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Bible study rules for public schools proposed

There are 169062 comments on the The Courier-Journal story from Feb 10, 2010, titled Bible study rules for public schools proposed. In it, The Courier-Journal reports that:

FRANKFORT, Ky. - The state would create rules for teaching about the Bible in public high schools under a bill filed Monday by three Democratic senators.

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Known Fact

Orlando, FL

#114168 Oct 7, 2013
kejgkejgqggggbeqr wrote:
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"In former times thousands of youths died for putting God first. They are still doing it, only today the drama is played out in hospitals and courtrooms, with blood transfusions the issue."--AWAKE! May 22, 1994, page 2. http://www.cftf.com/comments/kidsdied.html
You take these dead kids and act like they are Jesus who "supposedly" gave his life as well.
Why do JW kids die without a blood transfusion when they alone....they alone....their religion and no other religion is the only one that refuses blood transfusions? Why can't your God save them but a doctor can?
Wake up man and see what's going on around you.
Would you let your child die if a blood transfusion would save his life? Would you refuse the transfusion no matter what? Would you?
How can a person know which religion is right?
(1) On what are its teachings based? Are they from God, or are they largely from men?(2 Tim. 3:16; Mark 7:7) Ask, for example: Where does the Bible teach that God is a Trinity? Where does it say that the human soul is immortal?
(2) Consider whether it is making known the name of God. Jesus said in prayer to God:“I have made your name manifest to the men you gave me out of the world.”(John 17:6) He declared:“It is Jehovah your God you must worship, and it is to him alone you must render sacred service.”(Matt. 4:10) Has your religion taught you that ‘it is Jehovah you must worship’? Have you come to know the Person identified by that name—his purposes, his activities, his qualities—so that you feel you can confidently draw close to him?
(3) Is true faith in Jesus Christ being demonstrated? This involves appreciation of the value of the sacrifice of Jesus’ human life and of his position today as heavenly King.(John 3:36; Ps. 2:6-8) Such appreciation is shown by obeying Jesus—sharing personally and zealously in the work that he assigned to his followers. True religion has such faith that is accompanied by works.—Jas. 2:26.
(4) Is it largely ritualistic, a formality, or is it a way of life? God strongly disapproves of religion that is merely a formalism.(Isa. 1:15-17) True religion upholds the Bible’s standard of morality and clean speech instead of weakly going along with popular trends.(1 Cor. 5:9-13; Eph. 5:3-5) Its members reflect the fruits of God’s spirit in their lives.(Gal. 5:22, 23) So, those who adhere to true worship can be identified because they sincerely endeavor to apply Bible standards in their lives not only at their places of meeting but in their family life, at their secular work, in school, and in recreation.
Known Fact

Orlando, FL

#114169 Oct 7, 2013
(5) Do its members truly love one another? Jesus said:“By this all will know that you are my disciples, if you have love among yourselves.”(John 13:35) Such love reaches across racial, social, and national boundaries, drawing people together in genuine brotherhood. So strong is this love that it sets them apart as being truly different. When the nations go to war, who have enough love for their Christian brothers in other lands that they refuse to take up arms and kill them? That is what early Christians did.
(6) Is it truly separate from the world? Jesus said that his true followers would be “no part of the world.”(John 15:19) To worship God in a manner that he approves requires that we keep ourselves “without spot from the world.”(Jas. 1:27) Can that be said of those whose clergy and other members are involved in politics, or whose lives are largely built around materialistic and fleshly desires?—1 John 2:15-17.
(7) Are its members active witnesses concerning God’s Kingdom? Jesus foretold:“This good news of the kingdom will be preached in all the inhabited earth for a witness to all the nations; and then the end will come.”(Matt. 24:14) What religion is really proclaiming God’s Kingdom as the hope of mankind instead of encouraging people to look to human rulership to solve their problems? Has your religion equipped you to share in this activity, and to do it from house to house as Jesus taught his apostles to do?—Matt. 10:7, 11-13; Acts 5:42; 20:20.

