Bible study rules for public schools proposed

Feb 10, 2010 Full story: The Courier-Journal 132,163

FRANKFORT, Ky. - The state would create rules for teaching about the Bible in public high schools under a bill filed Monday by three Democratic senators.

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#111210 Aug 21, 2013
Mike Duquette wrote:
<quoted text>Note the Do What claimed earlier that a murder was forgiven in the bible. Kind David murdered the husband of the woman he impregnated.
Du What claimed David was finally forgiven after much repentance and god had to murder his baby in order to keep a pure blood line for the Jesus.
I thought god killed the baby (after days of suffering, by the way) to punish David. Y'know, cause that's how god morality works. When a slavish follower pisses you off you torture and kill a baby.

It's god's way.

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#111211 Aug 21, 2013
Mike Duquette wrote:
<quoted text>Two rounds passed through your head? What?
Yeah, I kinda ignored that one. I'm not sure how two rounds can pass through a head and not leave a hole. But hey, the body is an amazing thing.
TheIndependentMa jority

London, KY

#111212 Aug 21, 2013
Yiago wrote:
<quoted text>
"Blame card"? What are you talking about?
If you're going to comment on the Problem of Evil as if you know about it, then you need to *know about it*. This is a deeply problematic religious and philosophical issue that goes all the way back to the Greeks, and most likely earlier.
As I told the other guy, free will does not get you out of this problem. I didn't say two adults made a choice to be bad, I said three little girls were raped and killed. Are you saying that the killer had free will to kill, and the girls had free will to be killed?
God is all powerful, correct? That's the idea of god supported by virtually all of Christian theology. God can literally do anything, with the exception of breaking basic logical truth. He can't make 2+4=5, for example.
But he can damn sure stop a child killer.
And yet what we find is kids are killed, brutally, all the time.
This is a serious problem for Christianity and other religions that posit an all powerful, all loving god. And lots of religious posters on here like to dodge it every single time it comes up. They want to immediately shift the argument to something else.
Do you understand?
I don't think I've ever read any where in the Bible, any sort of "guarantee of immunity" against bad or evil from any God, for anyone-unfortunately, because that truly would be a wondrous thing-a perfect utopia.
I never could quite figure where those that assume such, get that notion to start with.

So I still stand with my belief (concerning the Bible) that it's all just in the different perspectives that people read from.
stuck in a lodi

Pikeville, KY

#111213 Aug 21, 2013
Mike Duquette wrote:
<quoted text>YaA claims the rounds made no exit wound. I guess they must still be lodged in his brain.
I'm really not sure what he's talking about.
Could be he's talking about playing a couple rounds of golf and 2 balls smacked him in the head?? who knows

If he was referring to Bullet wounds, I certainly can't see anyone surviving 2 rounds directly in the head, but if they do survive, still he able to have an intact, and normal functioning brain. hum, I may have hit on something there. That would explain his train of thought on some things.
Or maybe Yaa has reached that age where his train of thought often leaves the station without him!

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#111214 Aug 21, 2013
do whut wrote:
<quoted text>
My profession requires 100% logic so don't assume I'm not a logical person. Logic and faith are both required to understand the nature of God and His gospel. Don't assume they are mutually exclusive just because you heard some atheist say that.
Do you really want to know why I believe what I believe, or do you just want me to open up even more than I already have on here just to subject myself to more criticism and ridicule because it is fun for you?
Google "cognitive dissonance".

I think you are the smartest theist that posts on here, maybe that's why I keep arguing with you. Plus I'm interested in Christian sects such as the LDS. I like critiquing them.

Yeah, a person can be Vulcan in their logic but still be as silly as a little boy when it comes to religion. And you know, I don't have a problem with that privately. But if we're going to discuss the matter openly then I will not withhold my full opinion. I do not respect your beliefs because they are irrational. I don't care how logical you are in your daily life, you are irrational in your spiritual life.

As an example, you became a Mormon as an adult.

