Bible study rules for public schools proposed

Feb 10, 2010 Full story: The Courier-Journal 131,433

FRANKFORT, Ky. - The state would create rules for teaching about the Bible in public high schools under a bill filed Monday by three Democratic senators.

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ahh ha

AOL

#106956 Jun 15, 2013
dont you all worry,...
Christianity is slowly dyeing off ,...

by liberal / progressive government decree ,..they will be preaching Islam in all American schools within the next 20 years ,..

“See how you are?”

Since: Jul 12

Earth

#106957 Jun 15, 2013
ahh ha wrote:
dont you all worry,...
Christianity is slowly dyeing off ,...
by liberal / progressive government decree ,..they will be preaching Islam in all American schools within the next 20 years ,..
When Islam is even more conservative and regressive than Christianity? Yeah, there's another stroke of brilliant deduction straight out of the Hannity Handbook.
ahh ha

AOL

#106958 Jun 15, 2013
tell that to the women of islam ,..
who forceably get their clitoris crudly cut off with rusty razor blades ,...

or get stoned to deth for exposing too much ankle ,...

Since: Aug 10

Location hidden

#106959 Jun 15, 2013
Yes and Amen wrote:
<quoted text> http://www.letusreason.org/Testim5.htm
read this, or are you afraid to learn more?
BTW I've asked, and received wisdom from the Lord, I still ask on occasion... NEVER did He say I should read the BOM!
Praying for wisdom for you, as you said... never give up on the ones you love!:-)
Yeah I knew about most all of that before joining. You should look up FAIR.
curious

Ocoee, FL

#106960 Jun 15, 2013
KittenKoder wrote:
<quoted text>
That's stupid. If you feel guilt you don't want to do it because of that feeling. Moron.
Well,according to you,you have a set of self imposed standards whereby,according to you,you have never done anything for which you need feel ashamed....LOL
You are either perfect or your standards are lower than a snakes belly...
Reminds me of Chubby Checker and The Limbo Rock;
How low can you go....
Yiagio,after being accused of being a pedophile by Quantummist,now wants to abolish the 10 commandments.
If he were succesful,then pedophilia would be considered acceptable behaviour.
Duquette would have us behave as Apes,whom,according to him,when they commit an immoral or illegal act,seek forgiveness from the victim by groomimg him or her.
That is beautiful.
Now,one would have complete freedom to break into someone's house,rape and pillage and simply come back to the victim,groom him,brush his teeth,comb his hair and all is forgotten.
But ,then,What could you expect from those who believe that we are part of the banana and cockroach family,as recently stated by Quantummist.
curious

Ocoee, FL

#106961 Jun 15, 2013
ChromiuMan wrote:
<quoted text>
A banker.
curious wrote:
<quoted text>
So,when you commit a selfish,illegal or immoral act,which you know will hurt the recepient of that act and possibly others,you go ahead and do it anyway,and are able to live with yourself,because you feel guilty,after the fact.
If you knew it was wrong and people were going to be hurt,Why did you do it in the first place?
What does that make you?
A banker.
Or ,more than likely, an idiot Atheist,masquerading as a fool
just sayin

AOL

#106962 Jun 15, 2013
an idiot ,masquerading as a fool

“I Am No One Else”

Since: Apr 12

Seattle

#106963 Jun 15, 2013
curious wrote:
<quoted text>
Well,according to you,you have a set of self imposed standards whereby,according to you,you have never done anything for which you need feel ashamed....LOL
You are either perfect or your standards are lower than a snakes belly...
Reminds me of Chubby Checker and The Limbo Rock;
How low can you go....
Yiagio,after being accused of being a pedophile by Quantummist,now wants to abolish the 10 commandments.
If he were succesful,then pedophilia would be considered acceptable behaviour.
Duquette would have us behave as Apes,whom,according to him,when they commit an immoral or illegal act,seek forgiveness from the victim by groomimg him or her.
That is beautiful.
Now,one would have complete freedom to break into someone's house,rape and pillage and simply come back to the victim,groom him,brush his teeth,comb his hair and all is forgotten.
But ,then,What could you expect from those who believe that we are part of the banana and cockroach family,as recently stated by Quantummist.
You have self imposed standards as well, only, more people agree with mine than yours. I do not condone stoning children like you do.

