Bible study rules for public schools proposed

Feb 10, 2010 | Posted by: roboblogger | Full story: The Courier-Journal

FRANKFORT, Ky. - The state would create rules for teaching about the Bible in public high schools under a bill filed Monday by three Democratic senators.

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Atheists do not violate any of their rules because they don't have any rules. With them ,anything goes.
that is why Witchetty can proudly claim,to her shame , that she has never committed an act for which she needs feel ashamed.
That is the same thing she said while using one of her other monikers ,Kitten Kodder.
It would appear that is the self same reason why Atheists trust believers more than they do other atheists.
In a community where the moral code is selected by each individual to fit his or her desires , who can you trust?
In other words ,if I only fear the law ,and am conniving enough to commit my deeds without getting caught , then I supposedly am home free.
The mafia and other criminals are very adept at that tactic.
That is how human nature works.
As Christians , we arte not perfect ,but ,we are forgiven , because we confess to Our God and Jesus Christ that we are sinful by nature.
We acknowledge and confess our sinful nature.
Atheists claim that when they commit a wrong , they will go to the person they wronged and ask for forgiveness.
On paper that sounds good , in real life , it is a farce.
In my many years on this Earth I have never witnessed such an event.
Self righteousnes is a pollutant.
Human nature denies wrong doing ,it does not admit to it.
How many times have you seen a criminal admit to having committed a crime ,even with overwhelming evidence to his crime.
How many times have you done something wrong and denied having done it?
Do you believe witchetty when she claims to have never done anything for which she needs feel ashamed?
If you do , then you need submit her name so she can be cannonized.
Your first sentence, Wrong. Every time you assume something you do nothing but make an a$$ of yourself. What can one expect when the bible itself promotes hatred of the non believer in Psalm 14. It reality, the secular commit less violent crimes such as murder than that of the religious, according to a study conducted from the late 80's to as recent as 2009. 0.2% of prisoners in the USA were Atheist > If religion, prayer, or God-belief hindered criminal behavior, and secularity or atheism fostered lawlessness, we would expect to find the most religious nations having the lowest murder rates and the least religious nations having the highest. But we find just the opposite.
Murder rates are actually lower in more secular nations and higher in more religious nations where belief in God is deep and widespread.

Again, Show your sources and post the link that states Atheist trust believers more than other Atheist. If you cannot, then your statement has as much weight as an onion sack full of air!
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Wow, Such a brilliant display of Christianity!
That whole statement just added heat to your hell!
Christ called people Vipers, and Evil generation...
Nipple nose???
At least he didn't call you a Tard!
Tard!
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...and BTW, the CC wasn't started 300 years later, it was recognized by Roman leadership at that time.
The Jewish Bible was, and is correct before Catholic intervention, and the reformation clarified it!
Dead sea scrolls dating to 70ish AD proves the writings clear!
Constantine bastardized the Christian belief with paganism...
NOT the same Bible!
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You are right. I am not very good a trolling. Something that i don't practice .
Unlike others who shall remain unmentioned , that is not my chosen profession.
Nevertheless ,if I ever decide to take it up I hope to be able to call on you for your abundant expertise in that field.
In the meanwhile ,keep counting the days for the coming of your National Holiday, April the 1st...
Great post!
God Bless :-)
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I realize this is very difficult for your dim-witted, non-functioning cerebral cortex to grasp, so I will try to explain this so that you might finally understand,{not like this has been covered countless times}
Hypocrite: a person who claims or pretends to have certain beliefs about what is right but who behaves in a way that disagrees with those beliefs.
Curious has claimed that his religious beliefs are right, he has publicly announced that he is a firm believer in the bible, Christianity, and god/jesus and all the responsibilities and convictions that statement carries with it.
When confessing that belief, you then become responsible for your conduct, and your thoughts.
Now, with that being said, I never made these rules, your god did. It has been clearly noted on this thread that you Sista, Curious, and YaA defy those specific orders set in stone by the very one you "supposedly" pay homage to!
What part of this do you and your colleagues not understand?
And you guys THINK you're Tolerant, and Non-Bigoted???
Hypocrite fits you very well!

