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Bible study rules for public schools proposed

There are 148395 comments on the The Courier-Journal story from Feb 10, 2010, titled Bible study rules for public schools proposed. In it, The Courier-Journal reports that:

FRANKFORT, Ky. - The state would create rules for teaching about the Bible in public high schools under a bill filed Monday by three Democratic senators.

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“Breaking the spell ”

Since: Dec 10

of the puppet master

#107367 Jun 22, 2013
do whut wrote:
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It's a metaphor. It means God will not speak with man for a period of time as if no more scripture will be given from direct revelation.
Have you never read Revelations? It is slammed full of metaphors.
Ah yes metaphors. They can be interpreted in a multitude of ways and this often leads to disputes as you are having now.
"Period of time"? Well a second could be a period of time, so as long as holy books are extremely vague and no specific like this, the claimed leaders of said religion can point to a myriad of events to claim fulfilled prophesies.
It is all textbook propaganda techniques that are proven to work for indoctrination. All religions use it. Your religion is nothing different than others.

“Breaking the spell ”

Since: Dec 10

of the puppet master

#107368 Jun 22, 2013
do whut wrote:
<quoted text>
Sociology of Families. I have no problem naming the class for you. And that was many years ago. It was an elective in college. So as it has become more acceptable in society, we have people right in this forum that think it should be taught in grade school as a non-elective. I disagree. This has nothing to do with priesthood. This is my personal opinion.
And I told you how I was flipping channels and heard the goat crap. And that I kept flipping. I shook my head and kept going. I wanted to hear music anyway. But I still expect to hear it someday soon by someone trying to make a statement that they should have this right.
And again, I would never encourage violence or bullying of any kind. I serve on several movements to stop bullying currently. It is despicable to me in any form.
How can you stop bullying if you do not even comprehend what fuels bullying? Your statements stoke the fires of bullying.
Every-time you compare homosexuality to bestiality, you are stoking a fire.
The Mormon church bullied homosexuals by funding prop 8 activists.

“Breaking the spell ”

Since: Dec 10

of the puppet master

#107369 Jun 22, 2013
Yes and Amen wrote:
<quoted text>
It's NOT a superstitious belief IF God is real, and...
He is!
Nowhere in our constitution does it say we Have to allow perverse people to do what they want!
If we do... you might as well release Sandusky, and every other sick person... After all... they were born that way!
Give me a break!
No... Romans 1 says it quite well, and that truth bothers you!
Comparing homosexuals to child molesters is just fueling the fire of bullying.
If your perversion is not intruding upon non consenting persons of age, or animals, the constitution has no valid stipulations to make it illegal.
It is so sad you do not even understand the constitution.
America is not a theocracy. It does not have to bow to your superstitious dogma for rules.

“Breaking the spell ”

Since: Dec 10

of the puppet master

#107370 Jun 22, 2013
Yes and Amen wrote:
<quoted text>
It's NOT a superstitious belief IF God is real, and...
He is!
Now if you could only muster up a logical, reasonable, evidence based case for that claim.
I assume the dots.....mean you could not think of any.

“Breaking the spell ”

Since: Dec 10

of the puppet master

#107371 Jun 22, 2013
Yes and Amen wrote:
<quoted text>You forget...
The Creator can/will do anything He wants...
He is bigger than what you see!
Get to know Him... You will be glad you did!
He is magic, nuff said.
Can he create a rock he cannot lift?

“There is no god.”

Since: Jan 12

USA

#107373 Jun 22, 2013
haventt forgotten wrote:
<quoted text> you do seem a lot like Skeptic. both of you obscene and nasty. you are a bad example of atheism. I would prefer to have someone like TT blow you up. These stupid terrorists who hit innocent people at random should consult me first and get an enemies list of the horrid people of this world, like you and Skeptic. It is not nice to kill innocents.
Blow me.

“There is no god.”

Since: Jan 12

USA

#107374 Jun 22, 2013
Someone that posted the following calls its self an atheist,

"you do seem a lot like Skeptic. both of you obscene and nasty. you are a bad example of atheism. I would prefer to have someone like TT blow you up. These stupid terrorists who hit innocent people at random should consult me first and get an enemies list of the horrid people of this world, like you and Skeptic. It is not nice to kill innocents."

I know it sounds just like a religie.
Believe like I do or die.

Todays atheists with their hatred, hypocrisy, arrogance and fence sitting is why I no longer consider myself an atheist.

