Bible study rules for public schools proposed

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FRANKFORT, Ky. - The state would create rules for teaching about the Bible in public high schools under a bill filed Monday by three Democratic senators.

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“Breaking the spell ”

Since: Dec 10

of the puppet master

#114311 Oct 9, 2013
curious wrote:
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Hey , Heinz 57 .. Fuggeaboutit...That is all nonsense.
You weren't there And if you had been You would not have lived to tell about it If you catch my drift
I will not forget about it, not sure about the others here. Kind of hard to forget about the founder of your beliefs being a mass murderer. I will point it out often.
You can try to run from this important issue if you wish, but this is a large reason atheists see your kind as being in denial.
curious

Ocoee, FL

#114312 Oct 9, 2013
Spaceship earth wrote:
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Now the thinking man including religious denominations are accepting evolution.
Now , the thinking winners of Noble Laureate are proclaiming God's existence
CHARLES TOWNES, Nobel Laureate in Physics.
1.¨ On May 24, 2002, Charles Townes wrote a letter to the compiler T. Dimitrov. To the inquiry,“What do you think about the existence of God?” Prof. Townes gave the following answer:“I strongly believe in the existence of God, based on intuition, observations, logic, and also scientific knowledge.”(Townes 2002a).
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7. ARTHUR SCHAWLOW, Nobel Laureate in Physics:
1.¨ Arthur Schawlow described the relationship between religion and science in the following way:
“Religion is founded on faith. It seems to me that when confronted with the marvels of life and the universe, one must ask why and not just how. The only possible answers are religious. For me that means Protestant Christianity, to which I was introduced as a child and which has withstood the tests of a lifetime."
2.¨“I find a need for God in the universe and in my own life.”(Schawlow, as cited in Margenau and Varghese, 1997, 107; and in Clausen 1995, 10).
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8. WILLIAM PHILLIPS, Nobel Laureate in Physics.
1.¨ In his lecture Ordinary Faith, Ordinary Science, delivered at the conference “Science and the Spiritual Quest”(20 April 2002, Paris), Dr. William Phillips said:“Many scientists are also people with quite conventional religious faith. I, a physicist, am one example. I believe in God as both creator and friend. That is, I believe that God is personal and interacts with us.”(Phillips 2002a).
“What do you think about the existence of God?&#148; Dr. Phillips gave the following answer:
“I believe in God. In fact, I believe in a personal God who acts in and interacts with the creation. I believe that the observations about the orderliness of the physical universe, and the apparently exceptional fine-tuning of the conditions of the universe for the development of life suggest that an intelligent Creator is responsible.…I believe in God because of a personal faith, a faith that is consistent with what I know about science.”(Phillips 2002b).
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9. SIR WILLIAM H. BRAGG, Nobel Laureate in Physics:
1.¨ Prof. Bragg wrote:“Christ’s rule and example showed God as our Father and us as His children, a society in which love governs all. Then if we seek a rule of conduct we should think of what we should like children to be like and what we should wish them to do. We like them to be hardworking, eager, cheerful, sympathetic. We like them to enjoy themselves thoroughly. We must be sad and in pain sometimes, but let us be happy as much and whenever we can, and whilst we are well and happy let us help all who are not. The more we strive to enjoy ourselves the more happiness we shall be able to communicate to others. For we trust that this life is a preparation: not a final probation.”(Bragg, as cited in Caroe 1979, 164).
2.¨________
10. GUGLIELMO MARCONI, Nobel Laureate in Physics:
1.¨ "Guglielmo Marconi wrote:“The more I work with the powers of Nature, the more I feel God’s benevolence to man; the closer I am to the great truth that everything is dependent on the Eternal Creator and Sustainer [Creatore e Reggitore Eterno]; the more I feel that the so-called ‘science’ I am occupied with is nothing but an expression of the Supreme Will, which aims at bringing people closer to each other in order to help them better understand and improve themselves.”(Marconi, as cited in Maria Cristina Marconi 1995, 244).
curious

Ocoee, FL

#114313 Oct 9, 2013
Mike Duquette wrote:
<quoted text>I will not forget about it, not sure about the others here. Kind of hard to forget about the founder of your beliefs being a mass murderer. I will point it out often.
You can try to run from this important issue if you wish, but this is a large reason atheists see your kind as being in denial.
What Atheists may or may not believe is irrelevant to me , since my faith is neither based or influenced by their misguided beliefs.
The cancer which permeated the Congregation was removed.
If you read exodus 33;7 to 10 you will note the effect that the removal of said cancer had on the congregation.

