Bible study rules for public schools ...

Bible study rules for public schools proposed

There are 153735 comments on the The Courier-Journal story from Feb 10, 2010, titled Bible study rules for public schools proposed. In it, The Courier-Journal reports that:

FRANKFORT, Ky. - The state would create rules for teaching about the Bible in public high schools under a bill filed Monday by three Democratic senators.

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“See how you are?”

Since: Jul 12

Earth

#109560 Aug 3, 2013
curious wrote:
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You must have majored in gibberish at the mental institution from which you got your degree
You have an obsession with the word "created" that leads to your inability to understand any mechanism other than "Goddiditwithmagic" or "afalsegoddiditwithmagic. "
SistaNoneYaBiz

London, KY

#109563 Aug 3, 2013
ChromiuMan wrote:
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You have an obsession with the word "created" that leads to your inability to understand any mechanism other than "Goddiditwithmagic" or "afalsegoddiditwithmagic. "
Notice the major DIFFERENCE in grammar usage of description..."Prose, Poetry"? Ahh, much more suitably defined! Curses to ignorance, give SOME of us actual enlightenment!

RELST 2724 - Intro to Hebrew Bible

The Hebrew Bible (Old Testament) is a repository of ancient Israelite religious, political, social, historical and literary traditions. For the modern reader these ancient traditions are often obscured by a focus on the text as revelation. The purpose of this course is to introduce students to the biblical world by reading the Hebrew Bible in translation, on its own terms, as a body of literature that evolved in an ancient Near Eastern context. The Bible itself will be the primary text for the course, but students will also be exposed to the rich and diverse textual traditions of the ancient Near East, including Mesopotamia, Egypt, Moab and Ugarit. In addition, this course will explore the impact of early biblical interpretation on shaping the monotheistic traditions inherited in the West. As participants in a secular course on the Bible, students will be challenged to question certain cultural assumptions about the composition and authorship of the Bible, and will be expected to differentiate between a text's content and its presumed meaning.

RELST 3713 - Mizrahi Literature: Poetry and Prose of Jews of the Muslim World in the 20th Century (also JWST/NES 3713)

In this course we will read a selection of works of Jews of the Muslim world in the 20th century, and follow the diversity of languages, genres and geography, and connect those to questions of community and immigration, Colonialism and nationalism, religion and secularization, Canon and its margins, tradition and identity. We will start with the tradition of the Piyut (Liturgical poetry) in Rabbinical Hebrew and Judeo-Arabic; We'll continue with the writing in Judeo-Spanish (Ladino), and discuss Sepharadic identity; We will then move to the writing in Colonial languages (mainly French and English); Then we'll follow the writing of Jews in literary Arabic, mainly in Iraq and Israel, and discuss Jewish-Arab identity; In the Israeli context we will move to discuss writing in Israeli Hebrew, and discuss Mizrahi identity. All readings will be in English.

“Topix Idiotae plena estut tibi”

Since: Jul 13

Location hidden

#109564 Aug 4, 2013
Jutdontell wrote:
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Department of Religious Studies

and it goes on a bit...

GOD Bless America--Sooooo glad institutes of Higher edu do NOT buy(intothatnoweligion)bull of Commietic type narrow minded ignorance!!
These institutions of higher learning are all private schools, as they receive no public funding they are able to put whatever they like in their curriculum. Also, being that they are all Ivy League schools, it's unlikely they will have many students who blindly follow without question.

I've taken religious studies classes as well, they aren't faith based classes...they examine the religion, it's doctrine, and it's evolution. They are more akin to a history class than anything else, you study the influence of religion not the religion's holy books.

“See how you are?”

