Bible study rules for public schools proposed

Feb 10, 2010 Full story: The Courier-Journal 131,438

FRANKFORT, Ky. - The state would create rules for teaching about the Bible in public high schools under a bill filed Monday by three Democratic senators.

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“Breaking the spell ”

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#108009 Jul 4, 2013
curious wrote:
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No,it does not point to open mindedness.
It points to the fact that even your own children sre able to discern the absurd allegations and nonsense espoused by their Atheist parents.
Madalyn Murray O'hair found that out,firsthand.
Guess that old axiom is true,
Foolishness is not passed down parent to child.
The child may well be wiser than the parent
If the child is wiser than the parent, then explain why so many leave religion and become atheists or agnostic? Have you seen those stats?
Atheism is growing faster than any religion, so your reasoning just makes your religion look all the more silly.

“Breaking the spell ”

Since: Dec 10

of the puppet master

#108010 Jul 4, 2013
Yiago wrote:
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I want to see the source of your data on percentages of children raised non-religious who turn to religion. Your 70% figure is not correct. Where did you read it?
Likely conservapedia.
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Kissimmee, FL

#108011 Jul 4, 2013
2Peter 3:9
Jehovah is not slow respecting his promise, as some people consider slowness, but he is patient with YOU because he does not desire any to be destroyed but desires all to attain to repentance.
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Kissimmee, FL

#108012 Jul 4, 2013
Mike Duquette wrote:
<quoted text>So you dare not answer my question I see. Denial is the key to faith.
Mike Duquette wroteg
<quoted text>I have no desire to know the mass murderer god you speak of, just as I do not care to know Charles Manson or Hitler.
Why do you not wish to know Zeus?
The mass murderer you speak of is Satan the Devil (John 8:44-47 &#8239;YOU are from YOUR father the Devil, and YOU wish to do the desires of YOUR father. That one was a manslayer when he began, and he did not stand fast in the truth, because truth is not in him. When he speaks the lie, he speaks according to his own disposition, because he is a liar and the father of [the lie]. 45&#8239;Because I, on the other hand, tell the truth, YOU do not believe me. 46&#8239;Who of YOU convicts me of sin? If I speak truth, why is it YOU do not believe me? 47&#8239;He that is from God listens to the sayings of God. This is why YOU do not listen, because YOU are not from God.
Satan evidently was the God Charles Manson, Hitler and others who do not believe in the True God Jehovah.
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Kissimmee, FL

#108013 Jul 4, 2013
Mike Duquette wrote:
<quoted text>If the child is wiser than the parent, then explain why so many leave religion and become atheists or agnostic? Have you seen those stats?
Atheism is growing faster than any religion, so your reasoning just makes your religion look all the more silly.
Revelation 12:12 explains why Atheism is growing so fast.
"On this account be glad, YOU heavens and YOU who reside in them! Woe for the earth and for the sea, because the Devil has come down to YOU, having great anger, knowing he has a short period of time.

“Breaking the spell ”

Since: Dec 10

of the puppet master

#108014 Jul 4, 2013
Known Fact wrote:
<quoted text>
The mass murderer you speak of is Satan the Devil (John 8:44-47 &#8239;YOU are from YOUR father the Devil, and YOU wish to do the desires of YOUR father. That one was a manslayer when he began, and he did not stand fast in the truth, because truth is not in him. When he speaks the lie, he speaks according to his own disposition, because he is a liar and the father of [the lie]. 45&#8239;Because I, on the other hand, tell the truth, YOU do not believe me. 46&#8239;Who of YOU convicts me of sin? If I speak truth, why is it YOU do not believe me? 47&#8239;He that is from God listens to the sayings of God. This is why YOU do not listen, because YOU are not from God.
Satan evidently was the God Charles Manson, Hitler and others who do not believe in the True God Jehovah.
Oh, so Satan flooded earth? Make up your mind, which god was it?
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Kissimmee, FL

#108015 Jul 4, 2013
Mike Duquette wrote:
<quoted text>So you dare not answer my question I see. Denial is the key to faith.
Mike Duquette wrote:
<quoted text>I have no desire to know the mass murderer god you speak of, just as I do not care to know Charles Manson or Hitler.
Why do you not wish to know Zeus?
The mass murderer you speak of is Satan the Devil (John 8:44-47 YOU are from YOUR father the Devil, and YOU wish to do the desires of YOUR father. That one was a manslayer when he began, and he did not stand fast in the truth, because truth is not in him. When he speaks the lie, he speaks according to his own disposition, because he is a liar and the father of [the lie]. 45 Because I, on the other hand, tell the truth, YOU do not believe me. 46 Who of YOU convicts me of sin? If I speak truth, why is it YOU do not believe me? 47 He that is from God listens to the sayings of God. This is why YOU do not listen, because YOU are not from God.

Satan evidently was the god Charles Manson, Hitler and others who do not believe in the True God Jehovah.
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Kissimmee, FL

#108016 Jul 4, 2013
Mike Duquette wrote:
<quoted text>Oh, so Satan flooded earth? Make up your mind, which god was it?
If you knew the Bible you would know it was Satan, his demons and their offspring who made it necessary to flood the earth to rid the earth of wickedness.

