Bible study rules for public schools proposed

Feb 10, 2010 Full story: The Courier-Journal 131,887

FRANKFORT, Ky. - The state would create rules for teaching about the Bible in public high schools under a bill filed Monday by three Democratic senators.

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curious

Ocoee, FL

#108474 Jul 19, 2013
chance8 wrote:
<quoted text>
<--- because by your rebuttal I can't really tell --->
I was once Agnostic.I did not know if God existed,nor did I care.
If God did exist,I did not want him getting involved in my life,as I felt very capable of handling my affairs without his intervention.
There came a point in my life where I was confronted with a series of problems for which I could not find a solution.
These problems started me in a search for God..
Over a period of time,God revealed himself,as he promised in his word...
I became a believer.
I believe In God,I believe Jesus was sent by God and I believe in the Holy Spirit.
My beliefs are not based on wishful thinking,fear of death,fear of punishment,delusions or any of the other nonsensical reasons attributed by nonbelievers.

My beliefs are based on my actual experiences as I sought God.
They are real,as only I can attest....
Hope this clears it up for you
curious

Ocoee, FL

#108475 Jul 19, 2013
Quantummist wrote:
<quoted text>
Because she understood it, you didn't.... But then again it's tough for a 3rd grader to understand how a nuclear reactor works also....
Fortunately,I have not regressed mentally to the stage where the illogical makes sense.
That nothing can create something out of nothing does not compute in my world.....

It's like,what came first,the chicken or the egg.
As you know,Scientists claim the chicken came first,as only a chicken is able to produce a chicken egg.
Ok. Where did the chicken come from?
Who created the chicken?

Since: Aug 10

Location hidden

#108476 Jul 19, 2013
curious wrote:
<quoted text>
Fortunately,I have not regressed mentally to the stage where the illogical makes sense.
That nothing can create something out of nothing does not compute in my world.....
Where did your god come from?
curious

Ocoee, FL

#108477 Jul 19, 2013
Skeptical Spectacles wrote:
<quoted text>
Where did your god come from?
It is my understanding that he always was,is and always will be.
Why do you ask?

Since: Jul 13

Location hidden

#108481 Jul 19, 2013
curious wrote:
<quoted text>
It is my understanding that he always was,is and always will be.
Why do you ask?
If there is a creator being then it would have to have no beginning and no end; otherwise it couldn't make the claims that the christian bible makes.

I can't get figured out which is easier to concieve. A being that has and always will be who created everything...... or........
and I know that there is a scientific jargon for this but basically; there was nothing and the nothing became something and that something became something else.

Both are simple concepts that we can twist into extremely difficult and elaborate happenings but how does logic play into either or neither of them?

“Speaker of Mountain Wisdom....”

Since: Jan 10

Somerset, KY

#108482 Jul 19, 2013
curious wrote:
<quoted text>
Fortunately,I have not regressed mentally to the stage where the illogical makes sense.
That nothing can create something out of nothing does not compute in my world.....
It's like,what came first,the chicken or the egg.
As you know,Scientists claim the chicken came first,as only a chicken is able to produce a chicken egg.
Ok. Where did the chicken come from?
Who created the chicken?
We already played the chicken and egg game... it's not regression to not have the intellectual ability to understand complex thoughts.... There is another term for it....

Since: Feb 12

Roseville, CA

#108484 Jul 19, 2013
do whut wrote:
<quoted text>
I agree. That's why I think it is difficult to deny the Holy Ghost. You have to have full knowledge of Him before you can deny Him.
I misunderstood what you meant in previous post, sorry, now to move on to another area since we agree on the sin against the Holy Spirit.

Do all baptized members of LDS church have full knowledge of God? Do you claim to have full Knowledge of God?

[Speaking in Tongues today]

You said that you believe the gift of speaking in tongues exist today.

What do you think was the purpose of speaking in tongues was used for after Jesus death?

Does anyone in your LDS church speak in tongues today? If so, why would you believe it is real and not fake?

What purpose would speaking in tongues be used for in this modern age?

I don't think there would be any reason for it today.

