Bible study rules for public schools proposed

Feb 10, 2010 Full story: The Courier-Journal 131,866

FRANKFORT, Ky. - The state would create rules for teaching about the Bible in public high schools under a bill filed Monday by three Democratic senators.

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#110787 Aug 18, 2013
Yes and Amen wrote:
<quoted text>Oh no...
I lied, cheated, stolen, drugged, ruined lives...
I AM the Wretch the song refers to!
Here's what you don't get...
I've been Forgiven, Justified, and WORKING on Sanctified!
I hope you get to know just how good that feels!
I can, and will face worse that what you put out, and Gladly!
My Savior Lives!
Amen!
All I am getting out of your response is, you now feel you are justified to lie.

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#110788 Aug 18, 2013
SistaNoneYaBiz wrote:
<quoted text>
Actually, the sane and rational amongst actually try to DIScourage any toxic plague like spews deriving of that type of willfull, dark age, centuries old depraved type ignorance, becaue we do NOT want to distort or degenerate young, impressionable minds--or let anything that promotes that kind of socioILLogical warpedness, near them for that matter.
And yet you wish for the bible to be taught in public schools? How hypocritical.

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#110789 Aug 18, 2013
mantle wrote:
<quoted text>
That is a very clear description of your problem. You did not listen to the interview and sre prepared to express your opinion on an event you did not witness.
That is the type of mentality that will try and explain the origens of Life and the Universe.
Opinions based on non evidence and personal feelings.
On your points ,we do not assume how the Universe came into existence. We believe God brought everything into existence.
What one may say about oneself is not indicative of what one is.
The Mafia has always denied there is no Mafia. We know different.
Hitler was not a Christian,period.
The monsters I mentioned were all Atheists and tried to abolish religion , confiscated churches , temples and synagogues and converted them to secular use.
They sent millions of innocent people to their deaths.
You may consider that as being asinine.
The facts are that , the greatest atrocities committed against humanity have been committed by Atheists. Something in their human nature that makes them behave in such an immoral and heinious way.
Again you forget the claimed atrocity god committed in that flood. But of course it is but myth.
Hitler killed no one, his followers did. His followers were Christians.
In part you are correct. Just as the mafia denies the mafia, Hitler denied being an unbeliever. Why? Clearly he needed to portray being a believer, in order to sway believers to murder unbelievers. Those unbelievers were the people who denied Jesus was a deity.

Jews are atheistic to Christian theism. So in this case, the Christians murdered the atheists of their theism.

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#110790 Aug 18, 2013
Quantummist wrote:
<quoted text>
Just want to make sure the science is correct, your statement is completely wrong...
At the rate the moon is receding ,3.8 centimeters per year, 3.8 cm X 10,000 equals 38000 cm ... 38,000 cm equals 0.24 miles..... it's orbit 10,000 years ago would have been less than a quarter mile closer than today and would have had Zero impact on tidal or gravitational pull different than today...
I suggest you not appeal to science to bolster your claims, it makes you look like you don't know what you are talking about...
Thanks for the facts. I am sure the actual facts like this are never in the propaganda YaA reads.

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#110791 Aug 18, 2013
curious wrote:
<quoted text>
Permit me to interject .
I do believe that yes and amen has proven how foolish you are.
Your response to his posting clearly indicates that in the land of Fools , you are the court Jester.
Your anger, ignorance and foolishness in no way has an adverse effect on our Faith.
The reason being is that we believe that;
He in whom we believe and trust , lives.
Our God reigns and Christ is Lord.
On the other hand , you believe in old rocks , absurd opinions about unwitnessed events that supposedly happened billions of years ago in an undetermined place , time or date.
These rocks and absurd opinions have made no contribution to our system of government , laws or moral code...
Proven to who? You are already on team YaA.
It seems easier to believe a rock is real, as one can feel it, see it, or even maybe throw it. Science can even calculate dates the rock was formed. Science can make deductions from how the rocks are set in formations as to how they may have come to be. Call it a guess if you wish, but the guess is educated.

I get it, you are at war with natural science. I like geology and wish it to be taught in public schools.
I protest your religion, not due to some sort of search for god as you claim, but due to your war on natural science.

