Bible study rules for public schools proposed

Feb 10, 2010 Read more: The Courier-Journal 135,614

FRANKFORT, Ky. - The state would create rules for teaching about the Bible in public high schools under a bill filed Monday by three Democratic senators.

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“There is no god.”

Since: Jan 12

USA

#115746 Oct 28, 2013
Mike Duquette wrote:
<quoted text>Yes, the stories like this really teach no lessons for society other than the religion you follow is born of murder.
You can play it off on the supernatural, but it is not really an excuse, as no supernatural being killed or ordered the killing I speak of, Moses ordered the killing and the followers blindly did his bidding. They had absolute faith the god was giving the thumbs up for the killing, but of course no one could ever show evidence for that supernatural thumb.
My points stand, teaching killing is ok if god blesses it is not what should be in public schools.
Agreed, no holy book fairy tales should be taught in public schools.

Since: Feb 12

Roseville, CA

#115747 Oct 28, 2013
LOL in a suit wrote:
<quoted text>
Hi friend,
Did you move?
They can take our street corners for churches but they can never take our freewill.
Freeeeeewill.
Hi friend still here.... flying my spaceship... had a few repairs to make.

“There is no god.”

Since: Jan 12

USA

#115748 Oct 28, 2013
Ha, "bi-curious" thinks I care how the universe came to be and how life started on earth, Roflmao.

Like all religies "bi-curious" thinks an invisible sky critter waved a finger and poof there it is something from nothing, lol, how silly they are.

“There is no god.”

Since: Jan 12

USA

#115749 Oct 28, 2013
Did I mention there is no god.
curious

Ocoee, FL

#115750 Oct 28, 2013
Mike Duquette wrote:
<quoted text>Yes, the stories like this really teach no lessons for society other than the religion you follow is born of murder.
You can play it off on the supernatural, but it is not really an excuse, as no supernatural being killed or ordered the killing I speak of, Moses ordered the killing and the followers blindly did his bidding. They had absolute faith the god was giving the thumbs up for the killing, but of course no one could ever show evidence for that supernatural thumb.
My points stand, teaching killing is ok if god blesses it is not what should be in public schools.
If you would clarify for me;
Who has suggested that "killink is OK if God blesses it" should or will be taught in either public or Private Schools?

That certainly is not the teaching of Christ.....

“There is no god.”

Since: Jan 12

USA

#115751 Oct 28, 2013
Spaceship earth wrote:
<quoted text>
Hi friend still here.... flying my spaceship... had a few repairs to make.
Cool.

Good posts on social security that you made, just read them.

Since: Feb 12

Roseville, CA

#115752 Oct 28, 2013
LOL in a suit wrote:
Ha, "bi-curious" thinks I care how the universe came to be and how life started on earth, Roflmao.
Like all religies "bi-curious" thinks an invisible sky critter waved a finger and poof there it is something from nothing, lol, how silly they are.
Well said. Magic.
Known Fact

Somerset, KY

#115753 Oct 28, 2013
curious wrote:
<quoted text>
GWB , What does that have to with the topic that is being discussed?
But anyhow, since you brought it up.
One has the freedom to choose which master you will serve.
A small minority chooses Atheism as it's master.
Unfortunately , that proves to be an unfortunate choice ,as evidenced by the problems encountered by those who so chose.
Atheists are more prone to physical and mental ailments ,alcohol and drug addiction among others.
Recently a couple of Brits founded a church for Atheists.
By their own admission , they found that those who attend church on a regular basis are less likely to suffer from those afflictions and tend to lead happier lives.
Therefore , they founded their church by establishing many of the practices used by Christianity.
Worship will be on Sundays.
They will be a nonbelieving congregation but will intentionally deemphasize the religion of Atheism.
Seems to me, that when you start emulating that which is practiced by others,it is because you have a strong desire to be like them.
Strange turn of events within the Atheist Community , wouldn't you agree?
I would assume that,given time , a bible studies program will be instituted.
God works in mysterious ways...
You do know that the Atheist church is making fun of religion right? A place for people of like thinking to come together and have fun without being threatened with hell.

They sing Bon Jovi songs for Christ sakes. It is funny tho how quick it's growing once you take out all the lies and most of the idiots.

