Bible study rules for public schools proposed

Feb 10, 2010 Full story: The Courier-Journal 131,084

FRANKFORT, Ky. - The state would create rules for teaching about the Bible in public high schools under a bill filed Monday by three Democratic senators.

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SistaNoneYaBiz

London, KY

#111147 Aug 21, 2013
ChromiuMan wrote:
<quoted text>
Apologists lie - and then boast to God about it and do it again.
cereal apologists?

(one for the CONdescending, self esteemed, know it all brigade LOL)

“See how you are?”

Since: Jul 12

Earth

#111148 Aug 21, 2013
Yes and Amen wrote:
<quoted text>"Excluding >certain< voters"???
You mean like Illegal Aliens, Dead People, and Pets???
I'd rather drink the Tea, Not the Koolaid!
DUHmmy, you drink tea flavored koolaid and try to lick the bottom of the pitcher.
I mean like Strategic Allied Consulting and intentionally bogus profiling.

“See how you are?”

Since: Jul 12

Earth

#111149 Aug 21, 2013
SistaNoneYaBiz wrote:
<quoted text>
cereal apologists?
(one for the CONdescending, self esteemed, know it all brigade LOL)
Serial Apologists - yes. Bible thumpers whose assertions and fabrications are corrected time and again with evidence, references and sources, but continue to re-post the same false assertions again anyway.

“See how you are?”

Since: Jul 12

Earth

#111150 Aug 21, 2013
Yes and Amen wrote:
<quoted text>We hope that some day, your "Do not know" turns into "I do know", as ours has!
So now you are encouraging others to lie. Shame on you.
SistaNoneYaBiz

London, KY

#111151 Aug 21, 2013
ChromiuMan wrote:
<quoted text>
Serial Apologists - yes. Bible thumpers whose assertions and fabrications are corrected time and again with evidence, references and sources, but continue to re-post the same false assertions again anyway.
You might be a cereal apologist if.... you responded to that post LOL

“See how you are?”

Since: Jul 12

Earth

#111152 Aug 21, 2013
SistaNoneYaBiz wrote:
<quoted text>
You might be a cereal apologist if.... you responded to that post LOL
I do eat foods that are made from grains - even on Saturdays before dusk. I won't apologize for it because Jesus told me it was okay.
TheIndependentMa jority

London, KY

#111153 Aug 21, 2013
ChromiuMan wrote:
<quoted text>
I do eat foods that are made from grains - even on Saturdays before dusk. I won't apologize for it because Jesus told me it was okay.
Grain foods are good for people, even in twilight hours sometimes...and I don't think that guy Jesus would hold that against anyone.

Since: Jun 13

Location hidden

#111154 Aug 21, 2013
Mike Duquette wrote:
<quoted text>Another theist with no answers or rebuttal and thus resorts to calling people they disagree with, as having some mental handicap.
Of course you have no evidence of your claim, but we know you are a faith based person.
That Atheists have serious mental issues has been confirmed by various Independent Studies .
As an aside; The postings by Atheists serve to confirm the validity of said studies.
Blaming others for having caused your mental problems does not resolve this very serious problem.
Denial is never the solution to real life problems
stuck in a lodi

Pikeville, KY

#111155 Aug 21, 2013
Yes and Amen wrote:
<quoted text>The Penis was made before the medical devices...
"Were you trying to say that if I watch porn, lie or steal, That I am evil or vile?"
Yes!
None Good, no NOT one!
If you support porn, you support the evil that causes rapes, and cheating!
You cannot swim in the sewer, and smell like a rose!
How about you just admit you don't know what in the hail you're talking about, even when changing one word from watch to support doesn't change the fact that this is the ramblings of one person's opinions that carries as much weight as a water bucket without a bottom.
I asked you one simple question of how you come to the conclusion that a non believer is vile and evil, and this is how you responded. The only thing you accomplished with that answer is proving to the world that a Christian mind can be a dangerous thing. Allow me to emphasize this once again... seek help before you hurt yourself or someone else. How about you get your facts straight before you go around making blanket statements about people you know absolutely nothing about!
You want to discuss the duties of the anal now? It expels feces, pretty much the same way your mouth does. Any questions?
stuck in a lodi

Pikeville, KY

#111156 Aug 21, 2013
Yes and Amen wrote:
<quoted text>bout the Lotto...
Do you think He loves me more than you?
and as the lotto win would be more of a curse, than a blessing...
He gave us the cure for cancer... read the Bible!
Where was I when the new conference broke about the Cure for Cancer! Thousands of people are dying daily, and you are telling me and the world, that all those attending physicians had to do was read the bible to get the cure? Is there any other revelations in this book that the world needs to know about? Of course you have 100% proof of what you say is true? Don't you?