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#111215 Aug 21, 2013
do whut wrote:
<quoted text>
Is this how you work with people? You disrespect them, and if nothing happens you continue?
Of course not. But notice how you compared my use of "god damn" to disrespecting actual people.

God is not real, it's an idea. People are real. I like people and I try to be nice to them. Especially at work.

The Easter Bunny has goofy ears. Will he cry now?
stuck in a lodi

Pikeville, KY

#111216 Aug 21, 2013
Yiago wrote:
<quoted text>
Yeah, I kinda ignored that one. I'm not sure how two rounds can pass through a head and not leave a hole. But hey, the body is an amazing thing.
I have a trivia question for anyone who wants to answer... What is the only body part that cannot heal itself? Don't google the answer, just see if you can guess it...I guessed the second most popular answer, but it was wrong.
SistaNoneYa

London, KY

#111217 Aug 21, 2013
Mike Duquette wrote:
<quoted text>Well technically, rape and cheating came long before porn. Just ask King David.
From what I understand, countries that have legal prostitution have lower percentages of rape. Both may be of an evil, so to speak, but the lesser evil might just be overall better for a civil society.
Utopia cannot exist.
Ohhhohhhhh...

Bullchit Duquette-your BULLCHIT sometimes FRACTURES the realms of having ANY common decency and/or morality.

Maybe you should re-examine some of your OWN FLAWS and UNidealogies-and lay off of everyone else's for awhile-especially those who truly are NOT harming anyone else...because You are NO more entitled to some deviant delusional "utopia" than anyone else-ESPECIALLY at the expense of anyone else!

You DOG.
SistaNoneYa

London, KY

#111218 Aug 21, 2013
Mike Duquette wrote:
<quoted text>The moral of the story is, knowledge is not good to seek. Do not lust for knowledge. Stay ignorant and just blindly believe.
Believe it or not, I am not saying this sarcastically. I am quite sure this is what was meant by this, seeking of knowledge, on this forbidden metaphorical tree.
In other words, do not look to natural science for answers, just keep the blind faith that god did it, as the myth claims.
And your "natural science theory" does NOT have "all" the answers either!

In fact, that too, is FAR, FAR FROM having "all the answers"..
SistaNoneYa

London, KY

#111219 Aug 21, 2013
Mike Duquette wrote:
<quoted text>Sure, just pointing out the hypocrisy, which you just diverted from.
Stuff your self appointed decider judgemental "hypocrisy" up your OWN bloviated, wretched arse Duquette, if you can squeeze anything else beyond those piles of your own self esteemed (UN)righteousness Bullchit.

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#111220 Aug 21, 2013
"Never in the history of the world has there been ten rules that have caused such a disturbance in the conscience of a people as to affect a society, church, and government as do the Ten Commandments."
- Founder, www.GodstenLaws.com

“Speaker of Mountain Wisdom....”

Since: Jan 10

Somerset, KY

#111221 Aug 21, 2013
SistaNoneYa wrote:
<quoted text>
And your "natural science theory" does NOT have "all" the answers either!
In fact, that too, is FAR, FAR FROM having "all the answers"..
At what point in history has Science said it has all the answers? The Sciences seek explanations of the observed via evidence and testing of theory... It gives the Best Answer at the moment based on such but tries constantly to disprove every answer it comes up with... real Science is more about Disproving what has been considered Answered....

That's really the Difference between Religion and Science...

Religion Believes things are as they are and attempts to bolster such belief. Ignore contrary ideas, call into question anyone's qualifications that dare question those beliefs, and claim end of debate on the subject...

Science Does Not Believe things are as they seem and seeks to disprove long held dogma, Seeks contrary idea, care little about the Individual and considers the Content of ideas, Thrives on debate even on subjects that most claim as settled.....

“Speaker of Mountain Wisdom....”

