Bible study rules for public schools proposed

Feb 10, 2010 Full story: The Courier-Journal 135,202

FRANKFORT, Ky. - The state would create rules for teaching about the Bible in public high schools under a bill filed Monday by three Democratic senators.

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“Breaking the spell ”

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#107410 Jun 23, 2013
Quantummist wrote:
<quoted text>
Then again assuming ... I have several homosexual friends and would defend anyone from attack no matter the individuals proclivities... I was but pointing out regressing to a mindset that was had by several societies a 1000 years or more in the past is not Progress...
Personally I could care less of anyone sexual proclivities between Adults... But I no more want to hear about then, see them or know about them in the homosexual community as I do the Heterosexual community... I don't want to see a Straight Pride parade any more than I want to see a Gay Pride Parade...
All sexual proclivities should stay in ones private lives ... The destruction of societies as a ongoing endeavor starts with the slippery slope of decadence...
If the fundie kids are bullying the homosexual kids, then they are going to hear about it. Again, who cares that it offends your fundamentalist mind?

You know what would likely get homosexual marriage talked about less? Allowing them to marry! Until you stop with the bigotry, you will get an ear full. Don't like it? To damned bad.

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#107411 Jun 23, 2013
Mike Duquette wrote:
<quoted text>What I get out of your post is, you cannot understand a simple debate about a god that is believed by billions.
If I were debating a believer in Zeus, I would ask him if Zeus was

responsible for all lighting. Does that mean I would believe in Zeus?
I debate the idea of a god, not the god itself, as the god clearly cannot answer any questions. He is does not speak or show himself. But believers show themselves, and often claim to speak for the gods. The bible is full of such persons.
BTW, you did not answer my question, you answered another question that I did not ask. Typical of believers. You must deny to yourself, the contradictions in order to stay in your delusion, so you ignore the actual question and make up new ones to respond to.
Denial is the key to delusion. Your post shows how you lie to yourself.
It is obvious that you asked the question that you now deny asking.

It is also obvious that you did not like the answer.

Mike Duquette wrote:
<quoted text>He is magic, nuff said.
Can he create a rock he cannot lift?
I believe this passage will answer your question....

"... As it is written: See I lay a stone in Zion that causes men to stumble and a rock that makes them fall, and the one who trusts in him will never be put to shame."

If you seek answers from the right source, answers will be provided.
If you seek for gold in a latrine, you will not find any.....

Always remember, Go to the source...
Nuff said

“Breaking the spell ”

Since: Dec 10

of the puppet master

#107412 Jun 23, 2013
Quantummist wrote:
<quoted text>

I type using my style... Since it is Impossible to denote tone and emphasis in the printed word I Capitalize those words I would tend to Emphasize during a verbal conversation....
In other words, you fail to be able to articulate what you wish to be focused upon using the written word. In other words, you are a poor writer.

“Breaking the spell ”

Since: Dec 10

of the puppet master

#107413 Jun 23, 2013
Quantummist wrote:
<quoted text>
Then again assuming ... I have several homosexual friends and would defend anyone from attack no matter the individuals proclivities...
Your stance on gay marriage is not a defense for homosexuals. It is an attack on their equality.
I am sure many slave owners claimed a few black persons as their friends also.

“Breaking the spell ”

Since: Dec 10

of the puppet master

#107414 Jun 23, 2013
mantle wrote:
<quoted text>
It is obvious that you asked the question that you now deny asking.
It is also obvious that you did not like the answer.
Mike Duquette wrote:
<quoted text>He is magic, nuff said.
Can he create a rock he cannot lift?
I believe this passage will answer your question....
"... As it is written: See I lay a stone in Zion that causes men to stumble and a rock that makes them fall, and the one who trusts in him will never be put to shame."
If you seek answers from the right source, answers will be provided.
If you seek for gold in a latrine, you will not find any.....
Always remember, Go to the source...
Nuff said
What does shame of a human stumbling on a rock have to do with god creating a stone he cannot lift? I cannot read your mind, tell me the connection as I do not see it. I see they both involve a rock, but that is the end of the connection.

