Bible study rules for public schools proposed

There are 20 comments on the Feb 10, 2010, The Courier-Journal story titled Bible study rules for public schools proposed. In it, The Courier-Journal reports that:

FRANKFORT, Ky. - The state would create rules for teaching about the Bible in public high schools under a bill filed Monday by three Democratic senators.

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“I Am No One Else”

Since: Apr 12

Seattle

#106936 Jun 14, 2013
curious wrote:
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So,when you commit a selfish,illegal or immoral act,which you know will hurt the recepient of that act and possibly others,you go ahead and do it anyway,and are able to live with yourself,because you feel guilty,after the fact.
If you knew it was wrong and people were going to be hurt,Why did you do it in the first place?
What does that make you?
That's stupid. If you feel guilt you don't want to do it because of that feeling. Moron.
curious

Ocoee, FL

#106937 Jun 14, 2013
KittenKoder wrote:
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What "powers?" Ethics has always been subjective, every culture has had different ideas of right and wrong, every culture. We refine our ethics and thus improve the laws, that's how a society advances. The theory of evolution gives mechanisms for how this advance benefits a species, and all emotions are pretty well understood in neurology and psychology.
My good man or woman,whichever you are?
Debating this issue with you would be pointless as you would be unable to grasp or understand the issues involved.
After all,one,as yourself,who has claimed to never have committed an act for which you would feel any shame would have no idea regarding ever having committed an illegal or immoral act.
Either that ,or,having committed them,you felt no shame.
I think Duquette referred to such people as psychopaths.
I am making no accusations,just repeating what you have stated previously.....
Kinda reminds me of Yiagio,When Quantummist pointed out to him,that,based on the law,he was a pedophile, Yiagio set his hair on fire denying the allegations,based on his opinion of himself.
Human nature has a penchant for excusing it's illegal and immoral behaviour when it pertains to self,while condeming others for the same behaviour.
ProvenScience

London, KY

#106938 Jun 14, 2013
Yes and Amen wrote:
<quoted text>William Tyndale translated the Bible so that every man could read it...
They killed him for it, as they lost control of the populace!
Poke, poke, poke!
LOL
Now YaA , you need to be more specific.

Translated from what language to what language and into which version. And cite your resources man!

“I Am No One Else”

Since: Apr 12

Seattle

#106939 Jun 14, 2013
curious wrote:
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My good man or woman,whichever you are?
Debating this issue with you would be pointless as you would be unable to grasp or understand the issues involved.
After all,one,as yourself,who has claimed to never have committed an act for which you would feel any shame would have no idea regarding ever having committed an illegal or immoral act.
Either that ,or,having committed them,you felt no shame.
I think Duquette referred to such people as psychopaths.
I am making no accusations,just repeating what you have stated previously.....
Kinda reminds me of Yiagio,When Quantummist pointed out to him,that,based on the law,he was a pedophile, Yiagio set his hair on fire denying the allegations,based on his opinion of himself.
Human nature has a penchant for excusing it's illegal and immoral behaviour when it pertains to self,while condeming others for the same behaviour.
Legality is the law, morals are subjective and not bound to anything, end of story. Ethics are better than morals because they evolve and get refined with each generation, but they are still very subjective. I have no broken any laws, and I have done nothing to feel guilty about.
ProvenScience

London, KY

#106940 Jun 14, 2013
ChromiuMan wrote:
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It is fiscal nonsense to use budgets that came from taxes to pay sales taxes. It's "robbing from Peter to pay Paul." There is no gain in it.
Ohhhh ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhh oh my......is that like having budgets that come from taxes, to pay for expenditures that only recoup the initial base tax off the expenditures expended?
It is fiscal nonsense, to sales tax exempt such a huge monstrosity of SPENDING.

“Speaker of Mountain Wisdom....”