“Breaking the spell ”

Since: Dec 10

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#108017 Jul 4, 2013
Known Fact wrote:
<quoted text>
Revelation 12:12 explains why Atheism is growing so fast.
"On this account be glad, YOU heavens and YOU who reside in them! Woe for the earth and for the sea, because the Devil has come down to YOU, having great anger, knowing he has a short period of time.
Oh, so now you jettison your earlier reasoning? You flip on a dime in order to keep your faith. The double standards are standard.

“Breaking the spell ”

Since: Dec 10

of the puppet master

#108018 Jul 4, 2013
Known Fact wrote:
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If you knew the Bible you would know it was Satan, his demons and their offspring who made it necessary to flood the earth to rid the earth of wickedness.
Oh, so Satan made god a mass murderer. I see.
I am sure Manson used the same reasoning.
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Kissimmee, FL

#108019 Jul 4, 2013
Mike Duquette wrote:
<quoted text>Oh, so Satan made god a mass murderer. I see.
I am sure Manson used the same reasoning.
Common sense is so rare these days it should be classified as a superpower!
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Kissimmee, FL

#108020 Jul 4, 2013
Early one morning in the middle of the night two dead boys got into a fight a deaf man heard the noise pulled out his knife and shot the boys.

"Mike Duquette",
Does that make more sense to you? I see said the blind man to his deaf daughter.

Now you know the reason I post:
Common sense is so rare these days it should be classified as a superpower!

“I was born a poor, black child”

Since: Jan 07

that weren't no easy thing

#108021 Jul 5, 2013
Known Fact wrote:
For your conscience to be an accurate guide it must be Bible trained. If not at most it is based on opinion. Opinions are like noses everybody has one!
Common sense is so rare these days it should be classified as a superpower!
Would you listen to yourself. You're trying to make a point, and all you can come up with are two things you heard someone else say. The only thing YOU said out of your own free will in that statement, was to suggest he allow himself to be brainwashed. Do you EVER think for yourself? This makes me feel sad, and it shouldn't.
Children

Lubbock, TX

#108022 Jul 5, 2013
Known Fact wrote:
Early one morning in the middle of the night two dead boys got into a fight a deaf man heard the noise pulled out his knife and shot the boys.
"Mike Duquette",
Does that make more sense to you? I see said the blind man to his deaf daughter.
Now you know the reason I post:
Common sense is so rare these days it should be classified as a superpower!
My 7 year old recites the same thing. Probably makes better sense at it too.

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#108023 Jul 5, 2013
care8741 wrote:
Father God, Jesus Christ, Holy Spirit... Do what you want with america, I'm moving to canada!
Amen
Just so you're aware, the rate of Atheism in Canada is significantly higher than in the US, and it's growing. Canadians are generally nice and very tolerant people though, so even though the person you're proselytizing to may think you're full of crap, they will probably just smile and nod until you go away.

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#108024 Jul 5, 2013
Known Fact wrote:
For your conscience to be an accurate guide it must be Bible trained. If not at most it is based on opinion. Opinions are like noses everybody has one!
Common sense is so rare these days it should be classified as a superpower!
How is that the case? For the bulk of human history there was no Bible. And to this day most people never see or read the Bible. Most of my good friends do not read the Bible, yet they are kind people who abhor violence and suffering.

I think your hypothesis needs to go back to the drawing board.

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#108025 Jul 5, 2013
curious wrote:
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I do not have to explain God to you or any one else...
All i have for believing in God is my faith,based on my personal relation with Him and Jesus Christ.
Finally, you speak the truth. Your idea is based entirely on faith and faith alone.

So why on earth do you argue about science? It's pretty god damned stupid, dude. Think about it.

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#108026 Jul 5, 2013
Skeptical Spectacles wrote:
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Just so you're aware, the rate of Atheism in Canada is significantly higher than in the US, and it's growing. Canadians are generally nice and very tolerant people though, so even though the person you're proselytizing to may think you're full of crap, they will probably just smile and nod until you go away.
A tangent:

Britain has a national religion, meaning all citizens are supposed to be "members" of the Anglican Church. Yet the rate of religiosity in Britain is extremely low. Most people are not church attenders and a giant portion of them claim no particular faith.

Maybe the solution to our religious problems here is to establish a national church. Maybe that would drive a stake in the heart of this ridiculous idea.

It would definitely make things more interesting for the fundies. Who knows which church would end up on top?!

(kidding of course...f*ck that noise)

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#108027 Jul 5, 2013
curious wrote:
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...
No amount of evidence will convince a fool
That's rich, coming from someone who doesn't even know what constitutes "evidence".
The only evidence you've ever provided is your silly little missing dog story.
"I put an add in the paper about my missing dog, and a woman called me because of it...this mystery can't be explained by science... therefore god exists"
Some hard-hitting "evidence" you got there.

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#108028 Jul 5, 2013
Yiago wrote:
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A tangent:
Britain has a national religion, meaning all citizens are supposed to be "members" of the Anglican Church. Yet the rate of religiosity in Britain is extremely low. Most people are not church attenders and a giant portion of them claim no particular faith.
Maybe the solution to our religious problems here is to establish a national church. Maybe that would drive a stake in the heart of this ridiculous idea.
It would definitely make things more interesting for the fundies. Who knows which church would end up on top?!
(kidding of course...f*ck that noise)
I've wondered about that myself over recent years. Especially when candidates like Mike Huckabee show up who overtly admit they want to change the constitution to inject (their) religion into it. Fundies seem too myopic to understand that the separation of church and state is what allows their particular brand of faith to live.

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