Bible study rules for public schools proposed

Feb 10, 2010 | Posted by: roboblogger | Full story: The Courier-Journal

FRANKFORT, Ky. - The state would create rules for teaching about the Bible in public high schools under a bill filed Monday by three Democratic senators.

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do whut wrote:
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Moral is not a word I have used one single time in this thread. And no, just because animals get horny and satisfy themselves in a homosexual nature, does not make it natural. Nature would not survive unless the procreation all urges and powers had a purpose. So just because an animal gets his rocks off this way only proves how powerful the urge is, not that nature intended it to be that way.
"Moral" is a judgement you make all the time - you just don't spell it with 5 letters.
Play is natural, procreation is natural. You are making the argument against recreational sex with your spouse because it is not strictly for procreation and it is therefore immoral and unnatural.

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do whut wrote:
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I didn't mention any particular subject when discussing facts and theory. What started us talking about fact and theory though was someone saying it was fact that people are born gay. To which I said the scientific community has said there is no conclusive evidence that confirms this. I didn't make that up. You are free to look it up yourself.
There are some scientists that say yes and some no. But if all are using the scientific method correctly, they would come up with the same conclusion, but this has not happened.
But if you want to talk about evolution, there is no conclusive evidence that man came from apes either. There is a missing link that keeps anyone from calling that fact. There is some evidence that many call compelling, but not conclusive.
No.

The scientific evidence dispels the idea that homosexuality is chosen. You are correct that it does not prove conclusively that no choice is involved.

Human sexuality is largely a social concept as well as biological. It is immensely complex. That is why there is disagreement.

But for the most part the scientific community is overwhelmingly against the bigot's argument that gays choose to be gay. It ain't that simple, bro. Sorry to break it to ya.

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happy wrote:
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U all are in serious denial. This post generating so many comments is what is amazing. Lol. GOD IS REAL. If He were not .. U would not b here..:-)
Set down the bottle and back away....
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Whatever you are trying?
Really isn't working.
wtf