As for a lotto win being more of a curse than a blessing, that is your opinion too. It depends on if the person had the mental capabilities of being responsible enough to handle such an immediate windfall. In your case, I agree, it would be a curse.

“See how you are?”

Since: Jul 12

Earth

#111157 Aug 21, 2013
TheIndependentMajority wrote:
<quoted text>
Grain foods are good for people, even in twilight hours sometimes...and I don't think that guy Jesus would hold that against anyone.
I see you missed the biblical reference. One might think you are a fundie if you keep doing that.

“See how you are?”

Since: Jul 12

Earth

#111158 Aug 21, 2013
mantle wrote:
<quoted text>
That Atheists have serious mental issues has been confirmed by various Independent Studies .
As an aside; The postings by Atheists serve to confirm the validity of said studies.
Blaming others for having caused your mental problems does not resolve this very serious problem.
Denial is never the solution to real life problems
Fantasy is not the solution to real life problems, but if that's what it takes to make you feel okay inside your own skin I probably shouldn't judge you for it.
stuck in a lodi

Pikeville, KY

#111159 Aug 21, 2013
let me simplify this for you: If a person is proven to be a habitual liar, and thief, has never held a job in his life, has never been a productive member of society in his life, masturbates while watching children on a playground, then it would be safe to say, he is a vile, evil, and deviant person!

“I'll think about it.”

Since: Nov 07

central Florida

#111160 Aug 21, 2013
SistaNoneYaBiz wrote:
<quoted text>
For someone reason, I'm thinking you exaggerate.
I'm thinking I'm NOT exaggerating. Read on....

Post #70585 02/17/12

Mike Duquette wrote:
<quoted text>If god commanded you to kill your child, would you?
I am sure you will avoid this question.<end quote>

Yaa answered:

Are you sure?
I would make sure it WAS God first, and Knowing His will, I
really doubt it would be my God, more like your god!
Then, it would probably be like an Abrahamic test, as I would do exactly
what God requested!

“I'll think about it.”

Since: Nov 07

central Florida

#111161 Aug 21, 2013
Yes and Amen wrote:
<quoted text>If you knew God, you'd know how silly you are... and safe
Everyone is with a True Christian!
In case you missed Christ's teachings...
(1) Love God
(2) Love your neighbor
(3) Love your enemies
Not much room for your agenda there!
Love, love, love.....but kill if Yahweh says you should.
THAT is what the babble says.

“Question, Explore, Discover”

Since: Dec 11

Location hidden

#111163 Aug 21, 2013
SistaNoneYaBiz wrote:
<quoted text>
I think some of you try and use that blame card as some sort of ace in the hole trump card.
Nope..that one doesn't work so good when anyone considers all the "free choice, free will" imperfection and NON immortality of people in general..
That's just poor game of life conceptual skills dude...might want to read some instructions lol.
"Blame card"? What are you talking about?

If you're going to comment on the Problem of Evil as if you know about it, then you need to *know about it*. This is a deeply problematic religious and philosophical issue that goes all the way back to the Greeks, and most likely earlier.

As I told the other guy, free will does not get you out of this problem. I didn't say two adults made a choice to be bad, I said three little girls were raped and killed. Are you saying that the killer had free will to kill, and the girls had free will to be killed?

God is all powerful, correct? That's the idea of god supported by virtually all of Christian theology. God can literally do anything, with the exception of breaking basic logical truth. He can't make 2+4=5, for example.

But he can damn sure stop a child killer.

And yet what we find is kids are killed, brutally, all the time.

This is a serious problem for Christianity and other religions that posit an all powerful, all loving god. And lots of religious posters on here like to dodge it every single time it comes up. They want to immediately shift the argument to something else.

Do you understand?

“Breaking the spell ”

Since: Dec 10

of the puppet master

#111164 Aug 21, 2013
Yes and Amen wrote:
<quoted text>No I don't feel ok about that!
I have no idea why some things happen, why some non smokers die of lung cancer, and others smoke into their 90's without a problem...
Why one teacher gets punched in the head, and dies, and a person gets ran over by a car, and doesn't get a scratch, or why
2 rounds pass through my head without leaving a hole!
But I do know... it's Not about the body, but the soul!
Evil, or Good, choice to do right, or wrong!
Two rounds passed through your head? What?