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Your comparing a business advertisement to a Scientific study performed by trained professionals of a reputable university
is beyond comprehension.
Your claim that I applaud bigotry and discrimination is equally absurd and shows your lack of comprehension.
" It's an analytic thing , you wouldn't understand."
The point being that your efforts and those of atheists, to push their religious Atheistic beliefs on an unsuspecting public is at the very least immoral.
Scientific studies point to the fact that Atheists have a greater amount of suicides ,are more likely to abuse drugs and alcohol ,have a greater risk of mental and other health issues than believers... Why is that?
On the positive side , 20% of atheists attend regular religious services. Why is that?
Atheists find Believers to be more trustworthy than their fellow atheists. Why is that?
Analyzing that data one would logically conclude that there is something inherently wrong with Atheism which causes IT'S MEMBERS
to have these inordinate amount of mental and behavioural problems.
Why , if they do not believe in God and his teachings , do they find it necessary to attend religious services?
Why do they trust believers more than they do their own?
Something in that equation that does not make sense, wouldn't you agree?
A survey is not strictly a "scientific study." The interpretation by an esteemed professor regarding a poll is more opinion than hard and fast black and white conclusion. Have you never heard that "Psychiatry is not an exact science"?
Do you choose to be selective in your understanding of social dynamics to prop up your assertions or are you merely incapable of discerning the various and embedded sociological factors? Either way, I surmise it would be a tedious and unfruitful chore to elaborate on them for you. For what reason would someone place an Icthys or a crucifix on their business advertisement? To promote an image of trustworthiness, of course - and being a long established practice, it is interwoven with the marketplace and hence, society. This transparent and overt usage is hardly askance of the study or "beyond comprehension." Do you find this use of the symbols acceptable when even the U.S. Flag Code prohibits the flag of being used for advertising? I've found that the more vocal the devout, the more difficult it is to determine the line between disingenuous and genuinely obtuse.(However, from exchanges with Topix Xtians and having been burned for $2,400 on a transmission from a fish and cross boasting shop owner, I'm leaning toward disingenuous.)
I do not attempt to push an atheistic 'belief'(whatever you think that is). I merely state my own disbelief in the wholesale and retail sets of FABRICATIONS that have been foisted upon the willing and hopeful drones.
I do not know why "they" attend religious services - the reasons could be assorted and surprising. Perhaps it is because of peer pressure, to accompany a family member or to appease and acquire contacts. Perhaps some are sincerely seeking a spiritual revelation. Does your >Bigotry and Prejudice< demand that you rail against them, too? On the positive side, you do realize that it indicates that a surprising number among the congregations are not dim enough to swallow what the clergy is dishing out?
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Several schools, districts, and individual teachers across the country are expected to promote Lesbian Gay Bisexual Transgender History Month to students during October.
But the Pacific Justice Institute is issuing a warning to parents, saying gay history in school is inappropriate.
The group points to the main website for LGBT history month, which highlights "historical figures" in the LGBT movement.
Among the usual activists and celebrities are individuals whose work is X-rated, including a man known for his contribution to gay porn and a bisexual erotic fiction author.
"It is deeply disturbing that the organizers of LGBT History Month think our kids should be celebrating homoerotic authors and porn producers," Brad Dacus, president of Pacific Justice Institute, said.
"This should be a serious wake-up call for anyone who still thinks gay history in schools is a good idea," he warned.
PJI Staff Attorney Matthew McReynolds added, "This is exactly why we fought California's gay history mandate a couple of years ago."
"We knew this was not about real history," he continued. "It was about pushing a political agenda and sexualizing kids at increasingly young ages. It is completely irresponsible for the organizers of this event to promote individuals whose work is utterly inappropriate for minors."

This is the lack of Morals shining Bright!

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<quoted text>The Jewish Bible was, and is correct before Catholic intervention, and the reformation clarified it!
Dead sea scrolls dating to 70ish AD proves the writings clear!
Constantine bastardized the Christian belief with paganism...
NOT the same Bible!
The "Jewish Bible" does not recognize Christ and you are CLEARLY NOT knowledgeable or objective enough to pronounce what is correct and what is moth-eaten propaganda. Primarily, the Protestant Reformation splintered the wealth and power base held by the papacy and its representatives, but it did not appreciably change the tenets and rituals that had been established in Constantinople and Rome. There are no New Testament references in the Dead Sea Scrolls, and only about 40% of them contain information regarding the Tanakh, anyway.
The bastardization started with Paul, but you are right that it sure as heck didn't end with him.

