Bible study rules for public schools proposed

Feb 10, 2010 Full story: The Courier-Journal 135,047

FRANKFORT, Ky. - The state would create rules for teaching about the Bible in public high schools under a bill filed Monday by three Democratic senators.

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White Lightening

Gardena, CA

#108441 Jul 18, 2013
Carl Sagan wrote:
<quoted text>
The media hasn't sensationalized it.
sagan was an athiest through out his life although the closer he got to death he started to speak as though he might be wondering if there really was a god. i've never understood why it's so important to some people that there is no god.

“I'll think about it.”

Since: Nov 07

central Florida

#108442 Jul 18, 2013
Quantummist wrote:
<quoted text>
Yes... there is every probability that we could run into several forms of life and not be able to recognize it in the slightest...
If or when that happens, it will be a sad commentary on that "crown of creation" called humanity.

“I'll think about it.”

Since: Nov 07

central Florida

#108443 Jul 18, 2013
White Lightening wrote:
<quoted text>
sagan was an athiest through out his life although the closer he got to death he started to speak as though he might be wondering if there really was a god. i've never understood why it's so important to some people that there is no god.
You have it wrong. It is not important "that there is no god."
As we have stated over and over on this forum, anyone can believe in any nonsense they want to AS LONG AS THEY DON'T INSIST THAT OTHERS BELIEVE ALSO AND ATTEMPT TO ENACT LAWS BASED ON THEIR BELIEFS THAT AFFECT EVERYONE.

A country which runs on religious laws is a theocracy.
Do you want to live in a country like that?
I don't.
trish

Point Pleasant, WV

#108444 Jul 18, 2013
Amen

“Speaker of Mountain Wisdom....”

Since: Jan 10

Somerset, KY

#108445 Jul 18, 2013
ChromiuMan wrote:
<quoted text>
Nope, not in the 'slightest'.
At approximately 7:09 PM, Zimmerman called the Sanford police non-emergency number to report what he considered a suspicious person in the Twin Lakes community. Zimmerman stated, "We've had some break-ins in my neighborhood, and there's a real suspicious guy." (SPOTTED) He described an unknown male "just walking around looking about" in the rain and said, "This guy looks like he is up to no good or he is on drugs or something." Zimmerman reported that the person had his hand in his waistband and was walking around looking at homes. On the recording, Zimmerman is heard saying, "these assholes, they always get away." (PROFILED)
About two minutes into the call, Zimmerman said, "he's running." The dispatcher asked, "He's running? Which way is he running?" The sound of a car door chime is heard, indicating Zimmerman opened his car door. Zimmerman followed Martin,(CHASED) eventually losing sight of him.(LOST) The dispatcher asked Zimmerman if he was following him. When Zimmerman answered, "yeah," the dispatcher said, "We don't need you to do that." Zimmerman responded, "Okay." Zimmerman asked that police call him upon their arrival so he could provide his location. Zimmerman ended the call at 7:15 p.m.
After Zimmerman ended his call with police,(FOUND) a violent encounter took place between Martin and Zimmerman,(CONFRONTED) which ended when Zimmerman fatally shot Martin 70 yards (64 m) from the rear door of the townhouse where Martin was staying.
Then you should have listened a bit closer to the actual 911 tapes where he mention the suspect standing in the rain in a yard staring at a house, as he drove around the suspect saw him and walked off... On a raining night ... So Yep... that is a Suspicious Person that Any Neighborhood Watch Should keep and eye on and follow until they see that they are not heading through the window of the next house down...

The Evidence does not indicate Who Confront Who... The Only testimony is Zimmerman that he was Jumped on the way back to his truck and Map of the paths Zimmerman stats e took and the location of the Confrontation backs up Zimmerman version... The side walk that turns toward Martins fathers home was where Zimmermans says he Stopped following and walked straight ahead as Martin turned toward the house... Zimmerman walked to the end of the side walk and turned to head back to his truck which would have taken several moments.. If martin would have continued home he would have been there in 2 minutes... But it was four minutes after last OK that the Confrontation took place... The Evidence says that after Zimmerman stopped following and walked of Martin turned around and went to the Corner where the two side walks cross and laid in wait until Zimmerman passed back by the spot 4 minutes after last contact with the cops... Could Zimmerman be lying...sure... But the time line, location of conflict, injuries bolster his story...

If my neighborhood watch guys see Anyone they do not recognize I would hope they would follow them and do as told by the police contacts at the meeting which is always if you see Anything one Anyone suspicious call the police and keep them in sight... Zimmerman did absolutely Nothing illegal up until the moment of Contact from All Evidence presented in court.. There is No Evidence Zimmerman initiated that contact...
White Lightening

Gardena, CA

#108446 Jul 18, 2013
aWitchintheWoods wrote:
<quoted text>
You have it wrong. It is not important "that there is no god."
As we have stated over and over on this forum, anyone can believe in any nonsense they want to AS LONG AS THEY DON'T INSIST THAT OTHERS BELIEVE ALSO AND ATTEMPT TO ENACT LAWS BASED ON THEIR BELIEFS THAT AFFECT EVERYONE.
A country which runs on religious laws is a theocracy.
Do you want to live in a country like that?
I don't.
the usa is not run according to religion which gets to the separation of church and state. i am comfortable with a country where the citizens believe in something beyond them.

