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Bible study rules for public schools proposed

There are 142405 comments on the The Courier-Journal story from Feb 10, 2010, titled Bible study rules for public schools proposed. In it, The Courier-Journal reports that:

FRANKFORT, Ky. - The state would create rules for teaching about the Bible in public high schools under a bill filed Monday by three Democratic senators.

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Since: Feb 12

Roseville, CA

#111462 Aug 23, 2013
I just contradicted myself "dam Jesus Christ would be cussing and would qualify as taking God's name in vain for religious ones.

I should have said not only is saying GD but cussing in general would be considered taking G-D's name in vain, to clarify.

Since: Feb 12

Roseville, CA

#111463 Aug 23, 2013
Known Fact wrote:
<quoted text>
I am not involved in any telemarketing!
Watchtowers and our books are not for sale!
What do you suggest?
Or what is your point?
Another text telemarketing speech. Propaganda would qualify. Do you buy them or do some JW's get them free?

Since: Jun 13

Location hidden

#111464 Aug 23, 2013
Mike Duquette wrote:
<quoted text>,"You have heard that it was said,'An eye for an eye, and a tooth for a tooth.' But I tell you, don't resist him who is evil; but whoever strikes you on your right cheek, turn to him the other also. If anyone sues you to take away your coat, let him have your cloak also. Whoever compels you to go one mile, go with him two. Give to him who asks you, and don't turn away him who desires to borrow from you.........until the time you determine that you will continue to bully and abuse me at your leisure , there will come a time when I will punch you in the mouth and kick you where the sun don't shine.
up until you reach the conclusion that you are being a bully and abusive and discontinue your abuse
Let me put it to you bluntly Michael.
If you believe you have a license that permits you to arbitrarily slap me without fear of retribution , simply because I am a Christian , you have another thing coming.
After the second slap I will warn you not to do that again.
Now , youj have been warned . Proceed at your own risk.
One more slap and I will most definitely introduce my knuckles to your face.
You sound like the school yard bully most of us are familiar with.
with me , I will permit you 2 free slaps , then a warning.
If you feel big and bad enough to strike me again , because of your arrogance and pride,,, Then you should remember that pride comes before the fall...
And you will surely fall Because I will knoch=k you on your butt.
afterwards we can become friends ,,, but the nonsense will stop
And that pertains not to you personally ,but to anyone to whom it may apply.
Christ did not say at anytime that those who believe in him should become punching bags for unbelievers...
You guys don't believe in God , but continue searching for him.
You don't believe or understand his teachings and based on your misinterpretation expect others to adhere to those rules that you do not understand..
Practice what you preach.
If you don't believe that which you preach, then, don't preach it

Since: Jun 13

Location hidden

#111465 Aug 23, 2013
Quantummist wrote:
<quoted text>
As I said... 90% of religionist do as they do for personal gain of one kind or another.... Such gain can be financial as seen in the nice homes and Stuff of just about every priest, preacher and evangelist you can name... or for personal aggrandizement so many seek from the pats on the backs they get by having their names on the rolls of what they do so others will know they did a good thing or in the wish for reward from god or fear of punishment after death .....
"Doing an Honorable thing for personal gain or fear of punishment does not an Honorable person make" .. "True Honor is doing the Right Thing when No One is looking"
I don't know how you arrived at that 90% figure.

Those who give in order to draw attention to themselves or for personal aggrandizement are not doing it based on their faith.

One should not seek praise from man ,but, from God

Matthew 6:3-4

King James Version (KJV)


3 But when thou doest alms, let not thy left hand know what thy right hand doeth:

4 That thine alms may be in secret: and thy Father which seeth in secret himself shall reward thee openly.

Since: Jun 13

Location hidden

#111466 Aug 23, 2013
Mike Duquette wrote:
<quoted text>So you "feel" you are not racist, so this joke must not be racist? That is some logic you have going on.
I would not be so sure you can know what Obama thinks.
Listen up; I am going to share with you something no one knows.
One time and one time only.
If I were to admit to you that I am African American , would you believe me?
If I were to tell you that I know what President Obama thinks because I am part of his inner circle of advisers , Would you doubbt me?
Now , leave me alone..
Like most of the atheists that post on Topix , I am old tired and senile.
Lodi ,Witchetty and Crowman can all vouch for that.
In an aside ,,I did not include Q because I need show respect for the elderly....
Anyone who rides cross country on a motorcycle with his hands off the handle bars has earned my respect...
Of course , one may question his sanity...but that is for another day

“Speaker of Mountain Wisdom....”

Since: Jan 10

Somerset, KY

#111467 Aug 23, 2013
mantle wrote:
<quoted text>
I don't know how you arrived at that 90% figure.
Those who give in order to draw attention to themselves or for personal aggrandizement are not doing it based on their faith.
One should not seek praise from man ,but, from God
Matthew 6:3-4
King James Version (KJV)
3 But when thou doest alms, let not thy left hand know what thy right hand doeth:
4 That thine alms may be in secret: and thy Father which seeth in secret himself shall reward thee openly.
I arrive at that number by my keen observational skills...

