Bible study rules for public schools ...

Bible study rules for public schools proposed

There are 147289 comments on the The Courier-Journal story from Feb 10, 2010, titled Bible study rules for public schools proposed. In it, The Courier-Journal reports that:

FRANKFORT, Ky. - The state would create rules for teaching about the Bible in public high schools under a bill filed Monday by three Democratic senators.

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Jennifer Workman Bussell

Germantown, KY

#107455 Jun 24, 2013
Our country was founded on religious beliefs....Returning God and the pledge of allegiance to the schools could only be a win/win situation. I respect those who do not want to participate but it gives a better foundation for children that are being raised with rage, drugs and in an environment of no hope.

Since: Aug 10

Location hidden

#107456 Jun 24, 2013
mantle wrote:
<quoted text>
I can make the connection.
Based on your recent comments about blind faith and magic made it abundantly clear that the topic of faith is beyond your comprehension..
There are 2 ways of interpreting your comments;
Either you do not understand the basis for our Christian faith or
You mock those who truly believe.
I suspect that you mock that which you do not understand....
In which case,making the connection for you,would serve no useful purpose.
Do not give that which is holy to dogs and cast not your pearls before swine.
Ah, curious. You decided to give up a little bit of your anonymity and finally use a registered account eh? Well, good for you. Why choose "mantle" as your moniker? Do you have a penchant for 19th century women's capes? Or maybe you're just fascinated with the Earth's crust and what lies beneath?
In any event, I know it's you because you're the only person I've ever knowingly encountered who thinks the terms "comprehension" and "endorsement" are synonymous. It's a dead giveaway. Well, that and your love of that "pearls before swine" quotation.

“See how you are?”

Since: Jul 12

Earth

#107457 Jun 24, 2013
Jennifer Workman Bussell wrote:
Our country was founded on religious beliefs....Returning God and the pledge of allegiance to the schools could only be a win/win situation. I respect those who do not want to participate but it gives a better foundation for children that are being raised with rage, drugs and in an environment of no hope.
Another "Uhmerica is uh christion country" post. Good grief, Palin's only been back on for a couple days and already the national IQ average has dropped 2.3 points.

“I Am No One Else”

Since: Apr 12

Seattle

#107458 Jun 24, 2013
Jennifer Workman Bussell wrote:
Our country was founded on religious beliefs....Returning God and the pledge of allegiance to the schools could only be a win/win situation. I respect those who do not want to participate but it gives a better foundation for children that are being raised with rage, drugs and in an environment of no hope.
Funny thing you seem to miss, fewer kids participate in such things today than ever, yet, violence is down in the US, most crimes are down in the US, even drug usage.

Since: Aug 10

Location hidden

#107459 Jun 24, 2013
Mike Duquette wrote:
<quoted text>One of the most successful species on earth, has large groups of individuals who never procreate, ants. Ants are the most abundant species on the planet.
Marriage is not just about procreation. Relationships are not just about procreation.
Their are seven billion humans on the planet. Having a few gay persons around is not going to keep the population from dwindling.
If a gay person helps a relative raise a his child, he has been a part of the system that reproduces his genes. You see, our relatives are part of our genetic makeup, thus helping them to survive and reproduce is part of the system. This is why ants have large groups of worker ants that never procreate.
If Bud Bundy helped to raise a child Kelly Bundy produced, he would be propagating many of his own genes by way of helping them to survive. Reproduction needs survival of the offspring for the gene pool to continue. You forget that critical part, survival.
Evolution has two major parts, procreation and survival. Leave half of the equation out and you just make no logical sense. Homosexuals can be integral in that half of the equation.
I have pointed this out before, but as usual, you ignore the facts and points that prove your claims as invalid.
Try actually addressing the points as if you have something solid to stand on. As of yet, you run from them on a regular basis as if your beliefs are weak and have no support.
I see your point on ants, but I don't see the relevance to humans. Do ants have the same sex drive? Do the workers engage in homosexuality? If so, is it because females aren't available?
Are you suggesting the role of human homosexuals is to help raise offspring of heterosexuals for the survival of our species?

Since: Aug 10

Location hidden

#107460 Jun 24, 2013
Mike Duquette wrote:
<quoted text>You failed to demonstrate what the slippery slope of piercings were.
Piercings on an excessive level in our society have always been problematic for many careers. So I see no slip or slope.

Even if some things do have a slippery slope, which I can agree that it happens, you cannot claim gay marriage will certainly cause one. Now you can worry about it all you wish, but you have yet to demonstrate with logic and reason how gay marriage is comparable to bestiality.

