Bible study rules for public schools proposed

Feb 10, 2010 Full story: The Courier-Journal 135,029

FRANKFORT, Ky. - The state would create rules for teaching about the Bible in public high schools under a bill filed Monday by three Democratic senators.

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curious

Ocoee, FL

#108265 Jul 10, 2013
Yiago wrote:
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Wow! 255 atheists go to church?! I thought it would be more.
255 OUT OF EVERY THOUSAND,Roughly about 25%...
And they attend a religious service on a weekly basis.

And if you want more information on it,go right to the horse's mouth.
Interview your Atheist acquaintances and ask them "what are you seeking at religious services that Atheism has failed to provide?
You might also want to ask your adult children the same question.
Don't get me wrong,I am not criticizing those church going nonbelievers who are looking for real answers in this life.
Matter of fact,it is great to see they are finally dealing with reality.... May God bless them all...
I believe that would make them very happy...
An answer for that which they are seeking
Known Fact

Kissimmee, FL

#108266 Jul 10, 2013
GWB wrote:
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Appears that you have sexual predators praying on children in your church.
The Watchtower Org tried to cover it up like the Catholic church. Watchtower ordered to pay 11 million to the victim in this case.
Candace Conti Awarded $28M In Jehovah's Witness Sex Abuse Case
HUFFPOST SUPER USER
Thom Wheeler Castillo
DO you know how many Jehovah's witnesses kids I know have been molested by someone they knew in their congregation? How many victims were shamed/gossiped about when they came forward to the elders? And were then told to forgive their abuser?? I can think of at least 20, including myself.
Maybe now I have a sense of JUSTICE THAT THIS ORGANIZATION IS FINALLY BEING EXPOSED FOR COVERING UP 10,000's of instances OF SEXUALLY ABUSED CHILDREN.
They're more concerned with their image than keeping children safe.
This religious group really thinks theyre chosen people of god and inflated sense of self makes them accomplices to vile actions of their repressed leaders.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/06/16/cali...
I have been one of Jehovah's Witnesses for over 40 years and I am not aware of any of the accusations you make! What is your source of information?
May I ask what were you desfelloowshipped for? Evidently you are very bitter and are trying to retaliate.

Since: Aug 10

Location hidden

#108267 Jul 11, 2013
curious wrote:
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...
My faith is not based on nosensical theories that are imagined in order to expalin spititual events that were revealed by God through his prophets.
Nowhere do they claim to speak of their own authority,but as the spirit guided them.
Let me ask you this: What proof do you have that your faith is the right faith? How do you know that the Muslims aren't right? Why not the Jews? Or the Hindus? They all can claim the same thing as you. What makes you so sure you're worshiping the right god?
curious wrote:
<quoted text>
...
I believe in god,I believe in Jesus Christ,not based on a theory,but on my personal experiences.
You Atheists are unable to accept or understand.
So you mock thay which is beyond your limited comprehension.
...
Oh, but we do understand. We understand everything that you're experiencing. I don't know how many times I've tried to explain this to you, but...just because people disagree with you doesn't mean they don't understand what you're saying. How could you possibly make it this far in life and not get that?
curious wrote:
<quoted text>
Case closed
Somehow, I don't think so.

Since: Aug 10

Location hidden

#108268 Jul 11, 2013
I found a pic of curious and his wife out to dinner:

"We're getting the calamari for our appetizer. CASE CLOSED"
http://static.happyplace.com/assets/images/20...

Since: Aug 10

Location hidden

#108269 Jul 11, 2013
curious wrote:
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255 OUT OF EVERY THOUSAND,Roughly about 25%...
And they attend a religious service on a weekly basis.
Well, that would be exactly 25.5% which is an oddly specific percentage. Where did you get it from?
curious wrote:
<quoted text>
And if you want more information on it,go right to the horse's mouth.
Interview your Atheist acquaintances ...
Oh, that's right. You made it up.

“See how you are?”