“I Am No One Else”

Since: Apr 12

Seattle

#106964 Jun 15, 2013
Oh, and the 10 commandments says nothing against pedophilia, but the bible endorses it.
curious

Ocoee, FL

#106965 Jun 15, 2013
stuck in a lodi wrote:
curious wrote:
<quoted text>
So,when you commit a selfish,illegal or immoral act,which you know will hurt the recepient of that act and possibly others,you go ahead and do it anyway,and are able to live with yourself,because you feel guilty,after the fact.
If you knew it was wrong and people were going to be hurt,Why did you do it in the first place?
What does that make you?
Damn! Time flies when you're having fun!
Actually, unless you are perfect curious, which you aren't, what does that make you? I would guess , just like everyone else in this world.
Is it your argument you are above these things because you believe in some sort of religion?(God, Bible) That you never break those 10 rules? That IF you ever do such things that you are special and your God will continue to show such favortism to you over and over , etc.(just because)BS
When my children were young, and they did something I specifically told them not to, I would bust their azz. They knew there was gonna be consequences for their actions!
I was not perfect before I knew Christ,nor am I perfect now.
The point being made is that human nature is defective and we,of our own volition, are unable to change that.
When we do something wrong,we know beforehand that it is wrong,but we do it anyway in order to satisfy those immoral desires that are contained in our human nature.
And when we do that which we know to bw wrong,we justify that behaviour in order to satisfy those desires,but we condem that same type of behaviour in others...
That is a fact and anyone denying that fact is a liar and is attempting to absolve himself for his or her corrupt nature.
The point being that,mankind,on his own,has shown a complete inability to change human nature.
The only one who has provided us with a solution to that problem is Jesus Christ.
Those who have earnestly tested Him,have found Him to be true.
Those who deny Him are still searching for excuses for their behaviour and seek to provide us with nonsensical solutions to that problem...

“I Am No One Else”

Since: Apr 12

Seattle

#106966 Jun 15, 2013
curious wrote:
<quoted text>
I was not perfect before I knew Christ,nor am I perfect now.
The point being made is that human nature is defective and we,of our own volition, are unable to change that.
When we do something wrong,we know beforehand that it is wrong,but we do it anyway in order to satisfy those immoral desires that are contained in our human nature.
And when we do that which we know to bw wrong,we justify that behaviour in order to satisfy those desires,but we condem that same type of behaviour in others...
That is a fact and anyone denying that fact is a liar and is attempting to absolve himself for his or her corrupt nature.
The point being that,mankind,on his own,has shown a complete inability to change human nature.
The only one who has provided us with a solution to that problem is Jesus Christ.
Those who have earnestly tested Him,have found Him to be true.
Those who deny Him are still searching for excuses for their behaviour and seek to provide us with nonsensical solutions to that problem...
Most of the commands in the bibles we now condemn, seems your religion got everything wrong.
curious

Ocoee, FL

#106967 Jun 15, 2013
Skeptical Spectacles wrote:
<quoted text>
Unfortunately for Q, he was wrong on that one. Pedophilia is not even a "legal" term, nor was it remotely applicable (psychologically) to Yiago's case. But, I guess you missed all the subsequent exchanges there. Or, as I really suspect, you prefer to cherry pick items out and present them fallaciously or out of context. It seems to be a continuing theme for you. Which, is odd since you're on here now preaching about morals and ethics.
I was not the one to accuse Yiagio of being a pedophile,nor would I.
I have no evidence to support that allegation.
It was an Atheist accusing another Atheist based on State laws.
I did not throw the first stone,nor did I participate in that exchange. It was of no interest to me.
I just find it amusing that Yiagio now, wants to abolish the 10 commandments.
That type of foolishness is absurd and humorous.
Kitty kodder has a better idea.
He believes that we should all have our own personal set of proper behaviour rules and judge ourselves according to our rules.
Seems to work real good for him.
Only person I've ever heard of who has never done anything for which they need feel ashamed of.
I remember someone saying" Some people feel no shame"
stuck in a lodi