Since: Jan 10

London, KY

#106941 Jun 14, 2013
do whut wrote:
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We don't have to go all natural but we should regulate the things that we know are killing people.
I'm not saying we shouldn't try to get more out of crops by altering them, so long as it is regulated better to not put things in that knowingly harm people, or things that we aren't sure harms people or not. We are their lab rats in that case.
We have FDA and somewhere around 24,000 regulations concerning our food stocks... So what is it you think is being put into our food that is killing people?... Because if you can come up with Evidence that a company is inserting stuff that kills you i would think that would be kinda bad for future company sales... Genetically Altered crops have to go through many steps before they are allowed on store shelves and you stand a Much better chance of eating poisons on your local fruit and veggy stand that some local farmer grows and drags along side the road as that guy may have use all kinds of nasty stuff on his little garden...

I just don't like the large companies producing Hybrid crops as they do not produce viable seeds so the company has a monopoly on the seed stock for future grows but the end products are as safe as any crops...

But Specifically what stuff do you think companies are putting in food that will kill you? Maybe you have just not considered all the factors and some stuff some people say will kill you has been found to be good for you... Salt was one time good, then bad , then good, then bad..... Same with several things that have been bad for you at one time then later we are told it's good for you...
Georgia

Elizabethtown, KY

#106942 Jun 14, 2013
Bumpppo

“pervinco per logica”

Since: Feb 12

Eradicate willful ignorance.

#106943 Jun 14, 2013
do whut wrote:
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Your statements are ridiculous. Kills people? Really?
Absorbs 7 billion in charitable donations. Gives 52 million to feed hungry people. How bad at math are you?

Do you realize the number of lives that could be saved by the amount of money that your church takes in under guise of charity and instead spends on ludicrous garbage that helps nobody? So, sure, not overtly killing if that's what you're hung up on. Just killing through neglect and waste/displacement of charitable funds to could otherwise save human lives.

“Question, Explore, Discover”

Since: Dec 11

Location hidden

#106946 Jun 15, 2013
_Ummm_ wrote:
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Read what I said. You don't get it. PEOPLE do these things. Religion does nothing but grab money before it can get to people who need it. The people try to do the good. With or without the religion, the people will do it. Your church doesn't have some magical ability to coordinate things that people would not have if religion did not exist. And almost ANYONE can do better with 7 billion dollars as is. The primary reason that so many religions push charity is to spread religion, NOT help people. Non-religious charities have no such ulterior motives.
One simply cannot justify religion by claiming credit for good things that good people do. As a mormon, you have even less justification for doing so, because your church may be the least helpful Christian religion of all (per dollar taken in). Compare to the Methodists for a real laugh. And besides:
http://www.adamsmith.org/sites/default/files/...
Can you say "inversely proportional"? Tell me that's not indicative of a negative influence.
Religion is a leech. Temples and books don't feed people. Mosquito nets and repellents are more important than dogma. Your church essentially kills people and you want credit because they spend .7% of their tax-free income feeding people who need it. I find it abhorrent.
It is embarrassing how Europe makes the USA look in terms of social issues. And clearly god is not helping matters.

“See how you are?”

Since: Jul 12

Earth

#106948 Jun 15, 2013
curious wrote:
<quoted text>
So,when you commit a selfish,illegal or immoral act,which you know will hurt the recepient of that act and possibly others,you go ahead and do it anyway,and are able to live with yourself,because you feel guilty,after the fact.
If you knew it was wrong and people were going to be hurt,Why did you do it in the first place?
What does that make you?
A banker.

Since: Aug 10

Location hidden

#106949 Jun 15, 2013
curious wrote:
<quoted text>
So,when you commit a selfish,illegal or immoral act,which you know will hurt the recepient of that act and possibly others,you go ahead and do it anyway,and are able to live with yourself,because you feel guilty,after the fact.
If you knew it was wrong and people were going to be hurt,Why did you do it in the first place?
What does that make you?
It makes him human. The question you should be asking is what does he do after? I'm betting that his guilt drives him to make amends. I know that it would for me. You see, we don't have the luxury of blaming our horrible actions on demons or devils or on our interpretation of guidance from an invisible man in the sky.

“See how you are?”

