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Bible study rules for public schools proposed

There are 151919 comments on the The Courier-Journal story from Feb 10, 2010, titled Bible study rules for public schools proposed. In it, The Courier-Journal reports that:

FRANKFORT, Ky. - The state would create rules for teaching about the Bible in public high schools under a bill filed Monday by three Democratic senators.

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“I'll think about it.”

Since: Nov 07

central Florida

#108378 Jul 16, 2013
Yes and Amen wrote:
<quoted text>Hahahaha!
You are so ignorant!
Your body is just a machine to carry your "Spirit/soul" on this earth!
God is a Spirit, and came in the flesh to save you, and I...
It was a gift, take it or leave it... I took mine :-)
IF your "god" were real, I would spit in his eye.
I have no respect for a creature who would punish those he "loved" for eternity for the finite "crime" of not worshipping him.

Since: Feb 12

Rancho Cordova, CA

#108379 Jul 16, 2013
do whut wrote:
<quoted text>
Sin is sin. If you sin, it is against all three members of the Godhead. This is different from denying God or the Holy Spirit.
I agree sin is sin. I do not agree about denying God or the holy spirit.

Look this is were I think you understand of this concept is not correct.

Hebrews 10:26
If we deliberately keep on sinning after we have received the knowledge of the truth, no sacrifice for sins is left.

The bible explictly say that if you have the correct doctrine of the truth (which all christians sects say they have) including yourself and if you willfully sin then no sacrifice for sins is left.

So the unforgivable sin would be a sin against the TRUTH.

Hebrews 10:26
If we deliberately keep on sinning after we have received the knowledge of the TRUTH, no sacrifice for sins is left.

John 16:13
But when he, the Spirit of truth, comes, he will guide you into all the TRUTH.

If you don't have the TRUTH in the first place then you cannot sin against the Holy Spirit.

This then means the heavy burden is upon those that have the TRUTH and then willfully keep sinning.

Ecclesiastes 5:4-8
4 When you make a vow to God, do not delay in fulfilling it. He has no pleasure in fools; fulfill your vow. 5 It is better not to vow than to make a vow and not fulfill it.

I would like to see what other religious ones think about the understanding of how you can sin against the Holy Spirit, since they are the ones who claim to have the truth.

“Headline already in use”

Since: Dec 08

Home, sweet home.

#108381 Jul 16, 2013
ChromiuMan wrote:
If you had studied how Rick Scott and Tallahassee has defended the "stand your ground" law, the Zimmerman verdict would be no surprise.
There's that too.

Lesson from Tray: when bouncing an old man's head off the street, expect to get shot. Just saying.
curious

Winter Garden, FL

#108384 Jul 16, 2013
Yiago wrote:
<quoted text>
lol...you're posting Alister McGrath stuff. A theologian thinks atheism is dead...shocker!
Good night, you crazy, crazy person.
Seems that you conveniently overlooked the reasons for the decline
of Atheism..
Here is a reminder
The Decline of Atheism
According to Munich theologian Wolfhart Pannenberg, "Atheism as a theoretical position is in decline worldwide."
According to Oxford's Alister McGrath, Atheism's "future seems increasingly to lie in the private beliefs of individuals rather than in the great public domain it once regarded as its habitat," Christianity Today.[1]
Reasons cited for the decline of atheism include:
Substantive challenges to naturalistic explanations for the origin of life;
Substantive challenges to psychological theories viewing religion as a pathology, and a scientific demonstration of the health benefits of a spiritual life;
Philosophical challenges to the presuppositions and axioms of atheism, such as materialism;
The decline of Marxism and Leninism;
Tenuousness of belief in atheism by many of its own believers;
Reduction in atheism and resurgence of theistic belief worldwide;
Inhuman acts committed by atheists throughout the 20th century;
The origin of life
The origin of life (abiogenesis) has always provided something of a challenge for atheism. To date, life has never, under any circumstances, been observed spontaneously arising from non-life. Further, as the study of biology progresses, scientists and the public at large are becoming ever more aware of the profound complexity, intricacy and beauty evident in even the simplest forms of life.
It was detail at this level, specifically the fact that a single cell can contain more information than the entire Encyclopedia Britannica, that convinced the well known atheist Anthony Flew that atheism was indefensible, and caused him to convert to deism.
Psychology
Another traditional bastion of atheism has been the belief that religion is a form of psychological pathology. This view was promoted by Freud, and more recently by R. Stark & W. S. Bainbridge in their work, Theory of Religion. The traditional argument was that religion was both the result of neurosis, and the cause of further deterioration into neurosis.
Recently, however, these ideas have come under fire by medical and psychological research. The Mayo Clinic did an analysis of 850 mental health studies involving religious belief and involvement and found that mental health was positively affected by faith.[2]
Subsequently, 1,200 studies at research centers around the world have come to similar conclusions. For example, Psychologie Heute, a German journal, cites the marked improvement of multiple sclerosis patients in Germany's Ruhr District because of "spiritual resources." [3]
Professor Vitz did a study of the most prominent professed atheists in the last 400 years; it appears that those individuals neither were nor are paragons of mental health, and that a disproportionate number had strained relationships with their fathers.[4][5]
Some challenge Prof. Vitz's argument that the temperament of an atheist arises from a strained relationship with his father, without addressing the possibility that both the atheism and the strained paternal relationship may have stemmed from the child's native cantankerous and rebellious temperament.
As a result of these facts, many have become convinced that religion is psychologically beneficial, and that it is atheism which is both a cause and a result of mental illness.