Since: Feb 12

Roseville, CA

#115754 Oct 28, 2013
LOL in a suit wrote:
<quoted text>
Cool.
Good posts on social security that you made, just read them.
Thanks

Since: Apr 08

Nottingham, UK

#115755 Oct 28, 2013
curious wrote:
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Yup , Those peaceloving Brits will long be remembered as The Good Samatitans of The New World.....NOT....
Britain, the 'nefarious trade' and slavery
Britain followed in the footsteps of the Portuguese in voyaging to the west coast of Africa and enslaving Africans. The British participation in what has come to be called the 'nefarious trade' was begun by Sir John Hawkins with the support and investment of Elizabeth I in 1573.(15) By fair means and foul, Britain outwitted its European rivals and became the premier trader in the enslaved from the seventeenth century onwards, and retained this position till 1807. Britain supplied enslaved African women, men and children to all European colonies in the Americas.
The 'Slave Coast' came to be dotted with European forts, their massive guns facing out to sea to warn off rival European slave traders. Each 'castle' incorporated prisons or 'barracoons' in which the enslaved women, children and men were kept, awaiting purchase by the traders, who could initially only reach the coast at those times of the year when the winds blew in the right direction. The prisons without sanitation, with little air must have been hell-holes in the humid coastal climates. The death rates are not known.
The trade became a very lucrative business. Bristol grew rich on it, then Liverpool. London also dealt in slaves as did some of the smaller British ports.(16) The specialised vessels were built in many British shipyards, but most were constructed in Liverpool. Laden with trade goods (guns and ammunition, rum, metal goods and cloth) they sailed to the 'Slave Coast', exchanged the goods for human beings, packed them into the vessels like sardines and sailed t than to keep one alive. Though seen as non-human, as many of the enslaved women were raped, clearly at one level they were recognised as at least rapeable human beings. There was no opprobrium attached to rape, torture, or to beating your slaves to death. The enslaved in the British colonies had no legal rights as they were not human they were not permitted to marry and couples and their children were often sold off separately.
Historian Paul Lovejoy has estimated that between 1701 and 1800 about 40 per cent of the approximately more than 6 million enslaved Africans were transported in British vessels.(It must be noted that this figure is believed by some to be a considerable underestimate.) Lovejoy estimated that well over 2 million more were exported between 1811 and 1867 again, many believe the numbers were much greater.(17)
Wow! Such outrage.

I trust you also feel the same sense of outrage when considering how your god instructed his followers to take slaves.

In fact, given that you acknowledge that slavery is so bad you must really hate your god for not ending it when he clearly had the power to do just that.

No doubt you seethe with rage when you realise that your god took the time and effort to issue instructions not to boil a kid goat in its mother's milk and how people must not wear mixed fabrics. Yet he completely failed to tell people not to keep slaves. That must make you really mad.

You see, one of the differences between you and me is that I freely acknowledge that slavery in the British Empire was a bad thing.

Yet when it comes to slavery under your god, it becomes wonderful and caring and an example of his transcendent love.

Let's also remember that the Brits ended slavery before the Americans did.

In fact, let's also remember how, inspired by the Bible, American christians were prepared to fight and die in their thousands for the right to keep slaves.
LOL

Columbus, OH

#115756 Oct 28, 2013
Khatru wrote:
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Brits ended slavery before the Americans did.
If only they could end their own buck teeth & bad hygiene.
SistaNoneYa

Somerset, KY

#115757 Oct 29, 2013
ChromiuMan wrote:
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There you go again with empty prattle, diverting with name calling and insults because you have precious little else.
Gave you a good base to quip back at, worm.
SistaNoneYa

Somerset, KY

#115758 Oct 29, 2013
Mike Duquette wrote:
<quoted text>My point is, the pleas for helping those people need not have anything to do with using god as a tool for donations.
The story being a personal experience changes nothing. Just as with the Moses tale, it matters not if it actually happened. The hypothetical is fine to debate. You refuse to discuss the moral of the stories. Thus your claims of the bible being good for this is useless here. Evidently the good book is not good enough to use as an example here.
I thought I mentioned it was an oganized Chsritian type ministry? Or did you just miss that part.

Be glad to show you proof-of postmarked airmailed envelopes and letters, nothing hypothetical at all abot them-just tangible reality.