Since: Jun 13

Location hidden

#107375 Jun 22, 2013
Mike Duquette wrote:
<quoted text>He is magic, nuff said.
Can he create a rock he cannot lift?
I believe this passage will answer your question....

"... As it is written: See I lay a stone in Zion that causes men to stumble and a rock that makes them fall, and the one who trusts in him will never be put to shame."

But something about the heathen that confounds me.

You claim not to believe, yet are constantly attacking God.

You refer to him by name..Yahweh
You call him cruel,a monster....

How is it that the heathen blame and lodge accusations against a deity that the heathen claim does not, nor did ever exist.

A sound mind does not function in such a manner.

I have the distinct impression that you do believe and can not bring yourselves to admit it for your arrogance....

Merely an observation based on the behaviour I have witnessed
GWB

Rancho Cordova, CA

#107377 Jun 22, 2013
Greg Peterson: Utah Mormon GOP Activist Charged with Kidnapping, Beating & Raping Four Women in Cabin He Used for Political Fundraisers.

http://home.conservativebabylon.com/2012/07/2...
GWB

Rancho Cordova, CA

#107378 Jun 22, 2013
mantle wrote:
<quoted text>
I believe this passage will answer your question....
"... As it is written: See I lay a stone in Zion that causes men to stumble and a rock that makes them fall, and the one who trusts in him will never be put to shame."

Merely an observation based on the behaviour I have witnessed
And those who trust in him have been put to shame and still trust in him.

“I'll think about it.”

Since: Nov 07

central Florida

#107380 Jun 22, 2013
mantle wrote:
<quoted text>
I believe this passage will answer your question....
"... As it is written: See I lay a stone in Zion that causes men to stumble and a rock that makes them fall, and the one who trusts in him will never be put to shame."
But something about the heathen that confounds me.
You claim not to believe, yet are constantly attacking God.
You refer to him by name..Yahweh
You call him cruel,a monster....
How is it that the heathen blame and lodge accusations against a deity that the heathen claim does not, nor did ever exist.
A sound mind does not function in such a manner.
I have the distinct impression that you do believe and can not bring yourselves to admit it for your arrogance....
Merely an observation based on the behaviour I have witnessed
"It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it."
---Aristotle

Atheists merely point out the obvious... IF there were such a creature as Yahweh as described in the bible, then he would be a monster.
We also point out the fact that there is NO PROOF for such a being other than in the delusional minds of some people.

Your "distinct impression" is incorrect.

“I Am No One Else”

Since: Apr 12

Seattle

#107381 Jun 22, 2013
mantle wrote:
<quoted text>
I believe this passage will answer your question....
"... As it is written: See I lay a stone in Zion that causes men to stumble and a rock that makes them fall, and the one who trusts in him will never be put to shame."
But something about the heathen that confounds me.
You claim not to believe, yet are constantly attacking God.
You refer to him by name..Yahweh
You call him cruel,a monster....
How is it that the heathen blame and lodge accusations against a deity that the heathen claim does not, nor did ever exist.
A sound mind does not function in such a manner.
I have the distinct impression that you do believe and can not bring yourselves to admit it for your arrogance....
Merely an observation based on the behaviour I have witnessed
You know your god is really you, right?

“Question, Explore, Discover”

Since: Dec 11

Location hidden

#107382 Jun 23, 2013
Quantummist wrote:
<quoted text>
But the Slope is there, oiled and ready because the argument you make can also apply to 1 guy and 20 woman, 1 woman and 20 guys, 10 guys and 10 women...(mutual adult consent)... which then can Glide to segments thinking a 18 year old guy having sexual contact with a 16 year old girl is ok, or a 20 year old girl and a 16 year old boy... Or a 19 year old boy with a 15 year old boy... is ok because maturity is not a age thing.... Which can lead to a woman not seeing the problem with her Adult German Shepard showing her mutual adult consent ....
There is no error in my logic as all of the above has been at past points in human history Acceptable due to Social Norms of the time and the Only factor that sets the bar for a Heterosexual lifestyle is the social accepted norm of the time and the generalized movement of that social accepted norm historically slipped and slid in both directions...
You indeed are making a categorical error. Consensual adult relationships are *categorically* different from rape. How do you not understand that point?

Stop equivocating these things. They are different.

Also, I don't care about multiple partners. If I recall, the point of this particular sub-thread is whether or not it is OK for kids to be taught that homosexuality is normal. Since all the evidence from all lines says yes, then I don't see where the real problem lies. That is my point.

