Bible study rules for public schools proposed

Feb 10, 2010 | Posted by: roboblogger | Full story: The Courier-Journal

FRANKFORT, Ky. - The state would create rules for teaching about the Bible in public high schools under a bill filed Monday by three Democratic senators.

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and just a brief momentary one at that-mostly because I don't get paid to THINK...I just DO- what needs doing...and that has historically usually taken up quitttttte a bit of time (enough).
Would you like a glass of natural morning, freshly squeezed, Vinegar juice?
Just straight coffee, thanks. No teaspoon of sugar or milk from a sacred cow.

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How stupid can you be wrote:
<quoted text>Excuse me... Again!
Jesus said the Love God, Love your Neighbor, and Love your enemies!
Would you like to show me where in that teaching it says to hate gays?
See.. you really know so little, as I have lived that Gay lifestyle, AND have been cleansed, and saved by Jesus' Blood on the Cross... Totally forgiven for my perversions, and THAT is what we want for ALL sinners... even you!
No hate! Just understanding, understanding that there is NOTHING better, that Christ's Love for us!
Jesus said it ALL in John...
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You believe what you want... I know the Truth!
Good day!
So you have no response to:
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<quoted text> The bible says snakes and donkeys can talk.
It says that bats are birds, whales are fish and rabbits chew cud.
It says that if you show a stripped stick to a pregnant cow it will give birth to a stripped calf.
And you have the nerve to say the bible is inerrant..and you think everyone should live by its rules?
When you get gas for your car on Sunday on the way to church or go in the mart to get a snack, do you chide the employee for working?
Better yet, do you stone him/her?
The bible tells you to. Is it lying there?
How about your wife for cooking dinner on Sunday? That's another big no-no.
If you are trimming your beard, you are going against "god's word."
Wearing clothes made of mixed fabrics?
You are a cafeteria Christian. "I like that (and can do it easily and I agree with it) so I'll do THAT... hmmm, but not THAT other one (since it is inconvenient). I'll hate gays but still have me some shrimp at the buffet." You are such a hypocrite.
Only to say you don't "hate" gays.
So if the buybull says homosexuality is an "abomination," are you just supposed to understand them, love them, and MAKE THEM STOP HAVING SEX?
How very kind of you.

You ignore the rest of what I say because you can't defend your ridiculous fantasy.
You just WANT to believe ONLY THE THINGS YOU WANT TO BELIEVE.
Shove the rest under the rug.
Christianity is a mental illness.
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So in opposition to...something, you are defending the central practices of religion, which make no bones or excuses about trying to conform parishioners' minds, thoughts, beliefs and opinions into their particular cookie-cutter shape.
I look at some of that kind of stuff with a little more open mindness, and far more realistically I think.

If people decide "something" like that--whatever-- is a GOOD thing for them-and it works okay for them, and IS good for them- and it is NOT harming anyone elseOR themselves--why would anyone even want to condemn it?
Just because it doesn't "conform" to their OWN ignorant "cookie cutter shape" of LIMITED, narrow mindeded judgeMentalness?

Uhhhhhhhhhhhhh-NOPE. NO thanks.

And don't EVEN try and tell me "how" to vote either.

(Are ya scared one of them might drop some sanctified holy liquid on ya or something?? Ya weeanie).
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I don't need to run it past "heavy duty types."
It does nothing but impact the available funds and usage of the "feet on the ground." Pay an additional 6 or 7 percent for all goods, from copier paper in schools to asphalt for road maintenance to F-15s for the military - just to have that 6 or 7 percent eventually channel back into general funds? All that would do is facilitate shortfalls in the current fiscal budgets and lock up those monies until redistribution the following year, which would then have to be increased accordingly to offset sales tax expenditures. Depending on what and how much is produced or sold in an area, the impact of "redistributing the wealth" of government would have ramifications you don't begin to comprehend.
I have no interest in churches paying taxes. They already lay FAR more claim to their say in government than they are due.
Not if budgets were actually ADHERED to (and adjusted accordingly)

Are you done with your worship practice of licking the givverment bootheels for today now?
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Just straight coffee, thanks. No teaspoon of sugar or milk from a sacred cow.
Good, cause you don't deserve any lol.
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aWitchintheWoods wrote:
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So you have no response to:
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Only to say you don't "hate" gays.
So if the buybull says homosexuality is an "abomination," are you just supposed to understand them, love them, and MAKE THEM STOP HAVING SEX?
How very kind of you.
You ignore the rest of what I say because you can't defend your ridiculous fantasy.
You just WANT to believe ONLY THE THINGS YOU WANT TO BELIEVE.
Shove the rest under the rug.
Christianity is a mental illness.
The irrational thought of thinking all "Christians hate gays" is a MENTAL illness.

No doubt of collectively spewed propoganda bullchit.
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Just straight coffee, thanks. No teaspoon of sugar or milk from a sacred cow.
and TOUGH correct BEANS to boot!

Gaw, lol.

