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Bible study rules for public schools proposed

There are 143120 comments on the The Courier-Journal story from Feb 10, 2010, titled Bible study rules for public schools proposed. In it, The Courier-Journal reports that:

FRANKFORT, Ky. - The state would create rules for teaching about the Bible in public high schools under a bill filed Monday by three Democratic senators.

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Yes and Amen

Georgetown, KY

#110853 Aug 18, 2013
Mike Duquette wrote:
<quoted text>Really? Sorry, but I think you are lying.
"Think" what you want!
But it's true!
And Obama proves with every move... He's not a good POTUS!
stuck in a lodi

Pikeville, KY

#110854 Aug 18, 2013
No one is damning you based on your beliefs, but you are constantly damning those who don't see things exactly as you do. Explain to me how you have a right to judge me as evil and you as good. Haven't we all shown you through proof that what you judge us by happened in the bible by the very ones you hold to be men of God.

What have you shown or contributed to us with proof?

Since: Jun 13

Location hidden

#110855 Aug 18, 2013
LOL in a suit wrote:
<quoted text>
Do you attribute your dishonesty to god or is it just you?
Whatever faults I have were learned from an article I once read, Titled " SEWER LIFE ,authored by LOL In a Suit.

“There is no god.”

Since: Jan 12

USA

#110856 Aug 18, 2013
Careful your christian is showing. Well you did follow gods law and not get involved with knowledge.

I will ask yet another question you will not answer.

When you committed your sin or sins and asked for forgiveness from your invisible friend did you also ask for forgiveness from the real person you did wrong?

Since: Jun 13

Location hidden

#110857 Aug 18, 2013
Yiago wrote:
<quoted text>
From Wiki:
"A German census in May 1939, completed more than six years into the Nazi era[2] and incorporating the annexation of mostly Catholic Austria into Germany, indicates that 54% of Germans considered themselves Protestant,(including non-denominational Christians) and 40% considered themselves Catholic, with only 3.5% claiming to be neo-pagan "believers in God," and 1.5 % non-Christians, or "non-believers". "
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religion_in_Nazi...
Taken from this source:
http://books.google.com/books...
Therefore Nazi Christians killed millions of Jews.
Likewise, concerning Stalin and those other a**clowns, they didn't do all the killing on their own. Their armies did it. Among those soldiers were most certainly many religious adherents. Regardless of whether or not a dictator says you can believe in god or gods people traditionally did and do believe. So the idea that these millions and millions of people were killed by atheists is absurd.
Put it this way. If a Catholic president ordered the slaughter of a million people it would be carried out by soldiers. What are the odds that all the soldiers would be Catholic?
Very, very low indeed.
He who gives the orders is the one who is responsible for ALL that transpired.
You guys keep looking for excuses in order to deflect responsibility for the heinious acts committed by these butchers.

I imagine Pol Pot and MaoTseDung hired Christian mercenaries to do their dirty work...
The facts are that Mao, Hitler ,Stalin and Pol Pot had the political and military power and the means by which they tried to eradicate religion.
They sent millions and millions of innocent civilians to their death . I am sure they considered themselves Honorable men.
And there are those who tried to take them off the hook,,,and still trying

“There is no god.”

Since: Jan 12

USA

#110858 Aug 18, 2013
mantle wrote:
<quoted text>
He who gives the orders is the one who is responsible for ALL that transpired.
You guys keep looking for excuses in order to deflect responsibility for the heinious acts committed by these butchers.
I imagine Pol Pot and MaoTseDung hired Christian mercenaries to do their dirty work...
The facts are that Mao, Hitler ,Stalin and Pol Pot had the political and military power and the means by which they tried to eradicate religion.
They sent millions and millions of innocent civilians to their death . I am sure they considered themselves Honorable men.
And there are those who tried to take them off the hook,,,and still trying
Bi-curious why do you change what you said. You said germany was not a christian country and the poster addressed that. Do all religies do that or just you? Is deceit part of the christian code or just yours?

“There is no god.”

Since: Jan 12

USA

#110860 Aug 18, 2013
mantle wrote:
<quoted text>
Whatever faults I have were learned from an article I once read, Titled " SEWER LIFE ,authored by LOL In a Suit.
Careful your christian is showing. Well you did follow gods law and not get involved with knowledge.

I will ask yet another question you will not answer.

When you committed your sin or sins and asked for forgiveness from your invisible friend did you also ask for forgiveness from the real person you did wrong?

