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Bible study rules for public schools proposed

There are 180214 comments on the The Courier-Journal story from Feb 10, 2010, titled Bible study rules for public schools proposed. In it, The Courier-Journal reports that:

FRANKFORT, Ky. - The state would create rules for teaching about the Bible in public high schools under a bill filed Monday by three Democratic senators.

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Yes and Amen

Georgetown, KY

#109013 Jul 28, 2013
ChromiuMan wrote:
<quoted text>
It is "I think" and the rest of the post is inconsequential. You express opinions from the viewpoint of a delusional psychotic.
Tell me, YaA. Was the Earth flooded to a depth of 15 cubits over the mountains abt. 4,500 YA?
Fossils all over the World Proves the Flood happened!
The mountains were NOT that high, nor the seas that deep
before the flood!
Yet it doesn't comply with your narrative, so you ignore it!
Go figure!
God is real... He saved me!
Yes and Amen

Georgetown, KY

#109014 Jul 28, 2013
curious wrote:
<quoted text>
Just for the heck of it...
I went back to when SP was on this website. YOU were not posting on this website under Wich at that time...
Neither when Ummm was regurgitating nonsense.
We know you post in more than 1 nick.
So does Spektakals,Chromiuman,Iagio ,Dukettemtreebeard lol and all the other nicks you use.
A otro perro con ese hueso testa di cipolla
Evil is as Evil does!
Sad part is... I think they all might be individuals!
SP was nastier than witch, I do wonder about SP though....
I wonder if he got caught for torturing children in his
religion???
John

Richmond, KY

#109015 Jul 28, 2013
Yes and Amen wrote:
<quoted text>Evil is as Evil does!
Sad part is... I think they all might be individuals!
SP was nastier than witch, I do wonder about SP though....
I wonder if he got caught for torturing children in his
religion???
talk to pr
Lady
Yes and Amen

Georgetown, KY

#109016 Jul 28, 2013
curious wrote:
<quoted text>
Here,I have spaced it out for ya,,Now you have no excuses...Stop running away from reality...It will always catch up to ya
Inasmuch as you, Duquette and the other Atheists that post on this website are unable to understand that which is written in the Bible
which you misinterpret,quote out of context and as proven recently,make claims that are false,then you should not read the bible.
You that claim that we who believe are afflicted by delusions, in case you havent't heard, scientific studies confirm that nonbelievers are afflicted by a higher rate of mental problems than those who believe,are more likely to become addicted to drugs , alcohol and more likely to become suicidial.
There are those who will attest to the fact that their belief in God cured them from their drug and alcohol addiction.
There are those who will attest that there belief in God prevented them from committing suicide..
I have yet to hear anyone testify that by converting to Atheism they were able to combat their addictions or deal effectively with their mental or social problems.
What you guys need to do is, knowing that unbelief is causing such a problem within those in your community, try and figure out some way where you can be of assistance to these poor souls.
Right now, if an Atheist has a mental problem he can wait for it to go away,call on the government or turn to a church for assistance,while those who created the problem continue spreading their poison unabated...
It is no wonder that polls show that the overwhelming majority of Americans put Atheists at the bottom of the list when it comes to trustworthiness
Great post!
The deeper the hole, the Greater God's Glory in restoration!
Yes and Amen

Georgetown, KY

#109017 Jul 28, 2013
Mike Duquette wrote:
<quoted text>Ever heard of a psychologist? It is the non religious way to mental health. Some mental health problems are due to brain problems by birth. Nature does not make humans perfect.
I stopped drinking as an atheist, so your claim tells me you do not understand how to read and comprehend a study.
But for the sake of argument, lets say your claims are true. Does it mean the god you worship is true? Nope.
I do believe the last claim you made about how believers feel about non believers. So just what does this claim prove or mean to you? It tells me how believers are prejudging others as untrustworthy when they do not even know if they are trustworthy or not. This is called prejudice.
If you think this is a trait we should embrace, you only show me all the more why I should not heed your advice.
I see religion causing many problems, and we have addressed many of them here. I think it is responsible for much of the war in mans history, to top the list. It clearly was responsible for 9/11.
Yet none of these facts makes me lack trustworthiness in a religious person. You see, I judge trustworthiness depending upon how a person acts, not his general religious beliefs. I believe it is the more moral way to judge.
Psychology has NEVER... I REPETE NEVER cured anything... NO, they medicate, and still it does not help!
Christ cured more ills, than you can count, and it make you crazy to know that!
He saved me, and He can save you too!
curious

