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Bible study rules for public schools proposed

There are 179985 comments on the The Courier-Journal story from Feb 10, 2010, titled Bible study rules for public schools proposed. In it, The Courier-Journal reports that:

FRANKFORT, Ky. - The state would create rules for teaching about the Bible in public high schools under a bill filed Monday by three Democratic senators.

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“Breaking the spell ”

Since: Dec 10

of the puppet master

#112527 Sep 6, 2013
do whut wrote:
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No, I threaten my kids with toys taken away or time out, no iPad or TV time, etc.
God doesn't get involved with every detail that happens on earth. He lets us choose and intervenes when He is humbly asked, or if it is necessary to fulfill His plans. This is why He gave us the Holy Ghost. So we can receive personal revelation regarding ourselves and our families to know how to act when we are uncertain or afraid.
So you think this ear repair helps his plan? Seems it just makes you look a superstitious, gullible person. Not sure how that helps his plan.

Of course you do not threaten killing your kids. It would be immoral to do so. Yet you follow a god that does this very immoral act. Double standards.

You seem to not understand that double standards only show the likelihood of something false. Every double standard you show, tells me your beliefs are false. You show the constantly.

BTW, dictators use the same technique you cited for your god. Fear. Now humbly ask your dictator to help you, but of course he will only do so if it furthers his goals. It really has nothing to do with being good. It is all agenda based, and selfish.

Since: Aug 13

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#112528 Sep 6, 2013
Spaceship earth wrote:
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Jesus must of went of the deep end also with most of his time socialising with protitutes, tax-collectors and other undesirables. We are told in the gospels that he talked to them and ate with them regularly.
You're not special.. You basically have nothing to say that's except you are self righteous just like the pharisees.
One may say that Jesus wemt off the deep end by socializing with those that his mission was to reach.
He came to call sinners , not the self righteous , to repentance.
In essence he went off the deep end to throw a lifeline to those who were drowning in their immoral iniquities.
As he said" I came so you may have life and have it more abundantly"
The comedians you admire were crude ,insulting ,ill mannered , mocked women ,homosexuals and those afflicted by Aids.
Compassion for the less fortunate was not part of their comedy routine.
Their personal lives were a disaster.
Those are facts that can not be denied and have nothing to do with self righteousness.
You have stated that " I see you're familiar with some of my favorite comedians. I prefer them over the religious ones you hang with"
Therefore you are in agreement with their lewd comedy
and prefer them over the religious ones I supposedly hang around with.
When you jumped off the deep end , based on what you wrote ,it was to wallow in the mire with them , not in order that they may lead a more productive and abundant life.
At least , that is how I interpreted what you wrote.
You further stated that "You don't have to believe in God to have a moral compass."
The comedians in question , Sam Kinnison , Rodney Dangerfield ,
George Carlin did not believe in God and based on their professsional and personal lives had no moral compass.
At least that is my interpretation of the facts at my disposal.
BTW I have no use for the Pharisees or the self righteous.
There are fools who may claim to have led sinless lives and have no reason to repent.
I make no such claims
SistaNoneYa

Mount Vernon, KY

#112529 Sep 6, 2013
ChromiuMan wrote:
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Of course, YaA. All one needs to "understand" it is to turn off their brain and pick up a Bible - and I'm sure it wouldn't hurt if they chronically imbibe enough dollar store cough syrup to embalm a mule.
You know what Chromolio--if it WORKS in the RIGHT way, for the GOOD and well being of, then it sure cannot be Bad!!!

Why would any DECENT, rational, logical anfd ethical person have any issue with that?

They wouldn't. Only haters and those of no tolerance or patience would.
And to the hell of their own miserable doings with those types.

“Speaker of Mountain Wisdom....”

Since: Jan 10

http://www.pixoto.com/quantumm

#112530 Sep 6, 2013
Yes and Amen wrote:
<quoted text>Of course...
There are writing from the early church fathers that pretty much validate Jesus' existence!
No they don't... They are Written long after the time... They would validate it if they had maybe scribbled a note on a wall, pot, clay tablet when he walked on water that made note of such a miraculous event when it happened... To write down "There Once was this guy that walked on water" 100 years later does not validate anything...

