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Bible study rules for public schools proposed

There are 148847 comments on the The Courier-Journal story from Feb 10, 2010, titled Bible study rules for public schools proposed. In it, The Courier-Journal reports that:

FRANKFORT, Ky. - The state would create rules for teaching about the Bible in public high schools under a bill filed Monday by three Democratic senators.

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non believer

Rancho Cordova, CA

#115788 Oct 29, 2013
Right wing christian extremist are trying to turn America into a Nazi fascist government.
curious

Winter Garden, FL

#115789 Oct 29, 2013
Khatru wrote:
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You've shown all of us your tortuous logic trail leading to your conclusion that our universe was magicked together by supernatural means.
Now you're claiming that it was just the one cosmic mega-being behind it all and not a consortium of them.
Where do you get that from?
You are the one claiming that it was a consortium of God's that created the Universe.
I disagree with that conclusion , however , it makes much more sense ,than your previously held ,inane,illogical ,nonsesical ,illconceived ,devoid of intellect and eunuchized belief thatNothing created something out of nothing ,thereby spontaneously creating the Universe and life as we know it.

Now ,another Brit atributes all this nonsense to the Law of Gravity.
This gibberish surpasses the bounds of magic , Science Fiction and indicates that said individual has become lost in the State of Insanity and is unable to find his way out.
In your travels ,if you happen to run into him , throw a net over him and turn him over to the British Psychiatric Association.
They have posted a reward for anyone who apprehends him.
just tell him you are taking him to the Atheist Church in London
where Bon Jovi will be performing..He will eat that right up,as have many other atheists. If you need more entertainment , call me.
I do a mean version of La Bamba.
para bailar a La bamba , se necesita una poca de gracia,
Pa mi y pa ti , arriba y arriba por ti sere,por tisere,porti sere,
Bamba, bamba ,bamba ,bamba.

“There is no god.”

Since: Jan 12

USA

#115790 Oct 29, 2013
Khatru wrote:
<quoted text>
No problem.
We'll do that after you lot stop tipping the scales as the world's fattest people.
Easy.

You may already know this but in the usa there is the bible belt. It is heavily populated with the religiously impaired. What I find interesting is the bible belt has the highest obesity per cap, highest in under educated people and the highest murder rate. I guess god needs fat stupid killers.

“Speaker of Mountain Wisdom....”

Since: Jan 10

London, KY

#115791 Oct 29, 2013
non believer wrote:
Right wing christian extremist are trying to turn America into a Nazi fascist government.
Back to school for you.... The National Socialist Party and the Fascism are Leftist Socialist governance... Both are examples of the End Result of Left Wing socialization of a populace of imperfect peoples.... With Imperfect peoples socialism always falls to totalitarian rule...
curious

Winter Garden, FL

#115792 Oct 29, 2013
Khatru wrote:
<quoted text>
So you're advocating that Bible studies be restricted to just the teachings of Jesus?
The Old Testament tells us of Jesus's coming.
The New Testament confirms his arrival.
That,in spite of the nonsense spouted by former monokers as UMM and Yiago.
I am assuming that they are still here ,using other monikers and you may well be one or both of those.
So, it makes me no difference which is taught.
Those parents who oppose having it taught to their children should be given the opportunity to have their children withheld from attending those classes.
They should be made available only to those who wish to attend.
non believer

Rancho Cordova, CA

#115793 Oct 29, 2013
Quantummist wrote:
<quoted text>
Back to school for you.... The National Socialist Party and the Fascism are Leftist Socialist governance... Both are examples of the End Result of Left Wing socialization of a populace of imperfect peoples.... With Imperfect peoples socialism always falls to totalitarian rule...
Good reason to get rid of right wing religious extremist. Fascism using religious support trying to achieve their goals. Can fascism exists without religious support?