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WeNeedGodBackinAmerica wrote:
Whatever you are trying?
Really isn't working.
That sure will not work.
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curious wrote:
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Comparing plants and humans is a LOOOOOOOOONG stretch.You musta played 1st base on your baseball team.
Thanks for your answer. I did some research.
Turns out that those who arrived at the same conclusions as you did,did so,not by observing the plants,but by smoking them...
I also talked to a number of jail wardens.
Although their jails are full of men,no one has ever observed one of these men developing and growing female parts
Some may wannabe,but it don't work that way...
You are a complete idiot.
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Yiago wrote:
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Creationists never cease to amaze me. This is one of the dumbest things I've read this week. And that's saying a lot.
Evolution is the study of how animals have changed over time.
Atheist is rejection of the claim that gods exist.
Do you see how they are not the same thing at all?
Many Christians call themselves patriots and like American flags. Does that mean American flags are Christian flags? Many scientists are atheist. Does that mean science is atheism?
Any scientist, that cannot see God's handiwork IN His creation, and/or tries hard to deny that there is a Creating God... is an Atheist!
Anti-Christ if you will...
Our American flag WAS Designed by God fearing Christian people, and
sewn By a Christian woman... So Yes!
God Bless America!
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aWitchintheWoods wrote:
"Blah, blah, blah...."
"How stupid can you be?"
With every post you show us how truly ignorant you are.
You could be the poster boy for atheism.
Keep up the good work.
No....
The ignorance is on YOUR part!
Every Godless post you make... Proves the God you hate
To be True... That must suck for you, as you cannot say
jack... without proving US, and God right!
We still pray for you!
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aWitchintheWoods wrote:
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It is amusing when Christians fight over what they believe primitive superstitious goatherders wrote.
Very!
Hahahaha!
Mock on!
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aWitchintheWoods wrote:
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LOL! The "truth" bites you on the ass and you shoo it away so you can cling to your delusion. You are funny.
You are sad...
You don't know what the Truth is!
God is real, and you are lost!
Your clock is running out of time, and you really need to
get to KNOW your Lord, or you'll be standing at Judgment saying
"Uhhh, ummm, uh,,,,,"
Those Goatherders... Know more than you!
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Yiago wrote:
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I give you facts, you give me a naked assertion. What part of my post was not factually true?
The only mention of god in the founding documents of this nation is "nature's god". By that, Jefferson meant the god of reason. A deist god. If you think otherwise then you don't know anything about Thomas Jefferson.
Don't just reply with a naked reversal of my argument. Don't just say "You're wrong, I'm right". Demonstrate your opinion with evidence.
"They still believed in a God who played an active role in the affairs of the world but they no longer believed in such doctrines as original sin, the infallibility of Scripture, or Christ's sacrificial atonement. Most had also rejected the virgin birth and the Trinity. Rather than subordinating reason to Biblical revelation, they subjected revelation to reason, discarding those parts of the Bible they found unreasonable. The influence of John Locke and the 18th-century Whig tradition had transformed their concept of God. As Frazer points out, no Calvinist would have made Thomas Jefferson's claim that "nature's God" had created man with an unalienable right to the pursuit of happiness.
If, moreover, the founders had been evangelicals on a religious mission, surely they would have mentioned Jesus Christ in the Declaration, the Constitution, or The Federalist. Jefferson drafted the Declaration in the language of theistic rationalism but was artful enough to make it palatable to a wide array of readers, many of whom, as he knew, would be Christians."
https://www.claremont.org/publications/crb/id...
Believe whatever you want... we've been through this before!
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Skeptical Spectacles wrote:
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"But, but... Glenn Beck says all the Founding Fathers were Christians and they wanted the U.S. to be a Christian nation. He even cried when he told me so!"
No you tard...
The Founding Fathers SAID "They were Christians"!
They created this more perfect Union to Stop
Un-righteous man from polluting our nation with his lusts...
Now look at US...
Buy a Clue!
(as if that would help!)
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<quoted text> the rightwing nutcase fundies on this thread are so extremist that they will never see reason. I keep looking for anyone here who is religious and not a rightwing nut, and anyone here who is irreligious and not highly intelligent. Cannot find such persons. I know they exist in the real world.
I would prefer, however, to have intelligent conversations with the nonbelievers on here, rather than wasting time arguing with fundies. If there were any centrist on here it would be worth making rational arguments to try to appeal to them, but I see few centrists either. So could we discuss things among ourselves sometimes, instead of constantly being mired down in replying to the fundies?
I would be interested in knowing more about your own views on various issues. I am an agnostic (not claiming to know) atheist (not believing in a God), and also agnostic and nonbelieving with regard to an afterlife and creation theories and the nature of the universe and a whole set of cosmic questions. I also think it makes more sense to not believe, than to believe - but it also makes more sense not to claim to know, than to claim to know. One has no burden of proof if one does not claim to know.