Since: Jan 10

Somerset, KY

#111222 Aug 21, 2013
SistaNoneYa wrote:
<quoted text>
Stuff your self appointed decider judgemental "hypocrisy" up your OWN bloviated, wretched arse Duquette, if you can squeeze anything else beyond those piles of your own self esteemed (UN)righteousness Bullchit.
Don't get all huffy and mad because he's just a better than you are.. It's unbecoming......
SistaNoneYa

London, KY

#111223 Aug 21, 2013
Mike Duquette wrote:
<quoted text>So you think my approach to this debate of ideas is to aggressive thus I am a terrorist? And yet somehow equating aspects of religion to terrorism is outrageous?
The contradictions and hypocrisy never stop with you guys.
I guess pointing that out makes me a bully.
YES-you DO tend to come across as a bully, not just a bully, but even more so-- as a MEAN, ILL-SPIRITED BULLY.
ESPECIALLY if anyone does not see things "YOUR way", or Disagrees with you, to which you then just resort to sophomoric name calling.

No, equating EXTREMENESS of anything-INCLUDING religion to terrorism is not outrageous. But equating different cultural traditions, customs and beliefs that are different from ones, and calling it all "terrorism" is NOT realistic either!

And that is what it ALL boils down to for you isn't it.

The one COMMON, little, manipulative PUPPET thread, and you just don't care HOW you USE IT, to try to extend it beyond the puppet stage.

Let me tell you something of my OWN opinion MR Duquette.

THAT type of thing takes great deal of DIPLOMACY, deep insights and TOLERANCE, in a world full of MANY DIFFERENCES. And no matter how much ANYONE stands and tries to DEMAND that others see it all the SAME way, or ONLY one SPECIFIC way especially -it won't EVER happen, because that is NOT reality.

The BEST world leaders can hope for are UNDERSTANDINGS, grown and nurtured out of EARNED respect of and FOR the many differences in this old world, and mutual considerations and compromises of national alliances of shared INTEGRITY'S and ETHICS.

NOT WORLD DOMINANCE, because THAT type of stuff has been exactly what periled this world with people like Hitler.

Such cannot be gained by LIES OR INEPTNESS of mere flowery words either!

Just LOOK at what's going on world wide already!

IDEAS Duquette-IDEAS. How does a post 9/11 America, inundated by technologies of data that fly around through all continents of this world-keep up with it all?? What decides what SHOULD be checksumed and evaluated further, and what shouldn't? Who decides if the proper procedures are being used,(if even in place!) and when those lines have been crossed-and what is DONE when those who are supposed to be doing so-FAIL, or refuse to LEARN from the history of past FAILURES?

And, here we be, in the damn 21st century-- and yet you'd STILL rather resort to childish sandbox level "neener neener, you're a hypocrite" games?

Pfft.

Spare me the incidiousness.
SistaNoneYa

London, KY

#111224 Aug 21, 2013
Quantummist wrote:
<quoted text>
Don't get all huffy and mad because he's just a better than you are.. It's unbecoming......
Tough.
This is 21st century America-not dark age Babylon. I can be an Ahole too.
SistaNoneYa

London, KY

#111225 Aug 21, 2013
Quantummist wrote:
<quoted text>
At what point in history has Science said it has all the answers? The Sciences seek explanations of the observed via evidence and testing of theory... It gives the Best Answer at the moment based on such but tries constantly to disprove every answer it comes up with... real Science is more about Disproving what has been considered Answered....
That's really the Difference between Religion and Science...
Religion Believes things are as they are and attempts to bolster such belief. Ignore contrary ideas, call into question anyone's qualifications that dare question those beliefs, and claim end of debate on the subject...
Science Does Not Believe things are as they seem and seeks to disprove long held dogma, Seeks contrary idea, care little about the Individual and considers the Content of ideas, Thrives on debate even on subjects that most claim as settled.....
I know what Science is, as well as "religion".

And I'd almost wager anyone could really confuse you with SOME of your own propaganda like-

Care to explain "Scientology" ? Whoa. How about a Republican or a Democrat Scientologist?

Sometimes I think SOME of you all...really do deserve a POTUS like-
HILLARY CLINTON.