Not all changes cause a negative slippery slope.
Perceived possible slippery slopes are not a good reason to keep rights or privileges unequal.

I have no doubt that those who made up the idea of keeping women out of the priesthood were worried about the slippery slope of women in power this might lead towards.
I thought you would have seen the changes in piercings for yourself so I didn't go into detail.
I watched it go from females with ears pierced to multiple piercings per ear to boys with earrings, then quickly to noses, tongues, cheeks, genitalia, to horns imbedded in foreheads, and eyebrow rings, belly button, lip, to literally all over. And also beauty mark piercings. Maybe you're right, it wasn't a slope, but more of a cliff.
Maybe you think this bettered society somehow?

“I Am No One Else”

Since: Apr 12

Seattle

#107461 Jun 24, 2013
do whut wrote:
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...
Are you suggesting the role of human homosexuals is to help raise offspring of heterosexuals for the survival of our species?
Evidence suggests this.

Since: Aug 10

Location hidden

#107462 Jun 24, 2013
Mike Duquette wrote:
<quoted text>Even the four gospels of the new testament do not tell the exact same story. One does not even tell of Jesus coming back to teach. Kind of a large part to leave out if it actually happened. Funny part is, this was the first known gospel to be written.
It is as if a few decades later the Jesus coming back to teach was added to the original story.
When it was written doesn't matter does it?

I started a journal many years ago and then life happened quickly. I didn't have children the last time I wrote in it. But now I have children. Does that mean they don't exist because I didn't write about something that significant and life altering in my journal yet?
mantle

Buffalo, NY

#107463 Jun 24, 2013
I suffer fools gladly, therefore I am giving you my location. Your addled mind had you confused as usual. I am not whom I seem to be and certainly not who you think I am. LOL

Since: Aug 10

Location hidden

#107464 Jun 24, 2013
Mike Duquette wrote:
<quoted text>So you are willing to pay more taxes for the medical professionals?

You do not have to directly tell someone to use violence to incite one to be violent.
The way you speak of homosexuality, you put it in line with crimes.
And we are not just talking about your personal kids. You are speaking on a world wide forum. You have opened up your views of this for all to see. And the way the Mormon church funded the agenda for prop. 8, you are part of the organization that conspires to demand those outside their church to follow your religious beliefs by way of law.
So when you now say you are against interference of others, I call bull. You seem to be in denial about so much.
When they did it at my school, they did not charge. 30 minutes out of their lives to prevent horrible outcomes was worth their time.

When things affect our family lifestyle, I do see fit that we get involved. Most others feel the same way. In this case in particular, you and I disagree on how our families will be affected.

Since: Aug 10

Location hidden

#107465 Jun 24, 2013
Mike Duquette wrote:
<quoted text>I still fail to see any comparison with the piercings. Care to elaborate?

No one is trying to make bestiality legal, or marriage to animals recognized by the state.
Just what is the common thread bestiality have with gay marriage?
It sounds to me as if you are just repeating talking points that have no rhyme or reason to them.
Yet. You left out the word yet. So far we have seen every fetish under the sun become more and more acceptable in the disgusting world of porn that is now the number 1 industry in this nation. And you don't see a slope?

“See how you are?”

Since: Jul 12

Earth

#107466 Jun 24, 2013
mantle wrote:
I suffer fools gladly, therefore I am giving you my location. Your addled mind had you confused as usual. I am not whom I seem to be and certainly not who you think I am. LOL
Coincidentally, who he thought you were hailed from the same area you do.

Since: Aug 10

Location hidden

#107467 Jun 24, 2013
Mike Duquette wrote:
<quoted text>You do not think their is conclusive evidence for evolution.
But if their was, what you would consider conclusive evidence, would that affect your stance one bit?

The evidence science has on the matter leads them to conclude it is innate for the time being. Now if you have some evidence to show the claim as wrong, lets see it.
Their is not many in the relating fields that think homosexuality is not innate. Maybe a tiny handful, that also think Noah's ark is real.

Schools teach the science that is of consensus with professionals, not the religious fanatics.

But the thing is, schools are mainly speaking of bullying homosexuals. Are you telling me that teaching this is wrong? Are you saying they should not condemn bullying?

No matter what your book of superstitions says about the matter, no scientific evidence shows one should be bullied about for their legal sexual preferences.

Now if you can show the schools are teaching something that is false, please show us, and be specific. Otherwise, you are just moaning about something that is likely not even happening.
I'm going to use a line that has been used on me for years: the burden of proof is on you.

