Bible study rules for public schools proposed

Feb 10, 2010 | Posted by: roboblogger | Full story: The Courier-Journal

FRANKFORT, Ky. - The state would create rules for teaching about the Bible in public high schools under a bill filed Monday by three Democratic senators.

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I never said it was moral, I said I can understand God's anger.
And I can kinda picture the Far Side comic I saw one time when you say you condemn Him.
It was a picture of God in front of a control panel with a screen that showed a guy walking under a piano being lifted. His finger was about to push a big butting that said "Smite".
I kinda picture Him having to take 10 breaths when some one says what you did. Then going: No, I'm calm. I'm not going to do it.
Haha
So you are undecided on if the flood was moral? You keep defending god for why he did it, so I just assumed you thought it was a good thing to do.
If I kept giving justifications for Hitlers holocaust wouldn't you think I was claiming the holocaust was moral?
They were both mass murders with reasons of justification. I agree with none of them.

Really what I am seeing from you is apologetics of a holocaust.

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SistaNoneYa wrote:
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So you admit, you got distorted off topic by the hyped hysteria.
There's hope for you still then.
Do you know what the Constitution is, and comprehend it(including the Ammendments)?
If so, Did you notice it being breached yet AGAIN this week?
Disgusting.
I see you are off topic and did not address my points.
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Y'all figure out what those beeps are when dialing up yet over there?
I have it on good authority that those 'beeps' were mandated by the state for safety precautions when a rather robust woman's backside became oversized and posed a threat in our work zone.
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Thats true, doesnt mean people like me who would gladly protest and mock you on that same property ;)
No! Actually....
If you are prohibiting the free exercise thereof, I'd say...
If you don't like it... walk on by!
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BS, you tiresome little man. You excuse every lie and foible of the Republicans and condemn every breath of a Democrat. You don't stand for anything good, you're just another cheerleader for partisanship.
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Mike Duquette wrote:
<quoted text>All persons use their brain to deduce what is right and wrong. But some do not think deeply about it and just follow the herd. Religion is the herd in many cases. Now if that herd always did the moral thing, I might think religion was the way to go, but this is not the case.
No herd always does the right thing, so following any herd to the letter can lead to some moral problems.
And yes, the story of god before the flood is vague as most of the bible is vague. So the lesson of the flood is what? Don't be bad a bad world of people? Vague.
Sounds more like something some religious/political leader told his people so they would follow his orders.
It is a control tool for the dictators.
I'll be honest, even if being Christian meant 100% morally sound living all the time I would still have a problem with it. The problem for me is truth. All sense of reason screams that Christianity is irrational and incorrect. I don't think I could get behind anything that blatantly wrong.

For one thing, I don't think we can force ourselves to believe anything. I think we are compelled to accept things by factors such as logic and reason, and often emotion. I think acceptance of religious claims is primarily emotionally based (fear of death, fear of being alone, need for acceptance, etc) and then logic and reason are employed to make post hoc justifications for beliefs that logic and reason would otherwise reject.
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There is no god.
A fool in his heart says...
You Prove God's existence with EVERY post!
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Mike Duquette wrote:
<quoted text>And this is a great example of what you "think" you "know". All evidence shows you were not shot in the head TWICE and yet you insist you know otherwise.
Your stories are textbook delusions and false perceptions. We should send you down to the universities for live examples of how the mind can play tricks upon a person.
Next you will be telling is a god spoke to you.
And this is a perfect example of a man assigning the attributes of a being
he denies to himself!
You... do not know what happened, you THINK you know!
I on the other hand, was there, was Saved by Christ, was
Told by God to look into my life for this proof...
You know what I think???
You just cant stand it... To know someone achieved something you
did not!
You either didn't achieve salvation for lack of desire, or...
You did, and satan led you away like he did me!
Only... I hope it doesn't take you 40 years to get back on track...
We don't have that kind of time!
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stuck in a lodi wrote:
<quoted text> I have it on good authority that those 'beeps' were mandated by the state for safety precautions when a rather robust woman's backside became oversized and posed a threat in our work zone.
Excuses, excuses.

Good humor though-second time I laughed at that joke lol.

Duquette, wasn't that a funny story? Why anyone could even consider it a typical, absolutely no thought required, woebegone, uh, tale.
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<quoted text>I see you are off topic and did not address my points.
No, I was right on topic and just decided to change the actual topic, just like you did. And it's not my problem if you cannot comprehend the answers given to whatever pointy head question in your pile of many, you're referencing, yet Again.

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<quoted text>Weiner!
Oblivious! You prove my point.

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Yes and Amen wrote:
<quoted text>And this is a perfect example of a man assigning the attributes of a being
he denies to himself!
You... do not know what happened, you THINK you know!
I on the other hand, was there, was Saved by Christ, was
Told by God to look into my life for this proof...
You know what I think???
You just cant stand it... To know someone achieved something you
did not!
You either didn't achieve salvation for lack of desire, or...
You did, and satan led you away like he did me!
Only... I hope it doesn't take you 40 years to get back on track...
We don't have that kind of time!
You... do not know what happened, you THINK you know!