“Speaker of Mountain Wisdom....”

Since: Jan 10

London, KY

#114314 Oct 9, 2013
Mike Duquette wrote:
<quoted text>Bull. I do not think the prisons are full of liberal granola crunchers.
Well it's true.... The Overall voting records of the Major Cities such as Detroit, Chicago, LA, NY, Atlanta ect. show Democrat Massive Majority.... and a few voted so with 100% to 115% of the registered voting numbers... Now aline that with the FBI Stat's on the US Prison Populations and where the crimes happen about 90% of US Violent Crimes take place in Cities over 200,000 people... With a large number of Gangs, both Hispanic and Black, making up a large segment of that... Knowing the Demographics of such groups the Vast Majority support and agree with Liberal political policies...

So I stand by the Rational observation that Prisons are Overwhelmingly Democrats and Liberals... I think 90% sounds about right for the populations...
curious

Ocoee, FL

#114315 Oct 9, 2013
stuck in a lodi wrote:
<quoted text>The only person bringing the subject of changing monikers, and one's location is you {over & over & over & over again}. One would think that You would have gotten the point by now, no one else cares, we are replying to someone who is undoubtedly consumed to the manic level. I for one am not going to allow anyone to post false statements of anything or anyone w/out recourse, especially when those false statements are directed towards me.
So expect retaliation to follow every time You bring it up.
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I completely agree, that's why the only person bringing it up for debate is you. No one is going to allow another person to continuously slander their character, whether on a topix forum or face to face.
<quoted text>
The one blowing this issue out of proportion is the one constantly bringing it up, that's you Richard {Dick} Head, Not 2 guys.
I do however see every person you've accused of doing this, defending themselves, and bringing to light what a liar you are!
Your fear and Paranoia is consuming you. The grey matter in your Cerebral is now nothing more than wasteland.
On several occassions it has been alleged that I change monikers.
You guys through out the bait , I did not bite.

You 2 guys headed for the hook and have refused to let it go.
As for me , I will not reel you in ....cling on to that hook for as long as you want
curious

Ocoee, FL

#114316 Oct 9, 2013
Mike Duquette wrote:
<quoted text>Terminix? As in terminating our lives? Yes I am sure this is the immoral teaching of the bible.
And you are partly correct, you cannot easily remove non believers, even if you murder many of them.
The founding fathers of America understood the principle you cite here is immoral.
I see you call us names like "fungus". I get the bible leads you to believe non believers are bad people. It is a prejudice.
You are both totally out of your minds.

Are you saying that I am trying to kill you?
Are you nuts or just pretending?
Chroe is afraid that I will pull my ak47 which I don't own one and come looking for him. That is the reason he gave for not disclosing his location.
That would be rather difficult to do , since I have no idea who he is ,male or female and have not the slightest clue as to what he may look like.
Only information I have on him is thAt he is partial to 3 eyed alligators...
What he don't realize is that he has more to fear from Q than he does me .
Motorcyclists and their helmets are a threat to the general population...

“Speaker of Mountain Wisdom....”

Since: Jan 10

London, KY

#114317 Oct 9, 2013
curious wrote:
<quoted text>
You are both totally out of your minds.
Are you saying that I am trying to kill you?
Are you nuts or just pretending?
Chroe is afraid that I will pull my ak47 which I don't own one and come looking for him. That is the reason he gave for not disclosing his location.
That would be rather difficult to do , since I have no idea who he is ,male or female and have not the slightest clue as to what he may look like.
Only information I have on him is thAt he is partial to 3 eyed alligators...
What he don't realize is that he has more to fear from Q than he does me .
Motorcyclists and their helmets are a threat to the general population...
"Motorcyclists and their helmets are a threat to the general population..."