“I'll think about it.”

Since: Nov 07

central Florida

#108447 Jul 18, 2013
White Lightening wrote:
<quoted text>
the usa is not run according to religion which gets to the separation of church and state. i am comfortable with a country where the citizens believe in something beyond them.
So you would be uncomfortable in a country of atheists?
If so, why?
HELLO

United States

#108448 Jul 18, 2013
kellerman wrote:
It's not appropriate to teach religion in school. we live in a diverse society and can't teach all religions in schools. One has to keep these separate, it's up to the parents to inform their children on religious upbringing. I thought this issue was long solved, but i see it keeps coming back up.
Right now everyone is promoting atheism. We aren't allowed to talk about God because we might offend someone! Look where that has gotten us! Did you hear of school shootings when we were allowed to pray in school? Nope!
White Lightening

Gardena, CA

#108449 Jul 18, 2013
aWitchintheWoods wrote:
<quoted text>
So you would be uncomfortable in a country of atheists?
If so, why?
not if they believe freedom of religion = freedom from religion.
WeNeedGodBackinA merica

Tampa, FL

#108450 Jul 18, 2013
Ephesians 5:6-9
King James Version (KJV)

6 Let no man deceive you with vain words: for because of these things cometh the wrath of God upon the children of disobedience.
7 Be not ye therefore partakers with them.
8 For ye were sometimes darkness, but now are ye light in the Lord: walk as children of light:
10 Proving what is acceptable unto the Lord.
11 And have no fellowship with the unfruitful works of darkness, but rather reprove them.
12 For it is a shame even to speak of those things which are done of them in secret.
13 But all things that are reproved are made manifest by the light: for whatsoever doth make manifest is light.
14 Wherefore he saith, Awake thou that sleepest, and arise from the dead, and Christ shall give thee light.
15 See then that ye walk circumspectly, not as fools, but as wise,
16 Redeeming the time, because the days are evil.
17 Wherefore be ye not unwise, but understanding what the will of the Lord is.

Psalm 119:7
King James Version (KJV)

7 I will praise thee with uprightness of heart, when I shall have learned thy righteous judgments.

“I'll think about it.”

Since: Nov 07

central Florida

#108451 Jul 18, 2013
White Lightening wrote:
<quoted text> i am comfortable with a country where the citizens believe in something beyond them.
So you would be comfortable in Iran or Iraq?
With people who make laws concerning your behavior based on their religious views?
So true

Pelham, TN

#108452 Jul 18, 2013
WeNeedGodBackinAmerica wrote:
Ephesians 5:6-9
King James Version (KJV)
6 Let no man deceive you with vain words: for because of these things cometh the wrath of God upon the children of disobedience.
7 Be not ye therefore partakers with them.
8 For ye were sometimes darkness, but now are ye light in the Lord: walk as children of light:
10 Proving what is acceptable unto the Lord.
11 And have no fellowship with the unfruitful works of darkness, but rather reprove them.
12 For it is a shame even to speak of those things which are done of them in secret.
13 But all things that are reproved are made manifest by the light: for whatsoever doth make manifest is light.
14 Wherefore he saith, Awake thou that sleepest, and arise from the dead, and Christ shall give thee light.
15 See then that ye walk circumspectly, not as fools, but as wise,
16 Redeeming the time, because the days are evil.
17 Wherefore be ye not unwise, but understanding what the will of the Lord is.
Psalm 119:7
King James Version (KJV)
7 I will praise thee with uprightness of heart, when I shall have learned thy righteous judgments.
bring it back..
So true

Pelham, TN

#108453 Jul 18, 2013
Being obedient to the truth means that we don't have to look at others through the distorted lenses of our own biases .. What a great statement..
So true

Pelham, TN

#108454 Jul 18, 2013
Nite all.. Blessings
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#108455 Jul 18, 2013
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curious