But of course, you'd probably froth and foam and deny in your true atheistic non belief of nothingness, that thhose too, are not real...just as you're doing now (even after I gaev you MY interpretation of the perils of golden calf worshipping).
Deny, deny, deny--all you want ot Duquette. It doesn't change the reality of truth at all.
And BTW-"A quarter for the category Alex" -I've kept those rather intersting communication letters of lives of good works being done and actually existing humbly, from far away places-guess where....

(and the asnwer is NOT in a shoe box!)
SistaNoneYa

Somerset, KY

#115759 Oct 29, 2013
Mike Duquette wrote:
<quoted text>I know you are not about condemnation when atheists do it, but I have yet to see you object to any condemnation when it is of god, or the theists here. So really, I have no clear understanding of what your standards are. They at least appear to be of a double standard. Maybe if you had the balls to actually object to someone other than an atheist, we could take your standards as less than double.
Maybe if you took your fingers ourt of your eyesockets, and tried a little harder on reading comprehension....I woulnd't have to keep explaining these really simple concepts to you.
SistaNoneYa

Somerset, KY

#115760 Oct 29, 2013
Mike Duquette wrote:
<quoted text>And I note you only post this to atheists, and never point to a theist or the bible for doing this. A clear double standard.
DO you need a seeing eye interprator, or just a reader?
SistaNoneYa

Somerset, KY

#115761 Oct 29, 2013
Khatru wrote:
<quoted text>
The Christians and Jews are being murdered in the countries where religion has the greatest influence.
In this case, the religion is Islam.
In secular Islamic nations tolerance of other religions is a lot higher.
Rewind many years to when the christian religion held sway in the west and you'll have found the Jews and non-believers being persecuted unto death.
Israel, for one example, is documented though out history, to have been the "hot seat" of many "quests of conquer" as far back as the MacAbees.

And NOT over religion-but moreso over POLITICAL quests for ruling power, greed etc.

Just as it is NOW a days.

TRUTH-not distortions spewed to suit feed the sickness of ones own hatred against other beleifs.
SistaNoneYa

Somerset, KY

#115762 Oct 29, 2013
ChromiuMan wrote:
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It's the uber-logic of "I know you are and so am I" defense again, curious? The American pot calling the British kettle black? Tell me, why is the District of Columbia no longer a square?
A "square"?

Geeze lol.

(and just because it's not doesn't give your kind any of those there "speshull rights of exclusion from REALITY either!)
SistaNoneYa

Somerset, KY

#115763 Oct 29, 2013
ChromiuMan wrote:
<quoted text>
Yes curious, it is the modern Christians who rewrite history to suit their "consciences".
Don't try to claim that the Quakers in any way shared the attitudes of the Southern Baptists.
Personally, I think y'all could have dropped the tit-for-tat about conquistadors, communism, crusades, Nazis, inquisition, socialism, slavery, imperialism/colonialism, etc. a long time ago.
It wasn't atheism that did those things in Asia, and it wasn't Christianity that stole native Americans' lands, broke almost every treaty, slaughtered their food source and infected them with western European diseases. It was simply questing for acquisition and power over others. Not religion, not politics. Nothing more or less mysterious than human avarice and questing for domination and control, against which religions of any flavor have proven to be rather poor vaccines.
I don't get what's so damn difficult to understand about that FACT.
SistaNoneYa

Somerset, KY

#115764 Oct 29, 2013
Known Fact wrote:
<quoted text>
You do know that the Atheist church is making fun of religion right? A place for people of like thinking to come together and have fun without being threatened with hell.
They sing Bon Jovi songs for Christ sakes. It is funny tho how quick it's growing once you take out all the lies and most of the idiots.
Well now...theres a new concept...Karoke in the church of nothingness.

Does it just skip the former precepts of the more historically based orgs and go for the door cover charge instead of passing around a donation plate?

Who decides which muzac will American Idoltrylized for the week?

“See how you are?”

Since: Jul 12

Earth

#115765 Oct 29, 2013
SistaNoneYa wrote:
<quoted text>
I don't get what's so damn difficult to understand about that FACT.
I dunno. You can't ask SP since he got himself banned, but curious is still here. Run it by him.

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