Winter Garden, FL

#109018 Jul 28, 2013
Yes and Amen wrote:
<quoted text>Evil is as Evil does!
Sad part is... I think they all might be individuals!
SP was nastier than witch, I do wonder about SP though....
I wonder if he got caught for torturing children in his
religion???
SP masqueraded as Jimmy Rants in the Harlan Forum. By his own admission he confessed to having 5 other monikers,including Applacha.
Right after SP disappeared from this website ,Applacha posted on this thread one time.
These other klutzes,Chromiuman,Viagio,Spek takal spectacles,LOL in a suit,Stuck in Lodi,Kittenfodder,The Witch,Nefalim,Umm,Dukette and whatever other nicks they use,are not all individuals.
I have alluded to this before and presented my evidence.
Now,they have changed their MO somewhat,but,there is more than one way to skin a cat.
Needless to say,the 2 or 3 Atheists responsible for all these monikers will deny the allegations,not surprising.
Anyhow,it was good hearing from you,
God Bless you .
Our God lives and Christ is Lord....
Yes and Amen

Georgetown, KY

#109019 Jul 28, 2013
curious wrote:
<quoted text>
Fools and idiots need correction....
All 4 of the Gospels,which includes Mark, mention the resurrection.
Because your minds have been dulled and you are unable to see, has led you and Viagio to make foolish, unintelligible and totally lacking in credibility, absurd statements.
That you continuously misinterpret what is written in the Bible is quite obvious by your inane postings.
Viagio is living proof that Atheists are afflicted with mental disorders.....Not only him,but the other Atheist poster that accompanies you in sharing 10 monikers.
Your abilities to distort,misquote and misrepresent what is written in the Bible is more than ample proof of your deteriorating mental conditions.
Ignorance is the Key to Atheism
"Willful" Ignorance is the Key to Atheism! Great post!
Yes and Amen

Georgetown, KY

#109020 Jul 28, 2013
Mike Duquette wrote:
<quoted text>The bible claims on the day Jesus was executed, the dead rose from the graves all over Jerusalem. Funny, not a word of this event was ever recorded in that day or even decade. It was not claimed in Mark. It was claimed several decades latter. Clearly not very many people believed the claim until centuries latter after Constantine made it the official religion of the Roman empire.
I would expect if Jesus came back from the dead and proved the doubters wrong, their would be a huge movement to embrace his claims immediately. But the slow growth of Christianity shows the story is more likely pure myth.
t wasn't the "Day" he was executed... read it again!
How stupid can you be

Georgetown, KY

#109021 Jul 28, 2013
Glad to be foreign wrote:
<quoted text>
Your theory on "christians" recovering more quickly from illness, or have a less stressful outlook on thinks in general is because they live in a state of fictional bliss and don't have a grasp of or refuse to accept life's realities. Another decscription is that Americans believe in this religion garbage because they are gullible and stupid.
Wrong on that point!
God showed up, and Saved me!
Get to know Him, you'll be glad you did!
Wrong again Sparky

Georgetown, KY

#109022 Jul 28, 2013
LOL in a suit wrote:
There is no god.
Yes there is!
Get to know Him... You'll be glad you did!
Wrong again Sparky

Georgetown, KY

#109023 Jul 28, 2013
Glad to be foreign wrote:
<quoted text>
The jesus stories.......are all myths or legends created from incidents that were generated by coincidence, then enhanced by embellishment, wishful thinking and believed in by the gullible and stupid.
I used to THINK that...
The He showed up, and saved me!
Good luck with your denial!