Elkhorn City, KY

#106968 Jun 15, 2013
curious wrote:
<quoted text>
I was not perfect before I knew Christ,nor am I perfect now.
The point being made is that human nature is defective and we,of our own volition, are unable to change that.
When we do something wrong,we know beforehand that it is wrong,but we do it anyway in order to satisfy those immoral desires that are contained in our human nature.
And when we do that which we know to bw wrong,we justify that behaviour in order to satisfy those desires,but we condem that same type of behaviour in others...
That is a fact and anyone denying that fact is a liar and is attempting to absolve himself for his or her corrupt nature.
The point being that,mankind,on his own,has shown a complete inability to change human nature.
The only one who has provided us with a solution to that problem is Jesus Christ.
Those who have earnestly tested Him,have found Him to be true.
Those who deny Him are still searching for excuses for their behaviour and seek to provide us with nonsensical solutions to that problem...
And my point was this: Your human nature hasn't changed either, even after your religious calling (or whatever you call it) You still break the rules, just like eveeyone else does, the only difference is...you're not supposed to according to scriptures.

Curious wrote: And when we do that which we know to bw wrong,we justify that behaviour in order to satisfy those desires,but we condem that same type of behaviour in others...

Sorta like what you are doing now??? Interesting!
stuck in a lodi

Elkhorn City, KY

#106969 Jun 15, 2013
everyone** typo I really need to look b4 I post
curious

Ocoee, FL

#106970 Jun 15, 2013
stuck in a lodi wrote:
<quoted text>
And my point was this: Your human nature hasn't changed either, even after your religious calling (or whatever you call it) You still break the rules, just like eveeyone else does, the only difference is...you're not supposed to according to scriptures.
Curious wrote: And when we do that which we know to bw wrong,we justify that behaviour in order to satisfy those desires,but we condem that same type of behaviour in others...
Sorta like what you are doing now??? Interesting!
You are basing your opinion based on your nonknowledge as to what has transpired in my life after I accepted Christ as my saviour.
Where it not for that change,I would today,commit the same acts that controlled me in the past.
That I am a sinner and fall short of the glory of God,there is no doubt in my mind.That I am unable to compensate for my wrong doings,I readily accept. That is one of the reasons why Christ came,to pay the debt that I am unable to pay.
What I do here is confess my belief in Christ,of which I am not ashamed.
You Atheists try to ridicule my beliefs to no avail.
In place of Christ you propose that man has the ability to change his sinful ways.
There is no evidence that has worked in the past,now or in the future.
As Duquette wrote,we need observe the behaviour of apes in order to learn about forgiveness."Grooming each other hardly leads to a change in human nature.
Declaring ourselves to never having committed an act for which we need feel ashamed is self righteousness and arrogance beyond belief.
That we can refine our ethics is nonsense.That does not lead to a change in our human nature,merely serves to pinpoint the defects that we have,not to cure them.
If ethics and our laws were the solution,our jails would not be filled to overflowing.
Those who live by their human nature,seldom,if ever, seek forgiveness.
To believe otherwise, totally contradicts what we can observe by reading the paper,watching the news and observing those around us.
On the other hand,you have convicted criminals,whose lives have been transformed by accepting Christ.
Jack"Murf the surf " Murphy
Eldridge Cleaver
Charles Colson, among others. Not to mention the many other average persons who are examples of what Christ has done to change their lives
Those who earnestly seek Christ,have found him to be true.
The misguided opinions of unbelievers in no way,are able to negate the strength and power of the word of our God.
Your futility in attempting to negate His word and existence has led you down a foolish path that has lead you to observing Apes in order to understand man's sinful nature.
You are heading down a one way street that leads to nowhere.
Me,I am still a sinner,saved by the grace of God....
Unbelievable

United States

#106971 Jun 15, 2013
[T]he only means of establishing and perpetuating our republican forms of government is the universal education of our youth in the principles of Christianity by means of the Bible....Benjamin Rush.....