“Breaking the spell ”

Since: Dec 10

of the puppet master

#112531 Sep 6, 2013
do whut wrote:
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They were convinced at the time,(they even built an altar to Him along the way) but not being in God's presence, once hardship hit, they abandoned Him quickly. That's why I call them weak.
I don't expect Muslim extremists to stop killing Christians any more than I expect communists to stop hating the US.
Christians have not been charged to kill others with opposing beliefs. We don't justify murder because we are told not to murder. The people of the Old Testament lived under different laws than Christians today, but very similar to other civilizations that existed at the time. It wasn't uncommon for civilizations to kill anyone that threatened their way of life, any outsider.
Countries weren't setup back then with international rules.
So "they" (Moses' followers) are all lumped together, the way you describe it, just as you just lumped together all communists and Muslims. Yet I am sure you are not lumping all Christians together today, as it is well known that history shows Christians did kill non believers for not believing. The history of the inquisitions is the highlight of this act.
SistaNoneYa

Mount Vernon, KY

#112532 Sep 6, 2013
ChromiuMan wrote:
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The Bible doesn't say a damned thing about fossils or deposition layers, ya demented nit.
And stay out of Syria.
Why would it? It's not a science book for goodness sake.

(We have NO business lobbing anything into Syria whatsoever! Simple choice-promote MORE anarchy like that of what we've seen in Libya-or let the U.N. and if need be International Interpol do their jobs via democratic and PEACEFUL means!! Because they've done it before in place like Alegeria!)

“Breaking the spell ”

Since: Dec 10

of the puppet master

#112533 Sep 6, 2013
do whut wrote:
<quoted text>
They were convinced at the time,(they even built an altar to Him along the way) but not being in God's presence, once hardship hit, they abandoned Him quickly. That's why I call them weak.
I don't expect Muslim extremists to stop killing Christians any more than I expect communists to stop hating the US.
Christians have not been charged to kill others with opposing beliefs. We don't justify murder because we are told not to murder. The people of the Old Testament lived under different laws than Christians today, but very similar to other civilizations that existed at the time. It wasn't uncommon for civilizations to kill anyone that threatened their way of life, any outsider.
Countries weren't setup back then with international rules.
Yes, civilizations kill those that threaten their way of life. Not just in the past, but still today. Do you not read the news?

“Speaker of Mountain Wisdom....”

Since: Jan 10

http://www.pixoto.com/quantumm

#112534 Sep 6, 2013
SistaNoneYa wrote:
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Are you saying Mark Twain wasn't a real person?
Bad example...but then again on second thought....
Why lookie here kids..."they" really was a Mark Twain that walked this earth!!!
http://www.biography.com/people/mark-twain-95...
duhmmy.
"You cannot have a rational, logical debate with a irrational, illogical person"

Thanks for just verifying my quote....
SistaNoneYa

Mount Vernon, KY

#112535 Sep 6, 2013
Mike Duquette wrote:
<quoted text>Yes, I see you fail to comprehend my point. You cannot know, you simply believe. You keep insisting you know, but this is ingenuous.
What's up Duquette?

Peace, not lunaTic war!

“Breaking the spell ”

Since: Dec 10

of the puppet master

#112536 Sep 6, 2013
do whut wrote:
<quoted text>
They were convinced at the time,(they even built an altar to Him along the way) but not being in God's presence, once hardship hit, they abandoned Him quickly. That's why I call them weak.
I don't expect Muslim extremists to stop killing Christians any more than I expect communists to stop hating the US.
Christians have not been charged to kill others with opposing beliefs. We don't justify murder because we are told not to murder. The people of the Old Testament lived under different laws than Christians today, but very similar to other civilizations that existed at the time. It wasn't uncommon for civilizations to kill anyone that threatened their way of life, any outsider.
Countries weren't setup back then with international rules.
Not sure what your point is about international rules?
Up until America actually started as the United States, it was a practice to kill unbelievers. Some called them witches.
The constitution made for the path to worship any god you wished, even if it were of witchcraft. So it does not look as if Christianity made for the rules of not killing non believers, it looks like secularism made this rule.
SistaNoneYa

Mount Vernon, KY

#112537 Sep 6, 2013
Quantummist wrote:
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No they don't... They are Written long after the time... They would validate it if they had maybe scribbled a note on a wall, pot, clay tablet when he walked on water that made note of such a miraculous event when it happened... To write down "There Once was this guy that walked on water" 100 years later does not validate anything...
How do you know they didn't fashion some sort of water ski type "shoes" out of reeds back then?