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Actually it's went down hill since everything has become so dependent on technology to "tell them what to think".
Just watch 8 of ten cashiers that need to make change- when they computer screens bweaks down.
The other two might still be able to handle it-especially the ones ya saw outside on a quick smoke/eat break...that still comprehend 15 minutes is fifteen minutes--not 16, or 17 or twenty....
Yet, you are supporting religion, and religion glorifies not learning. Funny that.
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<quoted text> Can I explain this oath? Of course I can. Can't you? Allow me.... Are you indeed a Christian, if you are, you took an oath to follow and keep the ten commandments, to turn the other cheek, yada, yada, yada. You keep reminding all of us that your relationship is personal between you and God, I'm not sure You even know what that relationship is or should be. You can't pick which portion of the bible you choose to follow and which part not to follow, it don't work that way. In my opinion you have (what I call selective christianity) when it's convienant for you, you are a christian, any other time, not so much! I respect everyone's opinion on this thread, even your opinion. But please don't pretend to be the better person just because you are claiming a faith based religion!
You Atheists make foolish comments and then complain when you are called fools.
You have explained nothing,there is no such oath
There is nothing in the teachings of Christ that reequires that one take an oath to follow and keep the 10 commandments.
That is Atheist propaganda in an attempt to deny our need for Jesus Christ.
Neither you,or the other Atheists are able to understand or grasp that which is spiritual,yet,that which you neither believe or understand,you foolishly keep teying to explain and interpret.
Only a fool tries to explain and make sense out of that which is beyond their ability to comprehend.
Now,because I am calling you foolish,based on the facts,you complain that I am being judgemental.
It is not I that is judging you,it is your foolishness and corrupt nature that speaks volumes and attests to your ignorance of that which you do not understand.
In your search for wisdom,your mind has deceived you and have blindly followed the road to foolishness.
Your futile efforts have led you nowhere.
Never took an oath.
I Beleive in God and Christ. I confess him as my saviour.
He paid the debt I could not pay,by his death on the cross and by his stripes I am healed...
It is amazing how those who do not believe in Christ or understand his teachings feel qualified to tell believers how they need to lead their lives in order to please Christ.
What we have here is,those who are spiritually blind,trying to lead those who have had their spiritual sight restored by Jesus Christ.
Like my uncle used to say;
Do not let a blind man drive your car,he will only wreck it
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Mike Duquette wrote:
<quoted text>Get some evidence for this fantastic claim and maybe I will think it has some validity.
You atheists keep regurtitating the same nonsense.
If you want to know God,seek him diligently,He will reveal himself,
That is the formula
Do not ask me to reveal him to you,I can not.
If you want to know him,you must seek him for yourself.
If you are not willing to take the necessary steps,then stop complaining.
Hearing the same nonsense,time and again,gets boring and inexcusable after a while.....

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You atheists keep regurtitating the same nonsense.
If you want to know God,seek him diligently,He will reveal himself,
That is the formula
Do not ask me to reveal him to you,I can not.
If you want to know him,you must seek him for yourself.
If you are not willing to take the necessary steps,then stop complaining.
Hearing the same nonsense,time and again,gets boring and inexcusable after a while.....
That's not a "formula," that's called a scam.
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Who do you think YOU are-attempting to "TELL" ANYONE else, what they can believe or not believe in??????????
Get a clue: Not no-but HELL no--REALITY doesn't work like that!!!!
People CAN and DO--CHOOSE of the FREE WILL that they are born unto -to Pick and choose ANYthing they should so desire to believe or not to believe in--to see GOOD where they can-as well as recognize EVIL when it rears it's UGLY, crooked, hooked Witch like nose face as well.
And if YOU don't like THAT-it's just TOO DAMN bad...that's YOUR problem.
Just who do you think you are, trying to dictate or JUDGE ANYONE else's God given BIRTH rights?
It's people like YOU, consumed of your OWN ignorance and intolerance comprised of nothing but self servedness, with out regard or respect of and for OTHERS-that are sickening!
I was not addressing you, but if you want to stick your wart-infested nose into the discussion, then the same applies to you as well if you are professing to be a Christian as "Curious"! Are you a "Christian" or not?

I Know who I am... and I'm not the one dictating you follow the commandments..Your God did that, they are not called the 10 wishes, they are the 10 COMMANDments.. It seems to me You Too have a problem following what God Ordered YOU to do!(Are you a Christian or Not?)

I am not judging anyone...Your God reserves that right!
It's people like YOU who somehow feel you can pick and choose what Your God wanted you to follow and abide by. Get a Clue!
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My walk with God is between me an God. Everyone needs to live it for there self.
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Prayer wrote:
My walk with God is between me an God. Everyone needs to live it for there self.
I agree! Although some here have been proven a Hypocrite!
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Reminds me of a quote in another forum.
The poster remarked that he often wondered why old Yahweh didn't take a couple more days during his creation of mankind so as to make a better human being.
Nothing worse than shoddy workmanship.
Do not blame God for your poor mental condition.
It is each one's personal resposibility to provide one's mind with spiritual maintenance. To not do so,leads to a defective mind....
Where foolishness prevails,where one may be led to conclude that life emanated spontaneously,from non living matter,by accident.
Where one may be led to conclude that;
If you ever wondered about the origin of intelligence in humans and other mammals, here's the answer from a team of researchers led by Professor Seth Grant of the University of Edinburgh.