Since: Aug 10

Location hidden

#106972 Jun 15, 2013
KittenKoder wrote:
<quoted text>Fail. We are living longer than at any other time in all of history, even in the US. All other nations use the same food sources we do in the US. The funny thing is how much you are picking and choosing bits of research that only support your paranoia, nothing from the facts. All we have is some supposed "obesity epidemic," and is based on an unscientifically devised system, using nothing more than correlation being causation, from 50 years ago.

We bred wheat a very long time ago, using primitive genetic modification, I already stated that, are you slow?
Watch Forks over Knives to see some other interesting things besides obesity that we are now causing to ourselves.
And you can easily research the effects of what all these harmless additives really do to us. And these would be facts from scientists.
Yeah, I'm slow to believe you know what you are talking about.
You think living longer is due to High Fructose Corn Syrup or medical advancements?

Since: Aug 10

Location hidden

#106973 Jun 15, 2013
Quantummist wrote:
<quoted text>We have FDA and somewhere around 24,000 regulations concerning our food stocks... So what is it you think is being put into our food that is killing people?... Because if you can come up with Evidence that a company is inserting stuff that kills you i would think that would be kinda bad for future company sales... Genetically Altered crops have to go through many steps before they are allowed on store shelves and you stand a Much better chance of eating poisons on your local fruit and veggy stand that some local farmer grows and drags along side the road as that guy may have use all kinds of nasty stuff on his little garden...

I just don't like the large companies producing Hybrid crops as they do not produce viable seeds so the company has a monopoly on the seed stock for future grows but the end products are as safe as any crops...

But Specifically what stuff do you think companies are putting in food that will kill you? Maybe you have just not considered all the factors and some stuff some people say will kill you has been found to be good for you... Salt was one time good, then bad , then good, then bad..... Same with several things that have been bad for you at one time then later we are told it's good for you...
Wow, I thought you of all people would be less likely to believe the FDA keeps us safe.

Since: Aug 10

Location hidden

#106974 Jun 15, 2013
_Ummm_ wrote:
<quoted text>Absorbs 7 billion in charitable donations. Gives 52 million to feed hungry people. How bad at math are you?

Do you realize the number of lives that could be saved by the amount of money that your church takes in under guise of charity and instead spends on ludicrous garbage that helps nobody? So, sure, not overtly killing if that's what you're hung up on. Just killing through neglect and waste/displacement of charitable funds to could otherwise save human lives.
We don't tithe simply because some may go to charity work.

The funny thing about your argument is that not too long ago you were making the argument that the ones less intelligent than you and less fortunate need to die off so we get smarter as a society and have more resources for the rest. Yeah, I'm hurt that someone with that mentality is throwing rocks at my church for being the most hands on relief support of any other volunteer organization. Ouch

“I Am No One Else”

Since: Apr 12

Seattle

#106975 Jun 15, 2013
do whut wrote:
<quoted text>
Watch Forks over Knives to see some other interesting things besides obesity that we are now causing to ourselves.
And you can easily research the effects of what all these harmless additives really do to us. And these would be facts from scientists.
Yeah, I'm slow to believe you know what you are talking about.
You think living longer is due to High Fructose Corn Syrup or medical advancements?
"The damage harmless additives do" is a contradiction in terms.

Also, I have done research and all your nay-saying is from conspiracy nutters and "organic" food producers.

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