Don't wear a helmet..... Motorcyclists are only dangerous in large groups, Bikers are dangerous all by themselves....
curious

Ocoee, FL

#114318 Oct 9, 2013
Mike Duquette wrote:
<quoted text>I have made several posts in the past hour. I note you only latched onto one of them.
ARTHUR COMPTON, Nobel Laureate in Physics:

1.¨ In his article “Science and the Supernatural”(1946) Compton said:

“From earliest childhood I have learned to see in Jesus the supreme example of one who loves his neighbors and expresses that love in actions that count, who knows that people can find their souls by losing themselves in something of great value, who will die rather than deny the truth in favor of the popular view held by his most respected contemporaries. That Jesus’ spirit lives so vitally in men today makes me hope that by following in his footsteps in my small way I also may live forever.”(Compton, as cited in Johnston 1967, 372).

3.¨ Commenting on the first verse of the Bible in Chicago Daily News (12 April 1936), Arthur Compton stated his religious views:“For myself, faith begins with the realization that a supreme intelligence brought the universe into being and created man. It is not difficult for me to have this faith, for it is incontrovertible that where there is a plan there is intelligence. An orderly, unfolding universe testifies to the truth of the most majestic statement ever uttered -‘In the beginning God.’[Genesis 1, 1].”(Compton 1936).

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12. ARNO PENZIAS, Nobel Laureate in Physics.

1.¨ In connection with the “Big Bang” theory and the issue of the origin of our highly ordered universe, Dr. Penzias stated to the New York Times on March 12, 1978:

“The best data we have are exactly what I would have predicted, had I had nothing to go on but the five books of Moses, the Psalms, the Bible as a whole.”(Penzias, as cited in Bergman 1994, 183; see also Brian 1995, 163).

Arno Penzias’ research into astrophysics has caused him to see “evidence of a plan of divine creation”(Penzias, as cited in Bergman 1994, 183).

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13. ALEXIS CARREL, Nobel Laureate in Medicine and Physiology:

1.¨ In Reflections on Life, Prof. Carrel expressed his attitude towards Christianity thus:

“We are loved by an immaterial and all-powerful Being. This Being is accessible to our prayers. We must love Him above all creatures. And we ourselves must also love one another.

4.¨“Christianity offers men the very highest of moralities.…It presents to them a God who can be adored because He is within our reach and Whom we ought to love.”(Carrel 1952, Chap. 9, Part 4).“I want to be like smoke in the wind at God’s disposal.”(Carrel, as cited in Newton 1989).

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14. SIR JOHN ECCLES, Nobel Laureate in Medicine and Physiology:

1.¨ In his article “Modern Biology and the Turn to Belief in God” that he wrote for the book, The Intellectuals Speak Out About God: A Handbook for the Christian Student in a Secular Society (1984), John Eccles came to the following conclusion:

“We come to exist through a divine act. That divine guidance is a theme throughout our life; at our death the brain goes, but that divine guidance and love continues. Each of us is a unique, conscious being, a divine creation. It is the religious view. It is the only view consistent with all the evidence.”(Eccles 1984a, 50).

2.¨ In an interview published in the scientific anthology, The Voice of Genius (1995), Prof. Eccles stated:“There is a Divine Providence over and above the materialistic happenings of biological evolution.”(Eccles, as cited in Brian 1995, 371).

Since: Feb 12

Roseville, CA

#114319 Oct 9, 2013
Mike Duquette wrote:
<quoted text>You would think the calf worshiping was a testament to the claims of these miracles being false. Moses came down from the mountain and these people were like, yea right,we really don't believe your story pal, move along. So Moses god pissed and had them murdered. Textbook tyrannical dictator.
Now the Golden Calf for Christians is adopted from the Pagan God Tammuz symbol "see: Ezekial 8:14 " the crucifix. Christians pledge allegiance to the flag under "Satan the God of this world" showing that they are still worshipping symbols just like the ones that Moses murdered.