Multiple partners and sex with goats is where the conversation leads when small minds get involved.
Madret

Donora, PA

#107384 Jun 23, 2013

“Breaking the spell ”

Since: Dec 10

of the puppet master

#107385 Jun 23, 2013
mantle wrote:
<quoted text>
I believe this passage will answer your question....
"... As it is written: See I lay a stone in Zion that causes men to stumble and a rock that makes them fall, and the one who trusts in him will never be put to shame."
But something about the heathen that confounds me.
You claim not to believe, yet are constantly attacking God.
You refer to him by name..Yahweh
You call him cruel,a monster....
How is it that the heathen blame and lodge accusations against a deity that the heathen claim does not, nor did ever exist.
A sound mind does not function in such a manner.
I have the distinct impression that you do believe and can not bring yourselves to admit it for your arrogance....
Merely an observation based on the behaviour I have witnessed
What I get out of your post is, you cannot understand a simple debate about a god that is believed by billions.
If I were debating a believer in Zeus, I would ask him if Zeus was responsible for all lighting. Does that mean I would believe in Zeus?
I debate the idea of a god, not the god itself, as the god clearly cannot answer any questions. He is does not speak or show himself. But believers show themselves, and often claim to speak for the gods. The bible is full of such persons.
BTW, you did not answer my question, you answered another question that I did not ask. Typical of believers. You must deny to yourself, the contradictions in order to stay in your delusion, so you ignore the actual question and make up new ones to respond to.

Denial is the key to delusion. Your post shows how you lie to yourself.

“Breaking the spell ”

Since: Dec 10

of the puppet master

#107386 Jun 23, 2013
aWitchintheWoods wrote:
<quoted text>
"It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it."
---Aristotle
Atheists merely point out the obvious... IF there were such a creature as Yahweh as described in the bible, then he would be a monster.
We also point out the fact that there is NO PROOF for such a being other than in the delusional minds of some people.
Your "distinct impression" is incorrect.
Funny how his "distinct impression" is typical of what religious propaganda says of all atheists.

“Breaking the spell ”

Since: Dec 10

of the puppet master

#107387 Jun 23, 2013
Yiago wrote:
<quoted text>
You indeed are making a categorical error. Consensual adult relationships are *categorically* different from rape. How do you not understand that point?
Stop equivocating these things. They are different.
Also, I don't care about multiple partners. If I recall, the point of this particular sub-thread is whether or not it is OK for kids to be taught that homosexuality is normal. Since all the evidence from all lines says yes, then I don't see where the real problem lies. That is my point.
Multiple partners and sex with goats is where the conversation leads when small minds get involved.
Q. sides with most all things republican except religion.
As you can see here, he uses all the republican talking points on the issue. The slippery slope argument is used by republicans in most any issue involving progressive change. They seem to hate change and progress for some reason.

“See how you are?”

Since: Jul 12

Earth

#107388 Jun 23, 2013
Mike Duquette wrote:
<quoted text>Funny how his "distinct impression" is typical of what religious propaganda says of all atheists.
<shrug> I find that very few religies' impressions have ever been de-stinked.

“Speaker of Mountain Wisdom....”

Since: Jan 10

London, KY

#107389 Jun 23, 2013
Mike Duquette wrote:
<quoted text>Q. sides with most all things republican except religion.
As you can see here, he uses all the republican talking points on the issue. The slippery slope argument is used by republicans in most any issue involving progressive change. They seem to hate change and progress for some reason.
Assuming there Mike... I have no problem with Progress... Progress is not reverting back to periods of time 1000's of years ago where what you mention was the norm..... Several long collapsed civilizations have already tried your version of Progress. That sorta makes it Regression....

I don't side with any political point of view I side with the point of view I Have on what ever subject happens to strike my fancy at the moment....

“There is no god.”

Since: Jan 12

USA

#107390 Jun 23, 2013
" Que: I believe in God and the Bible and stuff. I believe in Christmas, and uh, you know the commitments and what not.

Int: You mean the Commandments?

Que: Yeah that. I believe in that.

Int: Can you name any of them?

Que: Ahhh … well, I don’t know … like don’t steal, and uh, don’t cheat and shit like that. Uhmm … I can’t remember the rest.

Int: How about the Bible?

Que: Yeah I know some of that. You know. Heaven and Hell, and Jesus fighting with the Devil, but for real, I didn’t really go to church enough to know like all the details, just the important shit, like Jesus forgives you for all your bad shit if you donate some money to the church, or pray and say you’re sorry. "

Yaa?

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