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#110792 Aug 18, 2013
Yes and Amen wrote:
<quoted text>Pluto? To give Hubble something to look at?
Ebola? Genesis 3!
God has to keep His promise!
He said... Do this, and Live, do that, and die!
The thing you don't get... It's not the body that matters!
Double standards as always with you theists. Expect science to have all the answers or else you refuse to accept any of their answers.
Yet when pressed for an answer here, you claim no answer is needed? Double standard.

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#110793 Aug 18, 2013
Yes and Amen wrote:
<quoted text>The fact is... Dawkins, and ALL of his followers...
Don't have "Facts", they have "Conjecture"...
That is a Fact!
You'd do well to watch Fox, as You might get some truth with
your news!
"Truth" with the news? Or more like some far right wing propaganda with your news.

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#110794 Aug 18, 2013
Yes and Amen wrote:
<quoted text>god of the gaps... so cute, you parrot Dawkins!
What you don't get is...
We Know God is real... He saved us!
You'd do well to find Him, cause "Conjecture" of the gaps is
Just plain stupid when faced with the truth!
But Dawkins did not give "conjecture" on the question we are talking about. He honestly said, we don't know. So again you lie for your agenda. Now go pray your guilt away.

Bill is "throwing in with Jesus", as he has not yet seen all his questions answered about the universe.

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#110795 Aug 18, 2013
Yes and Amen wrote:
<quoted text>"Are you saying, if an act does not produce children"
No! I'm saying It's against God, and an abomination!
Pure lust for perversion!
You might ask of what people did God command this!
Not the gentiles, only the Jews!
The classification of creatures on this earth, are MAN's
classifications, NOT God's!
Tell us... How can a Rock learn to breathe, crawl out of a pond,
and grow up to classify other "LIFE" forms???
"Conjecture" of the gaps???
Well we are aware it is "against god", or at least the god you worship. Now if you could only show real reasons it is an abomination?

I know, you have a god of double standards. One for Jews and another standard for gentiles.
So I now clearly see why theists tend to have double standards in general. You learned by example. The old, so as I say, not as I do, method of teaching.

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#110796 Aug 18, 2013
Yes and Amen wrote:
<quoted text>It's more than just "Saying" I'm sorry... It's called repentance!
God knows your heart, If you do not want Him... after all He's done to prove He is God, waiting patiently for people to choose...
There is sin in everyone, even that person you say has lead a "Honest" life!
Lusting over pornography, and his secretary, or whatever it is
None Good, NO NOT ONE! Only God!
His standards are extremely High...
So, 2,000 years ago... He sent a savior...
Everyone Knows about Him, Everyone can Choose Him, or deny Him!
My salvation seems to have come at an early age, as I
Believed in my heart, God, and Jesus were real, but satan lead me away! But God was patient, and working in my whole life!
40 years later, He proved Himself to me!
He told me Obama was evil, and Lo, n behold... he is evil!
IF it was only that, I'd still Follow Him, but it was WAY more
than just that!
God is real, your choice to deny it... that's on you!
So all those Christians who support Obama are what, lead by Satan? Are you just trying to get on Q's good side here?

I really don't even know what to say about this insane claim of yours.

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#110797 Aug 18, 2013
Yes and Amen wrote:
<quoted text>The fact that it was closer, in your narrative of 50 billion years??? it would've been pretty detrimental to life!
And... how do you know what a quarter mile "might" do, or not?
Conjecture???
Did you already forget that you claimed to know what the moons position ten thousand years ago would do? Wait, you just claimed it again here.
The double standards are piled on.

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#110798 Aug 18, 2013
Yes and Amen wrote:
<quoted text>Since I know the Creator, I'll forego all the impertinent stuff!
We're here, and "Choice" is the point of it...
Of course you will, as this enables your double standards.

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#110799 Aug 18, 2013
SistaNoneYaBiztheheathen wrote:
<quoted text>
Too bad for you...it shows in your hater level sucky posts.
On the brighter side however-
There's a whole bunch of other people that would disagree with you on that one.
Too bad for you again.
"Jesus is just alright with me, Jesus is just alright with me, Jesus is just alright with me...." (The Doobie Brothers) and souless, hatefilled atheist type can just stay in hell.
Pitchfork hypocrite.

