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Bible study rules for public schools proposed

There are 179897 comments on the The Courier-Journal story from Feb 10, 2010, titled Bible study rules for public schools proposed. In it, The Courier-Journal reports that:

FRANKFORT, Ky. - The state would create rules for teaching about the Bible in public high schools under a bill filed Monday by three Democratic senators.

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“Breaking the spell ”

Since: Dec 10

of the puppet master

#115819 Oct 29, 2013
curious wrote:
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I am not showing absolute arrogance and you are showing absolute ignorance.
If we start with the begining; In thr begining God created the heavens and the earth and human life as we know it. I have posted my basis for believing God is the creator.
None of you have been able to dispute my beliefs , other than with excuses and stinkbombs.
You have had the opportunity to post the basis for believing otherwise.
You have been unable to so , confessing that you do not know. While sticking your finger in your belly button , in the hope that by cleaning out the lint an intellihent response will come to your minds , all you can do is rely on wishful thinking in the hope that someday ,if we can wait a couple of million years , there is a possibility that Science will be able to explain that miraculous event.
Therefore , your foundation for denying the accuracy of the bible is based on a resounding " I DON"T KNOW"
Your foundation is mired in quicksand and any further misinformation you place atop it wil cause it to sink deeper into the mire.
You often allude to " your logic" as if that were the basis for accuracy and truth , when in effect ,it is only the basis for accuracy and truth according to basing your opioin as to what is right in your eyes , not according to the facts.
In reality " your logic" is nothing more than your Opinion ,regardless of the term you couch it in.
I am very secure in the basis for my faith.
While yours is based on an .I don't know, mine is based on .I believe and with good reason.
I feel badly about your unbelief , but I can do nothing about that.
On the other hand ,your unbelief and that of the others on this website , has served to strengthen my beliefs.
Thank God for that.
And YES , I believe those 12 Jews who personally knew HIM and were taught by HIM as opposed to those who have NEVER known him.
Calling me ignorant for not believing you zero evidence story is again absolute arrogance.
If you wish to put your god into that gap of knowledge, fine. But it is not fact, it is simply an opinion.
More than twelve people thought David Koresh was a messiah. And the died in that cause. Does this prove he was the messiah?
I am not using my logic in this, I am using yours stupid. You can't even understand a simple hypothetical. What an idiot.

“Breaking the spell ”

Since: Dec 10

of the puppet master

#115820 Oct 29, 2013
curious wrote:
<quoted text>
I agree with you but, you need to understand my reasons for continuing this conversation. True,it maynot benefit the Atheists, but their inane opinions serve to strengthen my beliefs.
All they cansay,in defense of their nonbelief ,is that they have no idea what or who was responsible for creating theUniverse and life.
Of course that is their only option Their unbelief will not permit them to claim God as the creator.
Their other options are to voice the inane opinion that nothing created something from nothing, therby,spontaneously creating the Universe or, to explain how it is possible that unintelligent,nonliving .nonconscious matter was able to transform itself into it's complete opposite.
Those are opinions with no basis in fact , Therefore they must, under their breath , proclaim, I don't know. where as , we can proclaim . I believe ,,and with good reason.
anyhow , you keep posting and although we are nearing Halloween,don't let these hob goblins detain you from your work.
God bless us ALL
The difference between you and atheists in this respect is, you assume to know something no one can actually know. Absolute arrogance.

“Breaking the spell ”

Since: Dec 10

of the puppet master

#115821 Oct 29, 2013
curious wrote:
<quoted text>
I agree with you but, you need to understand my reasons for continuing this conversation. True,it maynot benefit the Atheists, but their inane opinions serve to strengthen my beliefs.
All they cansay,in defense of their nonbelief ,is that they have no idea what or who was responsible for creating theUniverse and life.
Of course that is their only option Their unbelief will not permit them to claim God as the creator.
Their other options are to voice the inane opinion that nothing created something from nothing, therby,spontaneously creating the Universe or, to explain how it is possible that unintelligent,nonliving .nonconscious matter was able to transform itself into it's complete opposite.
Those are opinions with no basis in fact , Therefore they must, under their breath , proclaim, I don't know. where as , we can proclaim . I believe ,,and with good reason.
anyhow , you keep posting and although we are nearing Halloween,don't let these hob goblins detain you from your work.
God bless us ALL
I am sure in the days of Zeus, many had their faith confirmed in him when non believers could not tell them where lightning comes from.

