Careful, or you might end up talking to wooden a desk.<quoted text>
Weasel what around? If anyone here is prone to diverting from the topic with snide quips about other posters it is you. THAT is how you brought up AA in the first place. I've stated that my "agenda" is an opposition to superstitious willful ignorance and the blatant dishonesty that seems intrinsic and pervasive with it. I find indoctrinating children into religious cults to be abominable. I've made no attempt to shroud those "agendas" in mystery.
Even if there aren't any doctrines or condemnations in AA,(which I have no evidence of either way) the consequences of alcohol abuse are documented and very, very real, so obviously I wasn't talking talking about 12 step programs.
Jefferson wrote on November 18, 1825: "Politics, as well as Religion, has it's superstitions. These, gaining strength with time, may, one day give imaginary value to this relic, for it's association with the birth of the Great Charter of our Independence."
Coolidge replied, on February 27, 1826, that he would consider the desk "no longer inanimate, and mute, but as something to be interrogated and caressed."