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Bible study rules for public schools proposed

There are 170565 comments on the The Courier-Journal story from Feb 10, 2010, titled Bible study rules for public schools proposed. In it, The Courier-Journal reports that:

FRANKFORT, Ky. - The state would create rules for teaching about the Bible in public high schools under a bill filed Monday by three Democratic senators.

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Lamoni, IA

#108552 Jul 20, 2013
CivilLawandEthics wrote:
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Unless some thug decides to jump anyone for just exercising their civil rights.
In which case all (especially female senior citizens) in Fla should be allowed arms when out keeping an eye out on their neighborhoods.
I think a good case can be made for letting women have guns and not men, or at least I thought so until I heard the interview with that juror in shadows on cNN. I would not trust her with a gun, any more than her hero "George" as she called him. Were you aware that at the beginining of the trial, during jury selection, the judge refused to remove her from the jury for cause, despite the fact that this woman said that she did not know much about the case, but had heard that there were "riots" about it? She was the wife of a lawyer, and of course she had heard about it. I think she lied to get on the jury.
The judge should never have let her on the jury after she used the word "riots" to describe the peaceful demonstrations among those who felt zimmerman should be charged and put on trial. It showed her ignorance and bias that she called peaceful demonstrations "riots." I am willing to bet she is a white racist, though maybe she does not acknowledge it to herself. At least she showed by her comments on CNN that she was a person who identified entirely with George, and believed his story (or whatever combination of his multiple versions best served his case).
I certainly think he lied.
The stupid prosecutors - especially the woman - charged a black woman for firing a gun into a ceiling, as a warning shot when her abusive black husband was threatening her. She got a 12 minute jury deliberation and a 20 year sentence.
It is obvious to me that she should be pardoned. I hope it will happen. Florida needs to elect CC as Governor again and get rid of Scott.
They also need to get rid of the prosecutor - MS. Cory - who was involved in both cases.
In my view there is not enough evidence for the US government to charge Z with a hate crime yet. There would have to be more indications of a pattern of racism by him, and even then the racism was the reason for the following of TM. maybe not for the actual shooting if Z had injuries. Apparently the only charge possible is for a hate crime, not other civil rights law violations. And hate crimes are difficult to prove.
I think charges should be made against the police in that town and against the judge for misconduct however.
Most important is to get all who oppose stand your ground to register to vote, and vote against Scott and GOP members of the legislature, and against democratic legislators who do not agree to a modification in the law.
The first test of the good sense of those who oppose stand your ground laws, and the horrid Supreme Court decision throwing out a key provision of the Voting Rights act, is the election in Virginia this year. Black, brown, and intelligent white voters need to register and vote for the democratic candidates for Governor, Lt. Governor, and AG in Va, and for the state legislature. Then the voters need to make the officials act properly. I am no fan of Terry McAuliffe, but the gOP candidates are terrible, as is the current Governor, who is corrupt and being outed for it. Too bad they can't kick him out now and get the GOP halfway decent current LT. Governor as Governor. The Current AG and GOP Gov candidate was also a bit corrupt, but has escaped charges.
Then in 2014, a big coalition needs to be sure all its supporters are registered, and then protect their rights to vote from gOP tricks to prevent it. I used to have liberal and moderate gOP friends, even public officials and party officials. Now the ultra rightwing racists control the party. Look at Wyoming! Liz Cheney is evil like her father, and ambitious.

“I was born a poor, black child”

Since: Jan 07

that weren't no easy thing

#108553 Jul 20, 2013
Guys, I had a nightmare last night that I was back in that cult....singing songs of doom, shaking hands with a preacher who is glorifying evil, imagining children falling off a ledge into a bottomless pit of fire and pain...

Thank god, jesus, and the holy cow that I have this thread to visit and be reminded that life is more than hate, judgement, and sorrow.

“See how you are?”

Since: Jul 12

Earth

#108554 Jul 20, 2013
treebeard wrote:
Guys, I had a nightmare last night that I was back in that cult....singing songs of doom, shaking hands with a preacher who is glorifying evil, imagining children falling off a ledge into a bottomless pit of fire and pain...
Thank god, jesus, and the holy cow that I have this thread to visit and be reminded that life is more than hate, judgement, and sorrow.
Well, as has been amply demonstrated in multiple threads and myriads of cultist posts - if you were delusional you'd be incapable of knowing any better, anyway.

“Question, Explore, Discover”

Since: Dec 11

Location hidden

#108555 Jul 20, 2013
Yes and Amen wrote:
<quoted text>Notice how Fox news watchers are smarter about things, and the rest are clueless???
No. I can honestly say that I have never noticed that.