Since: Aug 10

Location hidden

#108485 Jul 19, 2013
Yiago wrote:
<quoted text>That's fine, I don't expect my opinion will amount to much for you.

I don't recall ever saying Jesus was a fraud. With figures so obscure and ancient it is really hard to know much about their intentions. We have scant evidence of his existence, let alone his motivations. If he was real then I think it is more plausible to say that he was genuine in his own beliefs and teachings. I'd say the magic attributed to him is mostly added later (read the gospels in the order in which they were actually written and you can see the magic getting more and more fantastical, the claims more and more elaborate...that's how legends grow).

But I can say those things. You can't. If your starting point is "I believe" then from that you can't get to the truth. You have to start with "I want to know". Then you can follow the evidence. And evidence is the clearest path to truth.
He taught that He was the Son of God. This is why He was killed. So if you don't believe He was the Son of God, then you are calling Him a fraud.

Since: Aug 10

Location hidden

#108486 Jul 19, 2013
Spaceship earth wrote:
<quoted text>I misunderstood what you meant in previous post, sorry, now to move on to another area since we agree on the sin against the Holy Spirit.

Do all baptized members of LDS church have full knowledge of God? Do you claim to have full Knowledge of God?

[Speaking in Tongues today]

You said that you believe the gift of speaking in tongues exist today.

What do you think was the purpose of speaking in tongues was used for after Jesus death?

Does anyone in your LDS church speak in tongues today? If so, why would you believe it is real and not fake?

What purpose would speaking in tongues be used for in this modern age?

I don't think there would be any reason for it today.
I do not think that there is a human alive that understands everything about God or the way He thinks. But we are held accountable for the knowledge that we do have. I have learned of many commandments from God and I must, therefore, do my best to obey them, or I would be knowingly sinning.

I believe that the purpose of the gift of tongues is to teach the gospel to others. At the Pentecost I think it was more to prove to people the power of God. This is not its main purpose today.
I believe it is more manifest in being able to learn an entirely different language in a matter of a couple of weeks, to travel to the country that speaks this language and be fully immersed, and be able to teach the gospel of Jesus Christ in their native language.

Since: Feb 12

Roseville, CA

#108487 Jul 19, 2013
do whut wrote:
<quoted text>
He taught that He was the Son of God. This is why He was killed. So if you don't believe He was the Son of God, then you are calling Him a fraud.
The religion of Judasim beleive Jesus is a fraud and LDS hold them high esteem and respected in the Mormon faith system.

Why would you treat one person in a different light than Judasim that also believe that Jesus is a fraud? Is God now partial?

“There is no god.”

Since: Jan 12

USA

#108488 Jul 19, 2013
http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/headlines/2013/07...

HaHaHa....You reap what you sow. Lmfao tooooo f-ing funny.

“There is no god.”

Since: Jan 12

USA

#108489 Jul 19, 2013
Hiya Spaceship good to see you brother.

Lol, god is now what it always has been a delusion.

“Speaker of Mountain Wisdom....”

Since: Jan 10

Somerset, KY

#108490 Jul 19, 2013
chance8 wrote:
<quoted text>
If there is a creator being then it would have to have no beginning and no end; otherwise it couldn't make the claims that the christian bible makes.
I can't get figured out which is easier to concieve. A being that has and always will be who created everything...... or........
and I know that there is a scientific jargon for this but basically; there was nothing and the nothing became something and that something became something else.
Both are simple concepts that we can twist into extremely difficult and elaborate happenings but how does logic play into either or neither of them?
Let me try to explain what you have gotten wrong... No one in Science has ever said there was Nothing that became something... There is actually no such thing as "Nothing" take away all physical matter and you still have Energy... Energy exists between Everything and is something even if No Thing exists within it.... So Matter converted From Something and that Something was a Quanta of Energy even if there was No Things....

“There is no god.”

Since: Jan 12

USA

#108491 Jul 19, 2013
Brian_G wrote:
<quoted text> Sucks to be wrong, like not having a dad to tell you if you whoop somebody you might get shot.
I am glad you're a christian such ignorance and bigotry as yours needs a support group of like minded idiots.