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Goat Lovers are next!
Several schools, districts, and individual teachers across the country are expected to promote Lesbian Gay Bisexual Transgender History Month to students during October.
But the Pacific Justice Institute is issuing a warning to parents, saying gay history in school is inappropriate.
The group points to the main website for LGBT history month, which highlights "historical figures" in the LGBT movement.
Among the usual activists and celebrities are individuals whose work is X-rated, including a man known for his contribution to gay porn and a bisexual erotic fiction author.
"It is deeply disturbing that the organizers of LGBT History Month think our kids should be celebrating homoerotic authors and porn producers," Brad Dacus, president of Pacific Justice Institute, said.
"This should be a serious wake-up call for anyone who still thinks gay history in schools is a good idea," he warned.
PJI Staff Attorney Matthew McReynolds added, "This is exactly why we fought California's gay history mandate a couple of years ago."
"We knew this was not about real history," he continued. "It was about pushing a political agenda and sexualizing kids at increasingly young ages. It is completely irresponsible for the organizers of this event to promote individuals whose work is utterly inappropriate for minors."
This is the lack of Morals shining Bright!
Good grief, when are we going to run out of "__________ History, Awareness and Appreciation" days/weeks/months? As it is, even Memorial Day has largely been relegated to lawn care and sweatpants sales. As far as your "moral" intolerance, well - we already know about that. You don't have to shove your hatefulness in our faces again, YaA.
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The Witch really kick your ass. See you had no God to help you out. You're not alone so don't cry. None of you wannabe bible thumpers are a match for atheists on this thread. You're out match by them. You're out match on any atheist forum.
Du whut is a good debater and more mature, he knew it was time to leave the thread. You and sistaNoNothing tic act like children here and are sorry debaters.
I hope you are enlighten by the Witch's replies to your sorry yapping. Keep yapping and atheists will have to take your ass to the shed for another spanking.
The Witch ,previously posting under one of her other monikers, UMMM
used that same tactic before , self proclaiming herself victorious through one of her goffers.
Anytime that you have to declare yourself victorious clearly shows
the you are standing on shaky ground.
You remind me of the guy who shows up with his nose broken ,eyes blackened and busted lips.
He claims he got into a fight and won.
he self proclaim himself the winner by stating
" You think my face looks bad , you should see the other guy.
I broke 3 of his knuckles when I Hit his fist with my face"
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Curious,, You are not debating your beliefs... All I see you posting is studies about Atheism, and such!
You stating that Atheist trust believers more then other non believers is based on your bias post, Show proof of this statement and not from some bias source. I too can research and find some poll or study to contradict your study!
Just because someone conducts a study, involving several hundred participants, does not make it correct when they publish their findings....As your Study was trying to convey to the general population! Go back and read it again w/out your bias opinion.
That study you posted was basically saying.... People in America are Conditioned to thinking Atheist or non believers are evil, and can't be trusted!
hey {boy named Sue} keep living in your Wonderland, perhaps Alice can introduce you to Mad Hatter!
HERE IS THE PROOF YOU REQUESTED.
If you can provide evidence to refute it do so.
If not , come in and get out of that kentucky rain. You are getting all wet.
The distrust of Atheists is not limited to believers.
Polls indicate that Nonbelievers trust believers more that they do Nonbelievers.
I find that to be amazing...
What would cause an Atheist to trust a believer more than he would a fellow Atheist?
There must be something inherent in Atheism that makes the Atheist feel veryh uncomfortable about trusting his own
Religious Believers Don’t Trust Atheists, Says New Study
By Kim Carollo
Dec 14, 2011 4:53pm
If an atheist ran for president, a recent poll suggests, he or she wouldn’t win many votes.
That might be at least partly because of the main reason religious people dislike atheists: They think nonbelievers can’t be trusted, according to a new study.
“Where there are religious majorities — that is, in most of the world — atheists are among the least trusted people,” said the study’s lead author, Will M. Gervais, a doctoral student at the University of British Columbia,
In six separate studies, the researchers asked 770 people – American adults and Canadian college students – a number of questions. In one study, when presented with a description of an untrustworthy person, participants said they believed that description represented atheists to a similar degree and wasn’t as representative of gays, feminists, Christians, Jews or Muslims.
Another co-author, the University of British Columbia’s Ara Norenzayan, said one of the reasons for doing the study was a recent poll that found that only 45 percent of Americans who responded would vote for an atheist presidential candidate. Those who were polled said atheists least represented their vision of America.

Atheists also tend to trust religious people more than they trust other atheists.
“Those people who did not identify with a religion still tended to find believers to be more trustworthy,” said the third co-author, Azim Shariff of the University of Oregon.