Reposted did not want to add to your confusion.
Known Fact

Kissimmee, FL

#110861 Aug 18, 2013
Why are there so many religions?
A recent tabulation concluded that there are 10 main religions and some 10,000 sects. Of these, some 6,000 exist in Africa, 1,200 in the United States, and hundreds in other lands.
Many factors have contributed to the development of new religious groups. Some have said that the various religions all represent different ways of presenting religious truth. But a comparison of their teachings and practices with the Bible indicates, rather, that the diversity of religions is because people have become followers of men instead of listening to God. It is noteworthy that, to a large extent, teachings they hold in common, but that differ from the Bible, originated in ancient Babylon.(See pages 50, 51, under the heading “Babylon the Great.”)
Who is the instigator of such religious confusion? The Bible identifies Satan the Devil as “the god of this system of things.”(2 Cor. 4:4) It warns us that “the things which the nations sacrifice they sacrifice to demons, and not to God.”(1 Cor. 10:20) How vitally important, then, to make sure that we really are worshiping the true God, the Creator of heaven and earth, and that our worship is pleasing to him!
Are all religions acceptable to God?
Judg. 10:6, 7:“The sons of Israel again proceeded to do what was bad in the eyes of Jehovah, and they began to serve the Baals and the Ashtoreth images and the gods of Syria and the gods of Sidon and the gods of Moab and the gods of the sons of Ammon and the gods of the Philistines. So they left Jehovah and did not serve him. At this Jehovah’s anger blazed against Israel.”(If a person worships any thing or any person other than the true God, the Creator of heaven and earth, it is evident that his form of worship is not acceptable to Jehovah.)
Mark 7:6, 7:“He [Jesus] said to them [the Jewish Pharisees and scribes]:‘Isaiah aptly prophesied about you hypocrites, as it is written,“This people honor me with their lips, but their hearts are far removed from me. It is in vain that they keep worshiping me, because they teach as doctrines commands of men.”’”(Regardless of whom a group profess to worship, if they hold to doctrines of men instead of the inspired Word of God, their worship is in vain.)
Rom. 10:2, 3:“I bear them witness that they have a zeal for God; but not according to accurate knowledge; for, because of not knowing the righteousness of God but seeking to establish their own, they did not subject themselves to the righteousness of God.”(People may have God’s written Word but lack accurate knowledge of what it contains, because they have not been taught properly. They may feel that they are zealous for God, but they may not be doing what he requires. Their worship is not going to please God, is it?)
WeNeedGodBackinA merica

Tampa, FL

#110862 Aug 18, 2013
The more open minded people get the more gullible they are becoming.

“Breaking the spell ”

Since: Dec 10

of the puppet master

#110864 Aug 18, 2013
mantle wrote:
<quoted text>
He who gives the orders is the one who is responsible for ALL that transpired.
You guys keep looking for excuses in order to deflect responsibility for the heinious acts committed by these butchers.
I imagine Pol Pot and MaoTseDung hired Christian mercenaries to do their dirty work...
The facts are that Mao, Hitler ,Stalin and Pol Pot had the political and military power and the means by which they tried to eradicate religion.
They sent millions and millions of innocent civilians to their death . I am sure they considered themselves Honorable men.
And there are those who tried to take them off the hook,,,and still trying
Did anyone here claim hitler was not responsible for the deaths? Nope, so you are diverting as usual.
And it looks like you are letting the killers off the hook by the old, "I was just following orders" excuse. Just what the typical follower of barbaric men would say.
Moses told me to do it.

“Breaking the spell ”

Since: Dec 10

of the puppet master

#110865 Aug 18, 2013
mantle wrote:
<quoted text>
I am sure that Stalin,Mao Tse tung and other destructive atheists thought themselves to be Honorable men.
Mafia Chieftains consider themselves to be men of honor.
You need only read the postings of Atheists on this website and see how they self proclaim themselves men of honor...
At no time have they ever committed an act for which they would feel ashamed.
Of course ,that is all based on their value system , which may well permit for any type of behaviour as being acceptable as long as it pertains to them individually and not others.
Obviously , Honor is a hollow meaningless symbol,since it can be applied as one pleases.
Human nature is controlled by strong unhealthy desires.
Envy , greed ,lusts ,deceit and jealousy among others.
Those who deny that they have no such desires and are not motivated by such ,are liars , in addition to.
What you posted , which you are attributing to me , is a description of your own desires.
You are partially right. Many things that I no longer do , is due to my fear of God, but more importantly , I now realize hjow corrupt human nature is.
Those who claim to be (HONORABLE) and self righteous continue being controlled by their carnal desires and condem others for behaviour that they themselves continue to practice.
You , being an honorable person , best not cast the first stone, cause someone may unleash a mountainful of boulders in your direction...
Humans do have carnal desires. But it is not just religion that keeps men from acting animalistic. And of course religion is not so great at slowing the acts of mans nature either. So acting as if Christianity or any religion has the market cornered on morality is just silly and evidence deficient.