Since: Aug 10

Location hidden

#108385 Jul 16, 2013
curious wrote:
<quoted text>
Seems that you conveniently overlooked the reasons for the decline
of Atheism..
Here is a reminder...a bunch of xian propaganda...
What makes you think that Atheism is on the decline?
Waco

Greenville, SC

#108386 Jul 16, 2013
aWitchintheWoods wrote:
<quoted text>
IF your "god" were real, I would spit in his eye.
I have no respect for a creature who would punish those he "loved" for eternity for the finite "crime" of not worshipping him.
You seem familiar.
Waco

Greenville, SC

#108387 Jul 16, 2013
curious wrote:
<quoted text>
If you are interested ,Google"Religious Affiliation, Atheism and Suicide
It will get you there.
BTW 1)Curious is a figment of my imagination,Although he has never had a bowel movement,he is not full of tihs..
2) English is not my native tongue. You made the same allegations using your regular nick Yiago..
Just so you understand
Porta fa Hist, zumindest, ein wichtiger . interessiert man sich mehr fur hingegen wird sie als betrachtet.
Vor zehn radaskatz gab es nur mehr , heute wachst die. Unter ihnen und bringt man nicht unbedingt mit
Y,por si acaso no entiendes en Aleman,aqui tienes,en otro de mis favoritos idiomas..
Canto E loco
El proximo te lo mandare en Frances o italiano Capice gumbadi,,,Testa di cipollla
Thanks for clearing that up.

“Breaking the spell ”

Since: Dec 10

of the puppet master

#108388 Jul 16, 2013
Skeptical Spectacles wrote:
<quoted text>
What makes you think that Atheism is on the decline?
atheism is not on a decline, in fact it is growing faster than any religion.

Since: Aug 10

Location hidden

#108389 Jul 17, 2013
Mike Duquette wrote:
<quoted text>atheism is not on a decline, in fact it is growing faster than any religion.
Indeed
Yes and Amen

Georgetown, KY

#108390 Jul 17, 2013
aWitchintheWoods wrote:
<quoted text>
That is YOUR fear that you are referring to, not mine.
I am not afraid of dying.
There is no hell or heaven, just the same nothingness as before being born.
And you are so scared you might be wrong.
Obviously, you've not read my posts...
God is real, and I am not wrong!
Yes and Amen

Georgetown, KY

#108391 Jul 17, 2013
aWitchintheWoods wrote:
<quoted text>
IF your "god" were real, I would spit in his eye.
I have no respect for a creature who would punish those he "loved" for eternity for the finite "crime" of not worshipping him.
"I would spit in his eye"...
This is why!
He sent you a Savior to take you out of that eternal punishment,
and... you'd spit in His eye?
What an ingrate!
Yet.... He still offers you salvation... Take it, and
say "Thank you"...

“See how you are?”

Since: Jul 12

Earth

#108392 Jul 17, 2013
Brian_G wrote:
<quoted text>There's that too.
Lesson from Tray: when bouncing an old man's head off the street, expect to get shot. Just saying.
That's like saying an arsonist didn't set the fire, he just dropped the match when it burnt his finger. Zimmerman shouldn't have gotten in a kid's face who wasn't breaking the law. Fight of flight is unpredictable and according to testimony, Martin had already tried running before the final fatal confrontation.
"Old man" Zimmerman was 28 at the time.
You often seem to get your "facts" confused with your "want to believes". Just saying.

“I'll think about it.”

Since: Nov 07

central Florida

#108393 Jul 17, 2013
Yes and Amen wrote:
<quoted text>Obviously, you've not read my posts...
God is real, and I am not wrong!
Oh yes, I have read your posts.

You state over and over how terrible it will be to die, face an imaginary judgement by a "loving god" and endure a mythical eternal punishment.

Your words make it quite clear how fearful you are.

“I'll think about it.”

Since: Nov 07

central Florida

#108394 Jul 17, 2013
Yes and Amen wrote:
<quoted text>"I would spit in his eye"...
This is why!
He sent you a Savior to take you out of that eternal punishment,
and... you'd spit in His eye?
What an ingrate!
Yet.... He still offers you salvation... Take it, and
say "Thank you"...
Sent a "savior?" Why make it complicated?
Why not just say, "I forgive you all for the mistakes I made in creating you. My bad. Sorry."