Since: Jul 12

Earth

#108270 Jul 11, 2013
Skeptical Spectacles wrote:
<quoted text>
Well, that would be exactly 25.5% which is an oddly specific percentage. Where did you get it from?
<quoted text>
Oh, that's right. You made it up.
http://www.churchleaders.com/pastors/pastor-a...
GWB

Roseville, CA

#108273 Jul 11, 2013
Known Fact wrote:
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I have been one of Jehovah's Witnesses for over 40 years and I am not aware of any of the accusations you make! What is your source of information?
May I ask what were you desfelloowshipped for? Evidently you are very bitter and are trying to retaliate.
You must be an idiot. Did you read the link I provided. Please take your head out of your ass, Dummy.
so true

United States

#108274 Jul 11, 2013
Good to know you are all still here. So today to you all,,,"A-HAs"
to each of you , A Hug and a Smile
Good day :)
uuummm

East Bernstadt, KY

#108276 Jul 11, 2013
Here is more about what the study says about the unaffiliated:

"The Landscape Survey finds that the unaffiliated population
is quite diverse and that it is simply not accurate to describe
this entire group as nonreligious or “secular.” Roughly one quarter of the unaffiliated population identifies itself as
atheist (1.6% of the overall adult population) or agnostic
(2.4% of the adult population). But the remaining three quarters (12.1% of the adult population) consists of people
who describe their religion as “nothing in particular.”(A
fuller discussion of the religious beliefs and practices of
the unaffiliated population will be included in a subsequent
report.)
This latter group consists of two smaller, fairly distinct subgroups. About half of people who
describe their religion as nothing in particular (6.3% of the overall adult population) say that
religion is not too important or not at all important in their lives. Thus, they can be thought of as
being mostly secular in their orientation. But the other half of this group (5.8% of adults) says that
religion is somewhat important or very important in their lives, despite their lack of affiliation with
any particular religious group. Thus, this group can be thought of as the “religious unaffiliated.”
(Differences in the demographic characteristics of the religious unaffiliated and their more secular
counterparts are discussed in more detail in Chapter 3.)"

On page 4 of the link above it says:

"As mentioned previously, the group that has exhibited the strongest growth as a result of
changes in affiliation is the unaffiliated population. Nevertheless, the overall retention rate of the
unaffiliated population is relatively low (46%) compared with other groups. This means that more
than half (54%) of those who were not affiliated with any particular religion as a child now identify
themselves as members of one religion or another."

But, as seen above, unaffiliated does not necessarily mean atheist. This just means that the "nothing in particular" folk may have chosen something particular.
ProvenScience

London, KY

#108277 Jul 11, 2013
ChromiuMan wrote:
<quoted text>
I appreciate the historical record that was left by the ancients, but that's not remotely close to LITERALLY WORSHIPING it.
Like materialistic, idoltry type worshipping stuff?

Yeah-that kind of thing isn't good either.
curious

Ocoee, FL

#108279 Jul 11, 2013
Believing in God could lead to better outcomes after psychiatric treatment, a small new study suggests.

The research, published in the Journal of Affective Disorders, shows that people who believe in a higher power are more likely to fare better after being treated for a psychiatric disorder.

"Given the prevalence of religious belief in the United States -- over 90 [percent] of the population -- these findings are important in that they highlight the clinical implications of spiritual life," study researcher David H. Rosmarin, Ph.D., who is an instructor in the Harvard Medical School's psychiatric department and a clinician at McLean hospital, said in a statement. "I hope that this work will lead to larger studies and increased funding in order to help as many people as possible."

The study included 159 people who were in a day-treatment program at McLean Hospital, who had an average age of 33. About 60 percent of them had been diagnosed with depression, about 12 percent had been diagnosed with bipolar disorder, and the others were diagnosed with disorders including anxiety disorders.