“Question, Explore, Discover”

Since: Dec 11

Location hidden

#108556 Jul 20, 2013
CivilLawandEthics wrote:
<quoted text>
Unless some thug decides to jump anyone for just exercising their civil rights.
In which case all (especially female senior citizens) in Fla should be allowed arms when out keeping an eye out on their neighborhoods.
Right. So a thug jumps someone "for exercising their civil rights" and the old lady then turns into Chow Yun Fat from a John Woo flick, brandishing twin 9 millimeters and doing theatrical gun tricks.

Or...the thug takes the purse, runs away, and now has a gun.

“Question, Explore, Discover”

Since: Dec 11

Location hidden

#108557 Jul 20, 2013
Spaceship earth wrote:
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That is amazing to learn in 4 weeks. Do you think Glossolalia is real or fake?
Fake.

Even Dan Barker, the guy from the Freedom From Religion Foundation, used to speak in tongues. He even says that he can still do it and it is something he enjoys.

It's very similar to when a child will act goofy when playing. My kid does it sometimes. He just goes nuts and starts making all kind of weird noises. Of course he doesn't then claim it was jesus...

“Question, Explore, Discover”

Since: Dec 11

Location hidden

#108558 Jul 20, 2013
do whut wrote:
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Like I said, the Pentecostal version of the gift of tongues I think was to demonstrate the power of God to a large group of people. I don't see why this would be necessary now. And it certainly wouldn't have a place in a worship service with a group of people that already believe.
Of course some missionaries would have prior language experience in some cases. Kids start learning Spanish in kindergarten now. But I do have to say that a friend of mine learned Mandarin Chinese in under 4 weeks before his mission and he was not a good student in high school. I was impressed.
You probably meant to type "learned *some* Mandarin Chinese". And yeah, that's impressive.

Some people are talented with languages. All brains are different. Kids are especially good at it. Adults, not so much.

Speaking in tongues is weird. That crazy woman from the documentary Jesus Camp does it. It's really easy to see how fake it is when you witness it. If you let yourself, you can do it too just by going into a sort of trance.

“See how you are?”

Since: Jul 12

Earth

#108559 Jul 20, 2013
Yiago wrote:
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No. I can honestly say that I have never noticed that.
Strangely, I seem to recall a study that proves exactly the opposite. Okay, poorly worded. Since it's YaA's proposition, it isn't strange at all.

“I was born a poor, black child”

Since: Jan 07

that weren't no easy thing

#108560 Jul 20, 2013
ChromiuMan wrote:
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Well, as has been amply demonstrated in multiple threads and myriads of cultist posts - if you were delusional you'd be incapable of knowing any better, anyway.
It's absolutely frightening to be reminded of the person I once was. I am glad at least that once I became a mother and was responsible for someone else, I was able to recognize it as a harmful teaching. That baby boy saved my life in more ways than one.
Sometimes, I feel I could have been pretty smart cat had my youth been filled with knowledge rather than .....

“Question, Explore, Discover”

Since: Dec 11

Location hidden

#108561 Jul 20, 2013
do whut wrote:
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I follow you. You aren't following me. I didn't mention the miracles. I only mentioned that He taught that He was the Son of God, the messiah, the savior of the world and that only through Him could anyone return to the Father. Since you don't believe in God, then you do not believe these statements. So either you are calling Jesus a fraud or crazy.
So let me follow your logic. If I tell you something that isn't true I'm either a) lying or b) crazy.

Do you not have room in your equation for other options? For example, what if Jesus didn't say anything about magic or being the son of god? Correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't remember Mark mentioning the whole "son of god" thing. If not, and since it was the earliest text, that means it is likely that the magical stuff was added later, like I said.

That would mean Jesus might have been sane and might have simply said things that were on par with a modern hippie. Loopy, but not fraudulent. And not necessarily crazy.

Since: Feb 12

Rancho Cordova, CA

#108562 Jul 20, 2013
do whut wrote:
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No
If LDS members are drafted in the military and called to go to war, are LDS o.k. with killing other LDS members that serve in the enemy countries that we might go to war with?

When LDS members go to war, who are they serving, God or man?

“See how you are?”

Since: Jul 12

Earth

#108563 Jul 20, 2013
Yiago wrote:
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You probably meant to type "learned *some* Mandarin Chinese". And yeah, that's impressive.
Some people are talented with languages. All brains are different. Kids are especially good at it. Adults, not so much.
Speaking in tongues is weird. That crazy woman from the documentary Jesus Camp does it. It's really easy to see how fake it is when you witness it. If you let yourself, you can do it too just by going into a sort of trance.
Okay, let me try it. First go into a mindless trance then type whatever incomprehensible gibberish comes out? Ommmm....

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Yup, if you shut down cognitive reasoning, glossolalia is possible.