Such as point out you just validated my point with "Those who give in order to draw attention to themselves or for personal aggrandizement are not doing it based on their faith.
One should not seek praise from man ,but, from God"

Seeking Praise from God is exactly what I said... That is by Definition self aggrandizement...

I say one should do the Right Thing when No One, Not even the assorted gods, are looking simple because it's the Right Thing to do....

That about that a bit, mull it over in your head, and get back to me....

“Speaker of Mountain Wisdom....”

Since: Jan 10

Somerset, KY

#111468 Aug 23, 2013
mantle wrote:
<quoted text>
Listen up; I am going to share with you something no one knows.
One time and one time only.
If I were to admit to you that I am African American , would you believe me?
If I were to tell you that I know what President Obama thinks because I am part of his inner circle of advisers , Would you doubbt me?
Now , leave me alone..
Like most of the atheists that post on Topix , I am old tired and senile.
Lodi ,Witchetty and Crowman can all vouch for that.
In an aside ,,I did not include Q because I need show respect for the elderly....
Anyone who rides cross country on a motorcycle with his hands off the handle bars has earned my respect...
Of course , one may question his sanity...but that is for another day
I'ma, gona jump in and say from your posts I would not believe you about pretty much anything even if you were being water boarded.....

“Speaker of Mountain Wisdom....”

Since: Jan 10

Somerset, KY

#111469 Aug 23, 2013
Spaceship earth wrote:
<quoted text>
Another text telemarketing speech. Propaganda would qualify. Do you buy them or do some JW's get them free?
Like the kid that comes to the door and he says he's not selling magazines, he's trying to put himself through college and if you donate you can take your pick of Outdoor Life, Modern Homemaking and a bunch of niffty reading materials....
stuck in a lodi

Pikeville, KY

#111470 Aug 23, 2013
yesss!!!! No Saturday work for me this week so I'm a happy Camper! Who's ready for a cold one? When you work in the Construction field, getting a Saturday off is few and far between, so I'm going to enjoy!
stuck in a lodi

Pikeville, KY

#111471 Aug 23, 2013
Q You are a man of many talents, I remember my dad buying a Denver Belle Banjo w/pearl inlay, fond memory of him playing tunes on it through my younger years.
Nephilim

Somerset, KY

#111472 Aug 23, 2013
Known Fact wrote:
<quoted text>
I am not involved in any telemarketing!
Watchtowers and our books are not for sale!
What do you suggest?
Or what is your point?
They hell they aren't for sale, they get sold twice. Once when the congregation orders them from Bethel they pay for them and then when you lower ranked guys go out and "give them away" you are told to ask for a donation to "cover the printing cost." You then take the donation and give it back to the people who you already paid for it once. I know all of this, I use to work the magazine counter and I remember the day they put the new contribution boxes in.

“Breaking the spell ”

Since: Dec 10

of the puppet master

#111474 Aug 23, 2013
mantle wrote:
<quoted text>
Let me put it to you bluntly Michael.
If you believe you have a license that permits you to arbitrarily slap me without fear of retribution , simply because I am a Christian , you have another thing coming.
After the second slap I will warn you not to do that again.
Now , youj have been warned . Proceed at your own risk.
One more slap and I will most definitely introduce my knuckles to your face.
You sound like the school yard bully most of us are familiar with.
with me , I will permit you 2 free slaps , then a warning.
If you feel big and bad enough to strike me again , because of your arrogance and pride,,, Then you should remember that pride comes before the fall...
And you will surely fall Because I will knoch=k you on your butt.
afterwards we can become friends ,,, but the nonsense will stop
And that pertains not to you personally ,but to anyone to whom it may apply.
Christ did not say at anytime that those who believe in him should become punching bags for unbelievers...
You guys don't believe in God , but continue searching for him.
You don't believe or understand his teachings and based on your misinterpretation expect others to adhere to those rules that you do not understand..
Practice what you preach.
If you don't believe that which you preach, then, don't preach it
You can follow whatever philosophy you wish, but the one you described is not what Jesus taught, and many Christians would back me up. Maybe not here as you guys are the contradiction masters.

I understand the philosophy of Jesus is flawed and therefore it is not wise to follow it to the letter, and this is the point. Christains do not really follow the teachings because they know they are not the best way to live.

