Bible study rules for public schools proposed

Feb 10, 2010 Full story: The Courier-Journal 133,213

FRANKFORT, Ky. - The state would create rules for teaching about the Bible in public high schools under a bill filed Monday by three Democratic senators.

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#112009 Aug 30, 2013
Quantummist wrote:
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ooh..ooh.. Let me.... Yes we should have slapped the dog crap out of Afghanistan from the air but we did not need troops on the ground... We should have not attempted to do Nation Building and just took out every building larger than a hut, every military asset we could locate, every bridge, every communication tower and every government building we could find... Then walk away without a penny in aid, not a single MRE or bottle of water...
Careful, your humanity is showing.

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#112010 Aug 30, 2013
LOL in a suit wrote:
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Probably?
I would imagine that reason and logic are getting in the way of my intellectual honesty.
I say there is no god just like there is no elephant in the trunk of my car or a fat guy in a red suit that slips down chimneys and eats cookies, such beliefs are ridiculous.
Yeah, it's a silly belief. And we can safely assume that there is no god since all lines of evidence point to a naturalistic universe.

But we can't state it as proven fact. Like it or not, the stubborn theist can still hide behind the philosophical truth that we cannot prove there is no god.

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#112011 Aug 30, 2013
Brian_G wrote:
<quoted text>Spiritual health is a function of morale, team spirit and confidence.
Prove it. Start with a definition of "spiritual health" that makes any sense at all.

You can get team spirit from cheerleaders. Maybe we should enlist cheerleaders.

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#112012 Aug 30, 2013
stuck in a lodi wrote:
I've never saw any blueprints of the design elements so I was guessing on it's infrastructure.
Popular Mechanics did a famous takedown of the 9/11 conspiracies waaaay back in the mid 2000s:

http://www.popularmechanics.com/technology/mi...

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#112013 Aug 30, 2013
do whut wrote:
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We grow from our trials. We learn and move on and try not to repeat the same mistakes (in most cases). Even non-believers acknowledge this.
We are being prepared for much more than you know now.
I have openly said that I have faith.
But you are side-stepping my entire point.

The point is god - being a perfect creator - has no reason to go through this elaborate ruse. He has no reason to create such flawed beings in the first place. It is logically flawed, and god is a logical being according to virtually all Christian theology.

You have constructed an argument that is immune to all criticism because you allow for all explanations to be conveniently beyond our immediate grasp. And the basis is faith alone.

At least admit that your position is irrational.
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#112014 Aug 30, 2013
this is a good thing maybe it should be optional to keep things fair due to all the imigrants I mean if you go to china they don't all eat burgers and hotdogs but if it comes my 2 children would for sure b part of it

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#112015 Aug 30, 2013
do whut wrote:
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It wasn't because of money. The government was prepared to destroy the church by imprisoning all the males practicing polygamy. The revelation was a vision of how the church would be destroyed by demolishing families. This is why they were told to end plural marriage. It was not because of money or Utah's statehood. This is a misconception.
Okey dokey. I guess revelations can change due to politics. Weird how god seems to be so hamstrung by human foibles. You would have thought that if plural marriage was something god wanted you to do he could have found a way to make sure you could do it.

It's almost as if...almost like...he isn't there at all!

Nah, perish the thought.

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#112016 Aug 30, 2013
do whut wrote:
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No, it isn't harmless. It makes many cringe because of the love they have for God. It'd be like someone calling your gramma vulgar names. Yes they are just words, but they would invoke emotions inside you because of the love you have for your gramma.
I personally feel it is the worst thing that could be said in the English language. Be aware, what you feel is harmless, is offensive to others.
My grandmother was a real person. So there's a big difference there. Did god ever once make you cookies?

Yes, I know people take this seriously. That's why I don't walk around saying "god dammit" all the time. But people need to get past that sort of superstitious nonsense. So we need a few "GDs" here and there, just to remind them.
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#112017 Aug 30, 2013
youtube.com/watch... …………… Wheres the Beef?
it never happening

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#112018 Aug 30, 2013
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Says one with no experience or knowledge of the subject.
Be careful not to set aside things before you fully understand it. Based off of your summary, one can conclude you do not know the scriptures or their meaning at all.
I went to church a few times a year. And many different ones, which I'm thankful for. I got saved when I was a teen. Had my Jesus years. I've casually studied the Bible, including reading the Pentateuch among others.

I am NOT an expert. But I am not ignorant either.

Since I have been inside the fold, as it were, I can safely argue that you are wrong here. I do understand it. I was there. And I got out.

If you want to say that I was never a "real" Christian, then welcome to the No True Scotsman Fallacy Club.

My whole point was that the Bible sends mixed messages. The idea that it is a unified whole is ludicrous unless you want to employ the weird methods of Ancient Interpretation in which you can basically read anything into it that you desire.

Like Michael Jackson.