Since: Jul 12

Earth

#109566 Aug 4, 2013
SistaNoneYaBiz wrote:
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Notice the major DIFFERENCE in grammar usage of description..."Prose, Poetry"? Ahh, much more suitably defined! Curses to ignorance, give SOME of us actual enlightenment!
RELST 2724 - Intro to Hebrew Bible
The Hebrew Bible (Old Testament) is a repository of ancient Israelite religious, political, social, historical and literary traditions. For the modern reader these ancient traditions are often obscured by a focus on the text as revelation. The purpose of this course is to introduce students to the biblical world by reading the Hebrew Bible in translation, on its own terms, as a body of literature that evolved in an ancient Near Eastern context. The Bible itself will be the primary text for the course, but students will also be exposed to the rich and diverse textual traditions of the ancient Near East, including Mesopotamia, Egypt, Moab and Ugarit. In addition, this course will explore the impact of early biblical interpretation on shaping the monotheistic traditions inherited in the West. As participants in a secular course on the Bible, students will be challenged to question certain cultural assumptions about the composition and authorship of the Bible, and will be expected to differentiate between a text's content and its presumed meaning.
RELST 3713 - Mizrahi Literature: Poetry and Prose of Jews of the Muslim World in the 20th Century (also JWST/NES 3713)
In this course we will read a selection of works of Jews of the Muslim world in the 20th century, and follow the diversity of languages, genres and geography, and connect those to questions of community and immigration, Colonialism and nationalism, religion and secularization, Canon and its margins, tradition and identity. We will start with the tradition of the Piyut (Liturgical poetry) in Rabbinical Hebrew and Judeo-Arabic; We'll continue with the writing in Judeo-Spanish (Ladino), and discuss Sepharadic identity; We will then move to the writing in Colonial languages (mainly French and English); Then we'll follow the writing of Jews in literary Arabic, mainly in Iraq and Israel, and discuss Jewish-Arab identity; In the Israeli context we will move to discuss writing in Israeli Hebrew, and discuss Mizrahi identity. All readings will be in English.
Yeah okay, everybody knows by now that you have a THO for Semitic history. So what?

“Question, Explore, Discover”

Since: Dec 11

Location hidden

#109567 Aug 4, 2013
Mike Duquette wrote:
<quoted text>My name is mike and I am a Forman. I was baptized for the dead several times.
Your post makes me think I should send a formal request to be taken of the members list, if I am still on it.
Yeah, if you were on the Mormon list and you never asked to be taken off then you are still counted as a member. That sort of thing is not going to affect your life at all (we are talking about a fantasy organization, after all) but it irritates me that their numbers are artificially swollen.

“Question, Explore, Discover”

Since: Dec 11

Location hidden

#109568 Aug 4, 2013
Mike Duquette wrote:
<quoted text>oh I forgot the Holy Ghost interpreted it differently for you.
Well I did not say, but you guys sure claim to know. That is the difference. You guys keep insisting something that cannot be known. So when YAA keeps telling us to thank god for the laws, I say he is making claims that cannot be known. This is why we think you guys make all sorts of claims one cannot know.
It is a trend.
Bingo.

If a religious experience is by nature personal then it cannot be a foundation for any sort of rational belief. It certainly can't be used to do any real work in the world. If nobody is talking about the same god-damned thing it's a circus.
Yes and Amen

Richmond, KY

#109570 Aug 4, 2013
SistaNoneYaBiz wrote:
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Why education curriculums need to UPDATE themselves periodically to stay current.
New discoveries all the time that render parts of oldertheories as antiquated and dark age...especially in the field of evolution!
They do not want to, as any truth would point towards the Creator!
Yes and Amen

Richmond, KY

#109571 Aug 4, 2013
SistaNoneYaBiz wrote:
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YaA, you're falling "pray" to lump and labelDUHm collective stereotyping. That "labelduhm label" of "Christian" does NOT mean perfect with out fault for en masse stamping! Nor should it give license to those who claim it, to use it as some sort of leverage in partaking of NON-ethical behaviors either!!
All I have to say to them is...
Throw a dead dog in the backyard, wait 10,000 years for a lil dust to cover it, and see IF they match any fossils to date!
Only the lowest morons would believe that's how it happened!
Yes and Amen

Richmond, KY

#109572 Aug 4, 2013
SistaNoneYaBiz wrote:
<quoted text>
How far beyond the realms of their own habitats, do you think the tribe of Noah was able to write about seeing?
Are you suggesting, that when God told Noah, He was going to clean house...
He left a few stragglers???
Many civilizations recorded a Flood story, and Noah's kids
didn't sit around the house late in years, as they do now!
Yes and Amen

