Bible study rules for public schools ...

Bible study rules for public schools proposed

There are 141440 comments on the The Courier-Journal story from Feb 10, 2010, titled Bible study rules for public schools proposed. In it, The Courier-Journal reports that:

FRANKFORT, Ky. - The state would create rules for teaching about the Bible in public high schools under a bill filed Monday by three Democratic senators.

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SiserNoneYa

London, KY

#113107 Sep 15, 2013
tema wrote:
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Murder is the unjust killing of a person.
You have made the egregious error of assuming murder where none occured.
In my opinion ,your error in reaching the wrong conclusion can be attributed to 1 of 3 reasons.
Either;
1)you did not read all that is included in The Book of Deuteronomy ,
2) You read it and failed to grasp the reasons for the rules and commandments
3)You arbitrarily ignored the facts contained in the Book
That would lead one to conclude that the basis for your allegations are very weak and totally baseless.
God gave explicit instructions as to how those whom He freed from bondage should conduct themselves and what their relationship to Him must be if they were to fare well in the land he gave them.
He put a blessing and a curse before them.
The rules and commandments were given , so that if they adhered to His Commandments all would go well with them.
Everyone was made well aware of the rules and the consecuences for disobedience.
When all these rules and commandments were explained to all the people , they declared AMEN.
All these rules and commandments are enumerated in the Book of Deuteronomy.
To those who believe in God, the rules ,commandments and the punishment applicable for disobedience made sense then and make sense now.
To those who do not believe in God , the rules and commandments do not make sense because they are unable to grasp their importance and significance and the role they play in our relationship with God
And I would ask of you, exactly what it is you are basing your ideologies upon?

Should others believe in a different realm(s) of "Qutb"(s) would you consider them kafirs, rather than respecting beliefs that might be different?
While I persnally think humanity SHOULD abide by codes of civil decency, ethics, integrity, respect of and for others, and other GOOD qualities-
I find many of the types of "punishments"and behaviors practiced in the ways of the Old Testament, to be very barbaric and brutal, cruel and inhumane, with out any goodness or enlightenment...instead being rather ignorant and animalistic.
SiserNoneYa

London, KY

#113108 Sep 15, 2013
Mike Duquette wrote:
<quoted text>I understand the tale. I see no mystery here. Seems you guys
Just think it is ok in some circumstances to kill due to religious beliefs or preaching. It is never justified to kill over. And Until you get that, this religious dogma will forever haunt your religion. It is one large reason people are becoming atheist.
Due to 9/11 some introspecting their own beliefs and seeing immoral concepts such as this. It is the sort of dogma that lead to 9/11.
I cannot think of a more direct example that should illustrate the story is of no moral god, and thus likely no god at all.
But please give giving excuses for your gods immoral behavior. It will enlighten someone eventually to the denial needed to have faith.
Now, Let me ask YOU Duquette...what it is that you find so UNjust, or immoral about these verse?
I find them to be quite peaceful, full of TRUTH and GOODness, not hatred and vileness.

1 Corinthians 13
1If I could speak all the languages of earth and of angels, but didnít love others, I would only be a noisy gong or a clanging cymbal. 2If I had the gift of prophecy, and if I understood all of Godís secret plans and possessed all knowledge, and if I had such faith that I could move mountains, but didnít love others, I would be nothing. 3If I gave everything I have to the poor and even sacrificed my body, I could boast about it;a but if I didnít love others, I would have gained nothing.

4Love is patient and kind. Love is not jealous or boastful or proud 5or rude. It does not demand its own way. It is not irritable, and it keeps no record of being wronged. 6It does not rejoice about injustice but rejoices whenever the truth wins out. 7Love never gives up, never loses faith, is always hopeful, and endures through every circumstance.

8Prophecy and speaking in unknown languagesb and special knowledge will become useless. But love will last forever! Now our knowledge is partial and incomplete, and even the gift of prophecy reveals only part of the whole picture! 1But when the time of perfection comes, these partial things will become useless.

11When I was a child, I spoke and thought and reasoned as a child. But when I grew up, I put away childish things. 12Now we see things imperfectly, like puzzling reflections in a mirror, but then we will see everything with perfect clarity.c All that I know now is partial and incomplete, but then I will know everything completely, just as God now knows me completely.

13Three things will last foreverófaith, hope, and loveóand the greatest of these is love.
SiserNoneYa

London, KY

#113109 Sep 15, 2013
Mike Duquette wrote:
<quoted text>Ok, now would you like to say why this matters?
Because inanimate books do not harm others directly.