Seems to me if you really trusted Jesus, you would turn the other cheek and pray for help. But of course you know deep down no help is coming by prayer so you alter the philosophy.
stuck in a lodi

Pikeville, KY

#111475 Aug 23, 2013
SistaNoneYaBiz wrote:

<quoted text>
My Jesus let's me be REAL, As in not PHONY.
And that includes laying it back to hypocrite BULLIES.
Shall we review the define of hypocrite again?
You were replying to MD when posting this, calling him a bully and a hypocrite, wrong on both accounts.
stuck in a lodi wrote:
<quoted text>Yes I would like to review the definitions again. In reference to those Definitions....Explain how M D qualifies as a hypocrite, or any other non believer for that matter.
We call you a hypocrite because you exemplify the word's meaning perfectly!
I replied with the above post to convey to you that you were wrong. How can one be a hypocrite when they are not following that religion?
Do you understand this comment....Going to Church doesn't make you a Christian no more than me walking in my garage makes me a car?
... In a sense, it means, there is more to this religion than just SAYING you are a Christian, you must live it daily by following the bible, the commandments, and the teachings of your God.

“Breaking the spell ”

Since: Dec 10

of the puppet master

#111476 Aug 23, 2013
mantle wrote:
<quoted text>
Listen up; I am going to share with you something no one knows.
One time and one time only.
If I were to admit to you that I am African American , would you believe me?
If I were to tell you that I know what President Obama thinks because I am part of his inner circle of advisers , Would you doubbt me?
Now , leave me alone..
Like most of the atheists that post on Topix , I am old tired and senile.
Lodi ,Witchetty and Crowman can all vouch for that.
In an aside ,,I did not include Q because I need show respect for the elderly....
Anyone who rides cross country on a motorcycle with his hands off the handle bars has earned my respect...
Of course , one may question his sanity...but that is for another day
I don't care if you are Obama's daughter. The joke was racist. I did not state you were racist, I said the joke was racist.

Everyone makes mistakes, but if your pride keeps you from admitting fault, you have a problem.

“Breaking the spell ”

Since: Dec 10

of the puppet master

#111477 Aug 23, 2013
mantle wrote:
<quoted text>
You are wrong and completely misunderstand biblical teachings.
You are saved by grace through your faith , not by your works.
Your works are a reflection of your faith.
You can not buy or earn your way to salvation.
If you read the teachings of Paul and that which is written by James you will get a very clear understanding of what that means.
I would cut n paste it , but that would be meaningless.
If you are interested, look it up and judge for yourself.
Those who may believe that their contributions to the charity or church of their choice will lead to their being awarded a seat next to God will be in for a rude awakening.
Nowhere is that written in the Bible.
So just have faith and your works are besides the point. What a shit philosophy.

Since: Feb 12

Roseville, CA

#111478 Aug 23, 2013
Quantummist wrote:
<quoted text>
Like the kid that comes to the door and he says he's not selling magazines, he's trying to put himself through college and if you donate you can take your pick of Outdoor Life, Modern Homemaking and a bunch of niffty reading materials....
Q that's a good example. Sometimes the kid will have threat saying it keeps them out of trouble and implying if you don't buy then trouble may come your way.
stuck in a lodi

Pikeville, KY

#111479 Aug 23, 2013
SistaNoneYaBiz wrote:
<quoted text>

Now, Please explain why you harbor such disdain collectively, for those who may believe differently than yourself?
If MD wishes to explain why HE seemingly harbors some of the same type of disdain, certainly he is able to do so himself as well.
I don't have any disdain to anyone with any form of religion. You can believe whatever the hail you want, I've stated this on numerous occasions. If you wanna believe Lord of the Flys will deliver you from evil, have at it. If you want to believe in Jesus as Lord and Savior, have at it, it's none of my business UNTIL you call me a hypocrite of a religion I don't even confess! That's just utter nonsense!

Since: Jun 13

Location hidden

#111480 Aug 23, 2013
Mike Duquette wrote:
<quoted text>I don't care if you are Obama's daughter. The joke was racist. I did not state you were racist, I said the joke was racist.
Everyone makes mistakes, but if your pride keeps you from admitting fault, you have a problem.
There you go misrepresenting what I wrote.
I never said I was Obama's daughter , I said I was one of his inner circle of advisers.
I should know better than to play mental games with simple minds.
Miniscule minds have a problem grasping the meanings , reasons and intentions of what I intentionally kiddingly post.
Q jumped in on this too .
That did not surprise me either.
An orphaned cerebellum looking for a home.

Since: Feb 12

Roseville, CA

#111481 Aug 23, 2013
Nephilim wrote:
<quoted text>
They hell they aren't for sale, they get sold twice. Once when the congregation orders them from Bethel they pay for them and then when you lower ranked guys go out and "give them away" you are told to ask for a donation to "cover the printing cost." You then take the donation and give it back to the people who you already paid for it once. I know all of this, I use to work the magazine counter and I remember the day they put the new contribution boxes in.
Nephilim thanks for sharing that info. I can't wait for Known or No Facts rebuttal.

Since: Jun 13

Location hidden

#111482 Aug 23, 2013
Mike Duquette wrote:
<quoted text>So just have faith and your works are besides the point. What a shit philosophy.
No Knucklehead. That is wrong and you still don't get it.
your description of that philosophy is why in intellectual circles you are known as an excrement cranium.

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