Since: Apr 08

Cambridge, UK

#115794 Oct 29, 2013
SistaNoneYa wrote:
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Israel, for one example, is documented though out history, to have been the "hot seat" of many "quests of conquer" as far back as the MacAbees.
And NOT over religion-but moreso over POLITICAL quests for ruling power, greed etc.
Just as it is NOW a days.
TRUTH-not distortions spewed to suit feed the sickness of ones own hatred against other beleifs.
Quite simply, Christians believe that Jews murdered Jesus, It's no wonder that the Jews have been the subject of intolerance, hatred and murder since the early years of the Christian Church. This led to anti-Semitism becoming an integral part of Christian doctrine.

The demonising of the Jews can be seen in the Gospel of John.

The Church passed various laws and enactments which stripped away any rights that the Jews had. Christians accused the Jews of the most vile and evil crimes, leading to the insane idea of the "blood libel" - something so evil and twisted it could only have come from the Christian Church.

Try looking up "Host Desecration" if you want a laugh at further Christian stupidity and ignorance. We all know the cannibalistic side to those Christians who genuinely believed that the crackers they would eat transformed into the body of Jesus. Such was the level of Christian insanity that they believed the Jews would want to torture these crackers in an attempt to hurt the body of Christ.

Both the Blood Libel and the Host Desecration led to the deaths of thousands of Jews.

Didn't the Catholic Church charge the entire Jewish people with deicide? I'm sure that would have fired up even greater levels of hatred in those christian heads.

No wonder Hitler targeted the Jews. He was simply taking the hatred and murderous intolerance of the Christian Church to new levels of insanity.
non believer

Rancho Cordova, CA

#115795 Oct 29, 2013
In general, christofascism refers to the notion that christian extremist is not so much a religion as it is a political ideology that in many ways resembles "fascism" (i.e. the modern common definition of fascism which equates it with totalitarianism, as opposed to the original capital-F Italian-style Fascism).

Since: Apr 08

Cambridge, UK

#115796 Oct 29, 2013
Known Fact wrote:
<quoted text>
Yep, and that's why we have Southern Baptist which I'm sure some of these posters belong to that religion. They split because they said the bible allows them to have slaves. Oh yeah, and because they didn't want their women voting.
Got to love the bible, you can use t to justify anything you want. What a joke.
It amuses me when you see people quoting the bible to justify denying gays equal rights. I find it particularly ironic when it's a black pastor who is doing it.

The pastor probably doesn't realise it but he's doing exactly what pro-slavery campaigners did to justify denying blacks freedom from slavery.

Since: Apr 08

Cambridge, UK

#115797 Oct 29, 2013
curious wrote:
<quoted text>
You are the one claiming that it was a consortium of God's that created the Universe.
I disagree with that conclusion , however , it makes much more sense ,than your previously held ,inane,illogical ,nonsesical ,illconceived ,devoid of intellect and eunuchized belief thatNothing created something out of nothing ,thereby spontaneously creating the Universe and life as we know it.
Now ,another Brit atributes all this nonsense to the Law of Gravity.
This gibberish surpasses the bounds of magic , Science Fiction and indicates that said individual has become lost in the State of Insanity and is unable to find his way out.
In your travels ,if you happen to run into him , throw a net over him and turn him over to the British Psychiatric Association.
They have posted a reward for anyone who apprehends him.
just tell him you are taking him to the Atheist Church in London
where Bon Jovi will be performing..He will eat that right up,as have many other atheists. If you need more entertainment , call me.
I do a mean version of La Bamba.
para bailar a La bamba , se necesita una poca de gracia,
Pa mi y pa ti , arriba y arriba por ti sere,por tisere,porti sere,
Bamba, bamba ,bamba ,bamba.
Bon Jovi? Lightweight poodle pop. They'll never rock like Deep Purple.

Yeah, I did say it was a consortium of gods. Not because I believe it but because I knew you would insist it was just the one.

Furthermore, you can't justify your reasoning for there being one god with any cod logic. We all know the only reason you assert there is one god is because the bible says so.

Which also happens to be the reason why you believe that our reality was put together by magic.