You don't, so there.

Since: Aug 10

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#112538 Sep 6, 2013
Mike Duquette wrote:
<quoted text>Being a manner of a group that is the head of things......it's polytheism. Is it really such a bad word?
I worship God the Father and Jesus the Christ. I have no problem with you calling it polytheism. It does not change what I do in the least.

Since: Aug 10

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#112539 Sep 6, 2013
Mike Duquette wrote:
<quoted text>I get that you "feel" the book says something in it that proves me wrong, but I note you can't pinpoint it.
Which part do you wish me to prove wrong, in specific?

“Breaking the spell ”

Since: Dec 10

of the puppet master

#112540 Sep 6, 2013
do whut wrote:
<quoted text>
They were convinced at the time,(they even built an altar to Him along the way) but not being in God's presence, once hardship hit, they abandoned Him quickly. That's why I call them weak.
So humans are weak. Does it justify murder? Not in my moral opinion.

You keep insisting their is only one possibility to this situation. When their are always more than one possibility to a situation. Thus you sound unreasonable and irrational.

One possibility is, the persons in question were not so into the whole building of the alter to god in the instance you cited. They were just a few out of huge group, or so the claim is. It is a possibility they were just following the group, as this is what humans typically do. So when the Moses seemingly abandoned them, they abandoned the ideas he pushed on them. They went back to the god they believed in before.

Take the outsiders test on this. Imagine you were raised a Christian and then converted for some reason to Islam. Then you realized Islam might not be the true religion. So you go back to Christianity. Now would it be a capital punishment crime for your flip flop of beliefs? Of course not, as that would be a seriously immoral punishment.

“Breaking the spell ”

Since: Dec 10

of the puppet master

#112541 Sep 6, 2013
SistaNoneYa wrote:
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What's up Duquette?
Peace, not lunaTic war!
What? Can you ever articulate a full thought? Or maybe this shows the tiny extent of your thoughts?

Am I for lunatic war? Is this your question? The answer is no. This is why I keep pointing to Iraq as an example. But you keep defending that war, so I assume you are pro-lunatic war.

Since: Aug 10

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#112542 Sep 6, 2013
Mike Duquette wrote:
<quoted text>I get that you "feel" the book says something in it that proves me wrong, but I note you can't pinpoint it.
Matthew 7:21
John 3:5

These are just a couple. There are many more that teach us what is necessary for entering the Kingdom of Heaven.

“Breaking the spell ”

Since: Dec 10

of the puppet master

#112543 Sep 6, 2013
Known Fact wrote:
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Where or what is your proof?
You have absolutely no idea what you are saying! Did you know the Apostle Luke was a doctor and the Apostle Paul was an attorney? Moses was a leader of some 3 million Israelites? David and Solomon were kings and many were prophets who stated accurate prophecy into the future even down to our day!
Those who took the ideas of superstition and used it for power and wrote the rules, are not necessarily the ones who imagined the concept originally.

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#112544 Sep 6, 2013
Mike Duquette wrote:
<quoted text>Again the more likely truth is, no one actually witnessed the claimed miracles.
Yes, capital punishment is harsh for worship. Just as Muslims are wrong for doing it to Christians. Well I guess that are just following the lead of Moses. Humans learn by example. Tell your god that.
Good thing Jesus was sent to bring back the higher law and set the example for us.

Since: Aug 10

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#112545 Sep 6, 2013
Mike Duquette wrote:
<quoted text>No gods use any terminology. Gods do not exist.
Didn't think you could. Therefore your justification for offending others is weak at best.

“See how you are?”

Since: Jul 12

Earth

#112546 Sep 6, 2013
Yes and Amen wrote:
<quoted text>No, but...
Making the rest of us pay taxes, and Not giving us the vouchers to send our children to better schools is un-fare!
Government shouldn't even be in the Public school business, as
we see how they muck everything up they touch!
Render unto Caesar, A-hole. You are part of a larger society - deal with it.
How about vouchers to pay for your own Jesus police, vouchers to build your own private religie roads and vouchers to pay your tax deductible tithes? How about we trash and burn the reference section from the libraries and restock them with vouchers for the local Christian bookstores? Ya babbling Faux brained twit.

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