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Bible study rules for public schools proposed

There are 168764 comments on the The Courier-Journal story from Feb 10, 2010, titled Bible study rules for public schools proposed. In it, The Courier-Journal reports that:

FRANKFORT, Ky. - The state would create rules for teaching about the Bible in public high schools under a bill filed Monday by three Democratic senators.

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#112335 Sep 3, 2013
Mike Duquette wrote:
<quoted text>Yes, all religions have the same criteria, just have blind faith. This is why you fail to take the outsiders test. You have no test, you just have faith. So why you continue to give apologetics seems strange.
I don't see how one can take such a test other than what I described that I had done. If this isn't enough for you then I'm sorry. I see no need to repeat my previous actions after receiving an answer. This would be like continuing to look for your keys once you found them.

I don't have blind faith, I have confirmed, active faith. I hope you are able to find it yourself someday. Maybe you could take an outsiders test.

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#112336 Sep 3, 2013
Spaceship earth wrote:
I guess this was supposed to be a secret, somebody is spilling the beans. Interesting to know.

Brigham Young's doctrine of the godhead is one of the best-kept secrets of Mormonism.

Note:
A modern Mormon who teaches the doctrine that Adam is God is likely to be threatened with excommunication.

Only in private do modern Mormon authorities admit that, indeed, Brigham Young did teach this doctrine.

Brigham Young's doctrine consists of several elements, which must be put together from several of his utterances:

Adam came to this earth from another planet as a resurrected being.

Adam is the primary "organizer" (creator) of this world.

Adam is the father (creator) of our spirits, in addition to being our physical ancestor.

Adam is the physical father of Jesus.

Adam is also known as "Michael" and "the Ancient of Days." The term is used in the Bible to refer to God (Dan 7:9, 13, 22, also see Rev 1:14).
This teaching is contradictory to other sermons he taught. That is why it was never considered doctrine.

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#112337 Sep 3, 2013
Mike Duquette wrote:
<quoted text>You don't know, you have blind faith that it is so. You have been told this, so you believe. Religion sells the Utopian world, and you are buying. But you really do not know it exists. You do not really know what you bought is coming to you. You just believe it.
See you there
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Orlando, FL

#112338 Sep 3, 2013
The TRUTH found in God's inspired word the Bible is all COMMON SENSE...but...
Common sense is so rare these days it should be classified as a superpower! A Miracle!


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#112340 Sep 3, 2013
do whut wrote:
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These people walked across the Red Sea on dry land as walls of water stood on each side of them. They watched Moses call on God to do many miracles that saved their lives. Then because of their wicked nature, they decided to turn from the God, whose power they al witnessed first hand, and make something out of their gold to worship. Nope, not exactly the same thing as Muslims killing Christians.
God wanted to turn this nation into a strong nation that would continue to increase in number and strength. And they defied Him. If you had been there and witness these things that could not have happened on their own without God, would you turn too and say it was all hogwash?
That is a huge if. I would say that never happened due to the idea these people were not convinced of Moses' god. The story shows the only plausible event being a leader murdering non believers. It is exactly like Muslims killing Christians. And until you and your kind learn this, please do not expect Muslims to stop killing Christians. Both superstitions are hypocritical, and you demonstrate how Christianity justifies murder for having diversity in religious beliefs.
I am sure the Muslims who murder Christians are doing so in the belief of building a strong nation. You see, they are anti secularism, and against religious freedom, just as the bible is.

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#112341 Sep 3, 2013
do whut wrote:
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These people walked across the Red Sea on dry land as walls of water stood on each side of them. They watched Moses call on God to do many miracles that saved their lives. Then because of their wicked nature, they decided to turn from the God, whose power they al witnessed first hand, and make something out of their gold to worship. Nope, not exactly the same thing as Muslims killing Christians.
God wanted to turn this nation into a strong nation that would continue to increase in number and strength. And they defied Him. If you had been there and witness these things that could not have happened on their own without God, would you turn too and say it was all hogwash?
What is "wicked" about worshiping a golden calf? Your statement is anti freedom of religion.
If you worshipped a golden calf in America, would you call that person "wicked"?
Maybe your god is a devil if he is so evil as to murder people just for worshiping something other than himself.
But then again, that would be assuming devils exist.

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#112342 Sep 3, 2013
do whut wrote:
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Isn't this how you are living where you are today?
Does that make it right or moral? Absolutely not!
Do you have any idea of how to deduce morality?

Many horrible things happened in history that ultimately lead to me being here now. Does it justify any of the bad?

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#112343 Sep 3, 2013
do whut wrote:
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He has separated you from God as well.
Then blame the devil and god should also. But that is just another problem with the logic if your religion. You act as if the devil can control stuff yet we have free will. Well you can't have both pal. It is a giant contradiction.

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#112344 Sep 3, 2013
do whut wrote:
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Isn't this how you are living where you are today?
massively selfish logic. Many innocents died for religious reasons so I could live in North Carolina? Not by my choice and I do not condone it.
Why do you?

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#112345 Sep 3, 2013
do whut wrote:
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Not sure it is a "code", but definitely a consequence that God saw fit to apply. God made judgment on these people and saw that they were wicked. And wicked parents raise wicked children that would continue to persecute His chosen people. No it doesn't seem fair to us for God to end the earthly visit for these people, but it was to further His plan to remove them from earth. Again, the children less than the age of accountability were not held responsible for their own sins.
Was this a speech hitler gave?