Researchers asked the study participants about the level of their belief in God -- gauged as having "no," "slight," "moderate" or "high" beliefs -- at the beginning of their treatment, as well as their depression, well-being and self-harm levels at the beginning and end of their treatment.

They found that people who said they believed in God had better chances of responding to their psychiatric treatment, compared with non-believers. Specifically, people who said they had "no" or "slight" belief in God had a doubled risk of not responding to their treatment.

Plus, researchers found that even those who believed in God but weren't religiously affiliated -- which constituted more than 30 percent of the people in the study -- still experienced the positive treatment outcomes.

"As a whole these findings suggest that belief in God is associated with improved treatment outcomes in psychiatric care," the researchers wrote in the study. "More centrally, our results suggest that belief in the credibility of psychiatric treatment and increased expectations to gain from treatment might be mechanisms by which belief in God can impact treatment outcomes."

Similarly, a University of Missouri study from last year showed that being spiritual is associated with better health, regardless of whether you actually ascribe to a particular religion.

"With increased spirituality people reduce their sense of self and feel a greater sense of oneness and connectedness with the rest of the universe," the researcher of that study, Dan Cohen, said in a statement.
sillly lady

London, KY

#108280 Jul 11, 2013
I am not copying stuff down from a book. As you can tell.....All I know for sure was that when Anton Levey (probably spelled that wrong too) was dying he suddenly converted and was praying to the Christian god. He was also saying stuff like "Oh no! This is not right. It isnt this way."
Take it any way you want but to me if Satans spawn here on earth cries out to God and Jesus.......
uuummm

East Bernstadt, KY

#108281 Jul 11, 2013
sillly lady wrote:
I am not copying stuff down from a book. As you can tell.....All I know for sure was that when Anton Levey (probably spelled that wrong too) was dying he suddenly converted and was praying to the Christian god. He was also saying stuff like "Oh no! This is not right. It isnt this way."
Take it any way you want but to me if Satans spawn here on earth cries out to God and Jesus.......
How do you know that for sure?

Since: Nov 12

Location hidden

#108282 Jul 11, 2013
Jeremiah 32:17

King James Version (KJV)


17 Ah Lord God! behold, thou hast made the heaven and the earth by thy great power and stretched out arm, and there is nothing too hard for thee:

“Question, Explore, Discover”

Since: Dec 11

Location hidden

#108283 Jul 12, 2013
sillly lady wrote:
I am not copying stuff down from a book. As you can tell.....All I know for sure was that when Anton Levey (probably spelled that wrong too) was dying he suddenly converted and was praying to the Christian god. He was also saying stuff like "Oh no! This is not right. It isnt this way."
Take it any way you want but to me if Satans spawn here on earth cries out to God and Jesus.......
Anton LaVey died a Satanist. I think you are a referring to a rumored "deathbed conversion". If that's the case, then it is a classic myth you hear a lot about famous atheists.

Kinda like "no atheists in foxholes", the deathbed confession is a trope of the religiously zealous. They love to tell stories about people "finally coming to their senses" and begging god for mercy.

It's silly and dumb.

Unless you can cite some solid, confirmed evidence. I mean, if I'm wrong then I'm wrong. But I need you to show me where you're getting this information.
GWB

Roseville, CA

#108284 Jul 12, 2013
Known Fact wrote:
<quoted text>
I have been one of Jehovah's Witnesses for over 40 years and I am not aware of any of the accusations you make! What is your source of information?
May I ask what were you desfelloowshipped for? Evidently you are very bitter and are trying to retaliate.
FYI, The word "disfellowship" does not appear in the Bible. What horrible sins did you commit before becoming a Jehovah's Witness. Are you still sinning?
How stupid can you be

Winchester, KY

#108285 Jul 12, 2013
uuummm wrote:
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You have to be the dumbest dumb @$$ on topix.
You are not offending the 'little ones' posting on this topix thread.
You are using a term that is offensive to people with developmental problems and their families. And some of them ARE those 'little ones'.
You lost any credibility on here long, long ago and I don't care how hard you are on these people because they know you are ignorant. You have no proof of anything you claim so you use offensive terms and language to draw attention away from that fact.
It is foolish to think that calling someone an offensive term is going to make them see the error of their ways and turn to your religion. You are just tarnishing the image of your religion....
So, have at it, I guess.
Ok, ok....
Lets have a vote!
Polls close Saturday at midnight!