“Breaking the spell ”

Since: Dec 10

of the puppet master

#114170 Oct 7, 2013
Yes and Amen wrote:
<quoted text>The Bible points to a religion that changed the laws, and times AS
an Anti-Christ!
Catholics via Constantine removed the second Commandment, AND
changed the Sabbath to Sunday, AND...
It's just one of the religions that created you!
So religion created what I am? So you should be cool with that, right?
Seems really strange that god would allow his word to be changed and no one knew for a thousand years. It is as if god has zero control. It is as if he does not exist. It is as if religion was created by man.
Known Fact

Orlando, FL

#114171 Oct 7, 2013
Spaceship earth wrote:
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Known Fact is biting his/her fingers nails like a sissy waiting for his pastor to call him back with the answer. If he/she has no answer the pastor will quote a scripture saying "don't give what is holy to dogs."
I posted one earlier about the blood transfusions showing how JW' take blood and topix deleted it. To bad, not sure why it was deleted.
God is mad like a spurned jealous lover and wait to kill them all.
Ex 32:9-14:
Gods bark was worse than his bite. Moses talks God out of his sadistic killing of the pagan worshiping Israelites. Then Moses decides he we do the killing himself and Give God the credit.
Numbers 12:1
No God to stay Moses hand. After all that killing Moses marries a pagan women. Every thing Moses told Israelite not to do he did.
Mr. "Spaceship earth",
First of all--I don't have a pastor! And to be sure you cannot say anything that would cause me to bite my fingernails.
As I said before " I would like to buy you for what you really know and then sell you for what you think you know. Would be more lucrative than winning a multi-million dollar lottery!

“Breaking the spell ”

Since: Dec 10

of the puppet master

#114172 Oct 7, 2013
Yes and Amen wrote:
<quoted text>The Bible points to a religion that changed the laws, and times AS
an Anti-Christ!
Catholics via Constantine removed the second Commandment, AND
changed the Sabbath to Sunday, AND...
It's just one of the religions that created you!
What do graven images have to do with what we were talking about? Nice diversion. You are the master of diversion.
Didn't you defend that cross thing at ground zero? Graven. And really, what is so wrong with making said images? Just silly superstitious crap. Like who cares what day is the sabbath? All the days are pagan named any way.
If your god is real, is he really that petty? What a diva.
Worshiping is for tyrants and dictators. Man made your silly commandments. A mass murderering tyrant made your commandments. Moses is immoral.

“Breaking the spell ”

Since: Dec 10

of the puppet master

#114173 Oct 7, 2013
Yes and Amen wrote:
<quoted text>I rest my case!
He is an anti-Christ!
So the anti Christ runs the largest most powerful christain church on the planet?
So we are in the same page here in some respects. You disagree with the many religions of the world as I do. I just disagree with one more than you.

“Breaking the spell ”

Since: Dec 10

of the puppet master

#114174 Oct 7, 2013
Yes and Amen wrote:
<quoted text>None of them!
But one is surely more Righteous than the other two!
I'll let you guess who that one is!
I really could not know, nor guess what your mind thinks. Try just giving a straight answer like a man for a change.

“Breaking the spell ”

Since: Dec 10

of the puppet master

#114175 Oct 7, 2013
Known Fact wrote:
<quoted text>
Mr. "Spaceship earth",
First of all--I don't have a pastor! And to be sure you cannot say anything that would cause me to bite my fingernails.
As I said before " I would like to buy you for what you really know and then sell you for what you think you know. Would be more lucrative than winning a multi-million dollar lottery!
If you sell at the speed you give straight answers, you would be dirt poor.
Did you ever find the part in the bible were Moses kills three thousand people for simply worshiping something he does not believe in?

Since: Sep 13

United States of America

#114176 Oct 7, 2013
Known Fact wrote:
<quoted text>
Correction: I have never posted as "Dumb and Dumber" You must have me confused with yourself. I always post as "Known Fact"
You've never posted facts either, known or otherwise.