Since: Apr 08

Cambridge, UK

#115798 Oct 29, 2013
LOL in a suit wrote:
<quoted text>
Easy.
You may already know this but in the usa there is the bible belt. It is heavily populated with the religiously impaired. What I find interesting is the bible belt has the highest obesity per cap, highest in under educated people and the highest murder rate. I guess god needs fat stupid killers.
I tend to think of it as the grease belt.

Since: Apr 08

Cambridge, UK

#115799 Oct 29, 2013
curious wrote:
<quoted text>
The Old Testament tells us of Jesus's coming.
The New Testament confirms his arrival.
That,in spite of the nonsense spouted by former monokers as UMM and Yiago.
I am assuming that they are still here ,using other monikers and you may well be one or both of those.
So, it makes me no difference which is taught.
Those parents who oppose having it taught to their children should be given the opportunity to have their children withheld from attending those classes.
They should be made available only to those who wish to attend.
The OT tells of the Messiah's coming.

It's the Jewish religion, not yours. The Jews didn't accept Jesus as their messiah because he wasn't.

Those OT prophecies were made by the Jews. It's their religion, not yours.

Ask a Jew whether Christ fulfilled those prophecies and you'll get a quite different answer. Who are you to tell the Jews that their belief system is wrong and that they're not interpreting their own scriptures properly?
non believer

Rancho Cordova, CA

#115800 Oct 29, 2013
Khatru wrote:
<quoted text>
It amuses me when you see people quoting the bible to justify denying gays equal rights. I find it particularly ironic when it's a black pastor who is doing it.
The pastor probably doesn't realise it but he's doing exactly what pro-slavery campaigners did to justify denying blacks freedom from slavery.
I wonder if the black pastor was a student of James The Preacher.

“There is no god.”

Since: Jan 12

USA

#115801 Oct 29, 2013
non believer wrote:
In general, christofascism refers to the notion that christian extremist is not so much a religion as it is a political ideology that in many ways resembles "fascism" (i.e. the modern common definition of fascism which equates it with totalitarianism, as opposed to the original capital-F Italian-style Fascism).
Good ole mussolini said,

We are free to believe that this is the century of authority a century tending to the right, a fascist century.

“There is no god.”

Since: Jan 12

USA

#115802 Oct 29, 2013
Khatru wrote:
<quoted text>
I tend to think of it as the grease belt.
*shivers*
curious

Winter Garden, FL

#115803 Oct 29, 2013
Khatru wrote:
<quoted text>
The OT tells of the Messiah's coming.
It's the Jewish religion, not yours. The Jews didn't accept Jesus as their messiah because he wasn't.
Those OT prophecies were made by the Jews. It's their religion, not yours.
Ask a Jew whether Christ fulfilled those prophecies and you'll get a quite different answer. Who are you to tell the Jews that their belief system is wrong and that they're not interpreting their own scriptures properly?
I did not ask one Jew whether Jesus was the Messiah , I asked 12 Jews , who knew him and they said that he was The Messiah and that they were willing to die for that belief AND THEY DID DIE FOR THAT BELIEF.

Foolish one , It is not I that is telling them they are wrong,It is
their Scriptures that is telling them they are wrong.
Moses told them in advance ,way back then , of his coming and when he arrived theystill would not believe him.
I cansee why you defend the Jews and their unbelief, You are also afflicted by their blindness.

“Speaker of Mountain Wisdom....”

Since: Jan 10

London, KY

#115804 Oct 29, 2013
non believer wrote:
<quoted text>
Good reason to get rid of right wing religious extremist. Fascism using religious support trying to achieve their goals. Can fascism exists without religious support?
Do you actually know what fascism means? Do you know that fascism is a off shoot of socialism were the government is given absolute power over production of goods and services for equitable redistribution to the people as determined by the Elite that consider their rule for the greater good...