Sick in the head and Warped people however, DO.
overdue 4 justice

Hyden, KY

#113110 Sep 15, 2013
religious literacy wrote:
this could be a good thing for the state of Kentucky - there needs to be some structure around how people teach religion in our schools.
I Totally agree
SiserNoneYa

London, KY

#113111 Sep 15, 2013
Mike Duquette wrote:
<quoted text>Ok, now would you like to say why this matters?
And people do not neccessarily extract such vileness from any one specific "book". Far from it.

Vengeance and hatred are ugly, ugly attributes, and are easily propagated like the poisons of ignorance that they are.
SiserNoneYa

London, KY

#113112 Sep 15, 2013
Mike Duquette wrote:
<quoted text>Ok, now would you like to say why this matters?
Therefor, implementing ANY (and I do mean ANY) sort of "coercive" means to manipulate others-Especially to Terrorize them, is WRONG.

Wrong, wrong, sick in the head, wrong.

“Speaker of Mountain Wisdom....”

Since: Jan 10

Monticello, KY

#113113 Sep 15, 2013
SiserNoneYa wrote:
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Therefor, implementing ANY (and I do mean ANY) sort of "coercive" means to manipulate others-Especially to Terrorize them, is WRONG.
Wrong, wrong, sick in the head, wrong.
You mean like telling little kids that if they don't except jesus as their savior and believe in god they will burn forever in a lake of fire in hell? Is that what you mean by "implementing ANY (and I do mean ANY) sort of "coercive" means to manipulate others-Especially to Terrorize them."
Yes and Amen

Stanton, KY

#113114 Sep 15, 2013
idk wrote:
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well if u were an atheist u will be goin to hell just like the rest of the atheist....blasphemy of the holy ghost and suicide are the only 2 unforgivable sins so u my friend are hell bound whether u believe now or not....lol
Untrue!
Did you read about the Prodigal Son?
Jesus CLEARLY makes a point with it!
You CAN screw up, and still be forgiven!
Live n learn, or come back with more stupidity!
Have a Great day!
Yes and Amen

Stanton, KY

#113115 Sep 15, 2013
aWitchintheWoods wrote:
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When did I (or anyone here) ever say that a rock created Life?
<quoted text>
Proof please. A myth in an old book does not constitute proof, old man.
<quoted text>
Give me a few billion years and I can.
<quoted text>
Given the enormity of time and space, random chance works.
Your simple limited mind can't accept that.
<quoted text>
Yet you claim to see what is not there.
<quoted text>
It was. Aren't we a lucky species?
<quoted text>
Let me see....
You believe in an invisible superbeing for which there is only your personal "experience."
I use reason and logic based on evidence.
Umm.. I THINK I am.
<quoted text>
**patting your hand** Of course you do.....
<quoted text>
When I need a good laugh, I will.
Whatever you want to believe... I know the truth!
Good luck with your self righteousness!
Yes and Amen

Stanton, KY

#113116 Sep 15, 2013
idk wrote:
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Mark 3:29 - But whoever blasphemes against the Holy Spirit will never be forgiven; he is guilty of an eternal sin.
Thank God for His Grace!
I guess I never did that, because He still saved me!
Amen!
Yes and Amen

Stanton, KY

#113117 Sep 15, 2013
curious wrote:
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Yes and Amen wrote:
<quoted text> You can put ALL the chemicals, and proteins together, and not make a simple amoeba!
Witch Wrote ;Give me a few billion years and I can.
Says I; OK. you are on,starting right now. I expect you will have a response by Friday September 13 ,A few billion years from today 2013. In case I am not here , leave me a message. Tutsi stunatz
Yes and Amen wrote:
<quoted text> The complexity of life had to be planned, and accomplished by someone...
Witch wrote; Given the enormity of time and space, random chance works.
Your simple limited mind can't accept that.
Says I; Given the enormous amount of empty space between your ears , you have opted to fill that space with nonsense and gibberish.
Yes and Amen wrote:
<quoted text> to claim it was a roll of the dice!
Witch wrote ;It was. Aren't we a lucky species?
No, we are a blessed species , ctreated by OUR GOD
Yes and Amen wrote:
<quoted text> The funny part is... The "Rationally challenged"
You don't THINK you are!
With wrote ;Let me see....
You believe in an invisible superbeing for which there is only your personal "experience."
Says I;No, we have the personal experience of millions of people to which they unashamedly attest
Witch wrote ;I use reason and logic based on evidence.
Umm.. I THINK I am.
Says I ; Your admission that "you think you are" is a clear indication that you are not all there LOL
Yes and Amen wrote:
<quoted text>PS
Try to visit discovery.org once in a while!
When I need a good laugh, I will.
Talking about having a good laugh;
An Atheist stood before God and asked; Oh GOD,What is a million years like to you?
God answered; A million years to me is like 1 second.
The Atheist then asked;Oh God , what is a million dollars like to you?
God answered; A million dfollars to me is like 1 pennjy.
The Atheist then asked God; Will you please give me a penny?
God answered, Give me a second to think about it.
Great post!
God Bless you, and yours!:-)
Yes and Amen

