged 18 and older, living in all 50 U.S. states and the District of Columbia, selected using random-digit-dial sampling.”
“Very religious Americans make healthier choices than their moderately religious and nonreligious counterparts across all four of the Healthy Behavior Index metrics, including smoking, healthy eating, and regular exercise. Smoking is one area of particular differentiation between the very religious and less religious Americans, with the nonreligious 85% more likely to be smokers than those who are very religious.”
Christopher Hitchens died on 15 December 2011, from complications arising from oesophageal cancer, a disease that he acknowledged was more than likely due to his lifelong predilection for heavy smoking and drinking.
Cut and pasted straight from some religious web site, I have little doubt.
I wonder if suicide bombing were included? One horrible act only the religious do.

“Breaking the spell ”

Since: Dec 10

of the puppet master

#116664 Nov 8, 2013
SistaNoneYa wrote:
<quoted text>
If it all did begin around the time of the "big bang" (?) actually, yes there would be.
A huge one.
Do feel free to carry on with your self exaulted, hot air platitudes of narcissism however...Dukey.
Now tell us why you deduce, if it started then, it must be a god? Kind of taking a giant leap.
Automatically assigning a god has no validity. You are clearly assuming based upon dogma.

“Breaking the spell ”

Since: Dec 10

of the puppet master

#116665 Nov 8, 2013
curious wrote:
<quoted text>
What you think is"perfectly reasonable" is determined by the Gap between your ears , which needs to be filled in by God ,
Still got nothing?

<quoted text>You can claim it is unreasonable all you wish. It is but your opinion of what is reasonable. I think it perfectly reasonable to not insert a god into a gap of knowledge. It was reasonable to do so with thunder and Thor and it is reasonable to do so now.
Known Fact

Somerset, KY

#116666 Nov 8, 2013
Church rescue TV series.

http://www.sltrib.com/sltrib/lifestyle/570978...

If you don't trust the link then just Google it and it's there. Funny ship. Dumb ship but really funny ship.

I like boats.

.... It's just so big.

“Breaking the spell ”

Since: Dec 10

of the puppet master

#116667 Nov 8, 2013
curious wrote:
<quoted text>
Christopher Hitchens wrote , in his book
"My own view is that this planet is used as a penal colony, lunatic asylum and dumping ground by a superior civilization, to get rid of the undesirable and unfit. I can't prove it, but you can't disprove it either. It happens to be my view,
Hitchens died on 15 December 2011, from complications arising from oesophageal cancer, a disease that he acknowledged was more than likely due to his lifelong predilection for heavy smoking and drinking
Hitchens admitted to drinking heavily; in 2003 he wrote that his daily intake of alcohol was enough "to kill or stun the average mule", arguing that many great writers "did some of their finest work when blotto, smashed, polluted, shitfaced, squiffy, whiffled, and three sheets to the wind."
So the Atheists have made him into a hero ,who represents their Faith.
He believes that humans were created by Superior Beings and dumped here in order to get rid of the undesirable and the unfit.
he believes that Earth is used as a penal colony and lunatic asylum
by these self same Superior Beings and claims that although he can not prove his claims ,neither can anyone disprove them.
To me ,it sounds like the irrational rantings of the Town Drunk and village idiot.
Of course , Atheists fail to see the absurdity of this Charlatan
I think he was being sarcastic, as he often does to make a point, and he did make a great point.
One can insert any imaginative thing into a gap of knowledge. You do it, and claim to be sane, and serious.

Atheists no representative as you guys always do. We use our own mind. I disagree with many things Hitchens said.
Oh, and why are you still making up what we believe? Pathological.

“Breaking the spell ”

Since: Dec 10

of the puppet master

#116668 Nov 8, 2013
SistaNoneYa wrote:
<quoted text>
Whilst mere, mortal men presented the "big bang" theory to civilization, I don't believe I would (or could) credit the same, as being the "creator"(s) of such.
Not in the forms that history has shown mere mortal men to exist as anyway.
Anything else..you need help.. with? Maybe a nice log in to an actually fundamentally sound library, with a repository of nice scientific type data?
Now if you could only show a god had anything to do with it.
I am sure you and Curious would be claiming Thor is responsible for thunder if you lived in those times, as you are doing the same philosophically as they. Insert a god into a gap of knowledge.

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