“There is no god.”

Since: Jan 12

USA

#108492 Jul 19, 2013
Brian_G wrote:
<quoted text>There's that too.
Lesson from Tray: when bouncing an old man's head off the street, expect to get shot. Just saying.
I see now, you are a member of that christian group the kkk. You follow david dukes rules not turn the other cheek like jesus said all good little christians should do. Burn a cross for jesus and shoot a black man, you are a bigot and a hypocrite, wait, of course you are you're a christian.

“There is no god.”

Since: Jan 12

USA

#108493 Jul 19, 2013
Just read the discussion on America being based on christian principles and I agree with the religies.

Indigenous people(native Americans) nearly wiped out for being ungodly savages.

Salem witch trials.

Slavery.

At least 99 wars.

Equal rights denied to gays.

Equal rights denied to women.

Religious beliefs forced upon every American.

Yes, christian principles, christian hatred, christian bigotry, christian hypocrisy and christian ignorance are seen through out Americas history. Time to change, the god delusion is not working.
curious

Ocoee, FL

#108494 Jul 19, 2013
chance8 wrote:
<quoted text>
If there is a creator being then it would have to have no beginning and no end; otherwise it couldn't make the claims that the christian bible makes.
I can't get figured out which is easier to concieve. A being that has and always will be who created everything...... or........
and I know that there is a scientific jargon for this but basically; there was nothing and the nothing became something and that something became something else.
Both are simple concepts that we can twist into extremely difficult and elaborate happenings but how does logic play into either or neither of them?
My limited understanding cannot fathom how nothing can create something out of nothing.
To me,that is illogical and nonsensical.
Neither am I able to comprehend or explain how something"God" can have always existed.
But,the WORD OF GOD says" If you diligently seek me,you will find me.
Reluctantly,but,wanting to find out for myself,I tested God's word...
Through a series of events that occurred in my life,it became evident to me that God is real,and will reveal himself to those who seek him,as he promised.
I was not coerced,not delusional,brainwashed,did not hear voices,was not afraid of death,was not looking for a reward,eternal life or any such thing..
The events that occured in my life convinced me that someone was listening and responding to my prayers..
Thereby,my Faith....
To those who do not believe,my faith is nonsense.
To me,knowing what I experienced to be real,gives a totally different meaning to my life....

Since: Feb 12

Roseville, CA

#108495 Jul 19, 2013
LOL in a suit wrote:
Hiya Spaceship good to see you brother.
Lol, god is now what it always has been a delusion.
Hi LOL. Nice to see you also.
Lou Stool

Columbia, KY

#108496 Jul 19, 2013
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Sums it up!

Since: Feb 12

Roseville, CA

#108498 Jul 19, 2013
do whut wrote:
<quoted text>
I do not think that there is a human alive that understands everything about God or the way He thinks. But we are held accountable for the knowledge that we do have. I have learned of many commandments from God and I must, therefore, do my best to obey them, or I would be knowingly sinning.
I believe that the purpose of the gift of tongues is to teach the gospel to others. At the Pentecost I think it was more to prove to people the power of God. This is not its main purpose today.
I believe it is more manifest in being able to learn an entirely different language in a matter of a couple of weeks, to travel to the country that speaks this language and be fully immersed, and be able to teach the gospel of Jesus Christ in their native language.
I read also that the purpose of the gift was to have the apostles teach in other languages.

I read the bible shows apostles was given the gift of tongues had the ability to speak many different tongues instantly, rather than two weeks of missoniary training for just one.

That said, it is impressive to learn a language as fast as two weeks.

I read this on a link covering the MTC. Not trying to split hairs here, but looks like many already had prior training in a language before attending MTC.

"In many cases, missionaries who already speak the language of their assigned area are sent to their mission after just three weeks."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Missionary_Train...

I know you may believe your LDS students may have the gift of tongues, I would have to agree if they can learn it in two weeks of study and practice.

All due respect it is not a gift of tongues shown in the bible.

p.s. Glossolalia is fake I believe and used to con people and build a following.

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