Bible study rules for public schools proposed

There are 136727 comments on the The Courier-Journal story from Feb 10, 2010, titled Bible study rules for public schools proposed. In it, The Courier-Journal reports that:

FRANKFORT, Ky. - The state would create rules for teaching about the Bible in public high schools under a bill filed Monday by three Democratic senators.

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#108028 Jul 5, 2013
Yiago wrote:
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A tangent:
Britain has a national religion, meaning all citizens are supposed to be "members" of the Anglican Church. Yet the rate of religiosity in Britain is extremely low. Most people are not church attenders and a giant portion of them claim no particular faith.
Maybe the solution to our religious problems here is to establish a national church. Maybe that would drive a stake in the heart of this ridiculous idea.
It would definitely make things more interesting for the fundies. Who knows which church would end up on top?!
(kidding of course...f*ck that noise)
I've wondered about that myself over recent years. Especially when candidates like Mike Huckabee show up who overtly admit they want to change the constitution to inject (their) religion into it. Fundies seem too myopic to understand that the separation of church and state is what allows their particular brand of faith to live.

“Breaking the spell ”

Since: Dec 10

of the puppet master

#108030 Jul 5, 2013
Known Fact wrote:
Early one morning in the middle of the night two dead boys got into a fight a deaf man heard the noise pulled out his knife and shot the boys.
"Mike Duquette",
Does that make more sense to you? I see said the blind man to his deaf daughter.
Now you know the reason I post:
Common sense is so rare these days it should be classified as a superpower!
I see you cannot give a straight answer.
How stupid can you be

Richmond, KY

#108031 Jul 5, 2013
KittenKoder wrote:
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Yes, and because you can show pictures, rock samples, and other verifiable evidence the existence of the Grand Canyon is not questionable. You have no evidence for your god, thus your claim is dismissed as fairy tales.
Whatever you want to believe..
I can't stop you from being a tard!

Have at it!
How stupid can you be

Richmond, KY

#108032 Jul 5, 2013
curious wrote:
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Kittenfodder
I would not say that.
Many Atheists do not dismiss that claim as a fairy tale
I am surprised you did not know that
Some observations are in order and are worth repeating.
1)Although they claim not to believe in God,Atheists spend an inordinate part of their lifetims talking about God and seeking evidence for his existence.
2)Their unbelief has caused them to have a much higher rate of suicide than those who believe.
3)Studies show that 70% of children reared by Atheists
wiil become affiliated with a church as they reach adulthood
4) A study by Rice University shows that 25% of Atheists and their chidren attend church....
My opinion is that you should address your question to those Atheists,like yourself,who are unable to keep their mind from thinking about God.
Or,you should ask the 70% of children who were brainwashed by their parents into not believing in God and are now Believers.
Or,go to church and ask the attending Atheists and their children to explain their reasons for being there.
The same mental desire that keeps them always thinking about God is probably also responsible for their desire to attend church..
Great post!
Yes and Amen

Richmond, KY

#108033 Jul 5, 2013
WeNeedGodBackinAmerica wrote:
God Bless...America!
Yes we do, but...
It will never happen!
The sickness is out of hand, and as the Bible states...
The end is near, God is going to pull the plug, and
Judgment day will start with a shout!
Lord Jesus, come soon!
Amen!
How stupid can you be

Richmond, KY

#108034 Jul 5, 2013
Mike Duquette wrote:
<quoted text>So someone wants polygamy. Does that mean it will happen? Someone might wish to marry a building, does that mean gay marriage will make that happen? Not anymore so than allowing interracial marriage. I have no doubt you were against that also as most tea party people are clearly racists as well as so homophobic that they wish to keep privileges from them.
Again, other than the religious question, you are a textbook republican.
VERY!
You are such a tard... I can't drink water after reading your tripe!
Our founding Fathers knew where you people would send us...
if you had power!
You've proved them, and the Bible true!
How stupid can you be

Richmond, KY

#108035 Jul 5, 2013
treebeard wrote:
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Just because YOU can't understand it, doesn't mean it didn't happen that way.
Because God is real... means it didn't happen that way!
Evilution has Millions of flaws in it, you just ignore them!
Use the Brain God gave you!
Yes and Amen

Richmond, KY

#108036 Jul 5, 2013
curious wrote:
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I do not post information in an effort to get you and others who think like you ,to believe.
That would be fruitless for 2 reasons
1) One should not believe in God based on someone else's experience.
If you want to believe in God,you seek him and HE will reveal himself to those who seek him
2) The fool has said in his heart,There is no God and.....
No amount of evidence will convince a fool
So true!
Great post!
Yes and Amen

Richmond, KY

#108037 Jul 5, 2013
Known Fact wrote:
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Common sense is so rare these days it should be classified as a superpower!
Absolutely!
Hard to find any in these people!
Yes and Amen