Since: Jul 12

Earth

#106950 Jun 15, 2013
ProvenScience wrote:
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Ohhhh ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhh oh my......is that like having budgets that come from taxes, to pay for expenditures that only recoup the initial base tax off the expenditures expended?
It is fiscal nonsense, to sales tax exempt such a huge monstrosity of SPENDING.
Your post is pure gibberish.
A sound infrastructure does not facilitate an economy? The DOT needs to pay sales tax for gasoline to help pay for roads? Schools need to pay property taxes to help pay for education? WTF, lady? Sequestering isn't bad enough on its own? Put down the tea cup and back away....
Clearly, you have no concept about the matter, but I'll toss you a bone.
Salaries make up a large portion of the budgets, so all of those "givverment" worker paychecks are paying back the "givverment" in property, service and sales taxes, fees, etc. WITHOUT any tax exemptions - the same as every other marketplace consumer.
Goods which are purchased from vendors by tax dollars also pay for private worker salaries and company incomes, which in turn provide taxes through spending and operations.

Since: Aug 10

Location hidden

#106951 Jun 15, 2013
curious wrote:
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...
Kinda reminds me of Yiagio,When Quantummist pointed out to him,that,based on the law,he was a pedophile, Yiagio set his hair on fire denying the allegations,based on his opinion of himself.
Human nature has a penchant for excusing it's illegal and immoral behaviour when it pertains to self,while condeming others for the same behaviour.
Unfortunately for Q, he was wrong on that one. Pedophilia is not even a "legal" term, nor was it remotely applicable (psychologically) to Yiago's case. But, I guess you missed all the subsequent exchanges there. Or, as I really suspect, you prefer to cherry pick items out and present them fallaciously or out of context. It seems to be a continuing theme for you. Which, is odd since you're on here now preaching about morals and ethics.
stuck in a lodi

Elkhorn City, KY

#106952 Jun 15, 2013
curious wrote:
<quoted text>
So,when you commit a selfish,illegal or immoral act,which you know will hurt the recepient of that act and possibly others,you go ahead and do it anyway,and are able to live with yourself,because you feel guilty,after the fact.
If you knew it was wrong and people were going to be hurt,Why did you do it in the first place?
What does that make you?

A Human Being!
stuck in a lodi

Elkhorn City, KY

#106953 Jun 15, 2013
ChromiuMan wrote:
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A banker.
LOL or that . Good one!
stuck in a lodi

Elkhorn City, KY

#106954 Jun 15, 2013
curious wrote:
<quoted text>
So,when you commit a selfish,illegal or immoral act,which you know will hurt the recepient of that act and possibly others,you go ahead and do it anyway,and are able to live with yourself,because you feel guilty,after the fact.
If you knew it was wrong and people were going to be hurt,Why did you do it in the first place?
What does that make you?
Damn! Time flies when you're having fun!

Actually, unless you are perfect curious, which you aren't, what does that make you? I would guess , just like everyone else in this world.

Is it your argument you are above these things because you believe in some sort of religion?(God, Bible) That you never break those 10 rules? That IF you ever do such things that you are special and your God will continue to show such favortism to you over and over , etc.(just because)BS
When my children were young, and they did something I specifically told them not to, I would bust their azz. They knew there was gonna be consequences for their actions!
stuck in a lodi

Elkhorn City, KY

#106955 Jun 15, 2013
and those consequences were not gonna happen 75 yrs down the road when they died.. it was immediate!
ahh ha

AOL

#106956 Jun 15, 2013
dont you all worry,...
Christianity is slowly dyeing off ,...

by liberal / progressive government decree ,..they will be preaching Islam in all American schools within the next 20 years ,..

“See how you are?”

Since: Jul 12

Earth

#106957 Jun 15, 2013
ahh ha wrote:
dont you all worry,...
Christianity is slowly dyeing off ,...
by liberal / progressive government decree ,..they will be preaching Islam in all American schools within the next 20 years ,..
When Islam is even more conservative and regressive than Christianity? Yeah, there's another stroke of brilliant deduction straight out of the Hannity Handbook.
ahh ha

AOL

#106958 Jun 15, 2013
tell that to the women of islam ,..
who forceably get their clitoris crudly cut off with rusty razor blades ,...

or get stoned to deth for exposing too much ankle ,...

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