As far as bullying, no I don't think it's right to bully the lifestyle choice of homosexuality. Or any other lifestyle choice. If one chooses to abandon modern life and retire to the mountains to live off the land, he will be thought of as weird and jokes will be made for sure, but that isn't right either. But I also don't expect this mountain man to try to get laws changed and expect everyone else to conform to his way of life either. Nor do I expect him to push for classes to be taught to the youth about his lifestyle choice to make it seem more acceptable to society.

Since: Aug 10

Location hidden

#107468 Jun 24, 2013
Mike Duquette wrote:
<quoted text>Why can't science find a cure for cancer? Nature is complex.
But you just seem to expect science to pinpoint all the answers to all of the universe as if the universe was a simple machine.
I doubt a ton of money is being dumped into pinpointing homosexuality, as only the bigots are disputing its innate nature anyways.
Not as if evidence affects those who believe in Noah's ark anyways.

A person makes conclusions based upon the evidence. Well, a reasonable person does. No evidence points to homosexuality not being innate. All evidence points to it being innate.
Just as all evidence points to evolution being true, and none does not. Thus the evidence based person is likely to conclude homosexuality is innate. The superstitious may conclude otherwise.
All that said, still no one will admit there is conclusive evidence? Why?

“I Am No One Else”

Since: Apr 12

Seattle

#107469 Jun 24, 2013
do whut wrote:
<quoted text>
I'm going to use a line that has been used on me for years: the burden of proof is on you.
As far as bullying, no I don't think it's right to bully the lifestyle choice of homosexuality. Or any other lifestyle choice. If one chooses to abandon modern life and retire to the mountains to live off the land, he will be thought of as weird and jokes will be made for sure, but that isn't right either. But I also don't expect this mountain man to try to get laws changed and expect everyone else to conform to his way of life either. Nor do I expect him to push for classes to be taught to the youth about his lifestyle choice to make it seem more acceptable to society.
The fact that humans are not the only animal displaying such behavior is the clinching evidence.

Since: Aug 10

Location hidden

#107470 Jun 24, 2013
Mike Duquette wrote:
<quoted text>I take the conclusions of those who base their decisions upon evidence over unfounded superstitions any day.

Regular Joe's in India conclude the Hindu gods are real.
Regular Joe's in the middle east conclude Mohammed was the true prophet.
Regular Joe's in ancient Egypt concluded that Ra was the sun god.
Their are hundreds of gods that have been invented by man that regular Joe's concluded were true.
But for some reason, this absolute fact is not taken into consideration by you. Or at least you never acknowledge the fact, nor show reason why it might not be relevant. You just ignore it to stay in delusion, just as all the regular Joe's I cited above.
I don't see anything wrong with others believing in some sort of a religion. I believe that those who really want to know the one and only God, would follow Him once the full gospel was presented to them. That's why we do missionary work. We try to take people that gospel and it is up to them if they accept it or not.

“I Am No One Else”

Since: Apr 12

Seattle

#107471 Jun 24, 2013
do whut wrote:
<quoted text>
All that said, still no one will admit there is conclusive evidence? Why?
Because the specific genes have yet to be identified or understood fully. Not to mention, science doesn't deal in proof, and nothing is ever 100%, just very, very, very close to it. For any scientist to state something is 100% certain, they'd be lying.

Since: Jun 13

Location hidden

#107472 Jun 24, 2013
ChromiuMan wrote:
<quoted text>
Coincidentally, who he thought you were hailed from the same area you do.
LOL,,,.consult your dog or your pig....

One of them should be able to explain it so can all understand.

Since: Aug 10

Location hidden

#107473 Jun 24, 2013
mantle wrote:
I suffer fools gladly, therefore I am giving you my location. Your addled mind had you confused as usual. I am not whom I seem to be and certainly not who you think I am. LOL
Well, that's a relief. Take it from me, if you see 'curious' posting anything you'd probably be better off just ignoring it. He's either a troll or a complete idiot. At one point he swore up and down that someone simply answering a classified ad about his lost dog was objective evidence of divine intervention. Some woman called him in response to an ad, and he thought it was a miracle. Can you believe that? What a rube....

“There is no god.”

Since: Jan 12

USA

#107474 Jun 24, 2013
mantle wrote:
<quoted text>
LOL,,,.consult your dog or your pig....
One of them should be able to explain it so can all understand.
Just because you religies think animals talk does not make it so. Snowbird?

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