Richmond, KY

#108038 Jul 5, 2013
curious wrote:
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I do not have a problem.
The problem that you imagine I have ,is a creation of your foolish mind.
I invoke God in orderto explain the universe,because that is what I believe and God is not an idea.
And yes,God is more complex than the simple and unverifiable solutions that science and atheists adhere to.
You and science can explain many things that are natural.
What you can not explain is the supernatural.
Oh,yes,,You try to explain it by natural means.
The nonliving can come to life as a result of some accident.
You have no proof,it is illogical and imcomprehensible.
You have no idea how this may have occured.
In other words,you are providing no answers to a complex problem by espousing nonsensical opinions in trying to explain the supernatural.
Then ,you wanna play the old devil's tactic of temptation..
I dare ya...
stick that one in your ear.
I do not have to explain God to you or any one else.
My faith is not based on gravity,the lie on which evolution is based,plate tectonics or the misguided opinions of Atheists.
You can play those nonsensical games with Quantumist,if he allows you...
I do not believe he will be throwing any more of his pearls your way...somthing to do with a parable he read.
All i have for believing in God is my faith,based on my personal relation with Him and Jesus Christ.
Something which, Neither Science,human wisdom or atheists are able to grasp and understand.
But ,that maybe the reason for which 25% of atheists and their families attend religious services....hoping to understand.
May well be the reason your minds are not able to block God out,as he is constantly in your minds...
That,if true, is good news.
And it may well be as it is God's desire that NONE be lost.
Amen!
Great post!
How stupid can you be

Richmond, KY

#108039 Jul 5, 2013
Mike Duquette wrote:
<quoted text>Does god reveal himself to Muslims and Hindu's?
I certainly am not going to believe in god based upon your silly reasoning, so why do you keep posting here? Are you here seeking atheism?
Hey tard...
Do you think an evil being such as satan, would not care how he brought you to hell, as long as he got you to go to hell???
Think about it!
How stupid can you be

Richmond, KY

#108040 Jul 5, 2013
Here's something for all you liberal idiots who THINK this nation wasn't founded on
Christian principles!
.
Religious quotes of our Founding Fathers!

http://christianity.about.com/od/independence...
http://christianity.about.com/od/independence...
curious

Ocoee, FL

#108041 Jul 5, 2013
Skeptical Spectacles wrote:
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That's rich, coming from someone who doesn't even know what constitutes "evidence".
The only evidence you've ever provided is your silly little missing dog story.
"I put an add in the paper about my missing dog, and a woman called me because of it...this mystery can't be explained by science... therefore god exists"
Some hard-hitting "evidence" you got there.


Your lying ways have led you into Atheism.
Your dysfunctional mind has led you into foolish beliefs.
Your chidren will more than likely chose not to live in your fantasy world.
Your Atheist acquaintances are probably at a religious service on Sundays while you sit at home drinking beer and watching TV.
It seems that your world is slowly but surely crumbling around you.
Your children will more than likely seek God,many of your Atheist acquaintances already are and you are unable to keep God out of your mind.
That which you claim does not exist has really got a hold on you.
And praised be God,not only you,Dukette,Chromiuman,Kitten kodder,
Witchinthe woods,Viagio etal..
Although you are not as many as you appear to be...If you catch my drift.. That deceptive trick is obvious and fools no one.
curious

Ocoee, FL

#108042 Jul 5, 2013
Mike Duquette wrote:
<quoted text>Again, why are you here, searching for atheism?
You believe in a god, based upon zero evidence you can show, so why try to tell us god must have done this or that if you have zero evidence to back up the claim?
You have blind faith, we don't. So just what are you trying to accomplish on this thread?
It is not I that is causing your fantasy world to crumble.
Your own children are walking away from your deceitful beliefs and seeking God.
25% of your atheist acquaintances and their families show up a worship service on Sundays...

What are they seeking? What is it about Atheism that has your children seeking God and your acquaintances attending Church with their families?
And,What is it about Atheism that keeps your mind on God?
All of which I am happy to hear.....I am not criticizing,merely pointing out the inconsistencies....
I am glad you are unable to get God out of your mind,I am glad to see atheists and their families at Sunday worship and that your children seek to know God...
That is part of the Good News,,,
Who then,can be saved...What is impossible to man ,is possible to God , And his desire is thst none be lost...
curious

Ocoee, FL

#108043 Jul 5, 2013
Mike Duquette wrote:
<quoted text>If you do not know what apes have to do with human sexual organs, then you do not know the theory of evolution.
You asked about evolution, not magical creation.
This is what was asked;
How could nature evolve a female member of a species that produces eggs and is internally equipped to nourish a growing embryo, while at the same time evolving a male member that produces motile sperm cells? And, further, how is it that these gametes (eggs and sperm) conveniently “evolved” so that they each contain half the normal chromosome number of somatic (body) cells?[Somatic cells reproduce via the process of mitosis, which maintains the species’ standard chromosome number; gametes are produced via the process of meiosis, which halves that number

Let me simplify it

How did the male species know to evolve itself precisely in the manner needed in order to provide the continuation of the species based on how the female species evolved.