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The Witch ,previously posting under one of her other monikers, UMMM
used that same tactic before , self proclaiming herself victorious through one of her goffers.
Anytime that you have to declare yourself victorious clearly shows
the you are standing on shaky ground.
You remind me of the guy who shows up with his nose broken ,eyes blackened and busted lips.
He claims he got into a fight and won.
he self proclaim himself the winner by stating
" You think my face looks bad , you should see the other guy.
I broke 3 of his knuckles when I Hit his fist with my face"
No, you got your donkey handed to you. Don't feel bad tho, go on any discussion board and it's always the same. You have your intelligent posts then you have your bad grammar post screaming they didn't come from no damn monkey. Religion is dead, some of you just haven't gotten the memo yet. It wouldn't matter if Jesus was nailed to a boomerang, he still isn't coming back because he was never here.

Here's my prediction, 50-75 years from now all the different Christian religions will have to join together because your numbers will be to low to have different denominations. People just aren't buying into the BS anymore and they are tired of giving away their money for nothing in return.

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curious wrote:
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The Witch ,previously posting under one of her other monikers, UMMM
used that same tactic before , self proclaiming herself victorious through one of her goffers.
Anytime that you have to declare yourself victorious clearly shows
the you are standing on shaky ground.
You remind me of the guy who shows up with his nose broken ,eyes blackened and busted lips.
He claims he got into a fight and won.
he self proclaim himself the winner by stating
" You think my face looks bad , you should see the other guy.
I broke 3 of his knuckles when I Hit his fist with my face"
And yet here you are jabbing at shadows and tilting at windmills.
You can't tell the difference between WitW and Ummm, yet expect to be credited with having superior insights on that plus any and all other matters? LOL! You'd be wrong.

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Atheists do not violate any of their rules because they don't have any rules. With them ,anything goes.
that is why Witchetty can proudly claim,to her shame , that she has never committed an act for which she needs feel ashamed.
That is the same thing she said while using one of her other monikers ,Kitten Kodder.
It would appear that is the self same reason why Atheists trust believers more than they do other atheists.
In a community where the moral code is selected by each individual to fit his or her desires , who can you trust?
In other words ,if I only fear the law ,and am conniving enough to commit my deeds without getting caught , then I supposedly am home free.
The mafia and other criminals are very adept at that tactic.
That is how human nature works.
As Christians , we arte not perfect ,but ,we are forgiven , because we confess to Our God and Jesus Christ that we are sinful by nature.
We acknowledge and confess our sinful nature.
Atheists claim that when they commit a wrong , they will go to the person they wronged and ask for forgiveness.
On paper that sounds good , in real life , it is a farce.
In my many years on this Earth I have never witnessed such an event.
Self righteousnes is a pollutant.
Human nature denies wrong doing ,it does not admit to it.
How many times have you seen a criminal admit to having committed a crime ,even with overwhelming evidence to his crime.
How many times have you done something wrong and denied having done it?
Do you believe witchetty when she claims to have never done anything for which she needs feel ashamed?
If you do , then you need submit her name so she can be cannonized.
In a way, atheists do make their own rules. But if they break their own rules, they are a hypocrite.
You can trust an atheist if he keeps good rules for himself and follows them consistently. If you judge his morals upon the idea of his atheism, you are being prejudiced by the definition of the word.
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Spaceship earth wrote:
Congratulations atheists… you are more well-behaved than the rest of society.
No, this isn’t a “pat you on the back” piece. But, I think it’s important for us to remember that we ARE moral people that know how to be good citizens without a divine babysitter telling us what’s right and wrong. And, there is evidence to show that this is correct.
Prisons released the following numbers in 1997 under the Freedom of Information Act. take a look:
Response Number %
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Catholic 29267 39.164%
Protestant 26162 35.008%
Muslim 5435 7.273%
American Indian 2408 3.222%
Nation 1734 2.320%
Rasta 1485 1.987%
Jewish 1325 1.773%
Church of Christ 1303 1.744%
Pentecostal 1093 1.463%
Moorish 1066 1.426%
Buddhist 882 1.180%
Jehovah Witness 665 0.890%
Adventist 621 0.831%
Orthodox 375 0.502%
Mormon 298 0.399%
Scientology 190 0.254%
Atheist 156 0.209%
Hindu 119 0.159%
Santeria 117 0.157%
Sikh 14 0.019%
Bahai 9 0.012%
Krishna 7 0.009%
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http://www.atheismresource.com/2010/atheist-d...
Scientology has less offenders in prisons than the group that YAA , the dipstick curious and the idiot sistaTic_ protestant herd_tic hater_tic has.
And they say you cannot trust an atheist, how hyprocracy of religion is show by this study.
I am glad to hear that atheists compose a small number of the Prison population as opposed to Believers
Several things to keep in perspective.
Believing in a God is meaningless.
If the devil were in jail , he would be counted among the believers.
So would his followers.
The important issue is not to merely believe that God exists , but to follow and obey his teachings to the best of your ability and as guided by the holy spirit.
Moreover , Once a criminal is sentenced to jail he has to adapt to a particular segment of the prison population.
African Americans tend to ally themselves with the Muslims ,Whites with Christians and so on.
Most of the time this is not a true conversion . It is done in order to survive in a lawless environment
Atheists have to take this into consideration and may want to
claim to belong to a particular religion for selfish reasons , especially when it comes to Parole Hearings.
True Belief in God is not based on convenience , it is based on your having sought him and depending on your personal experiences you can then decide ,in a logical manner , after evaluating what may or may not have occured ,whether you want to enter into arelationship with him.
You are not forced into this relationship , you are invited.