Ok, so you do not know why these things happen. Well we atheists feel if an all powerful, loving god existed, these unfair things should not happen, or at least be lowered. But the cold hard fact is, these things happen as if no loving god cares or even exists. This is the point.
People claim prayer can heal, yet entire populations are wiped out by disease while they pray. It is as if no god is listening to these prayers.
stuck in a lodi

Pikeville, KY

#111165 Aug 21, 2013
stuck in a lodi wrote:
Please explain why you feel that non believers would consider rapist, molesters, killers, A-ok?
Lets see, Incest is weaved throughout the bible, Killings is commonplace in the bible, and all performed by men of God. I'll bet you'll post about these things being A-ok!
Here's the post Yaa... Show me where I said God condoned it....and ,,,, what CONTEXT are you elaborating of???

“Breaking the spell ”

Since: Dec 10

of the puppet master

#111166 Aug 21, 2013
Yiago wrote:
<quoted text>
Right, I get that point. And I said as much the last time. You have faith and devotion and until I have faith and devotion you will not accept that I *understand* your religion. You have put your religion into an entirely subjective position, unassailable by criticism.
To be honest that ended the conversation many, many pages ago. There is simply nothing more we can possibly say to each other if we are not going to use reason and logic to have the conversation. I am uninterested in surrendering my intellectual integrity to faith. You are uninterested in examining your religion critically. We have an impasse.
To be clear on the Bible issue, I don't mean to say I'm anything like an expert. I have a working knowledge of the subject and a purely intellectual interest in it. I can't quote it, and I don't remember most of what I read about it. It's a big damn book.
I am not aware of any Christian doctrine that states murder will be "pardoned" but not forgiven. If that is a specifically Mormon teaching then you are in a very small minority of opinion and the vast bulk of Christian teaching is against you.
How do you know you are correct? What was your process for figuring out the truth?
Note the Do What claimed earlier that a murder was forgiven in the bible. Kind David murdered the husband of the woman he impregnated.
Du What claimed David was finally forgiven after much repentance and god had to murder his baby in order to keep a pure blood line for the Jesus.
Known Fact

Kissimmee, FL

#111167 Aug 21, 2013
Mike Duquette wrote:
<quoted text>Two rounds passed through your head? What?
Ok, so you do not know why these things happen. Well we atheists feel if an all powerful, loving god existed, these unfair things should not happen, or at least be lowered. But the cold hard fact is, these things happen as if no loving god cares or even exists. This is the point.
People claim prayer can heal, yet entire populations are wiped out by disease while they pray. It is as if no god is listening to these prayers.
YOU DID NOT DIRECT THIS TO ME BUT I FELT OBLIGATED TO GIVE YOU AN ANSWER!
Why does God permit suffering?
Who really is to blame for it?
Humans are to blame for much of the suffering. They fight wars, commit crimes, pollute the environment, often carry on business in a manner motivated by greed rather than concern for their fellowman, and sometimes indulge in habits that they know can be harmful to their health. When they do these things, they hurt others and themselves. Should it be expected that humans would be immune to the consequences of what they do?(Gal. 6:7; Prov. 1:30-33) Is it reasonable to blame God for these things that humans themselves do?
Satan and his demons also share responsibility. The Bible discloses that much suffering is because of the influence of wicked spirits. The suffering for which so many people blame God does not come from him at all.—Rev. 12:12; Acts 10:38;
How did suffering get started? Examination of the causes focuses attention on our first human parents, Adam and Eve. Jehovah God created them perfect and put them in paradise surroundings. If they had obeyed God, they would never have got sick or died. They could have enjoyed perfect human life forever. Suffering was not part of Jehovah’s purpose for mankind. But Jehovah clearly told Adam that continued enjoyment of what He had given them depended on obedience. Obviously, they had to breathe, eat, drink, and sleep in order to continue living. And they had to keep God’s moral requirements in order to enjoy life fully and to be favored with such life forever. But they chose to go their own way, to set their own standards of good and bad, and thus they turned away from God, the Life-Giver.(Gen. 2:16, 17; 3:1-6) Sin led to death. It was as sinners that Adam and Eve produced children, and they could not pass on to their children what they no longer had. All were born in sin, with inclinations toward wrongdoing, weaknesses that could lead to illness, a sinful inheritance that would eventually result in death. Because everyone on earth today was born in sin, all of us experience suffering in various ways.—Gen. 8:21; Rom. 5:12.
Ecclesiastes 9:11 says that “time and unforeseen occurrence” also have a bearing on what happens to us. We may get hurt, not because the Devil directly causes it or because any human does it, but because by chance we are in a place at the wrong moment.

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