YAA,curious would have been murdered by Moses for their pagan worship.
curious

Ocoee, FL

#114320 Oct 9, 2013
Quantummist wrote:
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"Motorcyclists and their helmets are a threat to the general population..."
Don't wear a helmet..... Motorcyclists are only dangerous in large groups, Bikers are dangerous all by themselves....
TOUCHE;
I will provide you an opening to follow up on.

I don't wear a helmet , as I don't have a head to put it on.

Lodi the jerkamanious will love this.
curious

Ocoee, FL

#114322 Oct 9, 2013
Spaceship earth wrote:
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Now the Golden Calf for Christians is adopted from the Pagan God Tammuz symbol "see: Ezekial 8:14 " the crucifix. Christians pledge allegiance to the flag under "Satan the God of this world" showing that they are still worshipping symbols just like the ones that Moses murdered.
YAA,curious would have been murdered by Moses for their pagan worship.
I do not worship a crucifix. That happens to be your misguided OPINION.
The pledge of allegiance ,which you do not believe in , makes mention of "One nation ,indivisible , UNDER GOD , to whom I pledge allegiance.
God brought me and the rest of us into the world.
He brought us in and will most assuredly , take us out.
How he takes me out , I leave up to him , as I beleive and trust in his judgement.
Under your different monikers , you keep regurgitating the same nonsense , as if by doing so , you could convert a lie into the truth.
Moses murdered no one.
They got what they deserved.
Those who disagree with the outcome , need to consider seeking God
instead of spouting nonsense in inmeasurable volumes.

“Speaker of Mountain Wisdom....”

Since: Jan 10

London, KY

#114323 Oct 9, 2013
curious wrote:
<quoted text>
TOUCHE;
I will provide you an opening to follow up on.
I don't wear a helmet , as I don't have a head to put it on.
Lodi the jerkamanious will love this.
I don't wear a helmet because I understand physics, DOT and Snell ratings and the stat's from my last ome state of Michigan that had a helmet law for many years and then changed the law to No Helmet...

a 2 lb helmet has a very heavy Inertial mass at 60mph.. While the impact rating under DOT and Snell of about 25mph... The Inertial mass causes the head to be forced into an impact that may have not occurred without the added mass... It also causes a greater rate of spinal damage... In Michigan the Death Rate due to head injury did rise by about 2% after they passed the No Helmet laws but the number of Paralysis due to spinal cord damage Dropped by 28%...

Then there is the issue with helmets limiting vision and hearing potential crash situations until the last moment ... In all states that have dropped mandatory helmet laws and seen a reduction of crashes in the first place...

Since: Feb 12

Roseville, CA

#114324 Oct 9, 2013
curious wrote:
<quoted text>
I do not worship a crucifix. That happens to be your misguided OPINION.
The pledge of allegiance ,which you do not believe in , makes mention of "One nation ,indivisible , UNDER GOD , to whom I pledge allegiance.
God brought me and the rest of us into the world.
He brought us in and will most assuredly , take us out.
How he takes me out , I leave up to him , as I beleive and trust in his judgement.
Under your different monikers , you keep regurgitating the same nonsense , as if by doing so , you could convert a lie into the truth.
Moses murdered no one.
They got what they deserved.
Those who disagree with the outcome , need to consider seeking God
instead of spouting nonsense in inmeasurable volumes.
You fulfilled a passage in the bible with your ignorance. See ya, I wouldn't want to be ya.