“Breaking the spell ”

Since: Dec 10

of the puppet master

#107415 Jun 23, 2013
mantle wrote:
<quoted text>
It is obvious that you asked the question that you now deny asking.
It is also obvious that you did not like the answer.
Mike Duquette wrote:
<quoted text>He is magic, nuff said.
Can he create a rock he cannot lift?
I believe this passage will answer your question....
"... As it is written: See I lay a stone in Zion that causes men to stumble and a rock that makes them fall, and the one who trusts in him will never be put to shame."
If you seek answers from the right source, answers will be provided.
If you seek for gold in a latrine, you will not find any.....
Always remember, Go to the source...
Nuff said
"He is magic, nuff said.It was sarcasm and it was not a question.

You are certainly not the best source to find answers from. If a god ever appears to me, I will ask him. Until then, I do not believe a god exists.

Of course those with blind faith have no shame in their position, because they believe it is perfect, no matter how much evidence shows the contrary. Another word for it is, hubris.

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#107416 Jun 23, 2013
KittenKoder wrote:
<quoted text>They have, look at who is saying they have not.

Hint: It's not the scientists.
Shouldn't all scientists use the same process to come up with the same answer?

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#107417 Jun 23, 2013
ChromiuMan wrote:
http://www.redding.com/news/20 08/jun/17/are-we-born-gay-scie nce-suggests-yes/
do whut wrote, "<quoted text>
Slippery slope that has been discussed here before is what I was referring to.
Yes someone else mentioned it was a hoax. That's great, but it will happen soon enough even if it's just to make a statement. "

There is no connection between bestiality and homosexuality. NONE.
If you'd done a web search you would have found that there was a man in Sudan who was forced to marry a goat BY his church.
do whut wrote, "<quoted text>Just because I don't approve of the actions of some people doesn't mean I think they deserve to be beat up. "

Your words are hollow. There are other forms of bullying and abuse besides physical beatings. Some recognize it.
http://www.thepeacewriter.com/2012/05/lds-the...
Just because you might not be the one throwing the punch or holding the fag down doesn't mean that attitudes like yours aren't the force and "justification" behind it.
"Suggests" is not conclusive.
The rest of your post is you making assumptions.

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#107418 Jun 23, 2013
KittenKoder wrote:
<quoted text>Yet ... no one is "teaching homosexuality" anywhere.
I've already provided an example where they did.

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#107419 Jun 23, 2013
ChromiuMan wrote:
<quoted text>What is "teaching" homosexuality and who says they do?

Why do you think you are sometimes regarded as crazy as a loon religious bigot?
Mike is suggesting they should.

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#107420 Jun 23, 2013
Mike Duquette wrote:
<quoted text>What does shame of a human stumbling on a rock have to do with god creating a stone he cannot lift? I cannot read your mind, tell me the connection as I do not see it. I see they both involve a rock, but that is the end of the connection.
I can make the connection....
That you would not understand is quite obvious by your having to ask the question......

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#107421 Jun 23, 2013
aWitchintheWoods wrote:
<quoted text>
"It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it."
---Aristotle
Atheists merely point out the obvious... IF there were such a creature as Yahweh as described in the bible, then he would be a monster.
We also point out the fact that there is NO PROOF for such a being other than in the delusional minds of some people.
Your "distinct impression" is incorrect.
One can entertain a thought without accepting it.

When one is consumed by that thought which one claims not to accept,,,, is where your heartaches begin and a rational explanation for such behaviour should be addressed....

Is it that your spirit can not accept that your mind and heart have deceived you?

Could it be that he who judges the heart and mind is dealing with you according to your ways?

“I Am No One Else”

Since: Apr 12

Seattle

#107422 Jun 23, 2013
Brian_G wrote:
I'm pro bible study and anti heresy law, like most Americans.
If most [US citizens] were for that, there would be heresy laws .... there are none.

“I Am No One Else”

Since: Apr 12

Seattle

#107423 Jun 23, 2013
do whut wrote:
<quoted text>
I've already provided an example where they did.
Well, I missed it, care to link it?

“I Am No One Else”

Since: Apr 12

Seattle

#107424 Jun 23, 2013
do whut wrote:
<quoted text>
"Suggests" is not conclusive.
The rest of your post is you making assumptions.
Actually, suggests is as conclusive as you can get in science. When evidence suggests something, that means it "points" to that thing, and no alternative. You should learn English and then scientific lingo before you attempt to address such issues.