“I'll think about it.”

Since: Nov 07

central Florida

#109024 Jul 28, 2013
Yiago wrote:
Here's a bit from John Loftis, who I admire quite a bit. He studied with the Christian apologist William Laine Craig, then became an atheist and wrote "The Outsider Test for Faith" which I highly recommend all believers to read.
http://debunkingchristianity.blogspot.com/200...
There is a book by Daniel Everett called "Don't Sleep. There Are Snakes."

He was a Christian missionary to an Amazonian tribe which he was supposed to convert.
Instead THEY converted HIM.
He is now an atheist.

Fascinating story.
Yes and Amen

Georgetown, KY

#109025 Jul 28, 2013
Quantummist wrote:
<quoted text>
You actually don't know that life does not require oxygen do you, poor thing....
Did I say... Life need oxygen??? No... I did not!
What I stated is, He injected Evilution into the talk about the elements, and has NO proof Oxygen did NOT exist before life began!
It is ONLY the narrative of Evilution, and the false claims of
Evilutionists defending the fact that amino acids cannot generate in oxygen rich environments!
I say... God created Life out of His Words...
Evilution is only mans words!
Get to know Him... you'll be glad you did!
Yes and Amen

Georgetown, KY

#109026 Jul 28, 2013
Mike Duquette wrote:
<quoted text>Whether evolution is a lie or not, I still proved your claim as false. God believers do often believe in evolution. It is a fact that is easily provable, so quit making false claims to push your agenda.
In a roundabout way, you admitted I was correct.
Deal with actual facts, then we can have a reasonable debate.
proved NOTHING except you willingness to twist things the way you like!
Yes... there are Christians lead astray by your lies of evolution...
Just as Eve believed a lie!
Get it right!
AsherMan

Mascoutah, IL

#109027 Jul 28, 2013
I think a lot of so called Christians need to make sure they are living by the bible and that everyone in their house does the same before telling everyone else how to live their lives. How many Christians go to church with tattoos, nose piercings, children being conceived before marriage, buying lottery tickets, gambling, spreading gossip, living off welfare, food stamps, low income housing when they are able to work. I do believe there are good Christians who go to church and practice the bible teachings, but in today’s society, I think a lot of people who go to church need to look in the mirror and ask if they are living by the bible. Just remember kids pick up bad habits real quick from adults.
Yes and Amen

Georgetown, KY

#109028 Jul 28, 2013
Mike Duquette wrote:
<quoted text>I am well aware many believers of god fall prey to lies. This has been the root of the atheist pleas here. We feel the heart of the bible is but lies. You and I believe the Koran is full of lies.
The difference is, I do not use double standards.
No!
The difference is... You do not know God exists... I do!
Satan has fooled a lot of people, Muslims, and Atheists alike!

“I'll think about it.”

Since: Nov 07

central Florida

#109029 Jul 28, 2013
curious wrote:
<quoted text>
I have alluded to this before and presented my evidence.
"Evidence?" LOL!
Ummm, was that the "evidence" that one person posted shortly after another person...or that one person didn't post for a long time because the other one was posting.

Surprisingly even Yaa is willing to admit you are wrong.
(Could be that is the first smart thing I've ever heard him say.)
Yes and Amen