Ocoee, FL

#108456 Jul 18, 2013
Quantummist wrote:
<quoted text>
Yes and we can tell how the types of stars each element was processed through before it became you... We know that at least one Quasar and One Super nova was required to make you you....
Evolution started the Instant Physical Matter was converted from the Unified Indefinable Energy Quantum at least 14 Billion years ago... Each subatomic particle that self assembled in the universe was a step in the Evolution of man and all life... How ever you define life... And that is a moving target... Today Life exists from 60 below zero to 400 degrees above, live lives in oxygen and it lives in pure methane.... Live exists at pressures that would cause your blood to boil at altitude and pressures that would crush you like a semi running over a grape... Life Thrives in toxic acid baths and the hearts of nuclear reactors... And that is but Life as We Know It... A species that has been around for only a fraction of a tick of the cosmic clock.....
Hey Quant,you are still the funniest guy..witchinthe woods and her aliases run a distant second,Although,He/It /She is more touched in the head than you are.
You and the witch and her brew have shed some light on my family history with which I was not familiar.
I have been called a scoundrel,a cad,a bounder,a perpetrator of academic fraud and an SOB,but never have I been called the son of a star...
I will be dipped in doodoo.
Of the quasar and the super nova,we will call them Adam and Eve,
Which one was the female and which was the male,,,or was this a sexless encounter....
Two stars having sex....Under the stars...

Sounds like Liz Taylor and Richard Burton.....

You pervert you...
What will you think of next?

And the poor befuddled Witch took it all in,hook.line and broomstick
curious

Ocoee, FL

#108457 Jul 18, 2013
WeNeedGodBackinAmerica wrote:
Ephesians 5:6-9
King James Version (KJV)
6 Let no man deceive you with vain words: for because of these things cometh the wrath of God upon the children of disobedience.
7 Be not ye therefore partakers with them.
8 For ye were sometimes darkness, but now are ye light in the Lord: walk as children of light:
10 Proving what is acceptable unto the Lord.
11 And have no fellowship with the unfruitful works of darkness, but rather reprove them.
12 For it is a shame even to speak of those things which are done of them in secret.
13 But all things that are reproved are made manifest by the light: for whatsoever doth make manifest is light.
14 Wherefore he saith, Awake thou that sleepest, and arise from the dead, and Christ shall give thee light.
15 See then that ye walk circumspectly, not as fools, but as wise,
16 Redeeming the time, because the days are evil.
17 Wherefore be ye not unwise, but understanding what the will of the Lord is.
Psalm 119:7
King James Version (KJV)
7 I will praise thee with uprightness of heart, when I shall have learned thy righteous judgments.
Great choice of Scriptures,,,Thanks much

“Speaker of Mountain Wisdom....”

Since: Jan 10

Somerset, KY

#108458 Jul 18, 2013
curious wrote:
<quoted text>
Hey Quant,you are still the funniest guy..witchinthe woods and her aliases run a distant second,Although,He/It /She is more touched in the head than you are.
You and the witch and her brew have shed some light on my family history with which I was not familiar.
I have been called a scoundrel,a cad,a bounder,a perpetrator of academic fraud and an SOB,but never have I been called the son of a star...
I will be dipped in doodoo.
Of the quasar and the super nova,we will call them Adam and Eve,
Which one was the female and which was the male,,,or was this a sexless encounter....
Two stars having sex....Under the stars...
Sounds like Liz Taylor and Richard Burton.....
You pervert you...
What will you think of next?
And the poor befuddled Witch took it all in,hook.line and broomstick
Because she understood it, you didn't.... But then again it's tough for a 3rd grader to understand how a nuclear reactor works also....

Since: Jul 13

Location hidden

#108459 Jul 18, 2013
curious wrote:
<quoted text>
Hey Quant,you are still the funniest guy..witchinthe woods and her aliases run a distant second,Although,He/It /She is more touched in the head than you are.

<---I have been reading your posts trying to figure out where you stand. Are you christian, atheist, theist, agnostic...?--->

You and the witch and her brew have shed some light on my family history with which I was not familiar.
I have been called a scoundrel,a cad,a bounder,a perpetrator of academic fraud and an SOB,but never have I been called the son of a star...
I will be dipped in doodoo.
Of the quasar and the super nova,we will call them Adam and Eve,
Which one was the female and which was the male,,,or was this a sexless encounter....
Two stars having sex....Under the stars...
Sounds like Liz Taylor and Richard Burton.....
You pervert you...
What will you think of next?
And the poor befuddled Witch took it all in,hook.line and broomstick
<--- because by your rebuttal I can't really tell --->

“Question, Explore, Discover”

Since: Dec 11

Location hidden

#108460 Jul 19, 2013
do whut wrote:
<quoted text>
You also believe Jesus was a fraud, so your opinion is not important to me.
That's fine, I don't expect my opinion will amount to much for you.

I don't recall ever saying Jesus was a fraud. With figures so obscure and ancient it is really hard to know much about their intentions. We have scant evidence of his existence, let alone his motivations. If he was real then I think it is more plausible to say that he was genuine in his own beliefs and teachings. I'd say the magic attributed to him is mostly added later (read the gospels in the order in which they were actually written and you can see the magic getting more and more fantastical, the claims more and more elaborate...that's how legends grow).

But I can say those things. You can't. If your starting point is "I believe" then from that you can't get to the truth. You have to start with "I want to know". Then you can follow the evidence. And evidence is the clearest path to truth.

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