Bible study rules for public schools proposed

There are 20 comments on the The Courier-Journal story from Feb 10, 2010, titled Bible study rules for public schools proposed. In it, The Courier-Journal reports that:

FRANKFORT, Ky. - The state would create rules for teaching about the Bible in public high schools under a bill filed Monday by three Democratic senators.

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Yes and Amen

Winchester, KY

#107261 Jun 21, 2013
Quantummist wrote:
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I was gona use "Flying Unicorns that poop Glitter" But I've done that to death.....
Yes!
Yes you have!
LOL
Good day to you... Good day for a ride!

“I Am No One Else”

Since: Apr 12

Seattle

#107262 Jun 21, 2013
Yes and Amen wrote:
<quoted text>No! If the EMT's are there... I don't stop!
You have no curiosity at all? Another thing that does not surprise me.
Yes and Amen

Winchester, KY

#107263 Jun 21, 2013
do whut wrote:
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This is prophesied in the New Testament. We are told that before the second coming there would be a falling away from the church. We are also told that the heavens will be rolled up as a scroll (God will not directly speak to man. Ie. prophets) for a time. And we are also told there will be a restitution of all things.
I'm not saying He screwed up anything. I'm saying He fulfilled the prophesies.
Those things have NOT happened yet!
"the heavens will be rolled up as a scroll"
This should tell you....
You will NOT be flying to another Planet to populate it...
Don't you think?
Another thing...
Read Revelation... NOWHERE does it say you'll fly off to another plane... NONE of the Bible says that! Only Joseph Smith...
The Conman!
Read the Bible man... throw away the BOM!
You will be glad you did!
Yes and Amen

Winchester, KY

#107264 Jun 21, 2013
KittenKoder wrote:
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You have no curiosity at all? Another thing that does not surprise me.
He asked if I "TRY" not to look at the carnage...
NO, I look!
It was in response to my saying... "You do not have to read what I post!"
Good day!
Yes and Amen

Winchester, KY

#107265 Jun 21, 2013
You all have a Great day!
God Bless :-)

“Breaking the spell ”

Since: Dec 10

of the puppet master

#107266 Jun 21, 2013
Yes and Amen wrote:
<quoted text>Obviously... you've not read my stories... How could I be saved by an imaginary God???
Fact is... I could not!
God is real... Get to know Him...
You will be glad you did!
The only real part was the fact you believed in the god. The idea of god might have made you change your mind.
A Hindu can be saved by their gods, yet of course you would deny they exist. It is all in the mind.

“Breaking the spell ”

Since: Dec 10

of the puppet master

#107267 Jun 21, 2013
Yes and Amen wrote:
<quoted text>Like you???
You quit, or didn't really want Christ to begin with!
Christ is still the answer for everything!
First, he is not like me, as he claimed to still be a believer.
He might be losing faith because he sees no god actually helping. But you cannot accept his this due to the claims ancient men made about god.
I lost faith due to knowledge, not any personal issues I had. I came to understand the gods are just claims, and the feelings about the gods are psychological made artificially in the mind.

“Breaking the spell ”

Since: Dec 10

of the puppet master

#107268 Jun 21, 2013
Yes and Amen wrote:
<quoted text>Good vs Evil,
Righteousness vs Un-righteousness,
Truth vs Lies...
List goes on....
More than one check!
You have one single idea that is to be the answer to all, Jesus. This is not a check and balance.

“Breaking the spell ”

Since: Dec 10

of the puppet master

#107269 Jun 21, 2013
Yes and Amen wrote:
<quoted text>Good vs Evil,
Righteousness vs Un-righteousness,
Truth vs Lies...
List goes on....
More than one check!
You do not seem to understand the concept of checks and balances. So until you do, discussing this is pointless.

“Breaking the spell ”

Since: Dec 10

of the puppet master

#107270 Jun 21, 2013
Yes and Amen wrote:
<quoted text>"But satan has caused confusion"...
Yes, yes he has!
.
"God is a God of order, and so He would want His church to have the same order."
You answered with truth here...
Since Christ's birth to Joseph Smith... 1800 years!
You are saying... God screwed up for 1800 years!
Good luck with that!
... Did God really say....?
Their are over 38,000 different sects of Christianity. Is this what you call order? You do not even think of Catholics as Christians. The history of Christian disputes shows a lot of disorder. It is a testimony to the lack of a holy ghost guiding. It is a testimony to the bible not having consistency.

“Breaking the spell ”

Since: Dec 10

of the puppet master

#107271 Jun 21, 2013
Yes and Amen wrote:
<quoted text>Oh! I'm sorry... didn't know I was forcing anything on you, as you have the right, not to read a word I post!
Good day!
You use force to keep gay marriage forbidden. These are your superstitious beliefs being forced upon others.
You have the right to not marry your own sex, but that is not good enough for you. You insist others marry as you do.

“Breaking the spell ”

Since: Dec 10

of the puppet master

#107272 Jun 21, 2013
KittenKoder wrote:
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Nope, that is not accurate. Most religions are actually not spread through indoctrination, look at the ancient ones, particularly those of Greece, Rome, Egypt, Maya, and Inca. They were essentially political parties of those empires for those times, however, they were religions as well. People chose which "god" to follow based entirely on what they agreed with, and the priests of the gods with the most followers had more political power in choosing leaders, dictating policy, and even being the trial judges, depending on the culture in question. They did not use, nor need, indoctrination because it was a very primitive form of Democracy, so to have your voice heard, you had to choose a god in that religion to support.
Most people are in the political party of their parents.
Religion has been tied to politics for as long as religion has been on earth. It is tied to politics in America today.
Reading the bible it is clear to me the so called, prophets, were nothing but politicians using the claim of being able to speak to the gods as a political tool to have authority.