“I Am No One Else”

Since: Apr 12

Seattle

#107425 Jun 23, 2013
mantle wrote:
<quoted text>
One can entertain a thought without accepting it.
When one is consumed by that thought which one claims not to accept,,,, is where your heartaches begin and a rational explanation for such behaviour should be addressed....
Is it that your spirit can not accept that your mind and heart have deceived you?
Could it be that he who judges the heart and mind is dealing with you according to your ways?
You are conflating your entire assertion here. When something is a threat to humanity, a threat to equality, a threat to our advancement, then it must be addressed. Religion, specifically christianity in the US, has become a major threat to the species now, and thus, it must be addressed. Present evidence supporting your religion or cease trying to push your "morals" based on the small portion you follow as law. It's that easy, live as the Amish do, or stop being irrational.
GWB

Roseville, CA

#107426 Jun 23, 2013
KittenKoder wrote:
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You are conflating your entire assertion here. When something is a threat to humanity, a threat to equality, a threat to our advancement, then it must be addressed. Religion, specifically christianity in the US, has become a major threat to the species now, and thus, it must be addressed. Present evidence supporting your religion or cease trying to push your "morals" based on the small portion you follow as law. It's that easy, live as the Amish do, or stop being irrational.
Yes, you are point on. Theocracy is a threat to or advancement. Even the early bible writers as ignorant that may seem even thought so.

Genesis chapter 11

4They said,“Come, let us build for ourselves a city, and a tower whose top will reach into heaven, and let us make for ourselves a name, otherwise we will be scattered abroad over the face of the whole earth.” 5The LORD came down to see the city and the tower which the sons of men had built.

6The LORD said,“Behold, they are one people, and they all have the same language. And this is what they began to do, and now nothing which they purpose to do will be impossible for them.

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#107427 Jun 23, 2013
Yiago wrote:
<quoted text>I didn't say that.

But if a homosexual couple came into a grade school on some kind of "family day" or "family week" and talked to the kids for a few minutes about their life as a couple that should be no more of a problem than if a it was a straight couple. And it would actually be far more appropriate since most kids don't hear about that stuff in a positive light.

Religious traditions are hostile to this idea, which creates a hostile environment for homosexuals. We need to change that.
I didn't think much of it on a college level. But I don't agree with public schools teaching it to minors. This is something that parents aren't going to agree on, so it should be left to the parents to teach their children.

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#107428 Jun 23, 2013
KittenKoder wrote:
<quoted text>
You are conflating your entire assertion here. When something is a threat to humanity, a threat to equality, a threat to our advancement, then it must be addressed. Religion, specifically christianity in the US, has become a major threat to the species now, and thus, it must be addressed. Present evidence supporting your religion or cease trying to push your "morals" based on the small portion you follow as law. It's that easy, live as the Amish do, or stop being irrational.
The threats to humanity were posed by the Atheist regimes of Joe Stalin, Benito Mussolini,Mao Ze Dung ,Pol Pot and other Atheists.

These are responslble for the deatha of hundreds of millions of innocent civilians.

History will confirm that it was the Chrisdtian Western World that prevented our planet from being overrun by the heathen hordes...

Whatever all of you might claim as to your excuses for being here,you are wasting your time.

No one knows who you are,what your plan of action is,where you may be reached, what you might hope to accomplish and how that might be achieved.

Your audience is composed of under 10 Christians who will totally disregard the foolishness you are so fond of spouting

So,,,,,,What have you accomplished these many years of spreading foolish ideas to an audience that places your credibility between --0 and O.

It is not our responsibility to provide you with evidence.

If you want evidence,it is your responsibility to search for it.

“Speaker of Mountain Wisdom....”

Since: Jan 10

London, KY

#107429 Jun 23, 2013
Mike Duquette wrote:
<quoted text>I don't really give a damn what you wish to see. Maybe you should move to Iran to get your wishes.
All you pointed out were vague talking points.
You don't like decadence? Iran would be a dream country for you.
You put homosexuality in line with decadence, why? Why not just call it an abomination like the fundies, because that is exactly what you sound like right now.
And there in lies the rub... And the down fall of a society is the end result of your view.. We have seen pockets within the country where such views have led to their own demise and the falling of entire civilizations in the past due to such views becoming wide spread...

And of course you don't give a damn what I and others think about such things as long as you understand I and others don't give a crap about what you think about such things and will continue to push back against the destruction of the nation...

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