“Breaking the spell ”

Since: Dec 10

of the puppet master

#110866 Aug 18, 2013
mantle wrote:
<quoted text>
The Nazis and Christianity
By Bruce Walker
Christianity had declined severely in Germany at the time the Nazis came to power, which is why the Nazis were able to come to power. In his book, The Dictators, Richard Overy states that in the decades preceding the First World War Germany was becoming increasingly secular, and that after that war, from 1918 to 1931, 2.4 million Evangelical Christians formally renounced their faith as well as almost half a million Catholics. In Prussia, only 21% of the population took communion and in Hamburg only five percent of the population took communion. Before Hitler, German religious leaders were publicly condemning the rise of moral relativism and decline of traditional religious values.
Weimar Germany largely had abandoned Christianity and increasingly was embracing hedonism, Marxism and paganism. There, decline of Christianity in Germany led directly to the rise of Nazism. Professor Henri Lichtenberger in his 1937 book, The Third Reich, describes the religious life of the Weimar Republic as a place in which the large cities were "spiritual cemeteries" with almost no believers at all, except for those who were members of the clergy. The middle class went through the motions, but lacked all living faith. The workers, influenced by socialism, were suspicious of the church. Even in the countryside, preachers had little influence on the people. In the 1938 book, The War Against God, by Sidney Dark and R.S. Essex, describes pre-Nazi antipathy toward Christianity by noting that churches had lost all their vitality and that their services were lifeless. Mower, in his 1938 book, Germany Puts the Clock Back, wrote that by 1920, God and Christianity had been in steady decline, a process that had begun in 1860. Mower talks about a culture not so much casual as vicious about sexuality. He writes of art sickened into atonal music, about the absence of any sense of sin, about entire graduating classes in high school turning up for birth control devices, and about the commonplace occurrence of abortion.
This hostility or indifference toward Christianity in Europe, and especially in Germany, led naturally to a profound anti-Christian sentiment in Nazi Germany
Sounds like every preacher or Fox News host these days talking about America.
I am sure these things have been said since the first religion was ever invented.
It is par for the course in any fire and brimstone sermon. Moses used the same theme.
Same speech, different day.

“Speaker of Mountain Wisdom....”

Since: Jan 10

Manchester, KY

#110868 Aug 19, 2013
Yes and Amen wrote:
<quoted text>LOL
So is God!
"So you say, but cannot demonstrate"

“Speaker of Mountain Wisdom....”

Since: Jan 10

Manchester, KY

#110869 Aug 19, 2013
Yes and Amen wrote:
<quoted text>Great post!
We all bleed red!
Except for Smurfs.... I hate freaky Blue People.....
Skinny

Campbellsville, KY

#110870 Aug 19, 2013
Religious nutcakes, lol.
If only there were a way to bio-engineer a lethal virus that killed the simple minded retards but left the rest of us intact.

“Question, Explore, Discover”

Since: Dec 11

Location hidden

#110871 Aug 19, 2013
mantle wrote:
<quoted text>
Your questions are based on your nonunderstanding of reality.
Questions based on one's ignorance of the truth can not be answered in an intelligent manner , since the content of the question is based on a nonintelligent supposition.
So I have not answered your questions , not due to my dcelusions or confusion.
It is primarily due to the questioner being confused,deluded and mentally disabled.
No Atheist has, nor will they hurt me.
One of the problems confronting Christianity is that Atheists and
other mentally vasectomized individuals try to portray an erroneous picture of what Christianity is.
Let me give you an example;
In your state of ignorance , you claim that the jails are full of Christians...You have no clue as to what being a Christian means.
That someone may claim they believe in Jesus,DOES NOT a CHRISTIAN MAKE.
I would think that someone asking a question from a lack of knowledge about the subject is actually exactly the kind of question you ought to be able to answer, if you know what you're talking about. So the first part of your reply to the other poster makes no sense.

And then you go and do a No True Scotsman, which I'm sure we've discussed before (this is "curious", correct?).

It goes like this:

Angus: No Scotsman would wear boxer briefs under his kilt.

Calum: But Fergus wears them.

Angus: Well he's not a *true* Scotsman.

Just insert "Christian" instead of "Scotsman" to see where your logic went off the rails. By your logic virtually any Christian you meet fails to be a Christian since the *only* way you can tell is that they claim to be one.

“Question, Explore, Discover”