Richmond, KY

#109573 Aug 4, 2013
SistaNoneYaBiz wrote:
<quoted text>
How far beyond the realms of their own habitats, do you think the tribe of Noah was able to write about seeing?
I might also add Noah died at 950, so I'm sure His kids went many places!
Yes and Amen

Richmond, KY

#109574 Aug 4, 2013
Quantummist wrote:
<quoted text>
I know, but was the first thing that popped into my head... And it really does not matter to the argument... We have found only a fraction of a percent of the variations in life that flourished 200 million years of the age of dino's... We have given the over broad title of Dinosaur to a whole plethora of animals from that period when what roamed the planet were as varied, if not more so, than the variations of today... There were warm, lukewarm and cold bloodied, lumbering, walking, running, and flying variations... And they Slowly evolved because the environments were stable or slowly changing until a big rock smacked us 65 million years ago and the Environment drastically changed and most life wiped... This open new places with less big guys to eat the little guys and more, different foods to try and evolution goes into high gear until all the critters fill and fit the new norm... Just like Evolution predicts would happen and is happening as we speak....
I Love it when Bob Beckle says something truly right...
And two seconds later....
What IF your dating methods were bunk... what would that
do to your theories???
Don't give me that "Many ways of dating" stuff...
Be honest... What IF?
Yes and Amen

Richmond, KY

#109575 Aug 4, 2013
curious wrote:
<quoted text>
To those with idiotic tendencies,that would appear to be idiotic.
To those of us who have experienced the power of God and Christ it is the power of God and Christ.
The misguided opinions of unbelievers will in no way have an adverse impact on what we believe to be true...
Our faith remains strong and undeterred.
Our God lives.....
AMEN!
None so Blind, as those who refuse to see!
love

Glasgow, KY

#109576 Aug 4, 2013
concerned wrote:
The danger in teaching the Bible is that this book has the power to create faith even in an atheist. If it is allowed to be taught there is a strong possibility someone could be converted to Jesus Christ. Under the current world views is it possible to allow such a powerful tool for good to be taught in public schools and that before the young minds of the future?
Yes!
Yes and Amen

Richmond, KY

#109577 Aug 4, 2013
do whut wrote:
<quoted text>
Wonder why organisms didn't evolve into dinosaurs again?
A GREAT point Many of them will refute...
Don't confuse them with facts!
Yes and Amen

Richmond, KY

#109578 Aug 4, 2013
Mike Duquette wrote:
<quoted text>If you think what is claimed of Moses shows us their must be a god, you do not know what evidence is.
Moses was a tyrannical dictator who murdered his own people for not worshiping the god he claimed existed.
Now you might see this as evidence of what you should worship, but I have higher standards.
No, I do not "got to have faith".
What God told Moses...
Proves without a doubt, that God is God, and there is NO other!
What ever you want to follow, is Your choice, but with what God
did... you can only deny... you cannot refute!
God is Real... He Proved it!
Yes and Amen

Richmond, KY

#109580 Aug 4, 2013
Mike Duquette wrote:
<quoted text>So you wish to stay in delusion just because your beliefs lead you to conclude atheism has no hopes?
Thanks for pinpointing a major reason some are blinded by faith.
Wishful thinking does not make it so.
Ironic how you call what we believe as magic then cite demonic magic for why we believe what we do.
Yours is more Magic than ours!
You think a rock stewed in a sludge, and Poof...
single celled critters appeared!
Funny, that even your car needed a Builder, but Life came from a rock!
The ONLY hope is with Christ, but you will get what you asked for!
Yes and Amen

Richmond, KY

#109581 Aug 4, 2013
Mike Duquette wrote:
<quoted text>Why are there no fossilized dead human babies on Mt Everest? Your god supposedly murdered all the babies yet not a single one can be found on Mt Everest.
If you wish for others to stop killing babies, maybe you should stop worshiping king baby killer (god).
Have YOU Looked??
No... I didn't think so!
Yes... God cleaned house... wait for the next cleaning!
SistaNoneYaBiz

London, KY

#109582 Aug 4, 2013
Nox Aeterna wrote:
<quoted text>
These institutions of higher learning are all private schools, as they receive no public funding they are able to put whatever they like in their curriculum. Also, being that they are all Ivy League schools, it's unlikely they will have many students who blindly follow without question.
I've taken religious studies classes as well, they aren't faith based classes...they examine the religion, it's doctrine, and it's evolution. They are more akin to a history class than anything else, you study the influence of religion not the religion's holy books.
WRONG, WRONG, WRONG AGAIN!!! Here's JUST two examples of MANY.