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#112346 Sep 3, 2013
do whut wrote:
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Not sure it is a "code", but definitely a consequence that God saw fit to apply. God made judgment on these people and saw that they were wicked. And wicked parents raise wicked children that would continue to persecute His chosen people. No it doesn't seem fair to us for God to end the earthly visit for these people, but it was to further His plan to remove them from earth. Again, the children less than the age of accountability were not held responsible for their own sins.
Just wanted to note how if god did any of this, he is interfering with free will.
I guess the chosen people could not have just adopted the kids of the murdered parents.

Btw, if wicked parents all raise wicked children, I guess free will is again a myth.

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#112347 Sep 3, 2013
do whut wrote:
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These people walked across the Red Sea on dry land as walls of water stood on each side of them. They watched Moses call on God to do many miracles that saved their lives. Then because of their wicked nature, they decided to turn from the God, whose power they al witnessed first hand, and make something out of their gold to worship. Nope, not exactly the same thing as Muslims killing Christians.
God wanted to turn this nation into a strong nation that would continue to increase in number and strength. And they defied Him. If you had been there and witness these things that could not have happened on their own without God, would you turn too and say it was all hogwash?
No I would not say it was hogwash. Thus the story sounds unbelievable. Thanks for pointing that out. Now why do you believe the unbelievable sounding story? Take the outsiders test.

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#112348 Sep 3, 2013
do whut wrote:
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He is a member of the Godhead. The three are one in purpose but three separate beings.
Being a manner of a group that is the head of things......it's polytheism. Is it really such a bad word?

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#112349 Sep 3, 2013
do whut wrote:
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The entire NT proves you wrong. Read it please.
I get that you "feel" the book says something in it that proves me wrong, but I note you can't pinpoint it.

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#112350 Sep 3, 2013
do whut wrote:
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This was Moses acting under God's judgment. God judged the hearts of these people and dished out a harsh punishment. It's too bad they turned from what they witnessed to be true.
Again the more likely truth is, no one actually witnessed the claimed miracles.
Yes, capital punishment is harsh for worship. Just as Muslims are wrong for doing it to Christians. Well I guess that are just following the lead of Moses. Humans learn by example. Tell your god that.

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#112351 Sep 3, 2013
SistaNoneYa wrote:
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Sure sounds like it--got Kerry and McCain buying into the thug propoganda pretty good.
SANCTION-SANCTION-SANCTION-EVE RYTHING and anything on any country that provides any thing to Syria.
Call them ALL to the diplomatic "tables of PEACE" FIRST.
NO MORE BOOTs (already on boats!)!
"Bring the Troops Home"-to America!!!!!!!!!!
Thug propaganda?
I guess they learned from Bush.

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#112352 Sep 3, 2013
do whut wrote:
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Can you produce some other instances where any other god uses the terminology of damning something or someone?
No gods use any terminology. Gods do not exist.

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#112353 Sep 3, 2013
do whut wrote:
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But they knew Moses was just man and that the Living God delivered them. Why would Moses' absence justify them turning from the one that delivered them?
Justify choosing a god.
Maybe they did not know a god delivered them. Maybe they thought they did it on their own. Clearly they did as they did not believe the whole story Moses was selling. You keep blindly assuming the miracles claimed, actually happened. Now think like an outsider for a moment and understand the possibility your story book has a few embellishments.

And let's say they were not justified. It still is not a crime to worship golden calves. Well unless you make unjust laws. You know, like evil dictators.
Worshiping a golden calf does not warrant the punishment of death.

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#112354 Sep 3, 2013
do whut wrote:
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I don't see how one can take such a test other than what I described that I had done. If this isn't enough for you then I'm sorry. I see no need to repeat my previous actions after receiving an answer. This would be like continuing to look for your keys once you found them.
I don't have blind faith, I have confirmed, active faith. I hope you are able to find it yourself someday. Maybe you could take an outsiders test.
I do take the outsiders test. It is why I am atheist.
Now if you could only show where I need testing? What logic do I defy? What standards do I hold that are double? What inconsistencies have I shown? Where have I failed to look for evidence? What philosophy of mine is flawed? What do I contradict?

You have shown zero evidence for the beliefs you hold. Thus it is blind.

You evidently do not even know the meaning of blind faith.
Yes and Amen

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#112355 Sep 4, 2013
Yiago wrote:
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Statistically speaking, she is almost certainly NOT going to college. If I was to lay money on it, not knowing her too well personally, I'd say she will have more babies before turning 20 and be on public assistance.
First line of defense against this would have been a firm education from her parents about the nature of sex and a secondary one from school about the nature of sex. Second line would be to have people around her that are rational and adult and who don't believe that a penis has the magic power of shooting a soul into her vagina.
Then she would have a fighting chance.
Statistically speaking... No!
As her parents might be welfare drains themselves, and don't teach decency!
Statistically speaking... Christians are the biggest adopters of un-wanted children!
Statistically speaking... Spiritual people are happier, and healthier than people wanting to do harm to others for holding to their faith!

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