Since WW2 the left has made great effort to distance themselves and redefine Fascism and National Socialism as Right Wing movements but before the war it was the left and Socialist leaning US politicians and public figures Supported both the Fascists and the NAZI's ... There were NAZI Marches through downtown NYC with speeches in support by local and national officials in support... Once the Germans and Italians started attacking their neighbors and committing atrocities the left started moon walking like Jackson to distance themselves so the left could claim no Blame for helping Hitler and Mussolini gain power in the first place with the lefts support...
Known Fact

Somerset, KY

#115805 Oct 29, 2013
curious wrote:
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Let me clarify for you why Atheists have been branded as fools.
Their actions serve to confirm what we already know about them.
The Atgheist Church is NOT making fun of religion ,as you foolishly claim.
omething like church.[Vice]"
Says I; The fool completely ignores the point that , it is precisely because those who attend religious services do so,in order to praise and beseech God , That the benefits he mentioned ,happier ,healthier and more optimistic than others come as a result of Worship and praise.
Most assuredly , thosed results are not caused by the Superstition that,if a group of people get together in a room and play Bon Jovi music"although Bon Jovi is a Christian" that they will be healthier,happier and more optimistic.
If you believe that, all you need to do is buy a Bon Jovi CD and play it at home.
"Ian Dodd, the Los Angeles Assembly co-founder, isn't daunted by atheism's definitional lack of common faith: "The church model has worked really well for a couple of thousand years," he tells Salon. "What we're trying to do is hold on to the bath water while throwing out the baby Jesus"

Let me give you an example of Atheistic Foolishness'
If you have a toothache ,you can not simply go to the dentist's office ,say hello to those in the waiting room and then go back homeand expect your toothache to go away.
The main ingredient is the Dentist. If you eliminate him you will not be cured ,regardless of how many times you go to his office.
Going to church and denying God serves the same useless purpose.
The idea of the Atheist church was made by two stand up comedians. They sing 80 ballads, have crazy clapping games, mini raves and nothing to do with God. They make it entertaining because they can't use hell to threaten people to come. How do you get they aren't making fun of religion?

There are good things about church, any time you can get a group of people together peacefully to exchange ideas then that's a good thing. When you have people gathering because they are afraid of going to hell then I really don't see how that can be productive.

As far as your going on and on about how religious people are more happy than Atheist I just don't believe it. It sure wasn't the case in my life. Not thinking God was going to kill me at any moment for not obeying him was a great feeling.

Last time God judged the world he killed everything but a boat load of people and the next round isn't going to be any better. The bible says just a few will make it but you guys believe all you have to do is go to church on the holidays and hate gays. If the bible is true then there's going to be a lot of people sitting in hell wondering why they are there.
non believer

Rancho Cordova, CA

#115806 Oct 29, 2013
Quantummist wrote:
<quoted text>
Do you actually know what fascism means? Do you know that fascism is a off shoot of socialism were the government is given absolute power over production of goods and services for equitable redistribution to the people as determined by the Elite that consider their rule for the greater good...
Since WW2 the left has made great effort to distance themselves and redefine Fascism and National Socialism as Right Wing movements but before the war it was the left and Socialist leaning US politicians and public figures Supported both the Fascists and the NAZI's ... There were NAZI Marches through downtown NYC with speeches in support by local and national officials in support... Once the Germans and Italians started attacking their neighbors and committing atrocities the left started moon walking like Jackson to distance themselves so the left could claim no Blame for helping Hitler and Mussolini gain power in the first place with the lefts support...
Religion and Fascism work hand in hand; if in doubt ask the Pope!
non believer

Rancho Cordova, CA

#115807 Oct 29, 2013
Dr. Lawrence Britt has examined the fascist regimes of Hitler (Germany), Mussolini (Italy), Franco (Spain), Suharto (Indonesia) and several Latin American regimes. Britt found 14 defining characteristics common to each:

Powerful and Continuing Nationalism

Controlled Mass Media

Obsession with National Security - Fear is used as a motivational tool by the government over the masses.

Religion and Government are Intertwined - Governments in fascist nations tend to use the most common religion in the nation as a tool to manipulate public opinion. Religious rhetoric and terminology is common from government leaders.

Corporate Power is Protected

Labor Power is Suppressed

I say this resembles the tea party republicans

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