A genetic accident experienced by an invertebrate sea animal, about 500 million years ago, led to extra copies of brain genes being made. These extra genes benefited the sea animal's descendants, leading to behaviorally sophisticated vertebrates, including humans, suggest the scientists.
The rationality contained in these beliefs can only be explained and understood by foolish minds,but,as with all foolishness,have no place in the real world.
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Mike Duquette wrote:
<quoted text>Change human nature? How about just try and control human nature with some good understanding of human nature and some good philosophy?
Hard to control what you do not understand. Science is good for understanding.
What makes no sense to me is, why would a god make men with such a nature in the first place?
God provided us with a nature that needs spiritual maintenance in order to function properly.
That maintenance is provided by following god's intructions;

But he answered and said, It is written, Man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word that proceedeth out of the mouth of God.

If one fails to do that and permits ones human desires to control him,then that opens the door for immorality,selfishness and greed to control us.
In order to correct that condition,we need guidance from Christ and the comforter,which he promised.
Those who have asked for and received the Holy Spirit can attest to it's power...
Those who have not,can speculate,based on their nonknowledge,and concoct misinformed opinions on a subject they are unable to grasp or comprehend......
of course,Unbelievers will ask for evidence....
Unable and unwilling to seek it for themselves...
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That's not a "formula," that's called a scam.
I imagine that one with no moral code,would interpret it in such a mannner....
But,we ignore those with no moral compass....
They are lost and travelling on the road to nowhere.

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ProvenScience wrote:
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Not if budgets were actually ADHERED to (and adjusted accordingly)
Are you done with your worship practice of licking the givverment bootheels for today now?
Common sense doesn't mean I'm licking any bootheels. There is a ton of waste in gov't, no doubt about it - your proposal just make a chronic problem 10x worse. Most waste comes from the Peter Principle, bureaucratic BS, back-scratching, administrative mini-kingdoms and territory disputes.
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curious wrote:
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You Atheists make foolish comments and then complain when you are called fools.
You have explained nothing,there is no such oath
There is nothing in the teachings of Christ that reequires that one take an oath to follow and keep the 10 commandments.
That is Atheist propaganda in an attempt to deny our need for Jesus Christ.
Neither you,or the other Atheists are able to understand or grasp that which is spiritual,yet,that which you neither believe or understand,you foolishly keep teying to explain and interpret.
Only a fool tries to explain and make sense out of that which is beyond their ability to comprehend.
Now,because I am calling you foolish,based on the facts,you complain that I am being judgemental.
It is not I that is judging you,it is your foolishness and corrupt nature that speaks volumes and attests to your ignorance of that which you do not understand.
In your search for wisdom,your mind has deceived you and have blindly followed the road to foolishness.
Your futile efforts have led you nowhere.
Never took an oath.
I Beleive in God and Christ. I confess him as my saviour.
He paid the debt I could not pay,by his death on the cross and by his stripes I am healed...
It is amazing how those who do not believe in Christ or understand his teachings feel qualified to tell believers how they need to lead their lives in order to please Christ.
What we have here is,those who are spiritually blind,trying to lead those who have had their spiritual sight restored by Jesus Christ.
Like my uncle used to say;
Do not let a blind man drive your car,he will only wreck it
You are quite amusing! So by your statement, All you need to do is Believe in God and Christ, confess him as Savior, and that's it? You can continue to live your life just like before, because that's exactly what you have portrayed here; you are intentionally calling names, twisting one's statements completely around to fit into your frame of thinkimg, Lieing!, Cursing!, and pointing fingers, calling everyone who doesn't agree with you a fool! Remind us all again what the Bible says about calling one a "FOOL". Refusing and/or denying to follow basic instructions Set by the very one YOU Confess as Savior! Again....If you were put on trial for being a Christian, would there be enough evidence to convict you! lol

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Do not blame God for your poor mental condition.
It is each one's personal resposibility to provide one's mind with spiritual maintenance. To not do so,leads to a defective mind....
Where foolishness prevails,where one may be led to conclude that life emanated spontaneously,from non living matter,by accident.
Where one may be led to conclude that;
If you ever wondered about the origin of intelligence in humans and other mammals, here's the answer from a team of researchers led by Professor Seth Grant of the University of Edinburgh.
A genetic accident experienced by an invertebrate sea animal, about 500 million years ago, led to extra copies of brain genes being made. These extra genes benefited the sea animal's descendants, leading to behaviorally sophisticated vertebrates, including humans, suggest the scientists.
The rationality contained in these beliefs can only be explained and understood by foolish minds,but,as with all foolishness,have no place in the real world.
There you go again, talking about spirituality and not evincing a mote, talking about science and not comprehending an iota.

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