Be good enough for your DUHM, tail chasing, brainfart azzez.

“I'll think about it.”

Since: Nov 07

central Florida

#111226 Aug 21, 2013
SistaNoneYa wrote:
<quoted text>
Tough.
This is 21st century America-not dark age Babylon. I can be an Ahole too.
"Can be?" "CAN BE?"
LOL! You think we haven't noticed.
Nephilim

Somerset, KY

#111227 Aug 21, 2013
SistaNoneYa wrote:
<quoted text>
YES-you DO tend to come across as a bully, not just a bully, but even more so-- as a MEAN, ILL-SPIRITED BULLY.
ESPECIALLY if anyone does not see things "YOUR way", or Disagrees with you, to which you then just resort to sophomoric name calling.
No, equating EXTREMENESS of anything-INCLUDING religion to terrorism is not outrageous. But equating different cultural traditions, customs and beliefs that are different from ones, and calling it all "terrorism" is NOT realistic either!
And that is what it ALL boils down to for you isn't it.
The one COMMON, little, manipulative PUPPET thread, and you just don't care HOW you USE IT, to try to extend it beyond the puppet stage.
Let me tell you something of my OWN opinion MR Duquette.
THAT type of thing takes great deal of DIPLOMACY, deep insights and TOLERANCE, in a world full of MANY DIFFERENCES. And no matter how much ANYONE stands and tries to DEMAND that others see it all the SAME way, or ONLY one SPECIFIC way especially -it won't EVER happen, because that is NOT reality.
The BEST world leaders can hope for are UNDERSTANDINGS, grown and nurtured out of EARNED respect of and FOR the many differences in this old world, and mutual considerations and compromises of national alliances of shared INTEGRITY'S and ETHICS.
NOT WORLD DOMINANCE, because THAT type of stuff has been exactly what periled this world with people like Hitler.
Such cannot be gained by LIES OR INEPTNESS of mere flowery words either!
Just LOOK at what's going on world wide already!
IDEAS Duquette-IDEAS. How does a post 9/11 America, inundated by technologies of data that fly around through all continents of this world-keep up with it all?? What decides what SHOULD be checksumed and evaluated further, and what shouldn't? Who decides if the proper procedures are being used,(if even in place!) and when those lines have been crossed-and what is DONE when those who are supposed to be doing so-FAIL, or refuse to LEARN from the history of past FAILURES?
And, here we be, in the damn 21st century-- and yet you'd STILL rather resort to childish sandbox level "neener neener, you're a hypocrite" games?
Pfft.
Spare me the incidiousness.
When people get mad AND TYPE EVERYTHING LIKE THIS, it just means you were proven wrong and you didn't like it.

You should ask your God for patience.
SistaNoneYa

London, KY

#111228 Aug 21, 2013
Quantummist wrote:
<quoted text>
Don't get all huffy and mad because he's just a better than you are.. It's unbecoming......
Unbecoming? "Unbecoming"-
Better at having a nose full of drippy "hypcocrite" snot maybe. But there's alot of that type of stuff these days.
(as in WHO CARES-because that type of ignorance is NOT worth caring ten seconds about-except to reference the BIGGER picture to stomp some of it back to the gutters it climbs out of.)

“I'll think about it.”

Since: Nov 07

central Florida

#111229 Aug 21, 2013
Mike Duquette wrote:
<quoted text>Did you have that saved on your computer all this time or did you look this up?
Thanks for proving beyond a shadow of a doubt the claim of YaA being willing to kill his children for his god is no exaggeration.
And yet somehow the claims of blind faith with terrorism, being tied to the same fundamental concepts of YaA and others here is being claimed as terrorism itself.
YaA seems sure that god told him Obama is evil. Now should we be at ease with how YaA checks to see if the god is really his god?
Took me 5 hours of scanning through 1000s of posts, but no one gets to tell me I'm "exaggerating," meaning "lying."

I don't lie.

I will never forget reading his answer to you.
The man is dangerously delusional.

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