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Yes and Amen wrote:
<quoted text>The Jewish Bible was, and is correct before Catholic intervention, and the reformation clarified it!
Dead sea scrolls dating to 70ish AD proves the writings clear!
Constantine bastardized the Christian belief with paganism...
NOT the same Bible!
The Jews wrote nothing of Jesus, so I am not sure what you think is so correct about it? The Dead sea scrolls does not confirm your version of Jesus.
The Catholic church burned many writings of Jesus in order to keep their version of the story intact.
Now you guys can war, as you have, over just what Jesus said, but it is all hearsay anyways.

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I am glad to hear that atheists compose a small number of the Prison population as opposed to Believers
Several things to keep in perspective.
Believing in a God is meaningless.
If the devil were in jail , he would be counted among the believers.
So would his followers.
The important issue is not to merely believe that God exists , but to follow and obey his teachings to the best of your ability and as guided by the holy spirit.
Moreover , Once a criminal is sentenced to jail he has to adapt to a particular segment of the prison population.
African Americans tend to ally themselves with the Muslims ,Whites with Christians and so on.
Most of the time this is not a true conversion . It is done in order to survive in a lawless environment
Atheists have to take this into consideration and may want to
claim to belong to a particular religion for selfish reasons , especially when it comes to Parole Hearings.
True Belief in God is not based on convenience , it is based on your having sought him and depending on your personal experiences you can then decide ,in a logical manner , after evaluating what may or may not have occured ,whether you want to enter into arelationship with him.
You are not forced into this relationship , you are invited.
Your religion would be small if not for the force of the inquisitions and crusades. And this is just part of the survival part of the equation. Kids follow their parents religion just as those in jail follow the religion of their piers.
Religion is of indoctrination. Good to see you note that fact.

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Mike Duquette wrote:
<quoted text>The Jews wrote nothing of Jesus, so I am not sure what you think is so correct about it? The Dead sea scrolls does not confirm your version of Jesus.
The Catholic church burned many writings of Jesus in order to keep their version of the story intact.
Now you guys can war, as you have, over just what Jesus said, but it is all hearsay anyways.
Nothing to do with your post.
Just thought you might like this,

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No, you got your donkey handed to you. Don't feel bad tho, go on any discussion board and it's always the same. You have your intelligent posts then you have your bad grammar post screaming they didn't come from no damn monkey. Religion is dead, some of you just haven't gotten the memo yet. It wouldn't matter if Jesus was nailed to a boomerang, he still isn't coming back because he was never here.
Here's my prediction, 50-75 years from now all the different Christian religions will have to join together because your numbers will be to low to have different denominations. People just aren't buying into the BS anymore and they are tired of giving away their money for nothing in return.
This is already happening. Just look at the non denominational mega churches.
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No, you got your donkey handed to you. Don't feel bad tho, go on any discussion board and it's always the same. You have your intelligent posts then you have your bad grammar post screaming they didn't come from no damn monkey. Religion is dead, some of you just haven't gotten the memo yet. It wouldn't matter if Jesus was nailed to a boomerang, he still isn't coming back because he was never here.
Here's my prediction, 50-75 years from now all the different Christian religions will have to join together because your numbers will be to low to have different denominations. People just aren't buying into the BS anymore and they are tired of giving away their money for nothing in return.
Yours must be the face that broke my 3 knuckles.

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Said inmate was tutored by DR. Timothy Leary in the ingestion of mind altering drugs.
Although not cosidered a danger to society , he is considered a danger to himself.
His feeble mind has convinced him that he can predict future events.
He has sent out imaginary memos to the effect that religion is dead.
When questioned by those who have not received the memo ,as to why they have not received it he gives the same reason he gives bill collectors when they ask for payment.
It's in the mail.
Any one knowing his whereabouts is asked to contact us at 866 532 1178.
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