I also have great doubts about free will, and am inclined to believe in a rather complicated view of determinism. Some of what gets determined by prior causes comes through our thought processes, and sometimes it seems we are making free choices, but we have not evaluated all the things that cause us to do as we do, or to want what we want. So I am opposed to blame in the usual sense, but all the more in favor of detention and deterrence so people cannot hurt each other. That does not stop me from having visceral reactions of assigning "blame" and "guilt" - but it makes me generally oppose the death penalty, for example, and favor life imprisonment under relatively humane conditions, as a prevention - less than punishment. I am just as angry about injustices as anyone else - but who and what caused the bad person to become so bad? That philosophical question would kick in, despite my feeling of hostility to someone - like Zimmerman, for example. He should be prevented from doing it again, however.
"they will never see reason"
Hahahaha!
No... we've found "reason", and you are the ones lacking!
God is real.... You'll know the truth soon enough!
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Mike Duquette wrote:
<quoted text>Now you claim their is absolutely no evidence for evolution?
I have no idea what you think "evidence" is, so I really have no idea where to start with this.
I think the fossil evidence found shows, evolution of animals and plants occur. It is clear that in the distant past, animals lived that look very close to what the animals that lived after them looked like. This happened in a progression that confirms the idea all the way to modern humans. We humans look very much like apes, and even have extremely close DNA relations.
Other than a larger brain, less hair, and walking upright, their is little to nothing different about us and apes.
We can see adaptations being naturally selected. This can be tested and seen virtually before our eyes in viruses and bacteria.
I get that you cannot put the pieces of evidence together to conclude animals and plants evolve, but to claim their is no evidence that points to the theory being true is just an extreme denial of the facts.
"I think the fossil evidence found shows, evolution of animals and plants occur"....
Wrong again!
Fossils ONLY show something DIED!
Notice the Layers... Almost as if they were buried Quickly, as in say.... A FLOOD!
Gees.... You'll strain at a gnat to swallow a camel!
NO intermediate fossils have, or will be found... EVER!
I guess you guys could CREATE some... Again!
Hahaha... that's funny, I never could figure out cheaters...
To win a game by cheating, and lying... proves only that you cheat, and lie!
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Spaceship earth wrote:
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What reason would an atheist become God fearing? Some of the God fearing christians have converted to Islam and Judaism. Some of the God fearing Christians have abandoned the belief in God and become Atheist. So I don't think you have made a good point for a belief in a God.
Most christians believe that Armageddon will happen between now and 2018. If it does not within next ten years will you still believe in God?
Satan does not care HOW you go to hell... just that you go!
He lead Adam, and Eve away with a lie too!
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Buck Crick wrote:
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That's right.
The reason you SHOULD dwell on is when you are shot down for walking around with your thumb stuck up your ass.
Hello Buck!
Good day to ya!
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A fact is something so obviously true it would be ridiculous to deny it.
The reason evolution is considered a fact by most thinking people is because the evidence is so overwhelming it would be silly to deny it.
We could quibble over definitions all day long but in the end that is the truth of it.
Now, as the actual *theory* that explains evolution we cannot call that a fact. That is why the term "scientific theory" is used.
When a ball is dropped it falls to the ground. That is a fact. The theories of Newton and Einstein explain the fact.
Hahahaha... Hahahaha... Hahahahaha!
What tripe!
Hahahahahahahahahaha!
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Quantummist wrote:
<quoted text>If there is no God but there are those that Believe there is then what Bacon bits says is moot.... Atheist are not concerned with a God.... Atheists are concerned with what Believer in God might do in the real world due to living part time in a make believe world....
Wait till u c our make believe..
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LOL in a suit wrote:
"SCOTUS shoots down DOMA and you could hear a pin drop on here."

The religies are waiting on god for a reply. The religie websites will post it as soon as god tells them and it will appear here shortly afer that, chain of command thingy.
No big surprise.? Sodom and Gomorrah ...
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Khubala wrote:
Sir Isaac Newton

Atheism is so senseless & odious to mankind that it never had many professors. Can it be by accident that all birds beasts & men have their right side & left side alike shaped (except in their bowells) & just two eyes & no more on either side the face & just two ears on either side the head & a nose with two holes & no more between the eyes & one mouth under the nose & either two fore leggs or two wings or two arms on the sholders & two leggs on the hipps one on either side & no more? Whence arises this uniformity in all their outward shapes but from the counsel & contrivance of an Author? Whence is it that the eyes of all sorts of living creatures are transparent to the very bottom & the only transparent members in the body, having on the outside an hard transparent skin, & within transparent juyces with a crystalline Lens in the middle & a pupil before the Lens all of them so truly shaped & fitted for vision, that no Artist can mend them? Did blind chance know that there was light & what was its refraction & fit the eys of all creatures after the most curious manner to make use of it? These & such like considerations always have & ever will prevail with man kind to believe that there is a being who made all things & has all things in his power & who is therfore to be feared.
Amen

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