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#112019 Aug 30, 2013
do whut wrote:
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They were given the higher law with Adam. And they followed it for many generations but eventually failed. They were first punished by slavery, and then after freed from bondage, resorted to wicked ways and created an idol to worship instead of the God that freed them. This is when God decided to give them the lesser laws.
Murder means killing innocent blood. These people that God killed were not innocent by His judgment. But remember, spirits do not die. He only ended their earthly experience. And He did so because they showed they would only do wicked while on earth.
And if you remember Terminator, the self aware system did not allow reprogramming.
When did Adam give anyone a "higher law"? I don't remember that part. Can you post the verse of Genesis where this happens?

What wicked did the babies do on earth? Can you cite the verses where these wicked deeds are named?

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#112020 Aug 30, 2013
do whut wrote:
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What reliable evidence? Please be more concise
Botany, astrophysics, geology, archaeology, paleontology, biology, genetics, common sense.
Concise? Peruse any Encyclopedia. Plants didn't come before the sun. The Earth is not flat (and never was). There was no Adam and Eve. There was no global flood. There was no Tower of Babel confusing of languages. Man cannot live for 3 days in a fish. Staves do not turn into snakes. The Red Sea was not parted. Heck, even Nazareth post dates Jesus. Religion claims all of these things and more are were real and happened. Where is YOUR reliable evidence to substantiate YOUR claims? >ONLY< within the human written texts of your religion.

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#112021 Aug 30, 2013
So sad wrote:
It is really sad that you have a couple pathetic people that take away God away from our children.If you don't like what it stands for take your child out if the public school system and teach them at home.because I'm sure if you were brave enough to let people know who you are ,no one would even be your friend.So be a real man or women and come forward and let everyone know who you are.oh I'm sorry you are a COWARD!!!!!
You have it backward. You do not have the right to teach a religion to other people's children - no matter what religion it is. You have every right to send your kids to a private school that does teach the Bible - or the Koran, or the Book of Mormon, or the Tripitaka, or the Vedas... but don't ask for my tax dollars to pay for it. Pony up - or as Jesus put it, "Render unto Caesar what is Caesars, render unto God what is God's."
As far as criticizing anonymity on the internet, "So sad," - you don't get a gold star for being even more ignorant and hypocritical than your preacher expects you to be.
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#112022 Aug 30, 2013
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ISRAEL to give POPE "Custody" of Temple Mount --

http://youtu.be/Qt9kEQB4ti8

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#112023 Aug 30, 2013
Yiago wrote:
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Careful, your humanity is showing.
I know, I'm just a softy when it comes to such things...

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#112024 Aug 30, 2013
Mike Duquette wrote:
<quoted text>I can't believe you are trying to justify this bad habit with these stats.
I just cannot believe the human body could process smoke in the amounts most inhale without some damage.
I understand that, I find it remarkable also... But what other explanation is there if a 70% reduction returns no change results...

In experimental science if I were to have the same results I would have to conclude the results dispute the claims and assumptions....

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#112025 Aug 30, 2013
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So from my understanding, I have salvation if the story is true, no matter if I believe the story or not. So why would I be upset or jealous?
What?
How did you derive that?
Jesus taught that salvation only happens for those that believe on and follow Him.

Maybe you are thinking resurrection. The resurrection happens for all. But not salvation.

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#112026 Aug 30, 2013
Yiago wrote:
<quoted text>Bingo! You nailed it in that last sentence.

Which is more reasonable: Joseph Smith made it all up for whatever reason...or god gave him golden tablet with a lost scripture on it?

The Outsider Test answers this pretty damn fast.

But Apologists are not interested in logic. Their purpose is to make rationalizations for weird beliefs. For example, that whole "Why would anyone make it up?" line of argument is just silly. It focuses in on one question that, on the surface, sounds reasonable. But it does so by ignoring MOUNTAINS of other questions with answers they don't like so much.

Where's the archaeological evidence for ANYTHING in the BoM?

Why does that book mention things that didn't exist at the time the stories are supposedly happening?

Why would Jesus come to this place?

And other such things.
What examples do you have of things that did not exist at the time?

There has been some archeological evidence for the stories of the BOM.

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#112027 Aug 30, 2013
Yiago wrote:
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Popular Mechanics did a famous takedown of the 9/11 conspiracies waaaay back in the mid 2000s:
http://www.popularmechanics.com/technology/mi...
Excelent article. Note the tilt of the building.

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#112028 Aug 30, 2013
do whut wrote:
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What?
How did you derive that?
Jesus taught that salvation only happens for those that believe on and follow Him.
Maybe you are thinking resurrection. The resurrection happens for all. But not salvation.
The main point is, it is what I got from the bible and thus I have no reason to be jealous of YaA.
But if you wish to prove me wrong, then go for it. Show where it says I must believe in the Jesus and follow what he says to have salvation?

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