Stanton, KY

#113118 Sep 15, 2013
tema wrote:
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I would like to know where God demanded that anyone be murdered.
Do you know the definition of murder?
Interesting point!
To murder, you have to lay in wait for innocent blood!
God told them up front what NOT to do, just as our judicial system does... Do this... get that!
We did that, and the Grace of God, in Jesus the Christ,
and Faith in Him taking our sins upon Himself!
Case closed!
Thank you Jesus... AMEN!
Yes and Amen

Stanton, KY

#113119 Sep 15, 2013
D Woman frankfort wrote:
i just want to let the public know i am teaching sunday school at my church i will try learning all the little girls and boys about the bible and show them how to be decent.something i know there parent havn't show them.
God Bless You!
:-)
Yes and Amen

Stanton, KY

#113120 Sep 15, 2013
Quantummist wrote:
Nice!
SistaNoneYa

London, KY

#113121 Sep 15, 2013
Quantummist wrote:
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You mean like telling little kids that if they don't except jesus as their savior and believe in god they will burn forever in a lake of fire in hell? Is that what you mean by "implementing ANY (and I do mean ANY) sort of "coercive" means to manipulate others-Especially to Terrorize them."
Threatening people with any sort of "hellisness", be it on earth or elsewhere, as a means of manipulation, ESPECIALLY for immoral motivations, I would considered to be "terrorising", yes.
Yes and Amen

Stanton, KY

#113122 Sep 15, 2013
Mike Duquette wrote:
<quoted text>Problem is, you seem to think that joke is somehow based upon a reality.
"Problem is"... It's not a joke, and you cannot say it's not reality!
Well... you can, but you'd be wrong like always!
Good luck with that!
SistaNoneYa

London, KY

#113123 Sep 15, 2013
Quantummist wrote:
<quoted text>
You mean like telling little kids that if they don't except jesus as their savior and believe in god they will burn forever in a lake of fire in hell? Is that what you mean by "implementing ANY (and I do mean ANY) sort of "coercive" means to manipulate others-Especially to Terrorize them."
Is that you stalking me, clicking those little duhm icons on a-n-y-t-h-i-n-g I post (even if I posted FACT, like while looking out my window on a beautiful, clear summer day that the "grass is green and the sky is blue") like some sort of freak Q?
Nt that it even matters (because I could care less) but... that kind obsessive stalker type of stuff, just is NOT right in the head dude.
SistaNoneYa

London, KY

#113124 Sep 15, 2013
Quantummist wrote:
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You mean like telling little kids that if they don't except jesus as their savior and believe in god they will burn forever in a lake of fire in hell? Is that what you mean by "implementing ANY (and I do mean ANY) sort of "coercive" means to manipulate others-Especially to Terrorize them."
and just for the REAL records-

That kind of hateful manipulative warped type junk-was NEVER spewed at me.

E-V-E-R.

We were just taught respect of and for others, and that there were certain standards of behavior expected from us...to have some ethics and decency, and to try and obey the civil laws, etc etc.
Yes and Amen

Stanton, KY

#113125 Sep 15, 2013
SistaNoneYa wrote:
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However, I will agree with you on this.
Mostly because debts are not the only tresspasses (ie:sins) people make in this old world (be they intentional or unintentional).
The Geneva (1599) Bible says it this way, Debts, and Debtors!
One version I read, said Debts, and sins against us!
I don't really care, as I know of what it is saying, and
Mike just wants to hear his voice... even when it's ridiculous!
Yes and Amen

Stanton, KY

#113126 Sep 15, 2013
Fair wrote:
Lol at God writing the Bible. The Bible was written by men. It says so itself. Those men who wrote it do claim devine inspiration, and they believed God guided them -or we believe that to be so.
Ifvthe bible is taught in schools then so be the holy koran and every othet religious text. Fair is fair.
I'd like to see that too, as too many young fall for the lies od Islam!
God Bless the Children!

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