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#110800 Aug 18, 2013
stuck in a lodi wrote:
<quoted text>
Ask those same questions to the Jewish Nation and see how many "yes" you get.
The Nazi's who said "yes" murdered the Jews who said no. Coincidence?

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#110801 Aug 18, 2013
do whut wrote:
<quoted text>
1. Here you go again telling me what the Bible says. You are wrong. Understand that when Jesus talks about Paradise or Prison, He is speaking of the Spirit World. For example, He told the thief on the cross that he would be in Paradise with Him. It isn't possible for him to go to heaven because Jesus also said that without baptism, one cannot enter heaven. Paradise is where those that have repented go until judgment day. Also He went to teach the souls in Prison after His death. Why, unless they have the opportunity to accept Him?
These are just two examples that speak of the Spirit World, which is plenty to show you that you do not know the Bible well enough to tell believers what it does or does not say. I enjoy this though, so please keep trying.
The Bible does speak of an age of accountability. Before a certain age, the sins of a child rest with the parents. This means they have no sin in them and will not need a judgment. So this is Biblical as well.
Hopefully this adequately explains what you asked. If not, I'll go deeper with you on this subject.
2. Sorry you don't "buy" the Holy Spirit. Maybe one day you will recognize the source of good in your own thoughts.
Again, if a person does not have the ability to exercise free will die to mental illness, then they cannot sin.
I have openly spoken on faith here. You have commented so I know you read it.
The key to belief in God is understanding that life has a purpose beyond that which we see on this earth. Understanding that there is a being that created us and gave us the opportunity to learn and grow to prepare us for something magnificent, puts daily struggles and even negative encounters with others, in perspective.
Murder of innocent blood and denial of the Holy Ghost we are told are the unforgivable sins. It isn't for us to judge sins, but we are told that these acts will not be forgiven in this life, nor the life to come.(Which by the way, this wording suggests that other sins can be forgiven in the next life to come, which is the Spirit World, where we go before judgment day).
The Catholics teaching is very similar to LDS on this topic (Jesus preaching to spirits in prison and sin against the holy spirit.

If murdering the innocent is a unforgivable sin, would that not be a little hard to swallow, as this example would show? German Mormons killed Jews during ww2 and the Jews were innocent (that would include men women and children). Even though because of Hitlers orders would be to convenient to dismiss the crime.

Another thing is you cannot deny something that has not proven it self to exist as a God. Now if you're preaching a heresy till that time that Jesus did appear causing many people to be misled that would be troubling I would think.

So if you are preaching a heresy and atheist just do not acknowledge a God exists because you failed the biblical test of having faith the size of a mustard seed to prove it, then I would say you and others may have something to worry about.

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#110802 Aug 18, 2013
do whut wrote:
<quoted text>
1. Here you go again telling me what the Bible says. You are wrong. Understand that when Jesus talks about Paradise or Prison, He is speaking of the Spirit World. For example, He told the thief on the cross that he would be in Paradise with Him. It isn't possible for him to go to heaven because Jesus also said that without baptism, one cannot enter heaven. Paradise is where those that have repented go until judgment day. Also He went to teach the souls in Prison after His death. Why, unless they have the opportunity to accept Him?
These are just two examples that speak of the Spirit World, which is plenty to show you that you do not know the Bible well enough to tell believers what it does or does not say. I enjoy this though, so please keep trying.
The Bible does speak of an age of accountability. Before a certain age, the sins of a child rest with the parents. This means they have no sin in them and will not need a judgment. So this is Biblical as well.
Hopefully this adequately explains what you asked. If not, I'll go deeper with you on this subject.
2. Sorry you don't "buy" the Holy Spirit. Maybe one day you will recognize the source of good in your own thoughts.
Again, if a person does not have the ability to exercise free will die to mental illness, then they cannot sin.
I have openly spoken on faith here. You have commented so I know you read it.
The key to belief in God is understanding that life has a purpose beyond that which we see on this earth. Understanding that there is a being that created us and gave us the opportunity to learn and grow to prepare us for something magnificent, puts daily struggles and even negative encounters with others, in perspective.
Murder of innocent blood and denial of the Holy Ghost we are told are the unforgivable sins. It isn't for us to judge sins, but we are told that these acts will not be forgiven in this life, nor the life to come.(Which by the way, this wording suggests that other sins can be forgiven in the next life to come, which is the Spirit World, where we go before judgment day).
So what is this "certain age"? Does this mean kids can murder?
"Innocent" is so subjective. Likely the excuse for all the murders committed by believers. Judge not.