2 thessalonians 2:11
Therefore God sends them a strong delusion, so that they may believe what is false..
curious

Ocoee, FL

#114325 Oct 9, 2013
Spaceship earth wrote:
<quoted text>
You fulfilled a passage in the bible with your ignorance. See ya, I wouldn't want to be ya.
2 thessalonians 2:11
Therefore God sends them a strong delusion, so that they may believe what is false..
You ,Heinz 57 , have fulfilled your quota of posting nonsense up until march 31st of next year.
You can begin posting again on April the 1st.
curious

Ocoee, FL

#114326 Oct 9, 2013
Quantummist wrote:
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I don't wear a helmet because I understand physics, DOT and Snell ratings and the stat's from my last ome state of Michigan that had a helmet law for many years and then changed the law to No Helmet...
a 2 lb helmet has a very heavy Inertial mass at 60mph.. While the impact rating under DOT and Snell of about 25mph... The Inertial mass causes the head to be forced into an impact that may have not occurred without the added mass... It also causes a greater rate of spinal damage... In Michigan the Death Rate due to head injury did rise by about 2% after they passed the No Helmet laws but the number of Paralysis due to spinal cord damage Dropped by 28%...
Then there is the issue with helmets limiting vision and hearing potential crash situations until the last moment ... In all states that have dropped mandatory helmet laws and seen a reduction of crashes in the first place...
Since I don't ride motorcycles I will not dispute your opinion.

Would that also apply to football and hockey?

“Breaking the spell ”

Since: Dec 10

of the puppet master

#114327 Oct 9, 2013
curious wrote:
<quoted text>
What Atheists may or may not believe is irrelevant to me , since my faith is neither based or influenced by their misguided beliefs.
The cancer which permeated the Congregation was removed.
If you read exodus 33;7 to 10 you will note the effect that the removal of said cancer had on the congregation.
So you do not care, but are on this thread daily pleading with us? You're just a giant contradiction.

Is this a quote from Hitler?

“Breaking the spell ”

Since: Dec 10

of the puppet master

#114328 Oct 9, 2013
curious wrote:
<quoted text>
You ,Heinz 57 , have fulfilled your quota of posting nonsense up until march 31st of next year.
You can begin posting again on April the 1st.
The April first date was chosen to mock how religious fundamentalists have been fooled.
Evidently this flew over your head.

“Breaking the spell ”

Since: Dec 10

of the puppet master

#114329 Oct 9, 2013
curious wrote:
<quoted text>
You are both totally out of your minds.
Are you saying that I am trying to kill you?
Are you nuts or just pretending?
Chroe is afraid that I will pull my ak47 which I don't own one and come looking for him. That is the reason he gave for not disclosing his location.
That would be rather difficult to do , since I have no idea who he is ,male or female and have not the slightest clue as to what he may look like.
Only information I have on him is thAt he is partial to 3 eyed alligators...
What he don't realize is that he has more to fear from Q than he does me .
Motorcyclists and their helmets are a threat to the general population...
No, that is not what I am saying, as it is not what I said.
But you sure do applaud the cold blooded killing of those who worship other than yourself. Then using words like Terminex to describe what you wish for us is not helping your case.
I am simply pointing out how immoral your thoughts and words are.

“Breaking the spell ”

Since: Dec 10

of the puppet master

#114330 Oct 9, 2013
curious wrote:
<quoted text>

Moses murdered no one.
They got what they deserved.
Those who disagree with the outcome , need to consider seeking God
instead of spouting nonsense in inmeasurable volumes.
So we have different opinions of what is murder. I believe if you kill someone due to their religious beliefs, it is murder. American law says the same. So American law disagrees with the outcome.
America's values are not that of your superstition.

“Breaking the spell ”

Since: Dec 10

of the puppet master

#114331 Oct 9, 2013
Quantummist wrote:
<quoted text>
Well it's true.... The Overall voting records of the Major Cities such as Detroit, Chicago, LA, NY, Atlanta ect. show Democrat Massive Majority.... and a few voted so with 100% to 115% of the registered voting numbers... Now aline that with the FBI Stat's on the US Prison Populations and where the crimes happen about 90% of US Violent Crimes take place in Cities over 200,000 people... With a large number of Gangs, both Hispanic and Black, making up a large segment of that... Knowing the Demographics of such groups the Vast Majority support and agree with Liberal political policies...
So I stand by the Rational observation that Prisons are Overwhelmingly Democrats and Liberals... I think 90% sounds about right for the populations...
Over half of American adults do not even vote. So your assumptions are just that, with no actual evidence to prove your allegations.

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