Humans chose based upon what they have been taught.'Indoctrination' is just a description of the teaching.
Political leanings are often of indoctrination.

“Breaking the spell ”

Since: Dec 10

of the puppet master

#107273 Jun 21, 2013
Help for you wrote:
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Did you go on line to jw.org and at the top of the page click on publications then scroll down to the book "What Does The Bible REALLY Teach?". Then scroll down to chapter 11 "Why does God Allow Suffering?"If you have MP3 you can listen to it being read. Please do that before you make any blatant statements based on your personal opinion.
The fact you could not refute my statement tells me a lot.
I am sure your propaganda is great for indoctrinations.

Since: Aug 10

Location hidden

#107274 Jun 21, 2013
Yes and Amen wrote:
<quoted text>No! If the EMT's are there... I don't stop!
Whoosh. I bet you hear that sound a lot don't you?
What you do to the English language, not to mention logic, in your average post is akin to a car wreck. And since you flood the thread frequently it's like a multi-car pile up. It's hard for most of us to avoid glancing.

“Breaking the spell ”

Since: Dec 10

of the puppet master

#107275 Jun 21, 2013
No help for you wrote:
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By whose authority?
Where you put your name is not supposed to be a heading for your post. Do you know what names are used for in society? When on topix with a smart phone, I cannot see location, so I only know this is the same person as "help for you" because I am on my home PC and can see the location.
Using a name shows you stand by your statements. If you cannot even stand by a single name, you will not hold much authority.

Being consistent helps with authority. Authority is earned. Your god demands authority, and does not earn it. He does not even show himself. He hides the way you refuse to show a consistent name.
He supposedly allows people to suffer unimaginable torture, yet supposedly has the power to help, yet refuses.
Now you wish to use this god to help this guy reduce his suffering? Talk about lacking consistency. By your reasoning, the man should suffer so he will know god better. By your reasoning, the man suffered abuse due to gods divine plan. Sickening.

Since: Aug 10

Location hidden

#107276 Jun 21, 2013
Mike Duquette wrote:
<quoted text>The fact you could not refute my statement tells me a lot.
I am sure your propaganda is great for indoctrinations.
Yeah, the JW's preferred prey are those in a vulnerable state of mind. I hadn't noticed any spam from "Known Fact" on here for a while until "Shunned" showed up and then boom! We're knee deep in watchtowers.

“Breaking the spell ”

Since: Dec 10

of the puppet master

#107277 Jun 21, 2013
do whut wrote:
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You never heard of the Eddie's Mississippi leg hound (it's best if you just let him finish Clark)? That could easily be argued as consent by the same twisted minds that want to participate in it.
And no, I do not want public schools teaching children that homosexuality is ok. There is no reason to even touch on the subject to say whether it is ok or not. Leave it to the parents.
We showed you the reason, but you keep ignoring it. It is due to the bullying. Care to address it now or are you going to just keep your head in the sand and pretend you are not part of the problem?

Now you cite comedy shows as evidence?
so true

United States

#107278 Jun 21, 2013
Good morning to all..
I've learned that people will forget what you said, people will forget what you did, but people will never forget how you made them feel.

&#8213; Maya Angelou

You know over time, I have found that people dwell on the things you say and do , and most of the time try to use them against you. They often do forget any good you do for them. What is wrong with this world????
Oh well that is my fuse for today , you all have a good one..
uuummm

Hazard, KY

#107279 Jun 21, 2013
Yes and Amen wrote:
<quoted text>Yes I did use the word "Tard"!
The shame would not be on me, as Being a Tard purposely is being ignorant/stupid! That is what it means!
Bible study does go on in our schools, and the proposed rules is what the bill was for!
The Bible has a great history in the US's founding, and growth, and the Lack of it... is our downfall!
Believing otherwise, and denying the evidence of it...
is being a Tard!
You are so offensive and I am not sure you can even understand why. Then again, maybe you just don't care. I can never imagine your Christ using that term.

You see, you don't offend me by calling me that term. I know you are ignorant and refuse to learn. I have read some of your postings over this long thread. Your opinion of me matters not.

But for others out there - using the term 'tard' is offensive. Not to the person you are calling the name but to those (and their families) that have true problems that they are born with. It is like a racial slur or any other offensive name. Please be kind and don't make fun of those unable to take up for themselves. That is what Jesus, or any sensible person that cared for others, would do.

Yes, Bible study goes on. Prayer goes on. And that is fine. I believe students have every right to study their Bibles and pray IF they or their parents so choose. However, the school has no right to lead them in one direction or the other.

We all know what this is about and have discussed it to death. They were not really fighting for a class to learn about the Bible they were fighting for basically a Sunday School class in school. The school has no business telling my child which religion to choose or that the Bible is true or the word of god. That is up to the parent.

Thankfully, the Chuck Norris Sunday School class did not get off the ground here like it did in some states.

“I Am No One Else”

Since: Apr 12

Seattle

#107280 Jun 21, 2013
Yes and Amen wrote:
<quoted text>Those things have NOT happened yet!
"the heavens will be rolled up as a scroll"
This should tell you....
You will NOT be flying to another Planet to populate it...
Don't you think?
Another thing...
Read Revelation... NOWHERE does it say you'll fly off to another plane... NONE of the Bible says that! Only Joseph Smith...
The Conman!
Read the Bible man... throw away the BOM!
You will be glad you did!
Funny, his religion doesn't sound any more crazy than your religion. I mean "heavens roll up" .... seriously? How do you expect them to roll up like a scroll?

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