Thank you for proving my point, you must be the {dumber} one of the duo.
Known Fact

Orlando, FL

#114177 Oct 7, 2013
How can a person know which religion is right?
(1) On what are its teachings based? Are they from God, or are they largely from men?(2 Tim. 3:16; Mark 7:7) Ask, for example: Where does the Bible teach that God is a Trinity? Where does it say that the human soul is immortal?
(2) Consider whether it is making known the name of God. Jesus said in prayer to God:“I have made your name manifest to the men you gave me out of the world.”(John 17:6) He declared:“It is Jehovah your God you must worship, and it is to him alone you must render sacred service.”(Matt. 4:10) Has your religion taught you that ‘it is Jehovah you must worship’? Have you come to know the Person identified by that name—his purposes, his activities, his qualities—so that you feel you can confidently draw close to him?
(3) Is true faith in Jesus Christ being demonstrated? This involves appreciation of the value of the sacrifice of Jesus’ human life and of his position today as heavenly King.(John 3:36; Ps. 2:6-8) Such appreciation is shown by obeying Jesus—sharing personally and zealously in the work that he assigned to his followers. True religion has such faith that is accompanied by works.—Jas. 2:26.
(4) Is it largely ritualistic, a formality, or is it a way of life? God strongly disapproves of religion that is merely a formalism.(Isa. 1:15-17) True religion upholds the Bible’s standard of morality and clean speech instead of weakly going along with popular trends.(1 Cor. 5:9-13; Eph. 5:3-5) Its members reflect the fruits of God’s spirit in their lives.(Gal. 5:22, 23) So, those who adhere to true worship can be identified because they sincerely endeavor to apply Bible standards in their lives not only at their places of meeting but in their family life, at their secular work, in school, and in recreation.
(5) Do its members truly love one another? Jesus said:“By this all will know that you are my disciples, if you have love among yourselves.”(John 13:35) Such love reaches across racial, social, and national boundaries, drawing people together in genuine brotherhood. So strong is this love that it sets them apart as being truly different. When the nations go to war, who have enough love for their Christian brothers in other lands that they refuse to take up arms and kill them? That is what early Christians did.
Known Fact

Orlando, FL

#114178 Oct 7, 2013
(6) Is it truly separate from the world? Jesus said that his true followers would be “no part of the world.”(John 15:19) To worship God in a manner that he approves requires that we keep ourselves “without spot from the world.”(Jas. 1:27) Can that be said of those whose clergy and other members are involved in politics, or whose lives are largely built around materialistic and fleshly desires?—1 John 2:15-17.
(7) Are its members active witnesses concerning God’s Kingdom? Jesus foretold:“This good news of the kingdom will be preached in all the inhabited earth for a witness to all the nations; and then the end will come.”(Matt. 24:14) What religion is really proclaiming God’s Kingdom as the hope of mankind instead of encouraging people to look to human rulership to solve their problems? Has your religion equipped you to share in this activity, and to do it from house to house as Jesus taught his apostles to do?—Matt. 10:7, 11-13; Acts 5:42; 20:20.

“Breaking the spell ”

Since: Dec 10

of the puppet master

#114179 Oct 7, 2013
Yes and Amen wrote:
<quoted text>It took me two readings to half way understand, but it wasn't until I read it as a History of God, and the people he chose to bless, their failings, and the Need for Christ, did I get to 75% understanding... Then I read more!
If people cannot "SEE' the evil around us... they're to close to it!
Killing Babies in the mothers womb... clear sign we've crapped in our mess-gear!
If you cannot see the evil of Moses killing people for worshiping their god, then you're to closes to the evil.
Known Fact

Orlando, FL

#114180 Oct 7, 2013
Mike Duquette wrote:
<quoted text>If you sell at the speed you give straight answers, you would be dirt poor.
Did you ever find the part in the bible were Moses kills three thousand people for simply worshiping something he does not believe in?
I would need just one big windfall!

While you are on the subject Mr. "Mike Duquette" I would like to do the same with you---buy you for what you REALLY know and sell you for what you THINK you know. I could have two windfalls and not have to work again (would never be dirt poor)
Known Fact

Orlando, FL

#114181 Oct 7, 2013
stuck in a lodi wrote:
<quoted text>
You've never posted facts either, known or otherwise.
Thank you for proving my point, you must be the {dumber} one of the duo.
PERSONAL
No! I'm not in cahoots with you in any respect!