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#110803 Aug 18, 2013
mantle wrote:
<quoted text>
You are intentionally overlooking the obvious.
You'd best check your nose.
The excremental stench that is reaching it may well be emanating from that which is posted by you and the other Atheists that spend their lifetime debating that which they claim does not exist , but ,which their conscience keeps telling them otherwise.
Dawkins being a perfect case in point.
OH God , he exclaimed , at not being able to remember the name of the book whose author he worships..
There is something always there to remind you..
The inner voice.. Perhaps it could be termed a ( Freudian slip)
Again, I protest your faith because it is the root of your war on science, as you are demonstrating here.

Darwin is not the "theory of evolution". The origin of species is not a holy book. It need not be read by a person who believes in evolution. One need not even know who Darwin is, in order to believe in evolution. The science stands on its own. No persons testimony need be taken on faith.
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#110804 Aug 18, 2013
What these Bible Thumpers seem to overlook is Billions of people on this planet worship God/Jesus only in different ways, they may believe God is real, but Jesus is a myth, yet they feel their religion is spot on right. Others my believe Jesus is real and God is a myth. The Indian Nation have a religion they follow, The wiccan have a religion they follow, and on and on it goes. People can believe whatever the hell they want, but when they demand their belief is correct in every way, and everyone else is wrong, yet shows no proof of their demands, that spins me into a dimension of pizzed off I rarely enter.

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#110805 Aug 18, 2013
Yes and Amen wrote:
<quoted text>Here's the issue...
God saved me... I'm telling you!
You choose what you want to believe!
I pray you do not follow the rest to hell!
Sue me if that bothers you!
Is that the issue? Well it was not the issue when you wrote that claim about the moon. But nice diversion.

Face it, you got slammed by actual science so you reverted to your corner of blind faith.

Quantummist wrote:
<quoted text>
No... There's this thing called Physics, It the study of matter with inertial mass in motion relative to other matter with inertial mass in motion... That's how I Know, not think I know, Not Guess I know, Not Believe... I Know that the mass of the moon being 1 mile or 20 miles or 50 miles closer will have so little gravitational difference than it's position today that it would have no measurable effect of Earth... Well If I had the right extremely accurate gravimeter I might be able to measure the .00000000001g variance but doubt it...
Now 50 Billion years ago the Earth did not exist so that actually is really not an issue....
On the other hand 3.5 Billion years ago just after the impact that gave us our moon when it was really close the tide would have been 100's of feet high and since the earth was spinning much faster and a day was about 16 hours long it was actually Very important to life... It brought the Billions of tons of organic molecules that had been raining down on earth, and had already been evolving for Billions of years in the universe, on to land during the tides and left them to concentrate in the tide pools while being bombarded by UV radiation and electrical discharges from the methane and carbon dioxide atmosphere...
Again not Conjecture... We have the rocks, chemicals, base organic compounds that give Evidence to such... Not to say life would not have formed without the moon but life as We Know It would not have developed without the close proximity of the moon.. If the Moon had not slowly at a few centimeters a year moved away from the planet then there is a good bet that life would have never occupied the lands... A good bet the life that would have evolved would have been completely different than anything we see today.. But what ever form it took the environment would have been Perfect for it and it would have thought everything was created perfect for it, tides that raced 100's of miles on the the lands giving it's young pools to hatch in and then washing them into the acidic seas to breath methane and use the photosynthesizing cells on it's back to convert the solar radiation into energy... It's 10,000 eyes watching for predators as they frolicked in the hot volcano heated oceans... But that last parts Conjecture....
I know it sounds like conjecture to someone that has little to Zero education in the subject areas... Much like trying to explain Airplanes to a aboriginal Amazonian tribesman, or a BIC lighter for that matter... It comes across as unbelievable until you flick your BIC, then it is Magic..

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#110806 Aug 18, 2013
Yes and Amen wrote:
<quoted text>Remember...
God told me that "Obama was NOTHING to be proud of!"
Case closed!
God is real!
Really? Sorry, but I think you are lying.

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