Georgetown, KY

#109030 Jul 28, 2013
curious wrote:
By Randal Rauser
(edited for space)The Making of an Atheist responds with the razor sharp edge of a Samurai sword. If the new atheists have specialized in sweeping assertions about the questionable rationality of Christians, Spiegel one-ups them with sweeping assertions about the morality of atheism. If the new atheists have berated Christians as a bit soft in the head, Spiegel returns the favor by leveling a charge of corruption in the soul.
Get it? The picture ain't pretty.
Atheism, says Spiegel, is not really an "intellectual movement". Rather, "It is little more than moral rebellion cloaked in academic regalia. The new atheists are blinded by their own sin." Atheism shirks an "objective assessment of evidence" because of "stubborn disobedience" and "willful rebellion". It is "the suppression of truth by wickedness, the cognitive consequence of immorality. In short, it is sin that is the mother of unbelief."
And that's just in the first few pages of the first chapter!
While Spiegel believes that, biblically speaking, atheist are fools, he stresses that this is not foolishness as mere ignorance. Atheists are not "simply obtuse or feeble-minded". Rather, they are in deep moral rebellion. He explains:
"When smart people go in irrational directions, it is time to look elsewhere than reasoning ability for an explanation. And Scripture gives us clear direction as to where we should look. Consider the psalmist's declaration that `the fool says in his heart,`There is no God'" (Psalm 14:1). The Hebrew term rendered `fool' here denotes a person who is `morally deficient.' And elsewhere in the Old Testament Wisdom Literature we learn of various symptoms of this moral deficiency. The book of Proverbs says `a fool finds no pleasure in understanding'(Proverbs 18:2), that `fools despise wisdom and discipline'(Proverbs 1:7), that `a fool finds pleasure in evil conduct'(Proverbs 10:23) and is `hotheaded and reckless'(Proverbs 14:16)." "It is not intelligence they lack so much as self-control and the right values."
Spiegel provides other scriptures to support his provocative thesis. For instance, he observes of Ephesians 4:17-19: "The root of the problem, apparently, is not a lack of intelligence but rather a hardness of heart that is itself caused by immoral behavior." He cites John 3:19-21, "men loved darkness instead of light because their deeds were evil", and then observes:
"Note also Jesus' point that evildoers do not simply ignore or reject the light but actually `hate' it. If this is so, then we should expect some atheists to display a certain amount of bitterness and even rage toward the idea of God. And, of course, this is just what we find among many atheists, especially the leaders of the new atheism."
But the most important passage for Spiegel's provocative thesis is Romans 1:18-21:
18 The wrath of God is being revealed from heaven against all the godlessness and wickedness of people, who suppress the truth by their wickedness, 19 since what may be known about God is plain to them, because God has made it plain to them. 20 For since the creation of the world God's invisible qualities--his eternal power and divine nature--have been clearly seen, being understood from what has been made, so that people are without excuse.
21 For although they knew God, they neither glorified him as God nor gave thanks to him, but their thinking became futile and their foolish hearts were darkened.
After quoting Romans 1 Spiegel concludes:
"In this passage Paul makes clear that the problem with those who don't believe in God is not lack of evidence. On the contrary, God has made His existence and attributes so `plain' and `clearly seen' from creation that belief is inexcusable. He also explains how, in spite of this, some reject the truth, specifically through immoral behavior."
Great posts!
Wrong again Sparky

Georgetown, KY

#109031 Jul 28, 2013
Mike Duquette wrote:
<quoted text>David, the rootless dictator who sent his best friend to the front lines of war to die in order to hide the pregnancy he caused to his best friends wife, and then ultimately married her, and had children that are claimed to be the lineage to Jesus?
And we should listen to his advice, why? The man had motive to lie. He had motive to claim to know the mind of god.
I see king David as the moral equivalency of Saddam Hussein.
Now you might put such dictators on a pedestal, but I will not.
Uriah wasn't David's best friend!
I wish you'd stop twisting the Bible, I Thought you said you've read it!
That too must be a lie!
Wrong again Sparky

Georgetown, KY

#109032 Jul 28, 2013
Mike Duquette wrote:
<quoted text>So you believe none of this has evidence and is pure conjecture? So you wish for the science books that say this to be taken out of schools?
And you wish for the bible which is devoid of evidence to be put in its place?
Did I say "The Bible had to be put in schools?"
No, they will be in there anyway!
But I do say take the lies out of school, and
that is exactly what Evilution is!

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