Question: Who on here thinks my use of "Tard" as in "Willfully ignorant" is over the top?
Yes, or No!
I'll tally the votes Sunday morning, and the Will of the People
will be done! Ok?
PS... No dead people, Illegal immigrants, or pets can vote
on this, as it is NOT an Election of Government officials!
How stupid can you be

Winchester, KY

#108286 Jul 12, 2013
ChromiuMan wrote:
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You don't recognize, "I was born a poor black child" is a Steve Martin line from "The Jerk"?
Was there a Garden of Eden, a global flood, a tower of Babel, a parting of the Red Sea, talking snakes and donkeys, communiques from the Creator of the Universe,...?
Face the Fact, Bonzo. The "willfully ignorant" are the ones who believe superstition, myths and lies are "Truths".
Whatever you want to believe...
I'll still pray for you, as you've no hope...
not even for your family!
Sad!
Yes and Amen

Winchester, KY

#108287 Jul 12, 2013
curious wrote:
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I know that I was creared from nonliving matter and I know who gave me life.....It most certainly was not due to some unexplainable accident. Accidents are not known to create life.
The explanations that Atheists have provided for the BBT ,origins of life and Evolution consist of non provable and nonwitnessed events that supposedly occured billions of years ago for some unexplainable reason.
Those so called explanations are based on nonsense and gibberish.
But,you brought up some points that need to be clarified.
"Quote"Can you design and build a turbine or formulate the fuel for one?"
Says I No I can not,but,an Engineer,trained in that profession,most assuredly can.
It takes an intelligent being to design and construct such.
Question for you,Can a turbine evolve from scrap metal into a turbine of it's own volition?
Can you calculate the drag co-efficiency of a particular airfoil? Can you determine the strengths of alloys, design hydraulic systems or even weave a seat cushion? No. Did the Wright brothers invent the Airbus A380? No. Regardless of this, can you fly in one? Yes.
Did the airbus miraculously evolve from nothing or,did some intelligent being design and manufacture it?
“Molecular biology has shown that even the simplest of all living systems on the earth today, bacterial cells, are exceedingly complex objects. Although the tiniest bacterial cells are incredibly small, weighing less than 10-12 gms, each is in effect a veritable micro-miniaturized factory containing thousands of exquisitely designed pieces of intricate molecular machinery, made up altogether of one hundred thousand million atoms, far more complicated than any machine built by man and absolutely without parallel in the nonliving world.”
&#8213; Michael Denton, Evolution: A Theory In Crisis
Yes,there is a God.It is he,who created all..
It was neither chance or accident.....
Much to the chagrin and dismay of Atheists,
Our God can not be uncreated by the inane rantings of foolish minds.
Our God lives and Our God reigns and Jesus Christ is Lord
Amen!
Great post!
Yes and Amen

Winchester, KY

#108288 Jul 12, 2013
Skeptical Spectacles wrote:
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This is what blows my mind with you nutbags. How can you possibly use this as rationale? How is your "theory" provable? Who witnessed the events that you propose happened?
You complain relentlessly that science hasn't exhaustively defined and proven it's theories and then (supposedly because of that) you replace it with something that is outside the scope of reason entirely. You honestly don't see how ludicrous your argument is?
This blows our minds...
God is real, and HAS proved Himself to US, and will Prove Himself to ALL who seek Him with their whole heart!
God is real, and it is YOU people who are the "Nutbags" for knowing the Truth, and believing the Lies of satan!
"You honestly don't see how ludicrous your argument is?"
Go figure!

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