“Breaking the spell ”

Since: Dec 10

of the puppet master

#115823 Oct 29, 2013
SistaNoneYa wrote:
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Well now...theres a new concept...Karoke in the church of nothingness.
Does it just skip the former precepts of the more historically based orgs and go for the door cover charge instead of passing around a donation plate?
Who decides which muzac will American Idoltrylized for the week?
Nothingness? Pretty sure they come together for a reason, and it is not to worship. In other words, it is something.

“Breaking the spell ”

Since: Dec 10

of the puppet master

#115824 Oct 29, 2013
DownGradedUSofA wrote:
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Yo dude-
What this church b at? I knows of some peeps in needs of some functionasl, safe transpo-and well, with this here obammer economy already sucking and draining the life outa hard working peeps, they aint gotz no extree nickels to gets one.
So I was thinkn mehbe I could tell they about this muzac worshipping place-and we, kuld sing us some them there great bon jovi muzac and mehbe get one them thar majikeel obammer economy sparkle, sparkle, glitter, glitter unikorns to poop they one out.
And mehbe a little Dillon, or Arriosmith too, for that really speshull fweelink?
No condemning or labeling here.
Must you say something hypocritical
Every day?

“Breaking the spell ”

Since: Dec 10

of the puppet master

#115825 Oct 29, 2013
SistaNoneYa wrote:
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TRUTH-not distortions spewed to suit feed the sickness of ones own hatred against other beleifs.
Read the last post, hypocrite. You can change your name, but only one person writes in baby talk here.
SistaNoneYa

United States

#115826 Oct 29, 2013
ChromiuMan wrote:
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You mean like displacing the indigenous Palestinians in 1947?
There are dark age, barbaric, ignorant terrorists and then there are enlightened, cultured, intelligent power brokers. A thief is a thief.(You aren't going to see that slogan on a tea party poster. Don't wrinkle your little brow trying to ponder it out.)
1947/1906/ etc etc....

(Seems like just saying Judea with one capital city, and one state capital would be easier, but...)
SistaNoneYa

United States

#115827 Oct 29, 2013
Mike Duquette wrote:
<quoted text>Trying to create your own labels for certain types of people you like to condemn, I see. Your label is HYPOCRITE!!!
Oh stick a fork in your ol' waggy, judgemental, hateful tongue.

I too, like to REST on Sunday mornings. So call me a hypocrite.

But I AM still, one of the best behaved ones you'll ever dialgue with!

“Speaker of Mountain Wisdom....”

Since: Jan 10

http://www.pixoto.com/quantumm

#115828 Oct 29, 2013
non believer wrote:
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Religion and Fascism work hand in hand; if in doubt ask the Pope!
Religion and Any Controlling governance go hand in hand... The problems arise when they go beyond holding hands and start swappin spit....
SistaNoneYa

United States

#115829 Oct 29, 2013
Mike Duquette wrote:
<quoted text>The ruling power so easily uses the claimed words of god to rally the troops. All you need is some faithful god believers a power hungry leader and you have the makings of war. Moses did it.
Now try to sweep that under the rug so history will keep repeating itself with the ignorant.
Nature of the beast(s).
SistaNoneYa

United States

#115830 Oct 29, 2013
Mike Duquette wrote:
<quoted text>Nothingness? Pretty sure they come together for a reason, and it is not to worship. In other words, it is something.
No more anything than any of the rest of the similar stuff.
SistaNoneYa

United States

#115831 Oct 29, 2013
Mike Duquette wrote:
<quoted text>No condemning or labeling here.
Must you say something hypocritical
Every day?
Just returning the same back unto the same.
Yes and Amen

Richmond, KY

#115833 Oct 30, 2013
Yes and Amen

Richmond, KY

#115834 Oct 30, 2013
Khatru wrote:
<quoted text>
I've made my choice and I'm not going to hell and there's nothing your god can do to make me.
Whatever you want to believe...
known fact

United States

#115835 Oct 30, 2013
If humans came from dirt then why do we still have dirt?