Stupid primitive superstition.

No, thank you. No NEED of "salvation" here.

“Headline already in use”

Since: Dec 08

Home, sweet home.

#108395 Jul 17, 2013
ChromiuMan wrote:
That's like saying an arsonist didn't set the fire, he just dropped the match when it burnt his finger. Zimmerman shouldn't have gotten in a kid's face who wasn't breaking the law. Fight of flight is unpredictable and according to testimony, Martin had already tried running before the final fatal confrontation.
"Old man" Zimmerman was 28 at the time.
You often seem to get your "facts" confused with your "want to believes". Just saying.
Tray shouldn't have bounced George's head off the street, what else can you expect? There were only two injuries on Tray, bruised knuckles and a bullet wound. Did you see the photos of George?
you are a liar

Mount Vernon, KY

#108396 Jul 17, 2013
curious wrote:
<quoted text>
Seems that you conveniently overlooked the reasons for the decline
of Atheism..
Decline of atheism? What a lying pile of trash you are.
http://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/the-human...
http://www.economist.com/blogs/democracyiname...

“Speaker of Mountain Wisdom....”

Since: Jan 10

London, KY

#108397 Jul 17, 2013
Yes and Amen wrote:
<quoted text>Obviously, you've not read my posts...
God is real, and I am not wrong!
"So you say, but cannot demonstrate"
Bush ax

Glasgow, KY

#108398 Jul 17, 2013
aWitchintheWoods wrote:
<quoted text>
<Sent a "savior?" Why make it complicated?
Why not just say, "I forgive you all for the mistakes I made in creating you. My bad. Sorry.">
God didn't make the mistakes; Lucifer, your master, rebelled against God and led man astray... much as he has done with you.

<Stupid primitive superstition.>
And Wicca is what?
No, thank you. No NEED of "salvation" here.
yes, you need it; you just reject it.
curious

Winter Garden, FL

#108399 Jul 17, 2013
you are a liar wrote:
<quoted text>
Decline of atheism? What a lying pile of trash you are.
http://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/the-human...
http://www.economist.com/blogs/democracyiname...
Depending at what study you look at,some will show Atheism declining,some will show Atheism increasing.
Whether increasing or decreasing,Atheism will have no effect on the existence of God.
God does not depend for his Existence on how many may or may not believe in Him.
What is interesting is that polls show that Atheists are the most distrusted group in America...
Also,25% OF ATHEISTS attend religious services on a weekly basis and many of their children,once they reach adulthood,convert into believers.
Obviously there is something about Atheism that they are unable to tolerate.
What that may be is open to conjecture.
Possibly,the fact that Unbelievers have a higher suicidial rate than the average,higher rate of drug and alcohol abuse and other mental problems than those who profess a belief in God.

Famous Atheists Antony Flew and Psychologist Albert Ellis have recanted their views on God and the positive effect belief in God
has on mental illness...Among others
The fact remains that God has ,does and will always exist regardless of how many unbeliecers may be spawned by those who believe that the Universe,our planet and life as we know it are the result of an unexplainable accident that happened billions of years ago.
That nothing created something out of nothing is not only absurd,it is insane...
BTW,,,Stop changing monickers,,you are fooling no one..
You are a liar and your deceptive tactics fool no one

“I'll think about it.”

Since: Nov 07

central Florida

#108400 Jul 17, 2013
Bush ax wrote:
<quoted text> aWitchintheWoods wrote:
<quoted text>
<Sent a "savior?" Why make it complicated?
Why not just say, "I forgive you all for the mistakes I made in creating you. My bad. Sorry.">
God didn't make the mistakes; Lucifer, your master, rebelled against God and led man astray... much as he has done with you.

<Stupid primitive superstition.>
And Wicca is what?
No, thank you. No NEED of "salvation" here.
yes, you need it; you just reject it.
You haven't quite figured out how to use those pesky "QUOTE" AND "/QUOTE" symbols yet, have you?

Your "god" isn't much of a "god" if he didn't know Lucifer, along with 1/3 of his angel forces, was going to rebel.(according to the myth)
Omniscient? Guess not...
If your "god" knew about Lucifer and his plan, why didn't he stop him with a snap of the old magical fingers? He has to "wage war" on Lucifer? Really?
Omnipotent? Not so much....

And why should I defend Wicca? I am an atheist.
Wicca does indeed have better morals and a reverence for Nature that are more admirable than Christian values but I realized some time ago that the belief in anthropomorphized invisible beings is foolish.

Keep your primitive fears and superstitions. Go on believing that some imaginary parental figure is watching over you, judging you and will, in the end, punish or reward you.
Since there is no evidence for any of that, I'll take reality.

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