Since: Dec 11

Location hidden

#110872 Aug 19, 2013
Known Fact wrote:
<quoted text>
I agree!
What do you think of the following information?
Why are there so many religions?
A recent tabulation concluded that there are 10 main religions and some 10,000 sects. Of these, some 6,000 exist in Africa, 1,200 in the United States, and hundreds in other lands.
Many factors have contributed to the development of new religious groups. Some have said that the various religions all represent different ways of presenting religious truth. But a comparison of their teachings and practices with the Bible indicates, rather, that the diversity of religions is because people have become followers of men instead of listening to God. It is noteworthy that, to a large extent, teachings they hold in common, but that differ from the Bible, originated in ancient Babylon.(See pages 50, 51, under the heading “Babylon the Great.”)
Who is the instigator of such religious confusion? The Bible identifies Satan the Devil as “the god of this system of things.”(2 Cor. 4:4) It warns us that “the things which the nations sacrifice they sacrifice to demons, and not to God.”(1 Cor. 10:20) How vitally important, then, to make sure that we really are worshiping the true God, the Creator of heaven and earth, and that our worship is pleasing to him!
Are all religions acceptable to God?
Judg. 10:6, 7:“The sons of Israel again proceeded to do what was bad in the eyes of Jehovah, and they began to serve the Baals and the Ashtoreth images and the gods of Syria and the gods of Sidon and the gods of Moab and the gods of the sons of Ammon and the gods of the Philistines. So they left Jehovah and did not serve him. At this Jehovah’s anger blazed against Israel.”(If a person worships any thing or any person other than the true God, the Creator of heaven and earth, it is evident that his form of worship is not acceptable to Jehovah.)
Mark 7:6, 7:“He [Jesus] said to them [the Jewish Pharisees and scribes]:‘Isaiah aptly prophesied about you hypocrites, as it is written,“This people honor me with their lips, but their hearts are far removed from me. It is in vain that they keep worshiping me, because they teach as doctrines commands of men.”’”(Regardless of whom a group profess to worship, if they hold to doctrines of men instead of the inspired Word of God, their worship is in vain.)
Rom. 10:2, 3:“I bear them witness that they have a zeal for God; but not according to accurate knowledge; for, because of not knowing the righteousness of God but seeking to establish their own, they did not subject themselves to the righteousness of God.”(People may have God’s written Word but lack accurate knowledge of what it contains, because they have not been taught properly. They may feel that they are zealous for God, but they may not be doing what he requires. Their worship is not going to please God, is it?)
Wait...is this tract of nonsense actually claiming that all "false" religions come from Babylon? Did it not say that there are 6000 different African religions?

Do you not understand that no African culture originated in Babylon? It's quite the opposite.

Fundamentalists trying to write wordy things always amuse me.

“Question, Explore, Discover”

Since: Dec 11

Location hidden

#110873 Aug 19, 2013
Yes and Amen wrote:
<quoted text>I'll bet those girls went to heaven, and most likely not even thinking about that right now!
But... lets do study the things that make perverts!
You ever buy, rent, or watch an adult mag, or video???
See, that also is another choice, as the Bible states...
whom you yield yourselves to, you are their servants!
Much evil is in those pages, ruining families, and lives!
Supported by the ignorant to turn decency to indecency!
I'll bet that you'll post about Porn being A-ok, and not
understand the depths of depravity!
Actually, I'm wondering how your brain keeps from imploding. You just shrugged off the question about little girls being raped and killed and immediately shifted the topic.

I want to know how you feel it is justified for your god - all powerful, all knowing, all loving - to allow this to happen. And don't give me the free will bullsh*t. These were little girls overpowered and killed, brutally.

Would it have inconvenienced your all loving sky daddy to flex his finger and cause the attacker to suddenly have a heart attack or something? Or hey, how's this...he could have done any number of little things to prevent the situation from even coming up.

But no. He just sits back and watches.

You feel alright about little kids being raped?

“Question, Explore, Discover”

Since: Dec 11

Location hidden

#110874 Aug 19, 2013
mantle wrote:
<quoted text>
He who gives the orders is the one who is responsible for ALL that transpired.
You guys keep looking for excuses in order to deflect responsibility for the heinious acts committed by these butchers.
I imagine Pol Pot and MaoTseDung hired Christian mercenaries to do their dirty work...
The facts are that Mao, Hitler ,Stalin and Pol Pot had the political and military power and the means by which they tried to eradicate religion.
They sent millions and millions of innocent civilians to their death . I am sure they considered themselves Honorable men.
And there are those who tried to take them off the hook,,,and still trying
I agree that the leader who gives the orders is the one most culpable. People in the military or other areas of service don't have a lot of choice when they are given orders.

But that doesn't get you off the hook. Your arguments have been that these atrocities came about as a result of the actions of atheists. But Christians and other religious people were clearly involved. In fact, religious people clearly made up the vast majority of the killers (I'm not sure what the level of religiosity was in China among the general population, but Germany was nearly 100% Christian).
SistaNoneyaBiz

London, KY

#110875 Aug 19, 2013
Quantummist wrote:
<quoted text>
I don't think anything is evil or holy... I do think some people are vile and some not so much and some extraordinary....
The SCIENCE channels line up for today.
(Beats the he-double hockey sticks out of having to look at or listen to any of the twisted and distorted piles of verbal data poo floating out duh o-vile orfice of the current commietic type, Constiutional breaching administration of charlatans A-N-Y day.)

SCIENCE discussing anitiquity. Gotta love it.:-)

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