“See how you are?”

Since: Jul 12

Earth

#115836 Oct 30, 2013
Apostle Amber wrote:
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This whole subject has turned into a way Unbelievers can jump believers with their ill behavior and display thier ignorance if the word.
I don't think it's healthy for believers to constantly try continue to carry on a conversation, maybe we can only plant a seed of faith but the unsaved are using this forum to spew hate and Jesus saw immediately who would believe and who wouldn't he spoke his encouraging and uplifting words to who loved him not to those who hated him, he rebuked them once and walked away ignoring them.
You, YaA and curious completely misunderstand the bubbles you live in and you defensively misconstrue what is said to you about it. Pointing that out is not hate speech.
curious

Winter Garden, FL

#115837 Oct 30, 2013
ChromiuMan wrote:
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You, YaA and curious completely misunderstand the bubbles you live in and you defensively misconstrue what is said to you about it. Pointing that out is not hate speech.
Instead of making bland statements without any supporting evidence why do you not enlighten us with some facts.
What is this"Completely misunderstand the bubbles you live in bla blah blah to which you are alluding?
Enlighten us, if you will...
Seems to me that the unbelief of Atheists has led them down a one way street and there is only one way out.
You are welcome to try and dig them out of the hole they have dug for themselves.....

“See how you are?”

Since: Jul 12

Earth

#115838 Oct 30, 2013
curious wrote:
<quoted text>
Instead of making bland statements without any supporting evidence why do you not enlighten us with some facts.
What is this"Completely misunderstand the bubbles you live in bla blah blah to which you are alluding?
Enlighten us, if you will...
Seems to me that the unbelief of Atheists has led them down a one way street and there is only one way out.
You are welcome to try and dig them out of the hole they have dug for themselves.....
Why would I waste time elaborating facts, evidence and statistics to the likes of a fundamentalist whack job? There has always been an overwhelming ratio of Christians to atheists in this country, yet your addled mind seems to think that 99% of all societies' ills are attributable to a historically small minority that has had a comparably small voice in policies and procedures. I'm not interested in prolonged thoughtful diatribes with you when I know from experience that 1) you don't accept objective evidence 2) you don't want to understand any other point of view and 3) it has been demonstrated a foregone conclusion that you are egotistically hostile, logically challenged and morally unprincipled at the outset. It is not because I have no retort to your long winded villainies that I don't normally address you, it is because you are only marginally worth the effort of even a bland quip.

“Breaking the spell ”

Since: Dec 10

of the puppet master

#115839 Oct 30, 2013
curious wrote:
<quoted text>
The Old Testament tells us of Jesus's coming.
The New Testament confirms his arrival.
That,in spite of the nonsense spouted by former monokers as UMM and Yiago.
I am assuming that they are still here ,using other monikers and you may well be one or both of those.
So, it makes me no difference which is taught.
Those parents who oppose having it taught to their children should be given the opportunity to have their children withheld from attending those classes.
They should be made available only to those who wish to attend.
Do you think the public schools should emphasis your belief the bible is claiming Jesus is the prophesy of the OT or just let them figure that out on their own?

What I am genuinely confused about is, just what is the school teaching about the bible that the bible does not say?
If any of it is left to the interpretation of the teacher or the government, it seems to be the state is teaching its version of the religion.
We know their are many disputes even among believers about what the bible means, much less non believers. So who's version of interpretation is to be taught?
Known Fact

Somerset, KY

#115840 Oct 30, 2013
curious wrote:
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Hey , I explained why their objective is not to make fun of religion and specifically pointed out what their objective is,quoting their words.
If you did not understand it then,posting it again will be of no value.
Go back and read it and get back to me.
If you or they believe that listening to Bon Jovi will resolve their problem , you all are going tgo be in for a huge disappointment.
You will only end up with a huge headache and discombobulated eardrums.As if you guys didn't already have enough problems
Well I think it's funny as hell and I bet if they had the 17 billion dollar budget each year like religion gets, it would be much better spent and do a lot more for people.

I think it's almost as funny as the Christian Science Church they built. You can't tell me that this wasn't done on purpose. The slogan of the church is "Rising Up." Religion is a joke.

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