“Breaking the spell ”

Since: Dec 10

of the puppet master

#114182 Oct 7, 2013
curious wrote:
<quoted text>
I made my allegations based on circumstantial evidence that I was able to glean from the postings on this thread.
Now , you all can let me know why one would register and hide their location. What is the purpose of hiding your location?
As I understand it , one's location is not hidden automatically.
One can choose to disclose their location or keep it secret.
If you wanted to prove me wrong , all you have to do is ,disclose your location.
I don't hide mine . you all know where I post from.
The fact that one of the former participants denied using more than one hidden moniker and ultimately admitting to having used 6 hidden monikers only adds fuel to the fire.
Having said that , you are all making a mountain out of a molehill.
To hide your monokers and post under different monikers is neither illegal or immoral.
At least not to my knowledge.
I brought it up as a topic of discussion and did not believe it would raise such a ruckus.
So , you may choose to disclose your location, or you may choose not to.
People have been known to stalk others on topix. Probably not the best idea to tell anyone just where you live.
If you think Moses was justified to murder people for what they worship, who knows what you would justify morally?

“Breaking the spell ”

Since: Dec 10

of the puppet master

#114183 Oct 7, 2013
Known Fact wrote:
<quoted text>
I would need just one big windfall!
While you are on the subject Mr. "Mike Duquette" I would like to do the same with you---buy you for what you REALLY know and sell you for what you THINK you know. I could have two windfalls and not have to work again (would never be dirt poor)
Still running I see.

“Breaking the spell ”

Since: Dec 10

of the puppet master

#114184 Oct 7, 2013
Known Fact wrote:
<quoted text>
I would need just one big windfall!
While you are on the subject Mr. "Mike Duquette" I would like to do the same with you---buy you for what you REALLY know and sell you for what you THINK you know. I could have two windfalls and not have to work again (would never be dirt poor)
Did you ever find the part in the bible were Moses kills three thousand people for simply worshiping something he does not believe in?

“Breaking the spell ”

Since: Dec 10

of the puppet master

#114185 Oct 7, 2013
Known Fact wrote:
<quoted text>
I would need just one big windfall!
While you are on the subject Mr. "Mike Duquette" I would like to do the same with you---buy you for what you REALLY know and sell you for what you THINK you know. I could have two windfalls and not have to work again (would never be dirt poor)
Says the person who thinks he knows what the correct religion to follow is.
Known Fact

Orlando, FL

#114186 Oct 7, 2013
Mike Duquette wrote:
<quoted text>Did you ever find the part in the bible were Moses kills three thousand people for simply worshiping something he does not believe in?
No! and neither have you!
curious

Winter Garden, FL

#114187 Oct 7, 2013
Spaceship earth wrote:
<quoted text>
The Christians like to have secrets. Take a look at the list.
1. Jimmy Swaggart. I don't even know where to start with this guy.
2. Jim Bakker was the founder of PTL ministries.
3. Father John J. Geoghan, deceased Catholic Priest, was accused by 130 people of sexual abuse and child molestation over a 30 year period. After being defrocked in 1998.
4.
5. Parker J. Bena, Conservative Republican activist and very important figure in getting GWB elected as President, plead guilty to charges of possessing child pornography and lying to the FBI.
6. Rep. Bob Allen of Florida. Not really sure if he's Evangelical, but certainly *conservative*, I'm adding him to the list because Mr. Allen's actions were not only skeezy, but racist as well. You see, Allen was arrested after allegedly offering an male undercover officer $20 to perform oral sex on him in a men's restroom.
Everyone's favorite, Reverend Ted Haggard. Haggard was the founder of the New Life Church in Colorado Springs. A *charismatic* pastor, Haggard was vocal about his anti-homosexual ideals, well, that is until he was outed by a male prostitute.
http://voices.yahoo.com/top-10-christian-cons...
Do any of those you mentioned post on this board?,,,No
Are any of them hiding their locations?,,,, No

Then stick to the topic at hand , disclose your locations and prove me wrong....Otherwisw , meinten gerden esendorf.

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