Since: Feb 12

Rancho Cordova, CA

#108564 Jul 20, 2013
ChromiuMan wrote:
<quoted text>
Okay, let me try it. First go into a mindless trance then type whatever incomprehensible gibberish comes out? Ommmm....
unlesssomethugdecidestojumpany oneforjustexercisingtheircivil rightsinwhichcaseallespecially femaleseniorcitizensinflashoul dbeallowedarmswhenoutkeepingan eyeoutontheirneighborhoods <breath> forthosethatdonotbelieveinjesu schristasthesonofgodithinkofas unfortunatethattheyhaventhadth esameexperiencesthatihavehadth atshowedmethatjesusisthechrist thatstatuscouldchangeatanytime <breath> hahahahadoyouthinkallofuscanno tunderstandcomplexthoughtshowa boutthemicrobiologiststhathave turnedfromatheismtoidbelievers idsaythey understandmorethanyougodsreals nuggleuptothatfactyouwillbegla dyoudid
Yup, if you shut down cognitive reasoning, glossolalia is possible.
Fleecing the flock.

1 Corinthians 14:22
"Thus tongues are a sign not for believers but for unbelievers."

Like shooting fish in a barrel with this technology.
CivilLawandEthic s

Manchester, KY

#108565 Jul 20, 2013
ChromiuMan wrote:
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Who is "they"? The main stream media? The ANCF? The Illuminati and the Trilateral Commission? Yer getting as nutty as YaA, lady.
Why the difference in this case, versus the other one posted?

Media mass frenzy.

(The "illumanati"? Now that's getting a little nutty!)
ProvenScience

Manchester, KY

#108566 Jul 20, 2013
ChromiuMan wrote:
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Of course, the other consideration is that accounts written decades and centuries later should >never be assumed< to coincide with the actual events, especially when there are certain and definite agendas backing those writers. Wouldn't you agree?
http://www.nbcnews.com/science/3-000-year-old...

But artifacts DO make things a little more interesting!
CivilLandEthics

Manchester, KY

#108567 Jul 20, 2013
Yiago wrote:
<quoted text>
Right. So a thug jumps someone "for exercising their civil rights" and the old lady then turns into Chow Yun Fat from a John Woo flick, brandishing twin 9 millimeters and doing theatrical gun tricks.
Or...the thug takes the purse, runs away, and now has a gun.
Why would anyone carry a purse on an evening neighborhood watch walk?

“I'll think about it.”

Since: Nov 07

central Florida

#108569 Jul 20, 2013
Yes and Amen wrote:
<quoted text>56,000,000 dead Babies just for one!
Was not talking to you.
If you are going to join a conversation, at least try to see what is being discussed before you spout your gibberish.

“I'll think about it.”

Since: Nov 07

central Florida

#108570 Jul 20, 2013
Yes and Amen wrote:
<quoted text>No comparison... Christians do not cut off your heads, or smash queers cinder blocks... what a tard!
Again, I was not addressing this question to you.
I see you have returned to disgusting name calling.
Figures.

“I'll think about it.”

Since: Nov 07

central Florida

#108571 Jul 20, 2013
Yes and Amen wrote:
<quoted text>Interesting....
Everyone will know the answer to that...
But I wonder... ALL the NDE's, and stories of God, n Heaven...
Why take chances? Even if God didn't show up, and save me...
I think I'd error on the side cautiousness!
Yep. That is the answer of a frightened, little man.
curious

Winter Garden, FL

#108572 Jul 20, 2013
Yiago wrote:
<quoted text>
So let me follow your logic. If I tell you something that isn't true I'm either a) lying or b) crazy.
Do you not have room in your equation for other options? For example, what if Jesus didn't say anything about magic or being the son of god? Correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't remember Mark mentioning the whole "son of god" thing. If not, and since it was the earliest text, that means it is likely that the magical stuff was added later, like I said.
That would mean Jesus might have been sane and might have simply said things that were on par with a modern hippie. Loopy, but not fraudulent. And not necessarily crazy.
Yiago wrote
For example, what if Jesus didn't say anything about magic or being the son of god? Correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't remember Mark mentioning the whole "son of god" thing. If not, and since it was the earliest text, that means it is likely that the magical stuff was added later, like I said.
Mark 1:1
King James Version (KJV)

1 The beginning of the gospel of Jesus Christ, the Son of God;

Mark 1:10-11
New International Version (NIV)

10 Just as Jesus was coming up out of the water, he saw heaven being torn open and the Spirit descending on him like a dove. 11 And a voice came from heaven:“You are my Son, whom I love; with you I am well pleased.”

Mark 13:32 (King James Version)- Bible Gateway

But of that day and that hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels which are in heaven, neither the Son, but the Father.

Mark 14:36
King James Version (KJV)

36 And he said, Abba, Father, all things are possible unto thee; take away this cup from me: nevertheless not what I will, but what thou wilt.

Guess that eliminates your nonsensical theory
BTW Talking about sanity and mental issues..
Seems that those with greater mental issues are those who do not believe in Christ or God...As you well know

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