One did not know how the other was evolving. There was no communication between them.
How and who designed the system to make this work?
You start throwing in Ape penises and vaginas which in no way explain the process as to how this may have occurred.
Here is an opportunity for your Science Fiction mentality to present us with an absurd and unrealistic answer to a complex question.
Please,do not provide me with an answer from Yahoo. That is where High School dropouts go to enhance their education and apply for their GED"S.
Then again,maybe you can not help yourself

“Breaking the spell ”

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#108044 Jul 5, 2013
How stupid can you be wrote:
<quoted text>Hey tard...
Do you think an evil being such as satan, would not care how he brought you to hell, as long as he got you to go to hell???
Think about it!
i do not think a devil does anything. Do you think Thor does anything?

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#108045 Jul 5, 2013
Mike Duquette wrote:
<quoted text>It is so sad you cannot understand my post.

I am glad to hear you do not believe a god could do anything, as it is a paradox of a claim. But some believer here made just that claim, so I posted a question to prove him wrong. Then you twisted everything into a pretzel to make some point that is irrelevant to the issue.

I have asked many questions here that you avoid like the plague, but love to whine on an on about something that is completely irrelevant to the issues we bring up.
It is relevant.
God operates within certain guidelines. For example, when He covenants with us that if we do a certain thing, He will bless us with a certain blessing, He is then bound to come through on His end if we come through on ours, or else He lied and would cease to be God.
He must operate within the realm of righteousness or He would not be worthy to use the priesthood power and He would cease to be God.
Part of righteousness is performing acts that further righteousness. Idleness and acts that produce nothing, serve no purpose and therefore would be taking time away from righteous acts that He (or we) could be performing. Therefore it would be against the will of God to make a rock for no righteous reason. Testing God with such a statement is unrighteous and a waste of time to ponder. This is why my answer is relevant to your question.
It's not that I'm twisting your question into a pretzel. It is that your lack of knowledge about God leads you to ask the wrong questions.

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#108046 Jul 5, 2013
Mike Duquette wrote:
<quoted text>All evidence points to some sort of ape. Precisely which one is yet to be determined, so god must have waved his magic wand and made us out of dirt.
Both are beliefs.

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#108047 Jul 5, 2013
curious wrote:
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Your lying ways have led you into Atheism...
When have I lied?
curious wrote:
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Your chidren will more than likely chose not to live in your fantasy world.
Maybe, I doubt it, but that will be their choice and I'll love them the same either way. At least they have the opportunity to approach it with an open mind.
curious wrote:
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Your Atheist acquaintances are probably at a religious service on Sundays while you sit at home drinking beer and watching TV.
Again, maybe...but I doubt it.
curious wrote:
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It seems that your world is slowly but surely crumbling around you.
Your children will more than likely seek God,many of your Atheist acquaintances already are and you are unable to keep God out of your mind.
LOL. You certainly have a flair for the dramatic.
curious wrote:
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That which you claim does not exist has really got a hold on you.
Not at all. This is what you don't get (well, one of the many things that you don't get). It's not the concept of god that holds my attention. It's the lunatics that believe in god. Unfortunately you and your brethren are very real. The more I interact with you, the more I hope to learn about how your mind works. Which means the better equipped I'll be to handle your kind in real life.
curious wrote:
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And praised be God,not only you,Dukette,Chromiuman,Kitten kodder,
Witchinthe woods,Viagio etal..
Although you are not as many as you appear to be...If you catch my drift.. That deceptive trick is obvious and fools no one.
And here you go again projecting. I wouldn't care if I were the only atheist on this thread. It doesn't change the arguments. At the end of the day you're a guy who believes there's an invisible man who lives in the sky who reads our minds and controls everything and I'm a guy who believes you're bat-shit crazy for believing that.

I'm also a guy who understands that the classified advertisement process doesn't operate outside the explainable universe... and you're apparently not.

“Breaking the spell ”

Since: Dec 10

of the puppet master

#108048 Jul 5, 2013
How stupid can you be wrote:
<quoted text>Hey tard...
Do you think an evil being such as satan, would not care how he brought you to hell, as long as he got you to go to hell???
Think about it!
So Muslims and hindu's are being tricked into hell by satan? By this reasoning it could be you that is being tricked into hell.

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