Shoot, hit, deform/splatter, pieces ricochet along a cone of incidence. Not enough mass or velocity left to even hurt the moths in your head. I'm not surprised you don't remember when and where the holes in your jacket >actually< came from.

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I think the topic of the political/religious mix within the military is interesting and kinda scary. The armed forces used to have a broader mix of these ideas but today's military seems to be overwhelmingly religious and conservative, which I think is a terrible mix.
Do you want to go back to the draft? Today's military is 100% voluntary; if atheists and liberals wanted to join, they could. They just don't seem to want to demonstrate their patriotism like religious conservatives do.

Good thing Obama has no fear of using the overwhelminly religious and conservative military when enemies use weapons of mass destruction. I wonder if he'll recover more chemical, biological or radiation munitions than Bush.

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Brian_G wrote:
<quoted text>Do you want to go back to the draft? Today's military is 100% voluntary; if atheists and liberals wanted to join, they could. They just don't seem to want to demonstrate their patriotism like religious conservatives do.
Good thing Obama has no fear of using the overwhelminly religious and conservative military when enemies use weapons of mass destruction. I wonder if he'll recover more chemical, biological or radiation munitions than Bush.
We know that your definition of "patriotism" is to watch Faux News and burn more domestic fossil fuels.'Nuff said.
Being gullible or duplicitous gives no honor or glory to Christ and I won't sully the blood, sweat, and sacrifices of veterans by claiming that they are patriots because they love Jesus.
By "religious and conservative military," do you mean any member of the Romney clan, or the ever-growing list of chickenhawks? Since you mention the draft, what are the odds of someone obtaining a CO status based on the grounds that they are a pacifist atheist? " " " " a pacifist Christian?
All anyone needs to do is >find< WMDs and he'll have passed Bush's record.

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<quoted text>that is nonsense. you just want to apologize for a nasty God that made evil, which is the type of God you obviously believe in if you believe in the Biblical God or in an allpowerful creator God of the universe we live in.

to appreciate one nice thing, one needs a little time and space in between similar events, and a variety of other nice things. we can appreciate blue and yellow and red and pink, without their being a color that is bad. we can appreciate classical music and jazz, without there being horrid noise that deafens us in contrast.
It isn't nonsense. I will admit it doesn't fit 100% of the population.

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Brian_G wrote:
<quoted text>Do you want to go back to the draft? Today's military is 100% voluntary; if atheists and liberals wanted to join, they could. They just don't seem to want to demonstrate their patriotism like religious conservatives do.
Good thing Obama has no fear of using the overwhelminly religious and conservative military when enemies use weapons of mass destruction. I wonder if he'll recover more chemical, biological or radiation munitions than Bush.
Maybe it would do the youth of America good to experience a few years of discipline and service to the country. No deferments, no special treatments, no "Don't you know who my daddy is?", no "Yo, mofo... you be messin wif my freedom of esprexion, yo."

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You... do not know what happened, you THINK you know!
Shoot, hit, deform/splatter, pieces ricochet along a cone of incidence. Not enough mass or velocity left to even hurt the moths in your head. I'm not surprised you don't remember when and where the holes in your jacket >actually< came from.
They weren't even holes, just "lines."

Yaa said, "when I took my jacket off, there were two lead lines
straight down my back 1/4" appart, and starting at mid, to lower shoulder
blade!"

He probably leaned against something and got his jacket dirty.
But he would rather believe that "god" protected him.
Strokes his ego.

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do whut wrote:
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It isn't nonsense. I will admit it doesn't fit 100% of the population.
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If we were protected from every bad thing that could ever happen, what would we be like? I would think we would take everything good for granted and just expect it all the time. I think you have to know the bad to appreciate the good.
I think the analogy works very well. I think it closely parallels.
I agree that much of what we appreciate is in contrast to that which we endure. Even diet Pepsi and Spam taste palatable if you're thirsty and hungry... enough. Your argument falls flat in thinking we have to experience a bad thing to appreciate a good thing. You don't have to kill to value a life. You don't have to hate in order to know love. You don't have to have been deaf to appreciate a song or blind to appreciate beauty.

The utter nonsense is that >according to your own Book<, Adam and Eve were protected from every bad thing that could ever happen - except for the retaliation of a god.
In contrast, I'd have to have a ravenous emotional void for that story to become palatable.

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They weren't even holes, just "lines."
Yaa said, "when I took my jacket off, there were two lead lines
straight down my back 1/4" appart, and starting at mid, to lower shoulder
blade!"
He probably leaned against something and got his jacket dirty.
But he would rather believe that "god" protected him.
Strokes his ego.
When I see a WWJD bumper sticker, this is what crosses my mind:

blink. eye roll. face palm.

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Yes and Amen wrote:
<quoted text>No! Actually....
If you are prohibiting the free exercise thereof, I'd say...
If you don't like it... walk on by!
If you are going to claim the Constitution as your protector of rights you really should understand what the words on the paper say...

"Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances."

Note it is specific to Congress and not to your fellow citizens... The Constitution is written originally only as a limit of what the Government can or cannot do and does not apply to Citizens... That is left for the local, State and Federal Laws to deal with... So a Citizen can indeed prohibit your free exercise thereof as long as local, state or federal laws are not broken...

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