Sidney E. Frank Endowed Scholarship Fund

Established in 2004, the Sidney E. Frank Endowed Scholarship Fund gives financial assistance to selected students at Brown University. The scholarship stemmed from a $100 million gift specifically for undergraduate students, and was the largest single gift in the school's history. The scholarship is only open to U.S. citizens and legal permanent residents. Unlike many scholarship programs, students cannot apply for this opportunity. Instead, students with the greatest financial need will automatically be selected to receive awards of varying amounts.

Barry M. Goldwater Scholarship

Students at Dartmouth College can take advantage of the Barry M. Goldwater Scholarship and Excellence in Education Program. It was created by Congress to honor the former Senator and serviceman. At least 300 selected recipients will get $7,500 to cover tuition, food, room and board each year. Full-time Dartmouth students can ask the school to nominate them for the award. They must, however, meet the following criteria: be U.S. citizens, be sophomores or juniors, have at least a B grade point average and be in the top-25th percentile of their class.

Need an EXAMPLE of a NON IVY League as well?

U of PENN

Graduate Program
Overview

The graduate program in Religious Studies at the University of Pennsylvania offers unique research opportunities for students to become first class scholars, teachers and expositors in the field. Our program is situated within one of the largest and finest research universities in the country, easily accessible to other research centers along the eastern seaboard.

Michael J. Murray Memorial Scholarship

The College of Liberal and Professional Studies (LPS) at the University of Pennsylvania awards merit scholarships to a part-time student. The Michael J. Murray Memorial Scholarship is one such program, and it was created to honor the late founder of the LPS Student Advisory Board. In addition to the application, an applicant must submit a letter of recommendation and a resume. The student must be in the undergraduate program and must demonstrate a commitment to continuing education, leadership qualities and community service experience.

And do we really need to mention ALL the standard FEDERAL AID provided to students attending these schools?
They ALL partake of FEDERAL dollars!!!!!!!!!! ALL of them.

http://universitysfs.harvard.edu/icb/icb.do...

GET A CLUE, or crawl back under that rock shelter of dark age Ignorance you obvioulsy dwell beneath-- because you couldn't be more WRONG.
SistaNoneYaBiz

London, KY

#109583 Aug 4, 2013
Nox Aeterna wrote:
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I find it ironic that the letter from Jefferson that you were so kind as to quote actually supports my point and not yours. Jefferson is stating in no uncertain terms that a wall should exist between religion and government. By extension that means anything that is funded by the government, such as public education.
Perhaps you're not aware that Jefferson was an atheist, but look into it. He actually rewrote the Bible to remove all references to the supernatural, it's called the Jefferson Bible, look into that as well. Your attempt to support your own position only weakened it, it would be like me trying to support the cause for gay marriage by quoting Fred Phelps.
It supports MY point NOW, just as much as it did when I(!) first presented it!

It was writ to secure the right of religious freedom of worship-EXEMPT from GOVERNMENT interference.

And ONLY an IDIOT would even presume to conclude Jefferson, as being any sot of IGNORANT atheist--ESPECIALLY after reading a letter such as this, where obviosly the man had RESPECT OF AND FOR, the varying beliefs of OTHERS.

Probably because he was FAR more intelligent than to USE the disgustingly IGNORANT excuse of "atheism" just to try exclude himself from having a code of CIVIL ETHICS of DECENCY AND Morality.

Get it yet?

Atheism is NO EXCUSE whatsoever, NONE at all...to think that anyone is "above" having to have Ethics, Decency AND Morality in a civilized society, and to ignorantly think otherwise is on par lvel as being nothing more than being of a criminal THUG Mentality, plain and simple!!
SistaNoneYaBiz

London, KY

#109584 Aug 4, 2013
ChromiuMan wrote:
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Yeah okay, everybody knows by now that you have a THO for Semitic history. So what?
Beats the ell out of living in some dark age, thug, commieTic, slobbering rabid dogs society.

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